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https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... i-00194287
The Saudi Arabia you encounter today wants these fires to be put out as soon as possible. In the meantime, it acts as if they don’t exist. As news from Syria and Gaza dominated global headlines, the conversation here focused on other matters. An ultramodern driverless metro, the world’s longest subway system, opened last week. Jennifer Lopez, in a plunging sequined body suit, headlined a fashion show/concert “ode to the female figure” put on in Riyadh by the Lebanese designer Elie Saab. Later this week, Hollywood’s glitterati are coming in for the Red Sea Film Festival. On Wednesday, Saudi Arabia won the right to host the 2034 soccer World Cup.


This, in a couple of nutshells, is today’s Saudi Arabia, as transformed with a firm hand by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

“Like China on steroids,” one diplomat quips.

“There is this sense that they don’t want anything to screw up the good things that are happening in their own country,” adds another.
Riyadh is disorienting. The conversations you have, the public interactions, images that come at you are so … normal. As if you were in Singapore, Seoul or Stockholm. Until you remember where you are: a film festival in a place where a decade ago cinemas were closed and public executions on Riyadh’s “Chop Chop Square” passed for mass entertainment. Forget about J.Lo. Saudi women, fashionably dressed, hair covered, slightly exposed or freely flowing, greet you at a hotel reception desk or sit next to you at a coffee shop or drive — that wasn’t possible in the fundamentalist version of Saudi Arabia.

“It could be seen as a provocation,” says Elie Saab Jr., the designer’s son and CEO of the fashion company, referring to last month’s fashion show. “But Saudi Arabia is on a mission. They want to change, and we are happy to contribute to that vision.”

“What has changed in this country? Everything,” says Mohammed Alyahya, the U.S.-educated senior adviser to the Saudi foreign minister, echoing what every ambassador and businessperson I meet here tells me. “We all thought it might take two to three generations. It was sudden and it worked. We have a leader in this country who is drawing on the energy of the ‘youth bulge’ to remake it.”
There is no other game in town than Washington. China helped broker the Saudi normalization deal with Iran and is looking to expand its influence. But it can’t come close to the hard and soft power that the U.S. has in the Middle East.

The other Gulf countries are effectively well-run city states. Saudi Arabia carries real bulk — and faces real challenges. MBS has to navigate his family and tribal politics and worry about resistance to his modernization plans. Saudi demographics are an advantage and a danger. The oil riches, vulnerable to swinging prices — at the moment on the way down — have to provide all these young people opportunities. Geography matters, of course, too. Iran, Yemen and the Levant are all nearby. Egypt, which had a brief fling with freedom in 2011, is big, poor, repressed and ripe for another explosion.
it seems, only the 2 beggars blighting the indian subcontinent will remain the true citadels of islam in the near future: the histrionic beggar and the disenfranchised "noblesse" beggar
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Trump: 'Turkey Did An Unfriendly Takeover' Of Syria

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It’s kicking off with Yemen now as they launch yet another strike at Israel.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/20/middleea ... index.html

I suspect that after Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran, it’s Yemen’s turn to FAFO.
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PM Modi receives Kuwait's highest honour (mubarak al kabeer)
This is the 20th international honour given to PM Modi by a country
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/india ... st-honour/
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NATO's new poster boy Al Jolani has bounty on him from CIA removed after he changes uniform from ISIS to olive green

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c07gv3j818ko
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US pilots shot down over Red Sea in ‘friendly fire’
USS Gettysburg mistakenly fired on and hit the F/A-18, the US military said, after it had been shooting at Houthi drones and missiles
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... ndly-fire/
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Russia keeping bases in Syria?

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X posting from Iran thread
Time to update this map.

Syria- Iran influence is now almost gone , close to zero. They have been supplanted largely by the Turks. With other players such as Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Israel and U.S. in the mix.

