Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

vic · Post by **vic** » 15 Apr 2014 23:53

Vamsee wrote:It is clear by now that the entire Anglo-Saxon west is unusually interested in this elections and decisively against NaMo and in favor of anyone other than NaMo. This is quite alarming. West is suspecting that the entire leverage that they earned over many decades might vanish. They are hell bent on keeping that leverage.
Islamic nations are anyway not going to be happy with NaMo Led India.
Not sure how NaMo is going to handle this onslaught both internally and externally.

I believe that Gandhi-Nehru were the Original Kejriwals of India promoted by Anglo Saxon Jew Empire.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 16 Apr 2014 00:12

chaanakya wrote:... BA from Rollins College Florida 1994 and then MPhil ( Development Studies) fro trinity College Cambridge 1995 without doing in between Masters. Is it permitted under US education System? And what he was doing between 1989 to 1994?

Yes, it is permitted in US. One can do a Ph.D. directly after high school or after BS. There is no M.Phil. The equivalent probably is passing the qualifying exam in US. Not sure how it works in UK. He went from US system to UK. But in general it is possible as people with MBBS in India can get MD or PhD or MD+PhD in US.

While MS, MD, MPhil (guessing for this one) are time bound passing GPA based systems, PhD is a different ball game.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 16 Apr 2014 00:15

Chandragupta wrote:Did NaMo confuse Trophy with Toffee? A video doing the rounds -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU_aXjd ... e=youtu.be

It may be his accent or he may have confused but the jist of what he wanted to express is

Narendra Modi ‏@narendramodi 8h

Coming from a poor family, I never had luxury of having toffees but in last decade Guj has won several trophies for good governance!

So he clearly understands the difference.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Apr 2014 00:15

Very good post....

abhijitm wrote:
shiv wrote:There is no entity that can help India. No Pakistani entity can make peace. No Pakistan entity can export anything worthwhile. No Pakistan entity can negotiate anything. No Pakistani entity han endorse and hold up an agreement. What the fuk were people like Manmohan Singh, Sushil Shinde, Mani Shankar Aiyar etc talking about when they said uninterrupted and uninterruptible dialog with "Pakistan"? What or who is Pakistan can give us anything useful?

Why are we not asking our government these questions?
This is my understanding and I may be wrong.

Pakistan was created by certain elites for elites and so was "India". Bharat was what bharatiyas were wanted. But two sides of elites denied them. Some leaders opposed this division but their voice was too weak. British nurtured this elitism for many decades under British Raj. The west kept them under their influence. Eventually those elites split. The Indian side of elites created a kingdom called New Delhi, a realm that will rule bharat for many decades to come. Even after frictions and wars New Delhi elites never really cut off from pakistani elites. They know each other very well and their sympathy for each other always remain. It was the unknown of bharat that paki elites feared of and that unknown was carefully kept away from the New Delhi empire. These elites of New Delhi rule bharat with help from the west, through their elite universities (JNU etc), elite media, through fear and through sticking together, hoping Bharat never wakes up and take over. Only elites fear military takeover and not deep rooted democratic infrastructure. That is the reason why New Delhi is paranoid about Indian Army. Are we bharatiyas paranoid about the Army? Absolutely not! ridiculous to even think of! GoI is New Delhi empire and it is not OUR government. They are our lords and we are their commoners. They will never do what we bharatiyas think that they should do wrt pakistan.....unless somebody from bharat takes over New Delhi. LBS tried and more recently PVNR attempted it. The elites chewed him and threw away. Vajpayee, Advani, sushma, jasvant and the gang was never bharatiyas IMHO. They pledged their alliance with New Delhi. They are one of THEM.

It is this time the New Delhi elite empire is truly being challenged by a truly Bharatiya and we are seeing the elite onslaught after onslaught, including their partners from the west. Here we have one Bhartiya standing against all odds. Nobody in reality gives any damn about secularism. It is his Bharatiya identity that is creating all this kolavari. Lets see what happens. Anyway, defeat of this elite empire is not possible by winning just one battle. There must be relentless march of Bharatiyas election after election. The day New Delhi's elite empire completely falls we will have our way of dealing with Pakistan.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 16 Apr 2014 01:58

http://www.bhaskar.com/article-hf/JHA-R ... 0-PHO.html
people break helipad barrier seize fire brigade to get glimpse of modi.

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 16 Apr 2014 02:03

According to someone, congress may win Jammu seat by 2000 votes.

