Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 22, 2011

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Pakistan should try to be part of Indo-Afghan Pact: German envoy
Pakistan should have strived for becoming part of the recently concluded strategic agreement between Afghanistan and India to make the agreement more comprehensive for lasting peace in the region, said German Parliamentary State Secretary Gudrun Kopp on Thursday.
Responding to a query about lackluster response to flood-hit areas of Sindh by the international community, Kopp said how could the world react to a calamity in a country like Pakistan where tax ratio stands at ridiculous 8.9 percent of the GDP. :)
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 22, 20

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Vigilantism on the rise in Pakistan
As protests continue in support of the assassin of Punjab Governor Salman Taseer, masked men entered a girls' school in Rawalpindi on Friday....

In a related incident, pamphlets against the film Bol were distributed......

The use of blasphemy laws against not only minority communities but also the dominant sect has increased in recent months. A case that hit the headlines pertained to a school girl getting expelled for spelling a word relating to the Prophet incorrectly.

Meanwhile, in Quetta — which has seen a spate of target killings of Hazara Shias — transporters have apparently refused to ferry members of the minority community. On September 20 and again last Wednesday, armed assailants attacked buses ferrying Hazara Shias, killing more than 40 members of the community in the two incidents.

Similarly, the Ahmadi community is coming under repeated attack. According to Ali Dayan Hasan of Human Rights Watch, the government's reaction of appeasement following Taseer's assassination instead of holding people accountable has promoted a culture of vigilantism. As a result, there has been more use of the blasphemy laws since Taseer's killing, reflecting “ethical degradation of state and society.”
Pakistan needs more Islam. Vigilantism is just not enough.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 22, 20

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The adoption of skimpy Western clothes by Indian TV reality show hosts is psy-ops to make the TSP get w-e-cutleted. Sort of Bhasmasura imitations

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 22, 20

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More entertainment. You folks in Bengaluroo, can you please stop stealing Paki river waters?

Pak will convert into a desert if Indian water aggression not countered: Zahoorul Hassan
Chairman Indus Basin Water Council Pakistan Hafiz Zahoorul Hassan Dahir said on Monday that the governments in the past handed the rivers system to India and Jewish lobby just to prolong their rule.

In a press briefing, Zahoorul Hassan Dahir said according to international laws and direction of the flowing rivers could not be changed under any agreement or law. He said according to Barcelona Convention 1921, to which India is also a signatory, no country has the right to seize the river water and change its direction.

He said the Indian Planning Commission had allocated $120 billion for dropping a "water bomb" on Pakistan and now this amount has been raised to $380 billion. Under this plan, India plans to divert the water of Indus, Chenab and Jhelum rivers from north to south, he said. To store all the water in its territory, he said, India has completed 62 big and small dams, 31 dams are near completion and construction work is being carried out on 190 other dams.

He said it will be the biggest water robbery of the world when India will completely block all the water coming to Pakistan by diverting it to Bangalore, Rajasthan and Laddakh in India.

Hafiz Zahoorul Hassan warned that if an emergency plan was not prepared to foil the Indian plan, then Pakistan would convert into a desert in the coming four years.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 22, 20

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Pakistan would convert into a desert
What do Pakistanis find wrong with that? Their landscape will turn similar to that of the country they revere.
They should thank India, US and the Jewish lobby. The ingrates!
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 22, 20

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Didn't they want to be the Saudi Arabia of Indian sub-continent?
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At first glance I read it as 100% have mental disorders, which I think is 400% closer to reality. :rotfl:
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Zahoor ul Hassan is a kafir Shia guy - what does he know. IWT was signed by a gazi like Ayub Khan.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 22, 20

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Jaspreet wrote:
Pakistan would convert into a desert
What do Pakistanis find wrong with that? Their landscape will turn similar to that of the country they revere.
They should thank India, US and the Jewish lobby. The ingrates!
In exchange of IWT , India must sign Indus Grass Treaty =IGT to guarantee the supply of lush green grass for upto350 Million Grasseaters of Paki Amoebia/Arabia.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 22, 20

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Image

I guess this guy and his buddies from the Karachi fashion show must have been involved in the girls school incident of masked men attacking the school and thrashing the girls!