Gaza Strip - with the loss of Syria, Iran ability to send weapons and materials) to Hamas via a land route is severely curtailed. At the same time Hamas itself may take years to recover, it at all

Lebanon - Hezbollah, same as Hamas. Although Shia Hezbollah may still find more resonance with Iran

Iraq: what stands out is this fellow Shia country’s reluctance to give unqualified backing to Iran’s Syrian adventure. Unlike the previous time, Iraq refused to send their forces to support Assad without specific guarantees. Iran’s influence in Iraq is clearly not that of a master or possibly even an elder brother, but slowly becoming more a relationship between independent, friendly, nations.

Yemen: only a part of Yemen, the areas dominated by the Houthis can be said to be firmly with Iran. But at next they’re an irritating (but unrelenting) pinprick, every now and then launching missions at Israel and/ or other nations ships. At the same time, one can’t say that they have yet received the full force of Israeli regards.

Bahrain: with a 40-45 percent Shia population (remaining mostly Sunni) ruled by a Sunni dynasty, Iran’s relationship has always been turbulent, its influence exercised ‘through the people’ and through its Al Ashraf proxy. A footnote in the larger scheme of things.

This those greens areas outside of Iran are either entirely gone, or an paler shade.
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How Syria Could Trigger A Regional War

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Resurrecting this thread…

How is it that Qatar has such an out of proportion influence in geopolitics compared to its size? They have even managed to insert themselves as mediators in the Ukraine war…

It cant simply be money. SA has more money and yet it doesnt have the same level of influence. I am aware that the Qataris have spent lot of money on propping up Al Jazeera but that cant be the only reason.. what gives?
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Tanaji wrote: 20 May 2025 22:17 Resurrecting this thread…

How is it that Qatar has such an out of proportion influence in geopolitics compared to its size? They have even managed to insert themselves as mediators in the Ukraine war…

It cant simply be money. SA has more money and yet it doesnt have the same level of influence. I am aware that the Qataris have spent lot of money on propping up Al Jazeera but that cant be the only reason.. what gives?
spare [free] money , smaller population, autocracy ., they have cultivated inordinate influence by sustained investments and funding in core groups and institutions all across the world esp the US ., for e.g., nearly 50 billion in US academia., endowments and all
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https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-Gene ... klash.html

i believe there were talks between greece and india regarding sale of missiles, better to repay the turkiye in kind
The relatively quiet East Mediterranean appears to be boiling again, following the signing of a new agreement by Turkey and Libya on the delineation of their maritime borders. Ankara is once again pushing East Mediterranean littoral states—Greece, Cyprus, Israel, and Egypt—toward confrontation by asserting longstanding claims over the Economic Exclusive Zones (EEZ) of Athens, Nicosia, and Cairo. Ankara is now actively fueling the fire.

In June 2025, Turkey raised tensions by submitting a new maritime map to UNESCO, challenging Greek authority over territorial waters and airspace in the Aegean. Simultaneously, it reiterated its opposition to Greece’s internationally recognized 12-nautical-mile zone, insisting on only six nautical miles. Ankara considers the Greek stance a violation of its national rights and a potential casus belli.


he latest friction concerns Ankara’s hydrocarbon exploration in contested Turkish Cypriot waters. Some sources claim Turkey is preparing military maneuvers to challenge Greek claims in the Aegean and East Med. While Athens and Ankara have held diplomatic talks, progress has been limited. In May 2025, Greek PM Mitsotakis stated that Ankara must withdraw its 1995 casus belli to participate in new EU defense funding mechanisms.

Turkey has also deepened its offshore involvement in Libya, eyeing oil and gas operations in contested maritime zones under the 2019 Turkey-Libya memorandum. A new MoU signed in October 2022 between Ankara and Libya’s UN-backed Government of National Unity (GNU) grants Turkey exploration rights in Libyan waters. Discussions with Libya’s eastern government, led by General Haftar, are ongoing, raising pressure across the region.

Ankara insists the 2019 MoU is legal and warns of diplomatic or military repercussions if Turkish East Med claims are challenged. Greece has declared the MoU invalid and is engaging Libya directly. Libya’s House of Representatives plans to vote on the agreement soon. Greek naval presence off Libya is being considered.
Egypt, Israel, and Cyprus support Greece’s position, fearing Turkey’s expanding influence. Cairo has called on Washington to pressure Haftar’s parliament to block the MoU. Concerns are mounting over potential impacts on offshore investments and security in Egypt, Cyprus, Greece, and Israel.