Is it possible to post such results so soon after polling ?

1.Jammu west, total votes polled= 96,395.
BJP-60%=57837,Cong.-30%=28918,PDP-8%=7711

2. Jammu east-38128
BJP-55%=20970,Cong-35%=13344,PDP-8%=3050

3. Gandhi nagar-107703,
BJP-35%=37696,Cong-50%=53851,PDP-15%=16155)

4.Nagrota-56014,
BJP-75%=42010,Cong-10%=5601,PDP-15%=8402)

5. Bishnah-69756,
BJP-50%=38365,Cong-20%=13951,PDP-15%=10463)...

6. R S Pura-62559,
BJP-40%=25023,Cong-30%=18767,PDP-30%=18767)...

7.Suchetgarh-52896,
BJP-45%=23808,Cong-30%=15686,PDP-25%=13224)...

8.Vijaypur-79783,
BJP-45%=35902,Cong-30%=23934,PDP-25%=19945)...

9.Samba-58971,
BJP-60%=35382,Cong-20%=11794,PDP-5%=2948).

10.Domana-72660,
BJP-48%=34876,Cong-28%=20344,PDP-24%=17438)...

11.Marh-58093,
BJP-50%=29046,Cong-30%=17411,PDP-20%=11618)...

12.Akhanoor-73656,
BJP-20%=14731,Cong-75%=55242,PDP-5%=3682)..

13.Chhamb-62966,
BJP-20%=12593,Cong.-75%=47224,PDP-5%=3148

14.Nowshera-67368,
BJP-30%=20215,Cong-35%=23585,PDP-35%=23585).

15.Kalakote-50678,
BJP-20%=10135,Cong-40%=20271,PDP-40.%=20271)..

16.Rajouri-66389,
BJP-26%=17261,Cong-32%=21244,PDP-42%=27883)...

17.Darhal-55964,
BJP-5%=2798,Cong-40%=22385,PDP-55%=30780)...(

18. Surankote-48872,
BJP-1%=488,Cong-29%=14172,PDP-70%=34210)...

19.Mendhar-50424,
BJP-1%=504,Cong-60%=30254,PDP-38%=19161)...

20.Poonch-65738,
BJP-2%=3286,Cong-10%=6573,PDP-88%=57849

Total BJP=462822,
Cong.=464733,
PDP=350287.
Others =30000

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 16 Apr 2014 02:16

abhijitm wrote:
shiv wrote:There is no entity that can help India. No Pakistani entity can make peace. No Pakistan entity can export anything worthwhile. No Pakistan entity can negotiate anything. No Pakistani entity han endorse and hold up an agreement. What the fuk were people like Manmohan Singh, Sushil Shinde, Mani Shankar Aiyar etc talking about when they said uninterrupted and uninterruptible dialog with "Pakistan"? What or who is Pakistan can give us anything useful?

Why are we not asking our government these questions?
This is my understanding and I may be wrong.

Pakistan was created by certain elites for elites and so was "India". Bharat was what bharatiyas were wanted. But two sides of elites denied them. Some leaders opposed this division but their voice was too weak. British nurtured this elitism for many decades under British Raj. The west kept them under their influence. Eventually those elites split. The Indian side of elites created a kingdom called New Delhi, a realm that will rule bharat for many decades to come. Even after frictions and wars New Delhi elites never really cut off from pakistani elites. They know each other very well and their sympathy for each other always remain. It was the unknown of bharat that paki elites feared of and that unknown was carefully kept away from the New Delhi empire. These elites of New Delhi rule bharat with help from the west, through their elite universities (JNU etc), elite media, through fear and through sticking together, hoping Bharat never wakes up and take over. Only elites fear military takeover and not deep rooted democratic infrastructure. That is the reason why New Delhi is paranoid about Indian Army. Are we bharatiyas paranoid about the Army? Absolutely not! ridiculous to even think of! GoI is New Delhi empire and it is not OUR government. They are our lords and we are their commoners. They will never do what we bharatiyas think that they should do wrt pakistan.....unless somebody from bharat takes over New Delhi. LBS tried and more recently PVNR attempted it. The elites chewed him and threw away. Vajpayee, Advani, sushma, jasvant and the gang was never bharatiyas IMHO. They pledged their alliance with New Delhi. They are one of THEM.