On the other hand, it is the creative fashion genius of Pakistan to have come up with the male version of the shuttlecock.
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Pakistan Taliban considers peace talks: report
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And Prime Minister Y saaf Roza Gilani was quoted by newspapers as saying the government was ready to talk peace."Our shura (council) will decide whether and when can we enter into talks with the government, with the military," the Express Tribune quoted Maulvi Wali-ur-Rehman Mehsud, deputy leader of the Pakistani Taliban, as saying."But I think we would like to involve countries we trust ... they are in the Arab world. Let's say Saudi Arabia."Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan, or Taliban Movement of Pakistan (TTP), which is close to al Qaeda, was formed in December 2007 as an alliance of Pakistani militant groups to attack the Pakistani state.It has been blamed for many of the suicide bombings across Pakistan.Several army offensives against the group's strongholds on the Afghan border have failed to weaken its campaign. Thousands of Pakistani soldiers, policemen and civilians have been killed in the conflict."Until now, we don't have any direct peace offer ... our shura will sit down when we are approached. That is how we operate. There is one centralized body to take important decisions," the newspaper quoted Mehsud as saying on its website.Any shift toward reconciliation with the TTP could anger Washington.Last year, the United States added the TTP to its list of foreign terrorist organizations and set rewards for information leading to the capture of two of its leaders.
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http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colber ... --pakistan

Steven Colbert's take on the Pakhanastan-Uncle relationship. Hilarious and BRF-approved! :)
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RCase wrote:Image
Left image is kufr, shalwar is hiding his ankles, i declare him wajib-ul-qatl http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... tants-shot

OTOH right image is very pious , dress is perfect for producing beheading p0rn videos
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jrjrao wrote:More entertainment. You folks in Bengaluroo, can you please stop stealing Paki river waters?

Pak will convert into a desert if Indian water aggression not countered: Zahoorul Hassan
Chairman Indus Basin Water Council Pakistan Hafiz Zahoorul Hassan Dahir said on Monday that the governments in the past handed the rivers system to India and Jewish lobby just to prolong their rule.

He said it will be the biggest water robbery of the world when India will completely block all the water coming to Pakistan by diverting it to Bangalore, Rajasthan and Laddakh in India.
yeh duffer chairman kaise baan gaaya?
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 22, 20

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Also for pious people is the color acceptable? Shouldnt it be black or green for the hooded jacket?
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RCase wrote:Image

On the other hand, it is the creative fashion genius of Pakistan to have come up with the male version of the shuttlecock.
The target audience are anti-YYY mobs (from RAPE classes). After all they too need to exercise their democratic rights by burning few things here and there in Pakistan.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 22, 20

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Taliban publishes its most wanted list of Police Officers in Karachi.
I am astounded that a newspaper in Pakistan would publish the names of senior police officers of Karachi who are in the crosshairs of Taliban.
Marked men: Six police officers walk around with ‘targets’ on their backs
Immediately after the attack on Aslam’s house in Defence on September 19, an email in perfectly typed English was sent to members of the media by the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan’s Ihsanullah Ihsan: “We will also kill the other friends of the SSP...
Each of the men have dealt with the death threats differently. While some of these officers say they have trouble looking for new homes because of the threat to their lives, others fear sending their children to school. Some have even changed their offices.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 22, 20

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shiv wrote: Pakistan needs strategic depth ---- Ejaz Haider
:mrgreen:
What is the fellow trying to say?

He is trying to tie a rakhi on India to make a change from "i want to screw you" to "i want biratherly relason-sip"
Every state needs strategic depth and given Pakistan’s geographical location, she more than some others.
Broadly, in military terms, it refers to a state’s ability to deal with an offensive through elastic, multi-layered defence, absorb the initial thrust, stress the enemy forces and inflict attrition on it through multiple counter-strikes that would lead to the offensive petering out and falling short of its objectives.

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First of all there is a deep contradiction. For a state with that small geo graphy should confine itself to its own location. Why is it looking at a large geo graphy which is more than it can handle. The PA and elite is thinking in term of a super power - wide area when they are not.

