Indian Air Force News & Discussion - 23 March 2021

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S_Madhukar wrote: 09 Apr 2026 09:47 The problem is because IAF wasn’t tested until now in modern warfare. Israel and US are expeditionary and constantly testing and learning from their mistakes. Without Balakot we would still be struggling without SDR. I am proud of my forces but they need to be tested regularly, until that doctrine does not change, procurement won’t either.
I think this is a fair point but then how would you explain the rise of Chinese MIC? They're not expeditionary and we, ourselves, here on this forum, talk about how they haven't fought a war in decades. Japanese aren't expeditionary either and they also have a far mature ecosystem and thinking than us.

I suspect there's more to it. I'm really inclined to agree with bala sir here, it's structural with us. Huge fan of Chinese in this regard here, they couldn't come up with their own form of government but what they did exceptionally well is to sinicize foreign ideas, adapting them to fit their culture. While I don't believe we could've completely ripped out the system Brits left us with, I think we really should've 'indianize' it to better fit our needs. Anyway, this is highly off-topic for this thread so I'll stop.
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VIDEO: https://x.com/chakranewz/status/2041394 ... 70993?s=20 ---> Think of IACCS as a real-time warfighting brain. At the Strategic Renaissance of Air Power Conference, Wing Commander Survesh Dhir explains why: From underwater to 100 km up, across domains and even nations, creating one coherent picture isn’t plug-and-play. It’s complex, contested, and still evolving. The goal isn’t more data. It’s trusted situational awareness. With AI and command layers embedded, IACCS is designed to shorten the OODA (Observe, Orient, Decide, Act) loop for faster decisions, faster response. In modern warfare, whoever sees clearly and acts first, wins.

https://x.com/GauravT71548031/status/20 ... 57468?s=20 ---> A pleasure to see an IAF officer explain very clearly and crisply what the IACCS (Integrated Air Command & Control System) is all about. An IAF-BEL homegrown system, it walked the talk on Atmanirbharta well before it became fashionable. It integrates multiple sensors from disparate origins (French, Russian, Indian, Israeli) and different vintage (from 80s to 20s) into one cohesive picture. The system correlates, corroborates and collaborates. It may surprise many to know that the IAF actively shares data through appropriate safeguards and firewalls with AAI's civil radar network.

The result? A Resolved Air Situation Picture (RASP) that covers the entire expanse of India including her island territories. So why did he say from 'underwater to 100 km altitude'? That's because now, this system has been integrated with not only the Indian Army's 'Akash Teer', but also the Indian Navy's tactical information network which updates the maritime picture also for long range maritime operations. Why up to a 100 km? Because that's where space begins, and the 'near space' domain (approx 25-100 km altitude) has emerged as an area of increasing activity.

The system functions with numerous 'nodes' as the Wing Commander mentioned. 10 of them, covering the whole country, with one for the Andaman and Nicobar Command. These nodes have a sci-fi high tech operations rooms with huge wide screens on which the air situation is displayed in real time. There is FULL REDUNDANCY. That is to say, sitting in South India, you can see the live air picture over North East India (or anywhere else), and even control your aircraft remotely. The first 'node' came up at Jodhpur in 2009, and controlled aircraft over Pune/Mumbai area also! Since then all others have come up as well and been fully operational for a while. It was this system, that held the line and controlled all defensive operations against Pak attacks, and all offensive operations by the IAF in Op Sindoor. It has been tested, battle tested, fine tuned, improved, stood the test of time and with scope for further development as Wing Commander Dhir brought out.

Next step? @IAF_MCC and @BEL_CorpCom should jointly market this expertise of networking to friendly foreign countries. This will build long term strategic relationships.
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https://x.com/LancerFlying/status/20415 ... 18849?s=20 ---> Indian Air Force Jaguars in a simulated low-altitude attack being "intercepted" by a pair of MiG-21 Bisons.

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Rakesh wrote: 09 Apr 2026 21:50 https://x.com/LancerFlying/status/20415 ... 18849?s=20 ---> Indian Air Force Jaguars in a simulated low-altitude attack being "intercepted" by a pair of MiG-21 Bisons
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Ouch. Caught in the open and with no AAMs I wouldn't want to be either of the Jag pilots... unless there are a couple of Su-30MKIs providing cover high up top locking on to the Bisons :)
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Rakesh wrote: 09 Apr 2026 21:20 VIDEO: https://x.com/chakranewz/status/2041394 ... 70993?s=20 ---> Think of IACCS as a real-time warfighting brain.....

https://x.com/GauravT71548031/status/20 ... 57468?s=20 ---> A pleasure to see an IAF officer explain very clearly and crisply what the IACCS (Integrated Air Command & Control System) is all about....
i would forgo marketing such a system. Would America market a NORAD type system?
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drnayar wrote: 09 Apr 2026 22:34 ...
i would forgo marketing such a system. Would America market a NORAD type system?
It is a system for layered air defense. Russia, China, Israel have similar systems which they have offered to other countries - in parts, with downgraded capabilities.

Similarly India could offer it's system taking due care to protect source code.

Maybe insert the indian equivalent of the Trojan horse or a kill switch :mrgreen:

Edit - No. I would agree with you. I have always been against the selling of any our top-tier critical weapon systems to any foreign countries. Not the Afghans, not the Armenians. Ammo absolutely, rifles sure, howitzers hmm ok. Fighter jets, Missiles, Radar, .... no way.
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Manish_P wrote: 10 Apr 2026 18:03 Edit - No. I would agree with you. I have always been against the selling of any our top-tier critical weapon systems to any foreign countries. Not the Afghans, not the Armenians. Ammo absolutely, rifles sure, howitzers hmm ok. Fighter jets, Missiles, Radar, .... no way.
Then you would never develop your industry beyond the neighborhood, PERIOD. It might be good enough for today's India, but not for the future version of the country.
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Jay wrote: 11 Apr 2026 07:37 ...
Then you would never develop your industry beyond the neighborhood, PERIOD. It might be good enough for today's India, but not for the future version of the country.
Yes. For now we need our industry to be ahead of the neighborhood for now. The truly important stuff we have to keep to ourselves and in reserve for the coalitions who are going to come at us in the future.
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Rakesh wrote: 09 Apr 2026 21:50 https://x.com/LancerFlying/status/20415 ... 18849?s=20 ---> Indian Air Force Jaguars in a simulated low-altitude attack being "intercepted" by a pair of MiG-21 Bisons.
When were these pics taken? I thought the bisons were retired?
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Cain Marko wrote: 11 Apr 2026 22:11
Rakesh wrote: 09 Apr 2026 21:50 https://x.com/LancerFlying/status/20415 ... 18849?s=20 ---> Indian Air Force Jaguars in a simulated low-altitude attack being "intercepted" by a pair of MiG-21 Bisons.
When were these pics taken? I thought the bisons were retired?
Older picture Saar.
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The best of the best of the IAF ---> fighters jocks @ TACDE.

https://x.com/SonicLancer/status/204246 ... 46357?s=20 ---> Privilege and nostalgia. Spoke to the Composite Graduate Course and DS at IAFs Mecca of Combat - TACDE on IAF in Wars: Lessons and Takeaways. And an excellent discussion on future warfare. Heartwarming to see the incredible professionalism, warrior energy & resolve. KEEP THE FAITH.

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