It is this time the New Delhi elite empire is truly being challenged by a truly Bharatiya and we are seeing the elite onslaught after onslaught, including their partners from the west. Here we have one Bhartiya standing against all odds. Nobody in reality gives any damn about secularism. It is his Bharatiya identity that is creating all this kolavari. Lets see what happens. Anyway, defeat of this elite empire is not possible by winning just one battle. There must be relentless march of Bharatiyas election after election. The day New Delhi's elite empire completely falls we will have our way of dealing with Pakistan.

Thus proving- All attacks on Modi by bestern Rags using sepoys and eggsperts of 'South Asia' have sanctions from their governments.

James B · Post by **James B** » 16 Apr 2014 02:22

jamwal wrote:According to someone, congress may win Jammu seat by 2000 votes.

Is it possible to post such results so soon after polling ?

Total BJP=462822,
Cong.=464733,
PDP=350287.
Others =30000

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PDP getting 350000 votes is a joke (they got only 11% vote in 2009). No one can predict a win for a party by number of votes unless everything is fixed in EVM which is unlikely. Just ignore this rumour.

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 16 Apr 2014 02:27

PDP was expected to get at least half of muslim vote.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 16 Apr 2014 02:39

panduranghari, it remains to be identified only about which channel was used by the diversive western power to engage the g-dynasty and its servile clergymen. rest should be all either documented, or in the process of documentation or finalizing the de-classification aspects depending how deep the dig has happened. for all we know, a hidden cremation would have happened as well for the secrets to keep g-dynasty face for the public. the aap-tards will be sung either as heroes or allowed to do their acts to keep the state of chaos on steady state of mess.

i would say, just measure by the growth spectrum alone.. how various institutions and establishments runs as a first measure to see the weakness.. and from there on, there is always a connection however proxied dots disappear into the clouds.

one need to put on those special google glass, an android hat and bing skins to get this all making sense.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 16 Apr 2014 03:04

Just tweeted this:

@VogonPoem: Rahul Gandhi claims to have an MPhil from Cambridge. Was it Masters in Philandering?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Apr 2014 03:06

Prem Kumar wrote:Just tweeted this:

@VogonPoem: Rahul Gandhi claims to have an MPhil from Cambridge. Was it Masters in Philandering?

No Its khaandani trait from his his great great grand father Moti Lal and onwards.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 16 Apr 2014 03:08

He should have gotten a double masters then. He might be swinging both ways, like his great grandfather

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 16 Apr 2014 03:32

SwamyG & Frederic: I have emailed the contact list with instructions to both of you. Can you please confirm?

P.S: I enrolled my non-political wife today. When I was at work, she called people in Chennai. If any of you are shy & have extroverted SHQs, rope them in

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 16 Apr 2014 04:09

pankajs wrote:
Chandragupta wrote:Did NaMo confuse Trophy with Toffee? A video doing the rounds -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU_aXjd ... e=youtu.be
It may be his accent or he may have confused but the jist of what he wanted to express is
Narendra Modi ‏@narendramodi 8h

Coming from a poor family, I never had luxury of having toffees but in last decade Guj has won several trophies for good governance!
So he clearly understands the difference.

I saw the entire speech on TV. He talks about World cup Toffee (as a Trophy) and then talks about Gujrat getting 300 trophies including from GOI. That clip is from rNDTV. What else do you expect?

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 16 Apr 2014 04:23

https://twitter.com/Purple_Truth/status ... 10/photo/1

Picture from Darjeeling rally

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 16 Apr 2014 04:24

Can some one create a blog with pics of NaMo rallies, that itself will send a shiver to Congis if we spread it out

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 16 Apr 2014 04:30

Twitter is abuzz with a very high level assassination attempt on Modi that is about to happen. It says IB has informed home ministry and PM on this and vacations of all security personnel is canceled. Could some one confirm?

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 16 Apr 2014 04:46

Good to see that even Americans are noticing the Sepoy phenomenon in India:

DailyCaller:
Is India about to elect its Reagan? by David Cohen

India, the world’s largest democracy, is in the midst of a marathon five-week election that will result in the selection of its next prime minister. Although Nate Silver has yet to make it official, most pundits and prognosticators predict that Narendra Modi will be India’s next leader.

Modi bears striking similarities to a celebrated American president: one Ronald Wilson Reagan. Both men rose from humble origins. Modi, in particular, worked from childhood hawking tea in railway stations. Both were popular and successful state governors: Modi is the chief minister (equivalent to a governor) of Gujarat, an Indian state whose gift to the world was Mahatma Gandhi. Modi, like Reagan, is an unabashed proponent of free market economics: “Modinomics,” the term coined to describe Modi’s free market and anti-corruption reforms, is of course a nod to “Reaganomics”; it has unleashed an economic boom in Gujarat.

