The Jan Lokpal Bill, Anna Hazare, and Baba Ramdev II

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Finally India Today questions secrecy of Sonia Gandhi's health

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/soni ... 53246.html

Sorry for making an OT post and then posting it in full. But such details about madam's health never emerged before!
The news is good. The operation was a success. She is back in India and has begun to defuse the life-threatening crisis within Congress and government at a time when what she really needs is some rest. India doesn't know what exactly ails its most powerful citizen. The one unanswered question, which continues to fuel speculation ranging from the ignorant to the bizarre, is: why did the authorities keep details of Sonia Gandhi's medical condition such a tightly wrapped secret? Some word has begun to trickle down since Sonia has returned. She has confided to a select few Congress leaders that she had first stage cancer, for which she went through a seven-hour-long surgical procedure. "In June, when Congressmen claimed that she had gone abroad to tend to her ailing mother, she had gone for her own treatment," a Congress leader told India Today. "The good news is that the illness is not life-threatening. However, it will be at least six months before she will be able to handle the normal workload," the source said.
India has substituted news with plenty of conjecture. Since August 4, when bbc and Agence France-Presse broke the news of Sonia Gandhi's surgery, Delhi's politically connected physicians have been in demand. Some have been toeing the Congress line that it's a private matter, some reprimanding nosy reporters, some citing the Hippocratic Oath while most are denying any knowledge. Various theories have been doing the rounds in a season of enforced silence-that it could be gastrointestinal or gynaecological cancer.
At the centre of all this is the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York, US, where Sonia reportedly had her surgery. According to some doctors, speaking in strict confidentiality, the seven-hour-long surgery indicates a rare and difficult cancer. They said the 64-year-old Congress president was initially diagnosed with an "unspecified mass" in her pancreas. The tests indicated the probability of the rare neuroendocrine tumour of the pancreas (pNET). The more common pancreatic cancers, adenocarcinoma, are virulent and have a survival rate of about two per cent. But pNET is more slow-spreading and treatable. "The long ot time could be because pNET is so rare. It affects less than one person in 100,000 in the US," the doctors told India Today.
The operation could have taken long, says a doctor who refuses to be identified, because, post-operation, the biopsy revealed that it wasn't probably a cancer at all. "It was most likely an unusual disorder, pancreatic tuberculosis, which very often mimics pNET," he said. The symptoms for pancreatic tb and cancer can be surprisingly similar, making diagnosis virtually impossible: from fever and fatigue to weight loss to upper abdominal pain radiating to the back.
Radiological imaging techniques, ultrasonography, CT scan and other tests usually fail to make a clear distinction. "It's a very lucky and extremely rare misdiagnosis but not totally unheard of," says the doctor. At the world's top cancer facility, a patient with an unspecified mass can get a biopsy, an ultrasound for size and surgical procedure, all in a day. The doctors took time to detect it correctly and put Sonia on heavy-duty anti-tb therapy (reportedly for the next six months). "She should be fine after that," he says.
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Beyond pNET and pancreatic tuberculosis is another theory. It stems from her physician of choice in the US. Internationally-known cancer specialist, Dr Dattatreyudu Nori, is professor and executive vice chair of radiation oncology at the New York-Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical College in New York City hospital. Nori is an acclaimed expert in women's cancer. He has been named as one of the top doctors in the US for the treatment of women by one of the most popular women's magazines, The Ladies Home Journal. Nori was on vacation in Iceland at that time, but was apparently called back urgently and returned to New York to coordinate the entire procedure for Sonia. Nori has neither confirmed nor denied that he was treating her.
There is no final official word on the Congress President's health but what can be confirmed is that the Congress party seems to have become suicidal. The most obvious manifestation of it is the sight of a hapless prime minister reduced to a bystander while the turf war between two of his senior Cabinet colleagues, Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee and Home Minister P. Chidambaram, takes a heavy toll on governance.

