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Well played India to hold off super duper TFTA Ghazi bowlers on a fifth day and blunt them to the ground despite Sehwag going early... This team truly has some spunk and is reflective of the new India which will not back down. An older Indian team would have lost 1 wicket till lunch and lost 9 between lunch and tea.. :mrgreen:

If the roles had been reversed, we would have 5 pages filled with how Indian bowling has gone to the dogs and they could take only 3 wickets on a 5th day wearing, crack filled pitch.. :(( :((

( PS: I can bet that no team would have attempted 340 in 90 overs on this pitch where the ball was misbehaving quite a bit (only 3 wickets might not present correct nature of the pitch due to the grit/technique shown by our batsmen). Any team which would have started would have piped down after loosing 3-4 wickets trying to go for their shots)
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I think we did attempt to win in this type of situation in Australia sometime back and only played for a draw when we lost a few wickets. We could have done it here too. After playing 15 overs in the morning we could have tried to step up the pace.
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Boring day of play but then we salvaged a draw so all ij well.
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saip, you can only mean the sydney test but we lost wickets from the first and never really tried to win there.
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ashokpachori wrote:
People come to watch the fun and not otherwise Sandeep. Either you win, or you loose, but not in a middle ground to speak of to the detriment to paying public. Public wants 4s, 6s, aggressive batting - show them the beef!
Watch baseball for that (or T20 :twisted: ) ...swing and miss and home runs.
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Rule change required.

If the team batting first is done with all 10 players in each innings, then the team batting last has to get all the time in the world ( an extra day or two) to finish their innings and force a result. That should scare the life out of everyone and force the hand. Bowlers will not want to tire out for sure.

* apply the rule only if 3 complete innings is already played by the 5th day...else a test match could go on forever. :P
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sum wrote:( PS: I can bet that no team would have attempted 340 in 90 overs on this pitch where the ball was misbehaving quite a bit (only 3 wickets might not present correct nature of the pitch due to the grit/technique shown by our batsmen). Any time which would have started would have piped down after loosing 3-4 wickets trying to go for their shots)
well behaved or not, I'm not aware of a single instance where a batting team has tried to chase a 300+ target on a 5th day pitch with RRR ~ 4.

bade mian, that's what used to be called timeless tests. sometime back I was thinking that's the only way true strength can be measured. :P
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I'd rather make pitch preparation business universal standard rather country specific.
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I'd rather watch world ludo championship rather than cricket on some universal pitch business.
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Just like artificial turf for hockey, has any one tried artificial turf for cricket? Years ago we used to have matting wickets. Do they still use them in India?
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they were used in my school to cover up a cement pitch. I was not good enough to be in my class team and not in the jocks circle, so no idea what its impact on speed or spin was.
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Didn't we change from country specific umpiring to having a neutral one from a panel of international umpires and again both the umpires from an elite panel later on?
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ashokpachori wrote:
Not sure why you think drawn matches are so bad

Sandeep you wont find this (draw) situation in MANY sports, whereby an outcome is indecisive. Sports are played to win, to acheive, and not to loose or get tied with your opponent.

Think of those spectators who are out there with a five day pass in the stadia, and our team is scoring at snails pace, just to remain on the safe side.

People come to watch the fun and not otherwise Sandeep. Either you win, or you loose, but not in a middle ground to speak of to the detriment to paying public. Public wants 4s, 6s, aggressive batting - show them the beef!

What if Duckworth-Lewis method is introduced? will not they pull up thier socks and boost thier strike rate?

Look at Sehwag Smith, he slamms every ball, be it test or ODI, his strike rate in the test remains OK most of the time. Why this kind of temperament is absent in others?( I mean SAicans)

You know there are pros and cons to every thingy.
If it is a draw, so be it.
I was just putting up my perception of what I have seen of IndianSA cricket along the years on the table.

Its all good though....we are here for the pros and con after all, and not to harrass others, or get harrassed.