A major common denominator between the two men is the nature of their detractors. Like the U.S., India has cultural elitists who seem to desperately crave the approval of their former colonial masters in Europe. The Indian cultural elite despises Modi every bit as much as the American cultural elite despised Reagan. They look down their noses at Modi, cringing at the thought of being led by a common “tea seller” who can barely speak English. (Can you imagine Chinese or Russian citizens, proud of their own heritage, being ashamed that their leaders don’t speak English?)

Saral · Post by **Saral** » 16 Apr 2014 05:37

Varanasi doesn't seem to be the most secure place in the world. Hope NaMo takes all precautions.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 16 Apr 2014 06:22

Got answers to my question

http://articles.economictimes.indiatime ... ty-members

NEW DELHI: BJP's prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi is set to embark on another marathon run of rallies across the country, addressing 185 public meetings in 295 constituencies in a span of seven weeks, beginning Wednesday.

So how many of these 295 convert into Lotus flowers?

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 16 Apr 2014 06:42

शो में नरेन्द्र मोदी का इंटरव्यू होने वाला है, देखते है रजत शर्मा मोदी से ये सवाल पूछने की हिम्मत कर पाता है या नहीं?
2. सत्ता में आने के बाद आप अम्बानी को गेस के दाम कितने देंगे? 4 डॉलर, 8 डॉलर या 16 डॉलर?

Except above, all questions IMO are useless. The above question is of paramount importance. Congress-apex, AAP-apex and BJP-apex has systematically opposed ALL law-drafts needed to improve competitiveness in Indian economy amongst PSUs and in private oligopolies. Modifesto too doesnt have ANY gazette draft or link to any gazette draft on how oil PSUs management will be imrpoeved and how competitiveness in private sector will be increased.

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Dear All,

If you are in Amritser , please do tell ALL voters that Arun Jetely in year 2001 drafted Juvenile Justice Act where is wrote the clauses that if a criminal below 18 years commits any number or no matter how serious crimes, the max punishment will be ONLY 3 years !!! Many self-certified nationalists tell me that these facts MUST be hidden from voters !!! And due to this, serious violent sexual crimes on women tripled !!!! Well, IMO, all important truths should be told to ALL on ASAP basis. For past 1.2 years , I have been trying to tell all about this Jetley's Juvenile Justice Act. The act was made so that lov jihad in India increases. Who paid for this act is anybody's guess. But Jetley says that he made this law because UN asked him to do so !! Well, he should contest for elections in UNO.

What do you guys say? Should this fact be hidden from voters or should we tell this to all voters.

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Muraliravi, and all who think that OMG was Hindu-bashing movie,

Please give newspaper advt in Ahmedabad about OMG, its murti-breaking scene, its making fun of Hindu seers, and possible reasons on why BJP-apex and RSS-apex gave ticket to its lead star.

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Those who think that OMG was great movie and murti-breaking is a cool sport,

See if you can break statue of NaMo in public. Well, after all, it is just a statue , right?

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Can anyone explain why BJP lotus is not bhagava and white? Please see http://bjp.org .

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JohneeG ,

Mauritius route means if a company with postal address in Mauritus invests money in India , then they wont need to pay income tax, capital gains tax and plethora of other taxes. Further, it is easy for them to for SEZ in which they dont have to pay for stamp duty, excise, electricity tax, customs etc. Also, they are exempt from labor laws. Technically, FDI, Mauritius route , SEZ etc are separate. But they are linked, because FDI from Mauritius becomes tax free, and FDI makes SEZ-making easy. (FDI + Mauritius Route + SEZ) in two lines means

1. We (sic) Indians will have to pay all taxes
2. The gora will not need to pay any taxes

The above policy is NOT linked with dollar-bringing. eg Say I am (sic) Indian and I bring dollars via export. Then from these dollars I invest, I do have to pay taxes on the profits I earn. But if a gora brings doallars, he will have to pay no tax on his profits.

This policy was started by MNC-agents PVNR and MMS in 1991. PVNR became PM due to MNC-owners, otherwise he had no strength to become even an MLA. And MMS was socialist in 1980s because Devi Indira Amma has asked him to support socialist and then became MNC-agent because MNC-owners promised him to make FinMin. PVNR and MMS made above two laws using maze of clauses.