They need to think small and only think their region. Or else they will be treated suspiciously and seen as expansionist.
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Small-Poaks have spread wild and cant think to their small size after being brought up on the steady diet of grandeur ,spoon feded by Massa and Nurse Queen. They could not expand into Indian Punjab or Kashmir .This failure have forced them to usurp the land of Afghans but got kicked out after 911. Its only after 10 years the noose have begin to tighten around their neck and like any dog they will try to resist for a while and then accept their rightful place of Poodle number 1. If and when Massa gets out from AP by 2014, Chinese will have 4-6 year window (War window) to play nasty,no more than that . Grasseaters need to think beyond 2020.. the horizon is dark,land is barren and empty mouths multiplying on daily basis. Future almost looks as stinking as any traditional Lahori Londo Mowlari personifying arrogance and stupidity together .
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/0 ... 11487.html

article has been moved from that location but it had the following title. (please post if someone has a reference.)

"Hafiz Saeed A 'Humanitarian': Pakistan UN Ambassador"

 – I just sat down with the Pakistani Ambassador the United Nations, Abdullah Hussain Haroon. I asked Amb. - Cached
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Towards the end of September, Chief of Army Staff Ashfaq Parvez Kayani held an unannounced meeting with US Senator John Kerry in Abu Dhabi, says a government source. The meeting, which was reportedly tense but productive, took place after departing joint chiefs of staff Admiral Mike Mullen explicitly accused the ISI of supporting the Haqqani network. In the wake of the meeting between Kerry and Kayani, however, the US has begun to backtrack again.According to the source, negotiations between the two centred on military aid to Pakistan and the Haqqani network. Kayani pointed out how it would be impossible for Pakistan to continue helping the US in the war against terror if there was any cut in military aid. Kerry, who is believed in the US to most likely be the next secretary of state if Barack Obama wins reelection, and is also considered to be pro-Pakistan, agreed that aid should not be cut so long as Pakistan was regularly capturing al-Qaeda leaders.The impromptu Kerry-Kayani summit was less successful in coming to an agreement on how to deal with the Haqqani network. Kerry kept insisting that US government policy will not budge from requiring the military to carry out an operation against the group in North Waziristan. Kayani preferred to point out that the US has also been holding talks with the Haqqani network, using Pakistan’s contacts with them to initiate the talks. Thus, he felt, it was hypocritical of the US to so publicly call out Pakistan for its contacts with the Haqqani network.There has been a discernible improvement in relations between the two countries after the Abu Dhabi meeting with the US slowly taking back its allegations of Pakistan-Haqqani network complicity and suggesting that this will not lead to a split between Pakistan and the US.What Kayani said to Kerry was reinforced at the Corps Commanders’ conference at GHQ on October 7, says a military source. Among other things, the conference discussed the line Pakistan would take during the upcoming visit by Marc Grossman, the US Special Envoy to Pakistan and Afghanistan.
http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/8378/ ... ashington/
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Need right response to below
1948 war _ Pakistan got Kashmir Land (Azad Kashmir)

1965 war _ A glorious victory of Pak. India lost 119 fighter jet. While PAK lost 3. COMPLETE AIR VICTORY.

1971 war _ A victory of Bangali Muslim. India lost 108 fighter jet. While PAK lost 28.

Kargil Conflict _ 1000 Pakiz vs 7,00000 Indian army. Pak captured Kargil. India lost thousands of their soldiers. Indian PM run to USA to to save his his from PAK. so coz of USA we let Indian to go. India lost 3 Mig & 1 H.copter. Paki lost 0.
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Acharya wrote:Need right response to below
1948 war _ Pakistan got Kashmir Land (Azad Kashmir)

1965 war _ A glorious victory of Pak. India lost 119 fighter jet. While PAK lost 3. COMPLETE AIR VICTORY.

1971 war _ A victory of Bangali Muslim. India lost 108 fighter jet. While PAK lost 28.

