Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 2011

Shalav · Post by **Shalav** » 26 May 2011 07:20

Sridhar,

The pakistanis simply were not prepared, if the anti-terror group is so lax, that too with the country facing terror attacks everyday, one can only think they did not expect to be called out at such short notice. Logically one should conclude their mind-state was that there was no danger to their own house.

Thats what you think of your own crazed pit-bull till the bloody thing rips out your throat, angry at some imagined slight.

I am preaching to the choir here, but this will be blamed on everything under the sun except themselves.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 26 May 2011 07:22

Suicide bomber hits CID building in Peshawar

The SSG complex was also partially damaged. The deceased Army soldier was identified as Maqsood Alam of the Special Services Group (SSG).

ranjbe · Post by **ranjbe** » 26 May 2011 07:26

Very good insight on Fair by a American babu; Cross-Post from India-US Strategic Discussion thread, Rudradev:

Rudradev wrote:All,

I had the good fortune to interact with a mid-senior level Phoggy Bottom Babu in DC over the last weekend. He is at South Asia desk, quite heavily involved in negotiations with South Block, accompanied Obama to Delhi last year, etc.

Some random things to report, from his perspective, regarding US-India relations.

1) Roemer did not quit over the MRCA deal. He had been planning to quit for months, as his family did not like staying in India at all.

2) The State Dept impression of Roemer is that he is a very energetic guy but a little A.D.D.; could not focus enough to address any single issue with tenacity. South Block of course, is all about tenacity.

3) US Policy on Pakistan is likely to continue as is, for the most part. Nobody has any better ideas, at least that they're willing to talk about in public. Everything about Pakistani perfidy is known to the State Dept and has been known since 9/11. Various scenarios associated with Paki nukes are considered the biggest area of concern; in effect, my source said, the US is being blackmailed and does not have solutions with a reasonable cost-benefit ratio at present.

4) State Dept usually retains a "hangover" momentum from the previous administration's policies. During the Clinton administration, Clinton himself was generally pro-India, but State Dept was anti-India with cold warriors like Warren Christopher and Madeline Allbright in charge. Today Obama is much less actively pro-India than G.W.Bush was... but State Dept. still retains some of the momentum from the Bush/Rice days of being relatively pro-India. Only Presidents can effect a sea change in policy: State Dept are Babus who are largely in the business of implementing pre-existing policy directives rather than coming up with new ones. However, Presidents see things through the lenses of their priorities, and for Obama, India is not that big a priority as it was for GWB.

5) Important: Regarding Think Tankers/Experts, since we pay so much attention to their writings and pronouncements on BR.

Of all the South Asia experts in the US, five are considered to be top-league. Bruce Reidel, Ashley Tellis, Dan Markey, George Perkovitch and Robert Einhorn.

6) Of these five, Reidel, Tellis and Markey are the ones most often consulted by State Dept. regarding US-India policy.

Ashley Tellis is the most pro-India of them all. I must stress here, that my source told me that Ashley Tellis has done more for positive US policy on India than all the other State Dept. people combined. Whether or not you agree that the Nuclear Deal was a good thing for India, it must be recognized that Ashley Tellis was instrumental in getting it formulated and passed, and that he did this out of the most sincere personal conviction that the Nuclear Deal was a good thing for India.

In short, Ashley Tellis is as much a true son of India as a US-citizen working for the US government can possibly be. Regardless of what we think of the Nuclear Deal, he must be recognized and honoured for this. And the fact that State Dept. continues to consult him is a good sign for India.

7) Reidel and Markey are considered to be "balanced" in their views. Their opinions also carry a lot of weight. In general they are not considered to be anti-India.

8 ) George Perkovitch and Robert Einhorn are considered to be anti-India. The words used to describe Perkovitch: "he is difficult to talk to about India."

The important thing for us to realize, is that the State Dept is aware of their bias and applies a judicious amount of salt to whatever they peddle about India.

Perkovitch and Einhorn are not consulted as much as Tellis, Reidel and Markey on matters regarding India.

9) Despite how much importance we give Stephen Cohen on BRF, he was never considered a pre-eminent South Asia expert by the GOTUS, not even in the same league with the five I have mentioned. Today he is considered a has-been even among circles where he was once respected. The Pakistanis wasted their efforts by feeding him samosas fried by Begum Zia's delicate hands. Other than addressing second-rate media circuses and writing largely unheeded columns, Uneven Cohen is of not much consequence.