Sonia Gandhi post surgery

Sonia remains the absolute authority where all arguments stop. The PM has fallen from grace, while Rahul has failed to rise to the occasion. According to a party official who met Sonia recently, "she is not happy with the handling of the 2G letter conflict by the prime minister." He was referring to a March 25, 2011, note written by the finance ministry to the PMO which stated that Chidambaram could have prevented the 2G scam by insisting on an auction.
Mukherjee is blaming the PMO for giving such a detailed response to an otherwise general RTI inquiry, as well as for demanding such a note in the first place. In a four-page letter written to the Prime Minister, he has said that it was at the behest of the then Cabinet Secretary K.M. Chandrasekhar that such a note was prepared. According to finance ministry sources, the letter states "the finance ministry sent a 12-paragraph note apprising the cabinet secretary of the facts but this was sent back with paragraphs added." Whether he wanted it or not, the Prime Minster has become party to the deepening crisis.
Though Mukherjee rushed to New York on September 25 to meet Manmohan, who was attending the UN General Assembly, and Chidambaram had been in touch with the Prime Minister on the phone, Sonia still had to step in for damage control. On her return home on September 8 from the medical treatment in the US, there was hardly any political news to cheer her up. She has questioned her colleagues about the fallout of the Anna Hazare fiasco. Saddled with a Prime Minister who lacks political authority and a son whose disinterest is only matched by his diffidence, an ailing Sonia does not have the luxury of a quiet recuperation.
There has been speculation ever since she left for treatment that she would appoint Rahul as Congress working president. That has not happened. The main reason for this is Rahul himself. He is not sure of himself, and now it looks like even the party is coming to terms with the reality of a reluctant prince. Soon after the 2G letter crisis broke, Rahul flew to Srinagar where, for two days, he dabbled in Youth Congress matters and breakfasted with his pal, Chief Minister Omar Abdullah. Just as he refused to play an active role during the Anna Hazare agitation he has gone out of his way to distance himself from this crisis too.
The four-member core group that Sonia had appointed to run the party when she left for her treatment on August 4 has already been disbanded. It held no structured meetings during the 36 days she was away. This was again an indication of Rahul's reluctance to take charge. When the Hazare agitation was at its peak in August, Rahul led a delegation of MPs to the Prime Minister to talk about the land acquisition bill. Impatient with his disconnect, the MPs surrounded him at 7 Race Course Road after the meeting with Manmohan and pleaded with him to step in. They complained about the Government's mishandling of the Hazare campaign. Though Rahul spoke in Parliament the next day, he did not offer any resolution or display leadership.
What aggravates Sonia's agony is the fact that, set against an heir apparent who is a permanent work in progress is a prime minister who has lost his elan. When Manmohan complained that the Opposition was trying to destabilise his government, Janata Party leader Subramanian Swamy asked, "Does he mean opposition within or outside the Congress?"

The dominant feeling within the Cabinet is that there is a growing need for a political Prime Minister. "All the crises have been political, not economic. We don't need an economist, we need a politician," says a Congress Cabinet minister. There are also few takers for Manmohan's economic policies. "The two arms of the Prime Minister are the pmo and the Planning Commission. Both are out of sync with the party," says the Cabinet minister.

He rattles off a list of Congress Cabinet ministers-Kamal Nath, Jairam Ramesh and M. Veerappa Moily-who are upset with Planning Commission chief Montek Singh Ahluwalia. "To solve the problems of the rural poor, the Planning Commission has hired a team of the urban rich," adds a party general secretary. "Once Pulok Chatterji joins the PMO, then the party will have its man in place there. Right now, there is no connect between the party and the Prime Minister's Office," he said. Added to this leadership vacuum is the mystery about Sonia's illness.

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Since the party has not yet been officially briefed about it, the field has been left open to conspiracy theorists. "Even public personalities are entitled to privacy in so far as their personal life is concerned," says Congress spokesperson Manish Tewari. Sonia has never functioned as a 'visible' leader; yet never was the need for her party to get a glimpse of its president greater.
Her spin doctors organised a well-choreographed meeting of the Central Election Committee on September 15, ostensibly to discuss candidates for the Uttar Pradesh Assembly polls. It provided an ideal showcase of a leader in control. When the Prime Minister drove up to 10 Janpath, she was at the door to receive him and see him off. "She looked at the candidate list and her immediate reaction was why there were so few Congressmen on it," said a senior Congress leader, pointing out that most of the candidates were former bsp and sp politicians. "Rahul then said he would talk to the Youth Congress to suggest some names," added the Congress leader. What he didn't voice was the relief that his party president seemed 'okay'. Later, Congress General Secretary Janardhan Dwivedi told the media that "she looked normal... but it will take her a little time to fully recover".


Until the Pranab vs Chidambaram letter bomb landed in her in-tray, Sonia was content with routine party work such as nominating pcc teams for Goa and Maharashtra and taking a decision on whether the Congress should go it alone in the Tamil Nadu local elections. She has also begun meeting Cabinet ministers and party officials, managing four-five meetings daily.
"She is watching a lot more television than she does normally and is worried about party turf wars," says a Congress leader. Considering the malady afflicting the Government, it could be a long while before the Congress president sees something she likes on TV.l
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Anna Hazare on Tuesday put Congress on notice on the Lokpal issue, saying he will campaign against it in election-bound states if the Centre fails to get his version of the anti-corruption bill passed in Parliament's Winter Session.

To begin with, Hazare said, he will appeal to voters in Hisar Lok Sabha constituency in Haryana where bypolls are scheduled on October 13 not to vote for the Congress candidate as the party was "deliberately" not bringing the Jan Lokpal bill.

