News - Osama Bin Laden - killed In Pakistan

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 02 May 2011 21:10

My bit is - Low flying Chappers are not easy to detect. Further Pakiland do not have such a radar cover anywhere and particluarly is on the west side. In all probabulity the US seals will have full details of the radar net gaps etc to make the run. Their run also will aviod any visual observation possibility. Black Howk is the likely chapper because it is quite silent.I don't thing they would have used any libaral jamming as it may have been interpreted by Paki A** H**ls as Indian jamming. Considaring the distence there may have been at least one refuling dump stop within Paki land. One chapper is said ot be down. Possibilly shot down by pro Osama Paki army and not made public by US for the time being. There seems to be lot of door to door searching the pakiland immediately after the attack. So some seals must have been left behind when the helicaptor is down and picked up by other chapper. One women (wife of Osama???) and Osama son are also killed. So no civilians and no hands barred attack with orders to kill anything that moves. Great thing.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 02 May 2011 21:14

..so paki nukes can now be taken out as well!

go for it seals!

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 02 May 2011 21:16

Was not Osama married to Mullah Omar's sister or daughter ?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 May 2011 21:16

SaiK wrote:..so paki nukes can now be taken out as well! go for it seals!

My thoughts exactly. Any false move by TSP and their crown jewels become glass trinkets.

Prem< OBL and Mullah Omar exchanged their daughters. Real preverts.

Also are they sure its DEVGRU and not DEV Guru?

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 02 May 2011 21:19

The secret team that killed bin Laden.

From Ghazi Air Base in Pakistan, the modified MH-60 helicopters made their way to the garrison suburb of Abbottabad, about 30 miles from the center of Islamabad. Aboard were Navy SEALs, flown across the border from Afghanistan, along with tactical signals, intelligence collectors, and navigators using highly classified hyperspectral imagers.

After bursts of fire over 40 minutes, 22 people were killed or captured. One of the dead was Osama bin Laden, done in by a double tap — boom, boom — to the left side of his face. His body was aboard the choppers that made the trip back. One had experienced mechanical failure and was destroyed by U.S. forces, military and White House officials tell NationalJournal.

Were it not for this high-value target, it might have been a routine mission for the specially trained and highly mythologized SEAL Team Six, officially called the Naval Special Warfare Development Group, but known even to the locals at their home base Dam Neck in Virginia as just DevGru.

In an interview at CIA headquarters two weeks ago, a senior intelligence official said the two proud groups of American secret warriors had been “deconflicted and basically integrated” — finally — 10 years after 9/11. Indeed, according to accounts given to journalists by five senior administration officials Sunday night, the CIA gathered the intelligence that led to bin Laden’s location. A memo from CIA Director Leon Panetta sent Sunday night provides some hints of how the information was collected and analyzed. In it, he thanked the National Security Agency and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency for their help. NSA figured out, somehow, that there was no telephone or Internet service in the compound. How it did this without Pakistan’s knowledge is a secret. The NGIA makes the military’s maps but also develops their pattern recognition software — no doubt used to help establish, by February of this year, that the CIA could say with “high probability” that bin Laden and his family were living there.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 02 May 2011 21:19

Gagan wrote:Pres. Obama is on TV LIVE NOW>

It is a ceremony to honor two American heroes from another war.

mraghu · Post by **mraghu** » 02 May 2011 21:19

In the absence of an real facts coming out so soon, Pakis and their henchmen in the media will have a field day saying how great the partnership was on that night. Probably A " Bob woodword" or a "Seymour Hersh" factoids will come up in 3-4 months, that's when we will get to hear the real story. Until then we need to bear with the noise.

jarugn · Post by **jarugn** » 02 May 2011 21:20

Bin Laden mission violated Pakistan

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -pakistan/

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 02 May 2011 21:20

Arnab is doing some Mushariff of some paki jurno

derkonig · Post by **derkonig** » 02 May 2011 21:21

Before all you saffron fundamentalists go about celebrating OBL's kutte ki maut, pl. to spare a thought for our sekoolaar MMS who surely can never get any sleep again...

sunnyP · Post by **sunnyP** » 02 May 2011 21:25

RamaY wrote:
Indian intelligence agencies were able to track down OBL's exact location early this year. They have been planning a special ops mission to kill OBL and expose USA and Pakistan perfidy.

That is why India went along with GCC plan to move 20K+ Pakistani army to GCC area, so it will reduce the risk of Paki retaliation after the planned cross-border raid.

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Thanks for sharing and I do not doubt most of what you've been told is true.