Kargil Conflict _ 1000 Pakiz vs 7,00000 Indian army. Pak captured Kargil. India lost thousands of their soldiers. Indian PM run to USA to to save his his from PAK. so coz of USA we let Indian to go. India lost 3 Mig & 1 H.copter. Paki lost 0.
May Pakistan keep winning such victories!
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^^^

Right response is, it is all true boss. Every time, Pakistani ghazis won onlee. What to do. Sooner or later Amrika will be gone from the region, and then India will not be able to run to Amrika and beg them to save us from Pakistani ghazis. Then we will be helpless. Green flag will fly over red fort.

Therefore the correct course of action for Pakistani ghazis is to make Amrika get out of Afghanistan sooner rather than later. Do not cooperate with the loser Amrikans in Afghanistan. Continue to use Haqqanis. Continue to send Faisal Shahzads. Try to get it right once or twice.

After all, the sooner Amrika gets defeated and runs away from Afghanistan, the sooner we Indians will be left helpless.
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^^^
add: amrika can't do anything to pakistan since china is there to help.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 22, 20

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FTimes:

Time to take on Pakistan’s jihadist spies
By Mansoor Ijaz
Early on May 9, a week after US Special Forces stormed the hideout of Osama bin Laden and killed him, a senior Pakistani diplomat telephoned me with an urgent request. Asif Ali Zardari, Pakistan’s president, needed to communicate a message to White House national security officials that would bypass Pakistan’s military and intelligence channels. The embarrassment of bin Laden being found on Pakistani soil had humiliated Mr Zardari’s weak civilian government to such an extent that the president feared a military takeover was imminent. He needed an American fist on his army chief’s desk to end any misguided notions of a coup – and fast.

Gen Ashfaq Kayani, the army chief, and his troops were demoralised by the embarrassing ease with which US special forces had violated Pakistani sovereignty. Inter-Services Intelligence, Pakistan’s feared spy service, was charged by virtually the entire international community with complicity in hiding bin Laden for almost six years. Both camps were looking for a scapegoat; Mr Zardari was their most convenient target.

The diplomat made clear that the civilian government’s preferred channel to receive Mr Zardari’s message was Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff. He was a time-tested friend of Pakistan and could convey the necessary message with force not only to President Barack Obama, but also to Gen Kayani.

In a flurry of phone calls and emails over two days a memorandum was crafted that included a critical offer from the Pakistani president to the Obama administration: “The new national security team will eliminate Section S of the ISI charged with maintaining relations to the Taliban, Haqqani network, etc. This will dramatically improve relations with Afghanistan.”

The memo was delivered to Admiral Mullen at 14.00 hours on May 10. A meeting between him and Pakistani national security officials took place the next day at the White House. Pakistan’s military and intelligence chiefs, it seems, neither heeded the warning, nor acted on the admiral’s advice.

On September 22, in his farewell testimony to the Senate armed services committee, Admiral Mullen said he had “credible intelligence” that a bombing on September 11 that wounded 77 US and Nato troops and an attack on the US embassy in Kabul on September 13 were done “with ISI support.” Essentially he was indicting Pakistan’s intelligence services for carrying out a covert war against the US – perhaps in retaliation for the raid on bin Laden’s compound, perhaps out of strategic national interest to put Taliban forces back in power in Afghanistan so that Pakistan would once again have the “strategic depth” its paranoid security policies against India always envisioned.

Questions about the ISI’s role in Pakistan have intensified in recent months. The finger of responsibility in many otherwise inexplicable attacks has often pointed to a shadowy outfit of ISI dubbed “S-Wing”, which is said to be dedicated to promoting the dubious agenda of a narrow group of nationalists who believe only they can protect Pakistan’s territorial integrity.

The time has come for the state department to declare the S-Wing a sponsor of terrorism under the designation of “foreign governmental organisations”. Plans by the Obama administration to blacklist the Haqqani network are toothless and will have no material impact on the group’s military support and intelligence logistics; it is S-Wing that allegedly provides all of this in the first place. It no longer matters whether ISI is wilfully blind, complicit or incompetent in the attacks its S-Wing is carrying out. S-Wing must be stopped.

ISI embodies the scourge of radicalism that has become a cornerstone of Pakistan’s foreign policy.
The time has come for America to take the lead in shutting down the political and financial support that sustains an organ of the Pakistani state that undermines global antiterrorism efforts at every turn. Measures such as stopping aid to Pakistan, as a bill now moving through Congress aims to do, are not the solution. More precise policies are needed to remove the cancer that ISI and its rogue wings have become on the Pakistani state.