"If the Jan Lokpal Bill is not passed in the Winter Session, then I will name the Congress and ask people not to vote for it in the Assembly polls scheduled in five states next year," he said addressing a press conference in his native village, 50 km from Pune.

He announced that he would begin his tour of five election-bound states of Uttar Pradesh, Uttarakhand, Punjab, Goa and Manipur between October 13 and 15.


Hazare, who had withdrawn his 12-day hunger strike in Ramlila Maidan following assurances from the Centre that three of his main demands would be considered, made it clear that his agitation would be intensified across the country in the coming months.

He said he will undertake a fast in Lucknow three days before election commences in Uttar Pradesh if the Centre does not pass the Jan Lokpal Bill in Winter Session of Parliament.

Hazare came out in support of arrested Gujarat police officer Sanjiv Bhatt who has accused Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi of complicity in the 2002 communal riots.

"What Narendra Modi has done is wrong. It is not good for democracy in the country," Hazare said, castigating the move to arrest Bhatt.


What was the need for the state government to interfere and arrest Bhatt when the Supreme Court was fully aware of the matter, Hazare asked at a press conference here. He was referring to Bhatt's affidavit in the Supreme Court alleging that the 2002 riots took place with Modi's tacit approval.
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Another UP minister has been indicted by the Lokayukta for corruption. The inquiry conducted by UP Lokayukta NK Mehrotra on a complaint found that secondary education minister Rangnath Mishra had assets disproportionate to his known source of income.

The Lokayukta in his report sent to chief minister Mayawati has stated that the charges of grabbing Gram Sabha land for personal use apart from the misuse of minister's office had been found to be prima facie true.

The state ombudsman has recommended a full fledged probe against the minister. He has also recommended that the minister be removed from the cabinet so that a free and fair inquiry could be held against him. He said that Mishra could use his clout as a minister to scuttle the probe.

Mehrotra also said that he gave adequate time to the minister to answer the charge sheet issued to him by the Lokayukta office based on the complaint. However, he said, Mishra had failed to give a satisfactory reply.

Mishra is the third minister in the Mayawati government to have been indicted for corruption. Earlier, minister of religious affairs Rajesh Tripathi and dairy development minister Awadhpal Singh Yadav were sacked by Mayawati after they were indicted for corruption by the Lokayuta.

Other ministers against whom inquiries are pending at present with the Lokayukta, on account of corruption charges are: Narayana Singh, Badshah Singh and Saurabh Pandey.
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As Anna Hazare threatened to campaign against Congress on the Lokpal issue, Union law minister Salman Khurshid on Tuesday said the government will bring the anti-corruption bill in Parliament's Winter Session.

Reacting to Hazare's plan to campaign against Congress for the coming assembly elections, Khurshid said he was not going to comment on anybody's views about what should happen in the next election.

"It is their decision. Every citizen is free to vote for anybody. Congress will only do its work, perform its duties and Congress will then go back to people when the duty is performed.

"Let the people judge. We have said that in the next session we are bringing not just this one bill (Lokpal) but many other bills as well," he said.
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The battle for Budelkhand is set to hot up with anti-corruption crusader Anna Hazare throwing his weight behind the Bundelkhand Congress, an outfit launched by actor-turned-political activist Raja Bundela two months ago. On Bundela's invitation, Anna is expected to address three public meetings in the region in December, apart from scanning and choosing suitable candidates for the party.

With migration rate of 63% and 590 reported cases of suicides, Bundlekhand has witnessed a fierce turf war between the BSP and Congress over the past four years. SP is also hoping to make inroads in the region.

Bundela hopes to highlight graft, affecting various packages and projects including the MNREGS, and make a dent in the divided vote bank. Bundela had parted ways with the Congress a year ago. Having spearheaded a campaign for separate Bundelkhand, he now adds separate Purvanchal, Vidarbha and Telengana to his wish list.

"We have decided to go region-specific and to micro levels," he said. "We don't have muscle or money power but we do have sincerity of purpose which counts after Anna's advent on the scene."
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CAG’s latest ambition: Let us audit the Padma Awards now

The home ministry has declined a request from the Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) for documents and other material to enable it to carry out an audit of the Padma Awards. The ministry’s decision has the backing of India’s highest law officer, and the file has been cleared by Home Minister P Chidambaram, it is learnt.

In a communication to the Home Ministry on April 19, the Director General of Audit (Central Expenditure) sought documents and official records pertaining to the Awards.

CAG wanted, among other documents, a copy of the rules and regulations of the Awards, agenda notes and minutes of meetings of the Padma Awards Committee for the last six years, details of members of the committee for the last six years, and records relating to investigations carried out before the Awards were finally approved.