Meanwhile, reports have surfaced of secret Turkey-Syria talks to define new EEZ boundaries post-Assad. A leaked letter from Turkish FM Hakan Fidan confirms coordination is underway for a maritime agreement with Syria, further cementing Turkish claims tied to Northern Cyprus.

A Syrian-Turkish deal would harm the interests of Greece, Cyprus, and Egypt, bolstering Turkey’s maximalist maritime ambitions. It may also jeopardize the East Med Gas Forum’s collaborative energy efforts, potentially shifting regional energy dynamics and increasing geopolitical risk. While open conflict is not desired, it can no longer be ruled out.
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Baikul wrote: 24 Dec 2024 08:47 X posting from Iran thread

Time to update this map.

Syria- Iran influence is now almost gone , close to zero. They have been supplanted largely by the Turks. With other players such as Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Israel and U.S. in the mix.

Gaza Strip - with the loss of Syria, Iran ability to send weapons and materials) to Hamas via a land route is severely curtailed. At the same time Hamas itself may take years to recover, it at all

Lebanon - Hezbollah, same as Hamas. Although Shia Hezbollah may still find more resonance with Iran

Iraq: what stands out is this fellow Shia country’s reluctance to give unqualified backing to Iran’s Syrian adventure. Unlike the previous time, Iraq refused to send their forces to support Assad without specific guarantees. Iran’s influence in Iraq is clearly not that of a master or possibly even an elder brother, but slowly becoming more a relationship between independent, friendly, nations.

Yemen: only a part of Yemen, the areas dominated by the Houthis can be said to be firmly with Iran. But at next they’re an irritating (but unrelenting) pinprick, every now and then launching missions at Israel and/ or other nations ships. At the same time, one can’t say that they have yet received the full force of Israeli regards.

Bahrain: with a 40-45 percent Shia population (remaining mostly Sunni) ruled by a Sunni dynasty, Iran’s relationship has always been turbulent, its influence exercised ‘through the people’ and through its Al Ashraf proxy. A footnote in the larger scheme of things.

This those greens areas outside of Iran are either entirely gone, or an paler shade.
all valid and timely points, bears repeating in the current times, not even sure about power projection in iran itself, only yemen remains
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Israel has deliberately taken out a known Al Jazeera reporter saying he was a Hamas supporter. They have obviously put Al Jazeera on notice… a message is being delivered.
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Tanaji wrote: 11 Aug 2025 18:35 Israel has deliberately taken out a known Al Jazeera reporter saying he was a Hamas supporter. They have obviously put Al Jazeera on notice… a message is being delivered.
Hardly their first time. Many of the so-called "Al Jazeera reporters" are active members of Hamas, this guy was both a part of the Hamas armed wing and its PR wing. IDF has eliminated many such reporters in the past, including obliterating a Al-Jazeera building at the beginning of the war.
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Intelligence agents from many agencies staff foreign correspondents’ positions at various news agencies.

But they are generally immune from targeted killings.
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How Israel’s Use Deception & Distraction against Houthi Prime Minister in Yemen ?

How Israel’s assassination used deception and distraction to lull the Houthi leadership into a false sense of security.

The process began with Israel investing significant effort into penetrating the Houthi leadership’s security and communications.
Here are the Deception Tactics.
The answer is Creating a False Sense of Security Let's take a look at it.
Information was tightly controlled, and any reconnaissance activity was either hidden or made to seem unimportant, ensuring movements went undetected or were dismissed as irrelevant.
Deliberate radio silence and the spread of false intelligence via intermediaries were used to reassure the Houthis that their leadership was not in immediate danger.
Israeli intelligence took particular care to avoid aggressive drone surveillance or visible tracking activity that could warn the Houthis of an impending strike.
Surveillance flights and operational patterns were minimized or kept unchanged, allowing Houthi officials to feel secure enough to assemble openly.
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India-Israel ties deepen, Israel’s top Minister hails India as a rising superpower


Eden Bar Tal, Director General of Israel’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, hailed India as an upcoming superpower and praised its human resources as the driving force of growth. He emphasized Israel’s intention to further strengthen ties with India in business, governance, and people-to-people connect. Highlighting shared perspectives on global threats, Bar Tal said India and Israel can showcase how different societies can collaborate for a better future.
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Israel seems to have attacked Hamas leadership in Doha, If this is true, then it's going to set the cat among pigeons. Let's see if the Gulf monarchies bridge their divide to stand up to Israel, or, they play along.