10) The above applies ten times as much to C. Christine Fair. The opinion in the State Dept. is that she is a "kook". (sic.) Nobody who matters pays any attention to her at all. She is marginalized, frustrated, dismissed and generally worthless... no wonder she sympathizes so much with the Pakis.

So save your heartburn when you read anything written by Uneven Cohen or Christine Unfair... nobody at State Dept. (let alone the White House) gives a $hit about them.

11) Funny. The babu I spoke to had never even heard of George Friedman or STRATFOR! Really, sometimes we spend a lot of effort on BRF chasing shadows and confusing their pronouncements with genuine GOTUS opinions on foreign policy.

12) Lastly, Holbrooke is largely considered to have failed in his brief all around. He was consistently stonewalled in India, and the opinion is that he was not the right diplomat for the region.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 26 May 2011 07:34

OIC to shift ICCI’s head office to Qatar

KARACHI - Citing security concerns as the reason, the members of the Organisation of Islamic Countries (OIC) has decided to shift the headquarters of Islamic Chamber of Commerce and Industry (ICCI) from Pakistan to Qatar. The ICCI’s General Assembly chose Qatar as the new headquarter through a resolution and decided to host the July 2012 meetings of the statute of the Chamber in Doha.

lakshmikanth · Post by **lakshmikanth** » 26 May 2011 07:41

The recent spate of soosai bombings and the PNS Mehran incident makes me think that the focus of the terrorists/Alq has now officially changed to the TFTA pakees instead of the FATA pakis who were gladly sacrificed by the more TFTA pakjabis.

I bet the TFTA pakees must be a worried lot with a bunch of them thinking about Canadian Visa seriously. Each attack against the TFTAs would make their facade even more fragile with rats defecting left, right and center, I hope it all crumbles soon... AoA.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 26 May 2011 08:05

Increase your blood pressure by reading this article

US Senators to Clinton: Tell Pakistan to halt export of bomb materials

The cost of Pakistan's double game

The escalating war against the Pakistani state

The storming of Mehran has clearly exposed inadequacies in the defense and security arrangements, inadequacies for which a restless public will demand an explanation. Yet the attack raises far more troubling questions about Pakistan's long-held "double game" of supporting "good" militants while fighting "bad" ones. Does the string of attacks on military and intelligence assets mean those trained in these tactics against India have now turned on their past benefactor? Is it the hatred for the military establishment they believe has betrayed them, or do these attacks mark a full surrender to the ideology of al-Qaeda that has unleashed former state-sanctioned mujahideen on the Pakistani establishment? It is likely some combination of the two, but regardless, the increasingly violent turn paired with the growing military aptitude of Pakistan's foes means that they country's military may soon be forced to reconsider the means they have deployed for so long to meet their regional ends.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 26 May 2011 08:14

Prof. Fair should watch out! Colin Freeze, covering the Rana trial tweeted:

Colinfreeze Colin Freeze
ISI drawn to Headley because he was a white-skinned American citizen who spoke Urdu, Punjabi, Hindi, English. #Ranatrial

panda · Post by **panda** » 26 May 2011 08:23

Regarding Anatol Lieven's following writing:

Putting things in perspective, Lieven points out that Pakistan is not alone in the region in suffering from armed insurgency: Sri Lanka and Burma have faced rebellions that have lasted far longer; and India has been fighting the Naxalite uprising in vast swathes of its territory for decades. As he writes in the introduction:
“Pakistan is in fact a great deal more like India or India like Pakistan — than either country would wish to admit. If Pakistan were an Indian state, then in terms of development, order and per capita income it would find itself somewhere in the middle, considerably below Karnataka but considerably above Bihar. Or to put it another way, if India were only the `cow-belt` of Hindi-speaking north India, it probably wouldn`t be a democracy or a growing economic power either, but some form of impoverished Hindu-nationalist dictatorship, riven by local conflicts.”

Pure logical fallacy and conclusion without supporting evidence. Take for example:

If Pakistan were an Indian state, then in terms of development, order and per capita income it would find itself somewhere in the middle, considerably below Karnataka but considerably above Bihar.

Comparing the minimum of one set of samples with the average of another set of samples, one can draw any absurd conclusion. The following statements follow this line of reasoning:

1) The US currency would be stronger than the British currency, if British currency consisted of penny only.
2) The average male would have bigger breasts than females, if females consisted of one year old girls only.