I just find it hard to believe India was willing to launch a cross border raid to kill/capture/expose Osama yet for years we've not been willing to conduct similar raids to kill anti India elements in POK.

sanjeevpunj · Post by **sanjeevpunj** » 02 May 2011 21:26

While impotent masses celebrate deaths of others, the wise and strong ones plan their next target.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 02 May 2011 21:29

According to latest information FBI had decided to give the prize money to ISI chief Pasha and COAS Kiyani, but unusually Zardari is asking 20% share of it.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 02 May 2011 21:31

kmkraoind wrote:
According to latest information FBI had decided to give the prize money to ISI chief Pasha and COAS Kiyani, but unusually Zardari is asking 20% share of it.

He increased his cut to 25% today.

jarugn · Post by **jarugn** » 02 May 2011 21:32

ISI admits not part of the operation to kill Bin Laden! US mission undetected by Pakistan radars and other toys! Complete Shock!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... TopStories

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 May 2011 21:37

the national journal article on the JSOC posted above has this detail.
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Several dozen JSOC operatives have died in Pakistan over the past several years. Their names are released by the Defense Department in the usual manner, but with a cover story -- generally, they were killed in training accidents in eastern Afghanistan. That’s the code.

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 02 May 2011 21:38

My apologies for not having read all of this fast moving thread.
Just wanted to check. Is it clear from the official descriptions wether the five killed were the sole occupants of the compound? Or were there others (women) who were captured alive?

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 02 May 2011 21:39

Hamid MIr says on timesnow that Laden's wife and daughter are in the custody of Pakis.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 02 May 2011 21:39

Hamid Mir says credible information that some family members actually with Pakistani forces, one wife was injured, 11 year old daughter too.

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 02 May 2011 21:40

i'm still at page 20.

surprise was important. and i think only surprise at ingress(10-20 minutes) was important. after that what could tsp do even if they knew? they cant shoot down a vehicle with > 20 ameerkhans can they?

tsp didnot know or knew only at the very last moment that some op is on. they didnot know which was the target. there might so many targets in that general area, which are they going to secure and how many are they going to securely move?

if a lion attacks a caravan and every child is same and equally important, which one of them will will they save?

i think the US pulled one over tsp. tsp is going to flail.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 02 May 2011 21:42

Hamid mir is an ISI / Talibunny stooge.
I've followed him for several years. He used to be vitriolically anti indian.
He changed after Agra-Mushy visit.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 May 2011 21:42

methinks chances are EU based sleeper cells are going to come surging out in a day of rage. police CT forces must be on high alert in europe and wont be in a mood to take any chances.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 02 May 2011 21:43

All the more reason to trust his data points.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 02 May 2011 21:43

Hilali threatning on times now of less cooperation in future and keep backing taliban.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 02 May 2011 21:44

Nandu wrote:My apologies for not having read all of this fast moving thread.
Just wanted to check. Is it clear from the official descriptions wether the five killed were the sole occupants of the compound? Or were there others (women) who were captured alive?

22 people captured or killed
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42858824/ns ... bin_laden/

From Ghazi Air Base in Pakistan, the modified MH-60 helicopters made their way to the garrison suburb of Abbottabad, about 30 miles from the center of Islamabad. Aboard were Navy SEALs, flown across the border from Afghanistan, along with tactical signals, intelligence collectors, and navigators using highly classified hyperspectral imagers.

After bursts of fire over 40 minutes, 22 people were killed or captured. One of the dead was Osama bin Laden, done in by a double tap — boom, boom — to the left side of his face. His body was aboard the choppers that made the trip back. One had experienced mechanical failure and was destroyed by U.S. forces, military and White House officials tell NationalJournal.

also

How did the helos elude the Pakistani air defense network? Did they spoof transponder codes? Were they painted and tricked out with Pakistan Air Force equipment? If so — and we may never know — two other JSOC units, the Technical Application Programs Office and the Aviation Technology Evaluation Group, were responsible.

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 02 May 2011 21:47

The press briefing says: "There were several women and children at the compound. One woman was killed when she was used as a shield by a male combatant. Two other women were injured. During the raid, we lost one helicopter due to mechanical failure. The aircraft was destroyed by the crew and the assault force and crew members boarded the remaining aircraft to exit the compound. All non-combatants were moved safely away from the compound before the detonation."

So, I don't see how they could be in Paki custody.

Thank you, Shiv.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 May 2011 21:47

pretty amazing show if they managed a 22:0 score after 40 mins of fighting.

the women and kids were probably just left behind outside the compound for the pakpolice to pick up. their intelligence value would be zero because the arabs never involve women and kids when men talk serious stuff. so thats how the pakpolice got hold of them.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 02 May 2011 21:48

Why are Divijay Singh, Mulayam Singh, H Surjit, A roy, B Dutt, Sidarth Vardarajan, Teesta S, And S. Azmi keeping quiet? If Indian soldiers did somthing like this wouldn't immediately scream FAKE ENCOUNTER. Why are the Human rights group quiet. Similarly, Isnt the killing of Qadafi Grand Children a war crime.