The most revered document of past 2000 years is As we all know. The Modifesto is now new (Gita + Bible + Kuran )*10 for all Modi-andhbhakts. Nothing in that document can be wrong. The Modifesto , in black bold large sized fonts , with invisible ink, supports the above two lines of "gora pay no taxes, Indians pay taxes". So above policy of "Indians pay taxes, gora pay no taxes" is now revered in most NaMo-andhbhagats.

Nevertheless, if you believe that the gora should be taxed at the same rate as we (sic) Indians are taxes, then I would request you to give a newspaper advt asking voters peraticularly traders and factory owners to ask whether NaMo is going to continue to above tax policy of "gora pay no taxes, Indians pay all taxes". Can you give such a newspaper advt?

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I finished reading Modifesto. It makes NO mention of removing Govt control over temples.

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I want all to also note that color of BJP's lotus on http://bjp.org is white and not orange anymore !!! And if one removes human pictures and lotus, and sees the background left, then some 35% space is green and rest 65% is (still) orange . But the color of lotus is spotless white. This may look like small issue --- but one of the principle reason why Balraj Madhok parted ways with LKA, ABV in 1980 was because new proposed Jansangh flag was 35% green and 65% orange, while original Jansangh flag was 100% orange. Balraj Madhok didnt want a dot of green and white on the flag. And so LKA, ABV etc and Balraj Madhok etc parted ways. Due to technical reasons, Balraj Madhok got label of Jansangh, and so ABV, LKA formed BJP. Moral of the story is --- BJP was always 'secular' since its birth in 1980. BJP paid people like Rajdeep Sardesi to create and promote a myth that BJP is Hinduvaadi and so that Hinduvaadies and Hindus remain glued to BJP, and thus get fooled and thus end up wasting time by not creating alternative. And meanwhile, islamists and missionaries kept on adding strength in India. BJP-apex took tridevalaya issue only to ensure that issue doesnt fall with some group who might actually work seriously to get it done. The fact that BJP-apex never wanted Tridevalaya was clear to me in 1989, when BJP-apex opposed the proposal to demand referendum on this issue , and insisted on making it election issue !! The right way to take popular issue is NOT to make it election issue, but use referendum route.

And for more, please see my fb-page.

anmol · Post by **anmol** » 16 Apr 2014 07:06

Further consolation for Narendra Modi's critics
theguardian.com | Apr 15th 2014

Priyamvada Gopal (Modi can't be shrugged off, 14 April) is indeed right to direct our attention to Narendra Modi and the riots in Gujarat during 2002. The Gujarat riots of 12 years ago were horrible. Yet it is legitimate to ask whether this was the only or even the most horrific episode in recent Indian history, albeit the first one to be recorded on live television. The Delhi massacre of 3,000 Sikhs took place over three days in October 1984 while Rajiv Gandhi was prime minister.

Narasimha Rao, subsequently prime minister, was then the home minister and in charge of the police, who were told not to intervene. No one has been punished for that episode as yet after 30 years. Even prior to that, Sanjay Gandhi, though unelected, unleashed a pogrom of sterilisation on Muslim adults in 1976 as a population control measure to speed up development. This was while Indira Gandhi, his mother, had imposed the Emergency, the sole episode of fascism in India. Muslims resisting sterilisation were fired upon and killed in Delhi. In Muzaffarnagar, Uttar Pradesh, the killings were so many that the event was called mini-Jallianwala Bagh, recalling the worst atrocity under British rule 95 years ago in Amritsar.

Hindu/Muslim riots are a tragic part of Indian history. There have been 13,000 in the last 50 years, most of them under Congress rule. No one has been punished for these riots with the singular exception of Gujarat, where trials have been held and convictions taken place. The judiciary for once has not been prevented from delivering justice. The cases are still going on and may punish more people.

No head of government – prime minister or chief minister – has ever apologised for riots which have taken place under their watch in the 67 years of independent India's history. Rajiv Gandhi never apologised, not only for the Delhi riots but also when Muslims were killed by police in Bhagalpur, and many other episodes one could list. There were riots in Mumbai in 1993 in which many Muslims were killed, and the Congress government then in power never took the culprits to court though they were named in the Srikrishna commission report it had received. The leader of the Shiv Sena party (which was active in the killings), Bal Thackeray, received a state funeral when he died recently under the watch of a Congress government.