Then take the following line:

Or to put it another way, if India were only the `cow-belt` of Hindi-speaking north India, it probably wouldn`t be a democracy or a growing economic power either, but some form of impoverished Hindu-nationalist dictatorship, riven by local conflicts.

Lieven puts it as if this statement is justified by the previous statement (which, in itself, is a fallacy). I don't see any evidence to justify this. Rather, there are circumstantial evidence pointing to the contrary. Consider this: some of the most well known liberal-democratic minded leaders have been from 'cow-belt', e.g. Rajendra Prasad, Lal Bahadur Shastry etc. When Indira Gandhi imposed emergency, the 'cow-belt' was the most vocal in opposing it. JP, George Fernandez etc. were essentially from this region. So, how does one believe that the 'cow-belt' would be, essentially, a Hindu-nationalist dictatorship?

VikramS · Post by **VikramS** » 26 May 2011 08:36

http://tribune.com.pk/story/176318/navy ... ns-mehran/

Clues leading to a self-goal.
But why?

They also say it was peculiar that Malik came on air at 10:43pm on Sunday, claiming that around 10 to 15 attackers had not only infiltrated the PNS Mehran base, but also taken control.

“The attack began at 10:37pm. How could he claim to know all that when even we at the control room did not know the exact position,” they added. A navy officer admitted it was a mistake on their part for lodging an FIR which said there were more than 10 attackers.

However, doctors who conducted the autopsy on the bodies of the four terrorists contradicted the navy’s asertion and said they looked like “any other young Pakistani men” from northern areas.

I guess Northern Areas used above is more generic and not specific to the POK/NA region.

Joseph · Post by **Joseph** » 26 May 2011 08:42

anupmisra wrote:The cameo act we have all been waiting for. Zaid Mahdi Hamid (pbuh) Latest Verbal Vomit regarding PNS Mehran. If you disregard his high pitch screaming, what he is really advocating is that the pureland is in a state of war and a martial law must be declared.

The military can't even protect the bases that they are stationed on, much less try to implement Martial Law across Pakistan.

Confused Pakjabi soldiers with guns patrolling the streets of Karachi and trying to tell the local citizens what to do would be an interesting experiment.

amit · Post by **amit** » 26 May 2011 08:43

panda wrote: Lieven puts it as if this statement is justified by the previous statement (which, in itself, is a fallacy). I don't see any evidence to justify this. Rather, there are circumstantial evidence pointing to the contrary. Consider this: some of the most well known liberal-democratic minded leaders have been from 'cow-belt', e.g. Rajendra Prasad, Lal Bahadur Shastry etc. When Indira Gandhi imposed emergency, the 'cow-belt' was the most vocal in opposing it. JP, George Fernandez etc. were essentially from this region. So, how does one believe that the 'cow-belt' would be, essentially, a Hindu-nationalist dictatorship?

Panda Lieven is a cho***ya who does probing anal-lysis to please hi Paki friends and hence his desperation to do an equal:equal.

Regarding the cow belt analogy, apart from the points you mention he complete ignores the fact that the reins of power in the belt have long passed almost exclusively to a combination of backward class-muslim entities. How the fuk can there be a upper class Hindu dominated dictatorship in such a mileu where folks like Mayawati, Nitesh Kumar and Mulla Yadav are kingmakers. And mind you all these are second generation backward class leaders.

What Rudradev wrote in the cross post above is I think very right. Sometimes we give these two bit analysts too much importance.

VikramS · Post by **VikramS** » 26 May 2011 08:44

Mupalla:
If you are reading this, that list on twitter perhaps needs to go.

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 26 May 2011 09:27

For your viewing pleasure!

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 26 May 2011 09:27

the rows of jail cell type things could presumably store one weapon each, individually locked and sealed in its own cell to prevent a mass theft or conventional explosive detonation triggering more off.

the buildings already with roofs could be having similar cells and workshops for assembly, repair, self-test and shipping to missile/PAF units.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 26 May 2011 09:31

Arrested helper of militants had warned of PNS Mehran attack

ISLAMABAD: A navy commando of Hakimulah Mehsud’s tribe posted at the PNS Mehran, who was arrested in January this year for his links with the Taliban and al-Qaeda affiliates, had then disclosed about the impending attack on the naval base.