CAG also asked for a brief note on the procedure for selection of the candidates for the Awards, minutes of review meetings in the last 10 years to revise the criteria for the Awards, year-by-year details of recommendations received by the ministry in the last three years, and complaints about the Awards in the last three years.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/cags- ... ow/855414/
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IndraD wrote:Finally India Today questions secrecy of Sonia Gandhi's health

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/soni ... 53246.html

Sorry for making an OT post and then posting it in full. But such details about madam's health never emerged before!
The news is good. The operation was a success. She is back in India and has begun to defuse the life-threatening crisis within Congress and government at a time when what she really needs is some rest. India doesn't know what exactly ails its most powerful citizen. The one unanswered question, which continues to fuel speculation ranging from the ignorant to the bizarre, is: why did the authorities keep details of Sonia Gandhi's medical condition such a tightly wrapped secret? Some word has begun to trickle down since Sonia has returned. She has confided to a select few Congress leaders that she had first stage cancer, for which she went through a seven-hour-long surgical procedure. "In June, when Congressmen claimed that she had gone abroad to tend to her ailing mother, she had gone for her own treatment," a Congress leader told India Today. "The good news is that the illness is not life-threatening. However, it will be at least six months before she will be able to handle the normal workload," the source said.
India has substituted news with plenty of conjecture. Since August 4, when bbc and Agence France-Presse broke the news of Sonia Gandhi's surgery, Delhi's politically connected physicians have been in demand. Some have been toeing the Congress line that it's a private matter, some reprimanding nosy reporters, some citing the Hippocratic Oath while most are denying any knowledge. Various theories have been doing the rounds in a season of enforced silence-that it could be gastrointestinal or gynaecological cancer.
At the centre of all this is the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York, US, where Sonia reportedly had her surgery. According to some doctors, speaking in strict confidentiality, the seven-hour-long surgery indicates a rare and difficult cancer. They said the 64-year-old Congress president was initially diagnosed with an "unspecified mass" in her pancreas. The tests indicated the probability of the rare neuroendocrine tumour of the pancreas (pNET). The more common pancreatic cancers, adenocarcinoma, are virulent and have a survival rate of about two per cent. But pNET is more slow-spreading and treatable. "The long ot time could be because pNET is so rare. It affects less than one person in 100,000 in the US," the doctors told India Today.
The operation could have taken long, says a doctor who refuses to be identified, because, post-operation, the biopsy revealed that it wasn't probably a cancer at all. "It was most likely an unusual disorder, pancreatic tuberculosis, which very often mimics pNET," he said. The symptoms for pancreatic tb and cancer can be surprisingly similar, making diagnosis virtually impossible: from fever and fatigue to weight loss to upper abdominal pain radiating to the back.
Radiological imaging techniques, ultrasonography, CT scan and other tests usually fail to make a clear distinction. "It's a very lucky and extremely rare misdiagnosis but not totally unheard of," says the doctor. At the world's top cancer facility, a patient with an unspecified mass can get a biopsy, an ultrasound for size and surgical procedure, all in a day. The doctors took time to detect it correctly and put Sonia on heavy-duty anti-tb therapy (reportedly for the next six months). "She should be fine after that," he says.
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These guys are so full of it. This is a person who spends almost half the year in various spots in Europe, Dubai etc doing god knows what. This is a completely untrustworthy thug who has wrecked the leadership pool in the country through corruption of institutions.
Now they have come up with a plausible theory so they are spinning it. I don't believe them.
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Sushupti wrote:
CAG’s latest ambition: Let us audit the Padma Awards now

The home ministry has declined a request from the Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) for documents and other material to enable it to carry out an audit of the Padma Awards. The ministry’s decision has the backing of India’s highest law officer, and the file has been cleared by Home Minister P Chidambaram, it is learnt.

In a communication to the Home Ministry on April 19, the Director General of Audit (Central Expenditure) sought documents and official records pertaining to the Awards.

CAG wanted, among other documents, a copy of the rules and regulations of the Awards, agenda notes and minutes of meetings of the Padma Awards Committee for the last six years, details of members of the committee for the last six years, and records relating to investigations carried out before the Awards were finally approved.

CAG also asked for a brief note on the procedure for selection of the candidates for the Awards, minutes of review meetings in the last 10 years to revise the criteria for the Awards, year-by-year details of recommendations received by the ministry in the last three years, and complaints about the Awards in the last three years.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/cags- ... ow/855414/
Why why no transperncy on how certain journalists got the awards? eh
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That will come too. What the request from CAG and denial by MHA means there is a lot of black lentils in the awards.
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Aditya_V wrote:Why why no transperncy on how certain journalists got the awards? eh
If Rajiv Gandhi, with anti-Sikh congress riots along with black money in swiss banks, can be a Bharat-Ratna after 5 years in politics from being a pilot, this is a consequence onlee. Journalists can also avoid saying such things if kept in good humor. Even if caught on tape.
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RSS was part of Anna stir: Bhagwat

Lets watch for fire works to begin.
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ramana wrote:That will come too. What the request from CAG and denial by MHA means there is a lot of black lentils in the awards.
Not to derail this thread. But Padma awards have become a joke, and looks like any one can get it. I am reminded of a recent Malayalam Movie "Praanchiyettan & the Saint". The movie quite neatly shows how Padma awards can be bought (even though the movie hero loses his money). Elephant lover & drummer artist in Malayalam cinema have got a Padma award :P.