There are no winners and no sinners in this game. Muslims have suffered under the rule of every party in India. At the root of the problem is the birthmark of India as an independent country, the partition of British-ruled India into India and Pakistan. India has to come to terms with the tragedy of partition. It will do so in its own ways. The Indian electors know all that Priyamvada Gopal tells us. Let them decide what they wish for themselves.
Meghnad Desai
Labour, House of Lords

• "Those who despair at the likely outcome [of the current Indian elections] can console themselves with the thought that nobody ever wins completely in India" (Editorial, 14 April). Indeed so. Coalition government has been the rule since the 1980s, and at least two governing coalitions have been headed by Narendra Modi's Bharatiya Janata party. The first authorised India's 1998 testing of a nuclear device, possibly the most popular political decision since independence, and the second rewrote a lot of India's history. Mr Modi, if in a position to form the next government, may champion a similar mix of populism and revisionism. With Gujarat's capital of Ahmedabad now appearing as "Amdavad" on the road signs, Muslims are already being written out of the map in Modi's home state.

But history can be re-rewritten and maps reversed. Even the bomb – developed by the Nehru/Gandhi dynasty and to which Pakistan immediately replied with its own tests – may have reduced the risk of every border clash turning into another war. Under the BJP the liberalisation of the economy continued, the inter-city motorway system known as the Golden Quadrilateral was launched and better relations with China were established. More surprisingly, the first symbolic gesture in over a decade to mend (or in this case, open) fences with Pakistan was launched when in 1999 the BJP leader boarded the inaugural run of a Delhi-Lahore bus service. His host, then as now, was Nawaz Sharif. Whatever one thinks of Mr Modi, his party's record in power is not all bad. Cause for further consolation?
John Keay
Dalmally, Argyll

• Your editorial rightly expresses concern over the rise of Narendra Modi. However, Indian voters, when it comes to economic issues, do not have much of a choice. India needs economic reforms, for most of its economic problems are structural, not cyclic. Every political party in India, however, is left of the centre; hence reforms take place only by stealth.

Modi is openly right of the centre. Even though his own party is confused on economic issues, his state of Gujarat has registered double-digit economic growth for more than a decade. He may not be the liberal reformer India needs but he is decisive, business-friendly, and gets things done. Surely these qualities are of paramount importance in a country where decision-making has been paralysed for the past five years.
Randhir Singh Bains
Gants Hill, Essex

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 16 Apr 2014 07:36

Not that i care or think that it is a key issue for the next govt, we can pretty much forget ram mandir under namo, the tv 9 interview should be proof enuf, i mean come on, he could not even open his mouth to say, yes i would like to see a temple there, but at the same time we will go by sc orders.

niran · Post by **niran** » 16 Apr 2014 07:37

Anantha wrote:Twitter is abuzz with a very high level assassination attempt on Modi that is about to happen. It says IB has informed home ministry and PM on this and vacations of all security personnel is canceled. Could some one confirm?

yes, all party office have received a polis circular
but this time they have included preventive advise
we are ready, that is all can be said.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 16 Apr 2014 07:46

if these turds succeed , would be a coup akin to taking out Shivaji , Hemchandra Vikramaditya or Prithviraj Chauhan and lay the foundation of another 200 years of islamic sultanate in delhi.

I am sure the best bands of highly paid veterans are on the job 24x7. remember how casually and swiftly poor sunanda pushkar a minor cog in the wheel was silenced in a hotel like leela that has strong security, cctv etc .... so probably some "posh" fellows came in mercedes, did valet parking, got the murder done , had lunch and wine and left coolly. dont just assume its the usual wild eyes bearded rageboy...could be absolutely anyone including gori lady professional or a 70 yr old retiree uncle. remember that hot babe assassin in "munich" who lived on a houseboat they finally tracked and gunned down. attractive lady journalists too - recall how ahmed shah massoud...

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 16 Apr 2014 07:47

Rahul Mehta Sir,

I am sure you already noticed, BJP has all non committal junk on their manifesto wrt bangaldeshi infiltration. They talk about strict control of border (ok so what does that mean), they talk about fencing without any commitment, and above all, there is no word on deportation.