Karna_A · Post by **Karna_A** » 26 May 2011 09:34

Putting things in perspective, Lieven points out that Pakistan is not alone in the region in suffering from armed insurgency: Sri Lanka and Burma have faced rebellions that have lasted far longer; and India has been fighting the Naxalite uprising in vast swathes of its territory for decades. As he writes in the introduction:
“Pakistan is in fact a great deal more like India or India like Pakistan — than either country would wish to admit. If Pakistan were an Indian state, then in terms of development, order and per capita income it would find itself somewhere in the middle, considerably below Karnataka but considerably above Bihar. Or to put it another way, if India were only the `cow-belt` of Hindi-speaking north India, it probably wouldn`t be a democracy or a growing economic power either, but some form of impoverished Hindu-nationalist dictatorship, riven by local conflicts.”

Putting things in perspective, Nobel laureate Animal Doctor Jhatka points out that Lieven is not alone in the Zoo in suffering from Schizophrenia and Bipoal Disorder. Pasha and Basha have faced Posttraumatic stress disorder that have lasted far longer; and Bakis the monkey has been fighting the Paranoid personality disorder in vast swathes of its body for decades.
As he writes in the introduction:
“Lieven is in fact a great deal more like a white faced Langur or Langur like Lieven — than either primate would wish to admit. If Lieven were at Delhi Zoo, then in terms of mental development, and behaviour it would find itself somewhere in the middle, considerably below "BOZO the Chimpanzee" but considerably above "DODO The donkey". Or to put it another way, if Lieven were the buffalo of Hindi-speaking north India, it probably wouldn`t be a worth a dime or not even giving any milk either, but some form of impoverished animal, happy in surviving on gutter food.
Doctor Jhatka rests his case!

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 26 May 2011 09:35

Picture of one of the dead Bad talibunny!

http://ummat.com.(pk)/2011/05/25/images/pic-01.jpg

Remove the () in the domain name

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 26 May 2011 09:51

Interesting revelation on F-solah's by Air Marshal (retd) Shahid Lateef (Defense Analyst)
@1:05 onwards...

He is claiming that the restrictions on the new F-16's by the Amirkhans is pure propaganda and he was an erstwhile F-16 pilot and was also involved in the induction of the new fleet. The ex-fizzleyah also wanted a couple of the birds to be in the air during the OBL raid and the choppers to be brought down by the F-16's inspite of having to lose a couple of their prized fighters in the bargain. When the reporter rolls his eyes at that comment he says "The Quaom should be ready for Qurbaani"

He actually wants the country to be imposed sanctions just like Iran and North Korea....rest all is blah blah blah about the WOT!

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 26 May 2011 09:51

^^The backpack the dead attacker has strapped on looks like a standard issue Paki military rucksack. Combined with the arrest of the SSGN man who belong to Hakimullah Mehsud's tribe, more and more this looks like an inside job by SSG-N kamandus who saw the light.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 26 May 2011 09:57

No cell phone found on naval base attackers

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 26 May 2011 09:59

Apologies if posted before!

US to withdraw troops from Pakistan

The US military has announced the withdrawal of a number of its troops from Pakistan.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13555557

Here's the caveat though

It is not clear if any of the American intelligence and special operations forces that are said to be in Pakistan clandestinely are also being pulled out.

Ya arrah....waiting for Fridin "jumma chumma de de"

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 26 May 2011 10:00

So what did the DNA ethnicity tests determine? uzbeks in SSG-N?

Anishns, What is the guy saying a short summary is nice.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 26 May 2011 10:06

ramana wrote: Anishns, What is the guy saying a short summary is nice.

The PAF guy is saying that: "We should have shot down American helicopters. It is okay to sacrifice 1-2 F-16s in this process. Such sacrifices have to be made for the qaum."

He went on to say that legal conditions don't matter. They can shoot down American planes if they want. (He claims to know about agreements involving F-16 sales.)

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 26 May 2011 10:08

^^^ Thanks Abhishek

Ramana ji, I have edited my post...

abhishek_sharma wrote:
ramana wrote: Anishns, What is the guy saying a short summary is nice.
The PAF guy is saying that: "We should have shot down American helicopters. It is okay to sacrifice 1-2 F-16s in this process. Such sacrifices have to be made for the qaum."

He went on to say that legal conditions don't matter. They can shoot down American planes if they want. (He claims to know about agreements involving F-16 sales.)