BTW, I am getting a feeling that Anna Hazare is becoming a loose cannon. The media is also blaring out on his activities, and finally I feel this would do him in. He would soon become a case of "more words..than acton". The media can also make sure that he becomes one.
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The gloves come off in Hisar...

Anna Hazare on Friday launched his campaign against Congress in the Hisar Lok Saba by-election by asking people not to vote for the party because it has failed to bring the Jan Lokpal Bill.

Carrying out his threat issued three days ago, Hazare issued an appeal to the electorate through a CD saying Congress should be defeated.

"We have appealed to people in this polls. Congress should be defeated as it has failed to bring Jan lokpal Bill," he said in the ten-minute CD named 'The Government of the Corrupt'.

According to the schedule provided by 'India Against Corruption', which is spearheading the movement, Hazare is not going to Hisar to campaign against Congress.

Activists Arvind Kejriwal, Manish Sisodia, Gopal Rai and Naveen Jaihind will leave for Hissar tomorrow and would be there till October ten, when the campaign for the election ends. Another activist Kiran Bedi would visit Hissar on October 10.

Prominent Team Anna member Prashant Bhushan, however, does not figure in the list.
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Sachin wrote:
ramana wrote:That will come too. What the request from CAG and denial by MHA means there is a lot of black lentils in the awards.
Not to derail this thread. But Padma awards have become a joke, and looks like any one can get it. I am reminded of a recent Malayalam Movie "Praanchiyettan & the Saint". The movie quite neatly shows how Padma awards can be bought (even though the movie hero loses his money). Elephant lover & drummer artist in Malayalam cinema have got a Padma award :P.

BTW, I am getting a feeling that Anna Hazare is becoming a loose cannon. The media is also blaring out on his activities, and finally I feel this would do him in. He would soon become a case of "more words..than acton". The media can also make sure that he becomes one.
There was an article in some telugu website a while ago....

IT department thinks twice/thrice to raid a padma awardee as it would bring bad name to the national award system. Nowadays prominent non-politicians are behind these awards to get that extra layer of protection...
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Team Anna rips into Congress in Hisar...
Launching a direct attack on the Congress ahead of the Hisar Lok Sabha by-poll, Right to Information (RTI) activist and Team Anna member, Arvind Kejriwal Saturday called upon voters to hand down a "historic defeat" to the party.

"This is your moment in India's political history. Hisar is just not another by-election. The country is looking at you. If you give a historic defeat to the Congress, it will be Anna Hazare's victory. Don't poll even a single vote to the Congress. Teach them a lesson for shielding corruption," Kejriwal told a gathering at Narnaund town in the constituency.

"The Congress is synonymous with corruption in this country. That is why it needs to be defeated," he said.

Kejriwal sought support from the people of Hisar to vote against the Congress and others who indulged in corruption.

"The government is afraid that half of its ministers will land up in jail if the Jan Lokpal bill, prepared by Anna Hazare and his team, becomes a law."

"The Congress party does not want to send corrupt people to jail. It does not want to take any action against them either. That is why they are opposed to the Jan Lokpal bill," he told the gathering.

People in the gathering shouted slogans of support for Kejriwal and Team Anna as he listed various issues against corruption before them.

He even suggested to the Congress candidate, three-time former MP Jai Prakash, to withdraw from the contest. "You will become a hero by doing this."

Hazare's associate Manish Sisodia, who accompanied Kejriwal, admitted that the anti-corruption campaign of Team Anna had political links.

"Yes, we have taken up the cudgels to defeat the Congress in elections. That is the only political link we have," he said.

However, Kejriwal told reporters that Anna Hazare's campaign against corruption was his own and not associated with any party or organisation.

He said that the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh (RSS) could not take credit for Anna's anti-corruption campaign in recent months.

"Let the RSS take credit for the riots in Gujarat and the corruption by the BJP leadership in Karnataka. We have nothing to do with this," he said.

Armed with a recorded message of the social activist, members of Team Anna Saturday began their anti-corruption and anti-Congress campaign from here ahead of the upcoming Lok Sabha bypoll.

The by-election to the Hisar seat, to be held Oct 13, was necessitated after former chief minister and sitting MP Bhajan Lal's death in June.