I have already bombarded them with emails, lets see when they respond. Until then I will download Namo speech and cut that portion where he says, his govt will deport all illegal bangladeshis. I plan to go viral with that cut video and spread all over twitter etc.. and force BJP to issue a public declaration and commit to time by which they will deport.

btw on temple control, it is worse, in 2009 they promised to end govt control on temples in their manifesto, this time they removed that.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 16 Apr 2014 08:17

One more call for action

As you know, the South Bangalore race between BJP's Ananth Kumar and Nilekani is very tight. Nilekani is spending his millions like water and walking around with a posse of goondas & landsharks.

There is a request from BJP IT Cell to trend the #Ananth4NaMo hashtag. This can also be used alongwith the #Nilekani420 tag.

Lets create one more success after the previous one a few days ago! The link below has suggestions for what to tweet, accomplishments of Ananth Kumar etc

The tweeting has started now .............

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_dg ... edit?pli=1

disha · Post by **disha** » 16 Apr 2014 08:23

RamaY wrote:Got answers to my question

http://articles.economictimes.indiatime ... ty-members

NEW DELHI: BJP's prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi is set to embark on another marathon run of rallies across the country, addressing 185 public meetings in 295 constituencies in a span of seven weeks, beginning Wednesday.
So how many of these 295 convert into Lotus flowers?

NaMo's strike rate is 67% (rounded of/thumb of rule etc). He did something similar in 2002, 2007 & 2012 in Gujarat. He is scaling the lessons learnt into a wider election and traversing length and breadth.

So 67% of 295 is 197.65.

Now look at Murali'jis list. In worst case he is predicting 190 worst case. So now you can guess which constituency he is targeting. NaMo did not term this as "Bharat Vijay Rally" just by chance. In each, he is actually enthusing his party worker base. Basically ensuring that they will hold their compact of getting the people to the booth.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 16 Apr 2014 08:32

panduranghari wrote: Thus proving- All attacks on Modi by bestern Rags using sepoys and eggsperts of 'South Asia' have sanctions from their governments.

it would be hard to differentiate between government inspired attacks and saudi funded attacks. but it seems so far they are hand in hand.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 16 Apr 2014 08:46

People who has access to BJP leadership...

Start a #IamModiWave campaign with all BJP stalwarts retweeting to ask followers to reach out at least
10 Indian voters as they hashtag it. It can be something like...

"#IamModiWave I reach out 10 Indians to vote for Kamal/BJP/Modi"

Start with Modi handle, then 2nd wave Ramdev, SriSri types then BJP leaders wave then Media friends and so on...

a call from top leaders must go to every BJP neta/member to retweet this call.

Even if this results in another million+ votes that will determine 10-20 more seats. Every vote counts, every seat matters.

This needs to come from top.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 16 Apr 2014 08:47

muraliravi wrote:Rahul Mehta Sir,

I am sure you already noticed, BJP has all non committal junk on their manifesto wrt bangaldeshi infiltration. They talk about strict control of border (ok so what does that mean), they talk about fencing without any commitment, and above all, there is no word on deportation.

I have already bombarded them with emails, lets see when they respond. Until then I will download Namo speech and cut that portion where he says, his govt will deport all illegal bangladeshis. I plan to go viral with that cut video and spread all over twitter etc.. and force BJP to issue a public declaration and commit to time by which they will deport.

Let me know if you receive any reply. I have bombarded everyone in BJP with mails, and asked all leaders questions about the Bangladeshi issue, but have received no answer. Even Sadananda Gowda, for whose campaign I am working, did not give me a straight answer about their plans.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 16 Apr 2014 09:15

RamaY, why don't you send a message direct to Modi himself?

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 16 Apr 2014 09:17

muraliravi wrote:Not that i care or think that it is a key issue for the next govt, we can pretty much forget ram mandir under namo, the tv 9 interview should be proof enuf, i mean come on, he could not even open his mouth to say, yes i would like to see a temple there, but at the same time we will go by sc orders.

At this juncture, some things are better left unsaid.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 16 Apr 2014 09:28

SanjayC wrote:
muraliravi wrote:Not that i care or think that it is a key issue for the next govt, we can pretty much forget ram mandir under namo, the tv 9 interview should be proof enuf, i mean come on, he could not even open his mouth to say, yes i would like to see a temple there, but at the same time we will go by sc orders.
At this juncture, some things are better left unsaid.

Guj govt banned conversions under Modi. Was it part of manifesto?