Shows the Hypocracy all the Human rights wallahas and where thier loyalties lie, Doesnt it?

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 02 May 2011 21:48

shaardula wrote:i'm still at page 20.

surprise was important. and i think only surprise at ingress(10-20 minutes) was important. after that what could tsp do even if they knew? they cant shoot down a vehicle with > 20 ameerkhans can they?

Probably when the Paki establishment are coordinating their efforts, probably they have a heard a mechanical sweet Betty voice telling "This is a danger zone, please stay away, there is an CIA operation underway, please stay away." US would have thought off this, and probably snooping communications around Abbottabad to prevent any nasty show off by local commanders and to warn them to stay off of the fighting zone . JMT.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 02 May 2011 21:49

Nandu wrote:All non-combatants were moved safely away from the compound before the detonation."

So, I don't see how they could be in Paki custody.
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They may have gotten all they needed and left some behind. After all, their payload must have been limited.

Leave a calling card in addition.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 02 May 2011 21:50

Singha wrote:pretty amazing show if they managed a 22:0 score after 40 mins of fighting.

Yeah actually if accounts are true .... Khan spec ops has lived up to its hype.

Sridhar · Post by **Sridhar** » 02 May 2011 21:50

Does anybody know what happened to UBL's goats? Are they in the list of casualties or were they captured?

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 02 May 2011 21:51

Singha wrote:pretty amazing show if they managed a 22:0 score after 40 mins of fighting.

the women and kids were probably just left behind outside the compound for the pakpolice to pick up. their intelligence value would be zero because the arabs never involve women and kids when men talk serious stuff. so thats how the pakpolice got hold of them.

Well its about time. The Iran rescue attempt was botched and Somalia was a disaster.

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 02 May 2011 21:51

Lessons for India
1. Never buy amirkhan equipment, who knows what would happen when we use hercules on a spec-op
2. Concentrate on non-traditional areas while searching for the people on your top 20 list
3. If submarine visits your port let Pakis know as part of CBMs that someone has his tickets booked for meeting with 72s

Lessons for Pakis
1. Your whole life is a lesson for you.
2. Dont buy Chinese equipment they copy the design and the listening devices, so even if the radars are made in China they can still be listened by Khan
3. No one in your country is to be trusted, everyone is sold
4. Take your radars off India's borders, they are dharmic, they will not attack you after night-fall, they will give you dossiers before they cow down so those radars on your eastern border are not going to catch even one indian aircraft in their lifetime
5. If radars can be jammed think about what can be done to your fizayahs, may be they have sensors in their tyre which will puncture the tyre if you plan to take off on a mission that you havent told khan dada about, so use them for the purpose they were originally gifted to you i.e., throwing bombs on the talibunnies

Lessons for China
1. Tera munna gaya

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 02 May 2011 21:52

Marten wrote: Nice house btw... and I'd keep an eye on that Taleb gardener - he likes your second wife, your eldest daughter, and both the sons."

GPs response was priceless "I am glad that Hilali accepts being in cahoots with Talibans who are killing americans merrily, and yes
he is also right in saying that it is a matter between US and Pakis and Indians should not interefere, we are quite happy to see how their relationship plays out."

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 02 May 2011 21:52

Gus wrote:feeling a little happy..

managed to expose paki perfidy at workplace to at least 10 people. every little helps i guess.

Today I had this big meeting. I took the board and markers and explained them that ALQuida == PA == ISI. Most of them agreed and concurred with me. I am happy that associating with BRF for such a long time really gives clarity in thoughts and expressions too.

Special kudos to Gagan for putting all the google earth imagery.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 02 May 2011 21:54

Hamid Mir days are numbered.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 May 2011 21:54

a delta force led task force did manage to hunt down and arrest or kill most of the 'pack of jokers' in iraq too - incl killing his two sons in mosul town with ATGMs. though not hard stand up fight they did the job.

increasingly intel people and shooters seem to mix into same task forces.. kinda like what RAA JIT used to be or was meant to be.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 02 May 2011 21:54

Suppiah wrote: 40 minutes is a long time....not like hostage rescue etc, which typically get over in seconds if not minutes..takes a lot of looking the other way..

A country where explosions and gunfiring is a daily affair, 40 mins is too short time for police or any paki even to wake up and think of acting.

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 02 May 2011 21:55

Were Mr.Brandy and Mr.Singh part of this operation ?