Hazare himself is not scheduled to come here for the campaign though his recorded message will be played for the people in the next 2-3 days, activists of the anti-corruption forum here said.

In his video message, Hazare has called upon voters not to vote for the Congress as the party was opposed to bringing about an effective Lokpal bill.

"I want the youth and others to carry the CDs containing Anna's message to every village and corner of the Hisar seat. People should not vote for the Congress," he said.

Former police officer Kiran Bedi and lawyer Prashant Bhushan are likely to visit here in the next couple of days.

The contest for this seat is tough for the three main players -- Kuldeep Bishnoi of the Haryana Janhit Congress (HJC) who is son of the late Bhajan Lal, Indian National Lok Dal's (INLD) Ajay Chautala who is son of former chief minister Om Prakash Chautala, and three-time former MP Jai Prakash of the Congress.

Stakes are high for all three parties and their candidates. Hisar was the only seat the Congress could not win out of the state's 10 Lok Sabha seats in the 2009 general elections.
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"Let the RSS take credit for the riots in Gujarat and the corruption by the BJP leadership in Karnataka. We have nothing to do with this," he said.
Well, that is the end of it.. I am no longer following this douche...
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give him a break, a decade of 24x7 brainwashing by media can do that to a man.
We don't have perfect tools or perfect people. In most cases it is important to select the lesser of the two evils.
For example, I detest Mamta but she is better than the commies.
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Mr Cage-riwal is more intent in showing his potency to Kangress, and building his brand equity with "equal to" BJP/RSS bashing .. my 25 paise is another crowd of "false ceiling do good-ers" for whom status quo has more to offer for their survival rather than any alternative that does not fit their idealistic world view of India. Having watched his rantings in Ramlila - was left wondering how can democracy trust such unbridled sense of "I know better than everyone else " ?
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The Anna movement has all the hallmarks of Secular-Progressive-People's government. For all the INC bashing, it is targeting the Yuppie middle class constituency which usually votes INC or BJP, but with INCs corruption scars, this movement can be used by INC to transfer Anti-Incumbency vote away from BJP.

Irrespective of the intentions of TA, their words and media's deeds (by giving high profile coverage), point towards repeating MNS-taknik at national level.
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this movement can be used by INC to transfer Anti-Incumbency vote away from BJP.
I dont exactly understand this.. pls elaborate..
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 290447.cms

The Congress retort to Team Anna's posture in the Hisar poll...
Senior Congress leader Digvijay Singh says Anna Hazare is a mask of all anti-Congress parties and BJP intends to put up the social activist as its presidential candidate.

"The BJP intends to put up Hazare as the presidential candidate of all anti-Congress parties," the Congress general secretary told reporters here on Saturday evening.

Hazare is appealing to voters to defeat Congress in the Hisar Lok Sabha bypoll despite knowing fully the credentials of candidates of other parties, he said.

"Anna Hazare is a mask of all anti-Congress parties," said the Congress leader who was here to attend a national convention of the All-India Kshtriya Federation.

Digvijay said instead of launching an agitation against chief minister Mayawati and SP chief Mulayam Singh Yadav for amassing wealth disproprortionate to their known sources of income, Hazare had planned a three-day fast for defeating the Congress in next year's Uttar Pradesh assembly election.

He said "Team Anna members are all anti-Congress in the their thinking."
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http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?737652
Team Anna member Arvind Kejriwal has said that Anna Hazare is above Parliament and he has the right to do so as a citizen.

"Of course, he is putting himself above (Parliament). Every citizen is above Parliament. Let me caution you, every citizen is above Parliament. The citizen has every right to tell the Parliament has not done the job.

"Citizens are more important than Parliament. It is in the Constitution. Anna Hazare and every citizen is supreme. I think the Constitution says so," Kejriwal told Karan Thapar in Devil's Advocate programme in CNN-IBN.

He was responding to questions how one can justify threats of fast to get a bill passed in Parliament and whether Hazare was putting himself above Parliament.

Kejriwal justified the decision to campaign against Congress in the Hisar by-elections, saying it was the ruling party's duty to ensure the passage of the Jan Lokpal Bill. He also said Hazare meant the whole UPA when he said he will campaign against Congress.

Attempting to blunt the criticism against the movement for taking an anti-Congress plank, he said that it may campaign against BJP in the Uttar Pradesh Assembly polls if it does not fulfil its promise of supporting the Jan Lokpal Bill.

"If any party goes back from the promise, in the UP elections, we may go and campaign against BJP," he said when asked whether Team Anna would campaign against BJP in the UP Assembly polls if it did not honour the letter of support given to them by party chief Nitin Gadkari.
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Vashishtha wrote:
this movement can be used by INC to transfer Anti-Incumbency vote away from BJP.
I dont exactly understand this.. pls elaborate..
Let me attempt at explaining this based on multiple conversations with the Yuppie cream representing or sympathetic to TA .