Israel launches attack on Hamas leaders in Qatar, blasts heard in Doha
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This'll get very interesting
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Mukesh.Kumar wrote: 09 Sep 2025 19:34 Israel seems to have attacked Hamas leadership in Doha, If this is true, then it's going to set the cat among pigeons. Let's see if the Gulf monarchies bridge their divide to stand up to Israel, or, they play along.

Israel launches attack on Hamas leaders in Qatar, blasts heard in Doha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtlv_UN3zok

Saudi opinion of Qatar.
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Lisa wrote: 09 Sep 2025 21:38
Mukesh.Kumar wrote: 09 Sep 2025 19:34 Israel seems to have attacked Hamas leadership in Doha, If this is true, then it's going to set the cat among pigeons. Let's see if the Gulf monarchies bridge their divide to stand up to Israel, or, they play along.

Israel launches attack on Hamas leaders in Qatar, blasts heard in Doha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtlv_UN3zok

Saudi opinion of Qatar.
Lisaji, you are on the money. There is no love lost between the others and Qatar, but just a couple of days ago, UAE was posturing with Israel. I don't think anyone of them thought that the bombs will fall this close to home. And then again, none of them have been exactly squeaky clean and mistrust of decades is hard to erase.
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Mukesh.Kumarji,

They need to deeply regret the end of the 6th of October for their end began on the 7th!

I wish the Pox upon the Brotherhood! I hope they all rot in hell.

Now there only remains Turkey!
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https://x.com/DrEliDavid/status/1965413524320227574
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On October 7 H×mas leaders in Qatar celebrated the massacre of Jews 👇

Every single one of them in this video is now dead.
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Is Qatar really the only country to have been bombed by both Iran and Israel?
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uddu wrote: 10 Sep 2025 16:00 https://x.com/DrEliDavid/status/1965413524320227574
@DrEliDavid
On October 7 H×mas leaders in Qatar celebrated the massacre of Jews 👇

Every single one of them in this video is now dead.
False! IDF has no positive identification nor confirmation that they killed any Hamas leaders in Doha. Hamas said one of its members is dead and two are injured. It also appears that Turkey and Egypt had intelligence on Israeli attack and had already warned them.
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Ambar wrote: 11 Sep 2025 04:30 ..
False! IDF has no positive identification nor confirmation that they killed any Hamas leaders in Doha. Hamas said one of its members is dead and two are injured. ...
Which means they can continue to hit targets...

I think pakistan which is so vocal in its support to filistine ought to step up here and state that they are ready to give asylum to the remaining hamas leaders

Even if it means recommending Trump for a double Nobell
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Hillel Neuer vs. Qatar at the UN: “You Harbor Terrorists”

At the United Nations, after Iran, Turkey, Algeria, and Venezuela condemned Israel for striking Hamas leaders in Qatar, UN Watch Executive Director Hillel Neuer took the floor.

His speech — interrupted by Pakistan — challenged Qatar directly:
🔹 “Why do you harbor Hamas leaders in your capital?”
🔹 “Why did you back Hamas’s Gaza coup in 2007?”
🔹 “Why have you funneled billions, fueling their terror wars against Israel?”
🔹 “Why did you absolve Hamas for the October 7 massacre?”
🔹 “Why does your state-owned Al Jazeera act as their propaganda arm?”

“When Israel captured Eichmann, rescued hostages at Entebbe, and destroyed Saddam’s reactor, the U.N. condemned Israel. Yet history vindicated Israel each time.”

🔹 “Pakistan is another state sponsor of Terrorism”
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