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 26 May 2011 10:10

So again the Fizzleya guys are more jihadi then the TSPA types. And PN jihadi guys attack their own bases!

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 26 May 2011 10:13

The Fizzleya guys are just that "Fizzle","bubble" and "hot air"
When brown matter hits the pankha, they will be the first ones hiding in dark corners just as in Kargil....Thandaar or F-Solahs not withstanding

ramana wrote:So again the Fizzleya guys are more jihadi then the TSPA types. And PN jihadi guys attack their own bases!

Sudip · Post by **Sudip** » 26 May 2011 10:16

How one TV reporter tried to reveal the underbelly of the Pakistani media.

Last November, 30 of Pakistan's most influential journalists boarded a plane bound for Saudi Arabia. The occasion was the hajj, the annual pilgrimage to Mecca that Muslims are expected to perform at least once in their lifetimes, if they can afford it. On this trip, however, money wasn't a problem: The Pakistani government picked up the tab.

reporters were accepting gifts from the government hardly qualified as news. Plus, reporters in Pakistan have an unspoken rule, a kind of omerta: You don't write about other reporters.

The trip to Mecca wasn't a reporting trip—some journalists even brought their families—nor was it acknowledged publicly until Jan brought the issue to light.

in 2003, when Gen. Pervez Musharraf, frustrated that Pakistanis were getting much of their news from India, relaxed the ban on cable channels, or "electronic media."

Many Pakistani journalists accept gifts from politicians, presumably in exchange for favorable coverage. Less blatant forms of corruption—caving to threats from militant groups after a suicide attack by replacing the word "died" with "was martyred," for example—are common. In the most egregious cases, "reporters" aren't reporters at all but simply businessmen with press cards who use their access to the press to help friends, punish enemies, and blackmail law enforcement. If you're pulled over by a traffic cop and you have a press card, says Jan, you don't have to pay.

he interrogates a reporter who's asking for ads. "If they don't give you ads, do you publish stories against them?" says Jan. "Well, they do give us ads," says the reporter, "so why should we say anything against them?"

In one episode, Jan examines the 290 million rupee ($3.4 million) "secret fund" set aside by the Information Ministry for journalists. The fund covers everything from buying ads in newspapers to providing medical care for reporters to paying for their daughters' weddings.

awarding of lavish government housing to top-tier Pakistani journalists at cheap rates

well-known anchor Asma Shirazi defends her decision to go on the government-funded hajj by saying she was misled about its funding.

In April, Apna Gareban was shut down after 12 episodes. The final straw was an investigation into the conduct of a reporter at Dawn News, Jan's employer, who was making money on the side by selling goods from a kiosk provided by the government—a clear conflict of interest.

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 26 May 2011 10:32

Another one from Yawn News

It's the same panel and they have mucho takleef on Obama's comments on the safety issues of paapistan's nook arsenal.
After the first couple of minutes....forward to 6:50 onwards...

It seems that there is definitely more antagonism against Amreeka from retired fauji types than the current crop. Poor fauji almost has tears in his eyes whining about how Amreeka backstabbed us(them) after the cold war

Then goes on to claim that he was threatened by the Americans(obviously) that they will suffer if they continued with the JF-17 program

In part 2 Arshad Sharif rips a new one for Ansar Abbasi (Editor Investigations, The News)

Part 3 starts off with the revelation about Obama-Lugar Act to disarm Pakistan. It briefly explains how a similar Act was used to disarm Belarus, Ukraine and Kazakhstan in the 1990s of their nuclear arsenal.

1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YDfcA9c2xM

2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SETd4zY5sPQ

3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbEAbjnI7ic

4.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO35dicTRWE

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 May 2011 11:44

anishns wrote:Picture of one of the dead Bad talibunny!

http://ummat.com.(pk)/2011/05/25/images/pic-01.jpg

Remove the () in the domain name

Upper jaw broken?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 26 May 2011 11:45

abhishek_sharma wrote:
ramana wrote: Anishns, What is the guy saying a short summary is nice.
The PAF guy is saying that: "We should have shot down American helicopters. It is okay to sacrifice 1-2 F-16s in this process. Such sacrifices have to be made for the qaum."

He went on to say that legal conditions don't matter. They can shoot down American planes if they want. (He claims to know about agreements involving F-16 sales.)