1) BJP at the center is as corrupt as Congress under MMS
- Whenever I asked for specifics , the usual Tehelka , Coffin etc were listed.. and when the holes on those arguments are exposed they immediately jumped to talk of RTI etc .. as accomplishments
- I have constantly found resistance to proof that NDa attempted to undo some systemic inertia from 1947 (like shifting the time to present the Budget from 6:00 PM set by the British to Synch with House of Commons to Noon IST by NDA , Golden Quad & speed at which it was executed ..) with a "why then did they loose in 2004 ".
- Irony of RTI as per some journalistic friends (cannot validate or repudiate) is in 2004 , INC was convinced RTI can be used to dis-credit BJPs corruption and misuse. They found many clerical misconduct and abuse and very little substance to tar the big fish . Ironical they want to limit RTi as it has come back to bit their abuse of the system - any illumination on this would be greatly appreciated

2) BJP really does represent a shift away from "AS-IS" at many levels , in spite of their bumbling along the way - makes the PS folks in TA very wary of that shift. Why would i care to think a bunch of Magsaysay award winners (for the jan lokpal panel) are any better than Parimala my domestic help, who is honest, alert and open to ideas & information. I find my conversations with her more realistic than this "one Bill" to save us all rhetoric

3) 3rd Front is a good interim excuse TA would like to target as it can be easily arm twisted for its immediate needs - Hence the hurry to ensure the vote moved from INC does not reach BJp/NDA but is held in an interim account until the politics of convenience replaces this politics of passion (which the middle class so readily accepts - lets not think but vent)
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I think Team Anna is taking the middle class vote away from the BJP
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@Somaz, thanks for elaborating the point. The vituperative words are reserved only for a section of the polity (BJP et al). Mr. Kejriwal is on record to say his ideology is Left of Center.
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Mahendra wrote:I think Team Anna is taking the middle class vote away from the BJP
My 2 paise:
This movement could be misused by congress, which itself is sinking in corruption, to make BJP/3rd-front look like fringe players.

The Congress has been very aggressive on it right from the moment Swami Ramdeva landed at Delhi. How much footage did BJP/3rd-front could focus on themselves during the entire movement? Why did BJP wait till the end instead of joining the whole movement right from the start? In the end instead of ruling party v/s Society the projected image was Govt v/s Anna Hazare, giving all the blame on the average Govt. (Govt. includes the whole parliament) and taking as much credit & footage for congress as possible. In the end the opposition could not even force a vote - that could have clarified who opposed it, and a sense of house was considered with congress as the ruling party.

Coming elections, the fight could be made to look like Congress v/s the anti-corruption movement, with Congress scoring points and projected well at crucial times. What better way to introduce the clean raajaputra, raajaputri & raaja-jamaaee?

The opposition & other parties should have been much more aggressive than Congress on this issue but perhaps have taken a lot of things for granted.
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http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?737746
Team Anna member Santosh Hegde today disapproved Hazare's anti-Congress stance in the Hisar bypolls, saying campaigning against a political party is not correct.

Speaking to PTI here, the former Supreme Court judge said every political party has "good and honest people" and targeting an outfit as a whole is not correct. He said he is opposed to such an idea (campaigning against a party).

"The (use of) word Congress is wrong according to me. But to campaign against a corrupt person or group of persons (is fine) -- not a party....Certainly not a party...Because every party has good people..Honest people," the former Karnataka Lokayukta said.

Hazare has appealed to the electorate in Hisar not to vote for Congress and other parties who have not given letters assuring their support to Jan Lokpal Bill.

Hegde also expressed the view that Team Anna jumping into the electioneering scene in Hisar would not ipso facto undermine the credibility of the anti-graft movement of Hazare whose agitation has brought the corruption issue to centrestage.

"I think it would have been better if they had not mentioned a political party's name," said Hegde, whose report on illegal mining cost B S Yeddyurappa his chief ministerial chair in July.

On Team Anna member Arvind Kejriwal's statement that Congress is playing politics and trying to crush the movement, Hegde said he would not name any political party.
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Santosh Hegde is just another old fogey in his mode of thinking, and it would be good for Team Anna if he quit a-la Agnivesh.

Irrespective of the actual validity of their demand - what is undeniable is that Team Anna's execution has been brilliant throughout and the pattern continues with the Hisar campaign. India has not seen any protest movement leveraging valid constitutional means - executed in as outstanding a manner as done by AH.

As somebody mentioned a few posts back, the outwardly 'leftist' inclination of Team Anna is certainly cause for concern - but on-balance it looks like the biggest loser in this game will be the current ruling dispensation.
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gulfnews

World | India

Rahul may become next prime minister

New Delhi: The Congress party general secretary Rahul Gandhi may become the new prime minister of India early next year.