Anyway, if lotus gets good number of seats(above 250), then lotus fans(most of whom are Hindhuthva fans) expect lotus to do something on its Hindhuthva items. If it does not, then it risks losing their support. When fans are miffed, they behave like scorned lovers i.e. they become antis.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 16 Apr 2014 09:28

Modi should respond to Sonia's TV campaign about Hindustaniyat by coming out with his own 2-min spot on "idea of India" or Bharatiyata and BJP should bombard all TV channels with this.

There is danger of some segments of fence-sitters buying into Congress scare campaign of Hindu-Muslim violence if Modi comes to power... Modi needs to address this head on.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 16 Apr 2014 09:35

Arjun wrote:Modi should respond to Sonia's TV campaign about Hindustaniyat by coming out with his own 2-min spot on "idea of India" or Bharatiyata and BJP should bombard all TV channels with this.

There is danger of some segments of fence-sitters buying into Congress scare campaign of Hindu-Muslim violence if Modi comes to power... Modi needs to address this head on.

Lotus should release an ad with following stats:
Number of riots in kongi ruling vs number of riots in lotus ruling.
Number of riot deaths in kongis ruling vs number of riots deaths in lotus ruling.
Total property damage in kongi ruling vs total property damage in lotus ruling.(adjusted for inflation)
Punishments handed in riot cases in kongiruling vs punishments handed in riot cases in lotus ruling.
Number of Hindhus killed in kongi ruling vs number of Hindhus killed in lotus ruling.
Number of non-Hindhus killed in kongi ruling vs number of non-Hindhus killed in lotus ruling.

Kongi and its allies can be clubbed together for the sake of more clarity.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 16 Apr 2014 09:40

johneeG wrote:
Arjun wrote:Modi should respond to Sonia's TV campaign about Hindustaniyat by coming out with his own 2-min spot on "idea of India" or Bharatiyata and BJP should bombard all TV channels with this.

There is danger of some segments of fence-sitters buying into Congress scare campaign of Hindu-Muslim violence if Modi comes to power... Modi needs to address this head on.
Lotus should release an ad with following stats:
Number of riots in kongi ruling vs number of riots in lotus ruling.
Number of riot deaths in kongis ruling vs number of riots deaths in lotus ruling.
Total property damage in kongi ruling vs total property damage in lotus ruling.(adjusted for inflation)
Punishments handed in riot cases in kongiruling vs punishments handed in riot cases in lotus ruling.
Number of Hindhus killed in kongi ruling vs number of Hindhus killed in lotus ruling.
Number of non-Hindhus killed in kongi ruling vs number of non-Hindhus killed in lotus ruling.

Kongi and its allies can be clubbed together for the sake of more clarity.

Excellent suggestion.

If somebody is hearing in this wilderness, please at least release the data in the Social Media (only if the MSM route is not available).

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 16 Apr 2014 09:52

SanjayC wrote:
muraliravi wrote:Not that i care or think that it is a key issue for the next govt, we can pretty much forget ram mandir under namo, the tv 9 interview should be proof enuf, i mean come on, he could not even open his mouth to say, yes i would like to see a temple there, but at the same time we will go by sc orders.
At this juncture, some things are better left unsaid.

Yup. Useless to demand biryani with kaju, fried onion and raisins in spite of risks of not getting even dal rice. Time for garnishing will come in good time.

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 16 Apr 2014 10:19

johneeG wrote:
Arjun wrote:Modi should respond to Sonia's TV campaign about Hindustaniyat by coming out with his own 2-min spot on "idea of India" or Bharatiyata and BJP should bombard all TV channels with this.

There is danger of some segments of fence-sitters buying into Congress scare campaign of Hindu-Muslim violence if Modi comes to power... Modi needs to address this head on.
Lotus should release an ad with following stats:
Number of riots in kongi ruling vs number of riots in lotus ruling.
Number of riot deaths in kongis ruling vs number of riots deaths in lotus ruling.
Total property damage in kongi ruling vs total property damage in lotus ruling.(adjusted for inflation)
Punishments handed in riot cases in kongiruling vs punishments handed in riot cases in lotus ruling.
Number of Hindhus killed in kongi ruling vs number of Hindhus killed in lotus ruling.
Number of non-Hindhus killed in kongi ruling vs number of non-Hindhus killed in lotus ruling.

Kongi and its allies can be clubbed together for the sake of more clarity.

The number of deaths is a very sensitive figure. I have seen many fence-sitters getting turned off when this is compared, since according to them (and rightly so in an ideal world), even one is too many. Only those with a sense of proportion can appreciate that figure.