That would have been delicious. An American gifted F-16 attacking American soldiers trying to capture/kill the worlds' worst terrorist.

Now that it didn't happen, Americans are beginning to think about replacing the lost P3Cs.

Mehran airbase attack heavy loss for Pak: US:

More funds coming up for Pakistan just so it can sponsor terror in India.

The US ambassador to Pakistan conceded that Pakistan suffered the loss of precious personnel and two exceptionally prized Orion 3 PC multi-role naval planes in the attack on Mehran Base in Karachi Sunday evening due to its frontline role in the war on terror.

The world should acknowledge this role, said Cameron C Munter as quoted in the Pakistanin paper The International News.

From Rediff Updates

Rajiv Lather · Post by **Rajiv Lather** » 26 May 2011 11:55

I must admit, just as the yanks had promised us before we signed the nuclear deal, the stage 3 is well on its way. It seems they are going to go through with it this time.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 26 May 2011 12:07

Mohterma fair is being really punched hard for her article in foreign policy.
Try to see it my way...

I specially like this comment.

MACGUPTA
11:17 PM ET
May 25, 2011

Beware!
@Colinfreeze, who is covering the Rana trial on twitter, tweeted the following:
"Colinfreeze Colin Freeze
ISI drawn to Headley because he was a white-skinned American citizen who spoke Urdu, Punjabi, Hindi, English. #Ranatrial"

Who else do we know that matches this description?

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 26 May 2011 12:11

Taliban: Won't hit Pakistan nuclear arsenal:

In a relief to the world at large, the Taliban said it has no plans to attack Pakistan's nuclear arsenal. Its spokesman declared, that they would however keep up their campaign to avenge Osama bin Laden's death.

The Wall Street Journal reports thata larger assault earlier this week by the Pakistan Taliban on a naval base renewed fears that Pakistan's sizable nuclear arsenal could be vulnerable.

The Taliban's spokesman, Ehsanullah Ehsan, dismissed those concerns Wednesday as America's "excuse" to pressure Pakistan's government into fighting the Taliban, who he portrayed as the country's true protectors.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 26 May 2011 12:26

Unfair keeps jumping from one tangent to another. and she makes claim after claim without substantiating. one single statement, pretend it's true, and move on. and of course she regurgitates the typical claims and ideas of India-haters......so, nothing new. another little parasitical "analyst" trying to live off US's foreign policy establishment...

sum · Post by **sum** » 26 May 2011 12:30

In a relief to the world at large, the Taliban said it has no plans to attack Pakistan's nuclear arsenal

Wah, great relief!! Now, everyone can sleep in peace.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 26 May 2011 13:11

krishnan wrote:
Taliban: Won't hit Pakistan nuclear arsenal:

In a relief to the world at large, the Taliban said it has no plans to attack Pakistan's nuclear arsenal.

These seem to be Rediff's words. From the WSJ's report,

The Taliban, after all, aim to take over Pakistan and its weapons.

I don't know if the Taliban spokesman said these words or it was WSJ's interpretation.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 26 May 2011 13:30

VikramS wrote:
However, doctors who conducted the autopsy on the bodies of the four terrorists contradicted the navy’s asertion and said they looked like “any other young Pakistani men” from northern areas.
I guess Northern Areas used above is more generic and not specific to the POK/NA region.

In Pakistan if you magnify the DNA of dead people enough under a micriscope - you will see Pakistan DNA labelled as

Muslim yes/no
Pakistani yes/no

Terrorist DNA will be labelled as
Muslim no/no
Hindu from Kolkata yes/yes
Chechen yes/yes

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 26 May 2011 13:39

Attacking a military target like Mehran in a declared war is not an act of Terrorism.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 26 May 2011 13:40

I sincerely hope there are more people in higher ups like Air Marshal Shahid Lateef in TPAF/TSPA. The older guy in a safari-suit is the true face of the so called educated,'liberal' Paki ( if there is such a thing!). He starts of his mindless ramblings with quranic quotations, and then thinks 'jeeehardd' is the only way to defeat Americans! And then our good old Air Marshal,the man thinks they should have attacked yanks with their own F-16s in the name of "qurbaniya". I hope more of their serving higher officers in Pindi think on the same lines and decide to take on unkil. Then it is not "qurbani" they are gonna get but "biryani" made out of them!

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 26 May 2011 13:42

Probably they dont want the bombs , they want the whole pakistan