Sources in the Congress party say that there is a strong possibility of Rahul being promoted as the new prime minister before the crucial legislative assembly election in Uttar Pradesh and half a dozen other states.

There is growing feeling within the party that a change of guard at the top alone can change the sliding fortunes of the party and the federal government which is seen as drifting due to controversies dogging it.

Goa, Gujarat, Himachal Pradesh, Punjab, Uttarakhand and Manipur are slated to go to polls early next year. There are indications that the autonomous election commission may use its authority to advance Uttar Pradesh elections, due in normal course in July-August, by a few months and club it with those in other states.

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Besides for administrative reasons, the Election Commission wants to avoid electioneering in India's most populated state during the heat and rain of July-August. Election Commission is entitled by rules to advance elections in any state by up to six months.

"As of now, we cannot be assured of winning in any other state except Punjab and Manipur, and probably Goa. With Rahul at the helm, things will improve drastically," said a senior central office bearer of the Congress party.

Since both Rahul, and his mother Sonia Gandhi who is the Congress party president, represent Uttar Pradesh in the Lok Sabha, the maximum impact of Rahul taking over as the new prime minister will be felt in Uttar Pradesh.

Incumbent prime minister Manmohan Singh is seen in the party circles as faltering as the government keep landing up from one controversy to the other.

The party has to look for someone else to be projected as the prime ministerial candidate since Singh would be 82 by the time the next general elections get due in 2014.

Credentials

Rahul's elevation early next year, sources in the party say, will give him ample time to establish his credentials and lead the party in 2014 general elections.

The change of guard, it is pointed out, will also help the party infuse a new sense of enthusiasm among the party workers and activists.

It is also seen as the only way the Congress party can hope to win Uttar Pradesh after a gap of 22 years.

If and when appointed, Rahul Gandhi would become the fourth prime minister from the elite Gandhi-Nehru family after Jawaharlal Nehru, Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi.

Sonia Gandhi had declined to become prime minister after having been invited to form the government in 2004 and instead proposed Manmohan Singh for the post.
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I hope Rahul takes over, MMS being the prime Minister is a mockery. Everbody knows he is just a figurehead and where the decesions are made.

This will mean more transparent Rule.

My prediction, expect a 90,000 crore farm loan write off and huge disbursements to Minority welfare as soon as Yuvraj takes over. The government is saving the best. While Oil has fallen in world markets the Governments is till keeping the prices high which is unpopular- why? The are accumulating funds for some big spends to get the voters to reelect them in 2014.
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so the process of starting a political party by AH is exactly right on plan, to divide the anti-congress vote - the strategy first perfected in hyderabad through LokSatta.

Next step, all these LokSatta types will form a common coalition under AH.
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Tapes on Govt and Team Anna negotiations are leaked.... (listen to Pranab Da) there are 9 tapes leaked.

http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/191817/lok ... doors.html
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Sri wrote:Tapes on Govt and Team Anna negotiations are leaked.... (listen to Pranab Da) there are 9 tapes leaked.

http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/191817/lok ... doors.html
TImesNow said this was procured through RTI and not leaked- hence edited by the UPA Spin Doctors specially for the Hisar tangle.
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Sources in the Congress party say that there is a strong possibility of Rahul being promoted as the new prime minister before the crucial legislative assembly election in Uttar Pradesh and half a dozen other states.

There is growing feeling within the party that a change of guard at the top alone can change the sliding fortunes of the party and the federal government which is seen as drifting due to controversies dogging it.
The best way to ensure Congress fortunes and Rahul baba's own ones for a continued reign is for Rahul baba to get married to Mayawati.

Think of it for a moment, it will be an unbeatable combination: BJP et others will have to forget UP and return to power at the center for all practical purposes.
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Vashishtha wrote:
"Let the RSS take credit for the riots in Gujarat and the corruption by the BJP leadership in Karnataka. We have nothing to do with this," he said.
Well, that is the end of it.. I am no longer following this douche...
I did this long time ago. For me it looks like these guys have some vested interest. I can still give Anna benefit of doubt. But his team definitely has something evil in their brain.
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They want to attract the secular minds which are now disillusioned with INC's loot.
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RG taking over and SG fading out is the best bet for long term fragmentation of INC. he has neither the charisma or the mystique needed to glue together the psychophants and warlords and keep them guessing.

however LKA being at the tip of spear for BJP is also a guarantee that RG will rise to power.

its a delicate karmic balance of planets...one tip of the balance might set in motion events leading to unforseen end states.
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^ unless Sri Yama Rao does his duty in time...
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RG is getting what is called OJT (On Job Training). He will be PM alright. And I believe he will be a better bet then our current Chief Executive. At least his word will carry some weight.
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