Its dinner time guys, enjoy wherever you might be.
Buenas noche.
Just for a change think of SA.
see how it works. read all your statements made so far with SA.(shivering and cowering in a dark kave kamplex with dhoti spread all over myself to prevent being seen others) [/size]
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If you made the weave taut the pitch could be very bouncy and fast but if the weave is loose it would take spin and not help the pace bowlers. Pakistan used to be accused of this practice when foreign teams toured. They made them taut when the home team bowled and loose when the visiting team bowled. Then it was pitch tampering and now it is ball tampering by the pakis.
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SaiK wrote:Didn't we change from country specific umpiring to having a neutral one from a panel of international umpires and again both the umpires from an elite panel later on?
Whatever happened to all the beef that Morkel, Steyn, Tsteshobe ate? How come on such a fiery wicket, the beef eaters didn't make mince meat out of the dal, roti, thair sadam/lemon eating SDREs.

Guys, say what you want, but I watched the first 10 overs or so and then later on. The manner in which Gambhir and Sehwah handled the fiery pace, bounce, and swing of Morkel and Steyn under intemse pressure was commendable. They showed a lot of spunk. At the end of day, I would say that India was the superior side. I still go back to yesterday, and with SA reeling at 130 odd for 6, something went wrong. I won't let Dhoni off the hook. Maybe bowlers are to blame for not cleaning up the SA tail, but Dhoni's bears some responsibility. He could have used some part timers, induced some false strokes, something novel, instead of just rotating the 4 bowlers he had.

One last comment. I am sick and tired of this Sreesanth bashing for his sledging and other antics. Sure, Sreesanth does make a fool of himself, esepcially since his performance is not as commensurate with his antics. But for Dhoni to publicly rebuke him is crossing the line. He is supposed to support his team, not impress the powers to be with his enforcement of discipline. I am getting the faint feeling that Dhoni is turning out to be another larger than life, arrognat dada.

An SDRE turns against another SDRE in a heartbeat, but the day when SDREs unite and taken on the "superior" beef-eating TFTAs, is the day when India will have arrived, not just on the cricket field, but in other endeavours too :-).
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CRamS wrote:I am getting the faint feeling that Dhoni is turning out to be another larger than life, arrognat dada.
huh! If you mean Ganguly then I do not recall him ever not supporting his team. I also did not like Dhoni not supporting Sreesanth but excerpts on cricinfo may not be the full picture.
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CRamS, thalia.. now jusht think the real SDREs have already arrived in BR! :twisted: , let us see how many of them have a united thought for jusht sake of argument? bring on some pointers, and test it out right here.

If the SDREs here can't agree, why blame the ones on the field?
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Marten wrote:quote="ashokpachori"] I suggest renting a good prono flick instead -- more action, more beef, more excitement
And a happy climax
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beef or leaf, happy climax is always a win.
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viv wrote:
CRamS wrote:I am getting the faint feeling that Dhoni is turning out to be another larger than life, arrognat dada.
huh! If you mean Ganguly then I do not recall him ever not supporting his team. I also did not like Dhoni not supporting Sreesanth but excerpts on cricinfo may not be the full picture.
IIRC ganguly supported his team fully. He had staunch supporters from players.
Even gawd and RD were ok with him. also supported him.

Media is bit like a paqi. Also fault lies with the management not giving a proper media briefing allowing jarnails to write juicy stories.
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Dhoni can expect nice booing when he comes to Kochi next time.
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Visually, I have seen only yuvraj taking on pranthan when he clapped the umpire (check youtube). Dhoni perhaps only does backhanded slaps. BTW, during the third test, pranthan did "hit" :twisted: one of the umpire in his bowling action once knocking off the sweater umpire keeps. It was little funny but was a little bit tense, when the umpire did not grin much. Should he go so close?
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All SDRE fast bowlers had tight bowling average in the SA second innings. Even Sree had not conceded many runs, but got no wickets. Maybe that explains the loss or lack of "aggression" except for Bhajji who got 7 wickets. So Doni to be blamed for the so called "dressing down" of Sree for being wacko. Sree is quite ordinary without his rituals and wacko-ness maybe.
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Bade wrote: Sree is quite ordinary without his rituals and wacko-ness maybe.
Novelty is what creates a buzz around you. a unique one :rotfl:
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but sree ko gursa kyon atha hai?
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^^ He may be taking his dedication to play too seriously, while others are in it for the money and contracts and do not want to make compromises on their wallets. :P
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Bade wrote:^^ He may be taking his dedication to play too seriously, while others are in it for the money and contracts and do not want to make compromises on their wallets. :P
Quite possible. One thing no one can accuse Sreesanth about is lack of commitment. He comes in and bowls every ball trying to take wicket whether it is the first day or the fifth day of a match going to be a tame draw. If Munaf Patel was half as enthusiastic about his job then he would be giving Steyn a run for his money in the ranking charts right now.
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perhaps gursa may not be the problem, but the mocking antics - like clapping at the umpire, etc.. that crosses the line. I like the aggression he shows with the ball and the delivery to hurt the batsman like kallis. if he can cut that off, then he would be great, and well received by his kaptaan.
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It is like saying if we could make all these shivering in their dhotis SDRE arm-chair jingoes go eat beef :-) instead of leaf as you put it, and make them TFTA enough to face at least the pacqis.

* for all you know the SDREs are eating beef under cover :mrgreen: but still no signs of looking and behaving TFTA.
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must be a haraam one then? :mrgreen: . btw, even the cloven footers eat leaf, so no thakleef there.

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btw, it is all the bells and cooks prior to the inglund win for ashes!
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South Africans have not won a HOME test series since they beat bangladesh in 2008. talk about aggressiveness. :eek: :eek:
MSD has not lost a test series in all countries since he became a test captain. :D
bearded maulanas bliz to correct me if am wrong. :mrgreen:
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Congrats to TI for saving the match. Best we could have hoped for under the circumstances, although this match will go down as a huge opportunity lost thanks to Kallis and our chronic inability to clean up the tail.

P.S: Do we really need to have this ridiculous pakiesque discussion on how Beef eating makes one TFTA?
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Someone here advting about SA so called aggresiveness should read this

http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-afric ... 95732.html

A quote worth mensioning
Harris has proved himself invaluable in containing roles, he often gets key wickets during crucial passages of play, but he is self-admittedly not an attacking spin bowler. His value for the team comes in other areas, for example, he only gave away 29 runs in his 30 overs on the final day and he is part of the brains trust of the team, but he is not a bowler who is known for being aggressive. South Africa have been happy with a containing spinner in their side but have shown signs of wanting a more attacking one, and with Imran Tahir becoming eligible to play for them, they may have found one. This Test match highlighted why, at times, they will need one.
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very Godly numbers for the South African gawd http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/co ... 95719.html
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Poms pummell roos . :rotfl:
first time in its history, all matches kangaroos lost by an innings in a series defeat. :eek: :eek:
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heh heh they needed 151 to avoid a innings defeat today and duly surrendered. lets mine the aussie media.
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how the high and mighty fall..... Bwahahahahahahaha!
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But this is their youngistan team no...without their fab4.
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krisna wrote:South Africans have not won a HOME test series since they beat bangladesh in 2008. talk about aggressiveness. :eek: :eek:
MSD has not lost a test series in all countries since he became a test captain. :D
bearded maulanas bliz to correct me if am wrong. :mrgreen:
Good, now you can grow a beard and self declare yourself a Maulana, before the series i remember the hype of SA would
crush TI and show TI its worth, but the opposite happened, TI swatted SA challenge as one would a lowly fly, pray tell me gentlemen what team with supposedly most TFTA bowling in whole duyina could take a measly 3 TI wikits 0n a 5th day peech toiling whole day? hain? remember Kolkatta test last year, SA were in similar position, just bat out to over number 80 and draw the test, TI
cleaned them up with few overs to spare, TFTA Lions my mush.
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