Pakistanis are not America’s enemies. Neither is their incompetent and toothless civilian government – the one Admiral Mullen was asked to help that May morning. The enemy is a state organ that breeds hatred among Pakistan’s Islamist masses and then uses their thirst for jihad against Pakistan’s neighbours and allies to sate its hunger for power. Taking steps to reduce its influence over Pakistan’s state affairs is a critical measure of the world’s willingness to stop the terror masters at their very roots.
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so sunroof lever beacons?
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Thanks Cosmo_R
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Acharya wrote:Need right response to below
1948 war _ Pakistan got Kashmir Land (Azad Kashmir)

1965 war _ A glorious victory of Pak. India lost 119 fighter jet. While PAK lost 3. COMPLETE AIR VICTORY.

1971 war _ A victory of Bangali Muslim. India lost 108 fighter jet. While PAK lost 28.

Kargil Conflict _ 1000 Pakiz vs 7,00000 Indian army. Pak captured Kargil. India lost thousands of their soldiers. Indian PM run to USA to to save his his from PAK. so coz of USA we let Indian to go. India lost 3 Mig & 1 H.copter. Paki lost 0.
Here is the response, but you may have seen it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvioAKTyK_4
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Riedel on Pakistani Intelligence’s Relationship to Terrorism

By Spencer Ackerman
06.04.09 | 3:35 pm

http://washingtonindependent.com/45725/ ... -terrorism
If Bruce Riedel, chairman of the Obama administration’s Afghanistan-Pakistan strategy review, has a bottom line as to the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence’s relationship with extremist groups, it’s that such relationships are deliberately murky. ISI is not a “rogue intelligence agency,” he told a crowd last night at the International Spy Museum, but instead mostly follows the prerogatives of the ruling Pakistani military or civilian leadership. “Fighting some, tolerating others and patronizing a few” is how Riedel described ISI’s relationship with various Afghan and Pakistani extremist organizations, calling such difficult contortions a sign of a “remarkable agile espionage instrument.” In other words: don’t think ISI has a capabilities problem.

The most explicit client relationship ISI maintains with such groups is with the anti-Indian terrorist group Lashkar-e-Taiba. “Just this week, the Pakistanis allowed the head of Lashkar-e-Taiba … [to be] released from the farce of house arrest,” he said. “Tensions between India and Pakistan are going to go up this week because of that.” And while there aren’t indications that ISI operates in such a way with al-Qaeda or the Pakistani Taliban, the terrorist groups see little problem cooperating with one another.

Selective counterterrorism is weak counterterrorism, because the bad guys tend to operate together. For example, within the last several weeks, a major terrorist cell was exposed in the city of Karachi. The target was to go after senior officials in the city government. That cell had as its leadership a troika: one member of the Pakistani Taliban, one member of Lashkar-e-Taiba, and one member of al-Qaeda. They are prepared to work together. They’re not prepared, so far at least, to turn on each other. … How long is Pakistan going to try and have it all ways at the same time?

For a while longer at least. Over at U.N. Dispatch, Mark Leon Goldberg interviewed Abdullah Hussain Haroon, Pakistan’s ambassador to the United Nations, about the release of that Lashkar-e-Taiba leader, Hafiz Saeed. Haroon defended Saeed and denied that he’s a terrorist:

Are you familiar in any way with the work of Hafiz Saeed? He’s not LET. He’s Jamaat-ud-Dawah [a front group for the LET], and it’s a purely social organization. He works not for Islam alone but does charitable work around the world. … They run a very large myriad of institutions that in fact contribute to the social good. Now if you say, ‘ah, they have an ideological belief,’ well, I suppose they do, but that’s not enough to sink anyone.

It’s almost as if Haroon is forgetting that the reason Saeed was under house arrest was because evidence emerged tying him and the JUD to the Mumbai massacres last year. That’s why Riedel said his placement under house arrest was farcical.

“The ISI has clearly been penetrated by some of these extreme jihadist groups,” Riedel continued. “When you have attacks inside fortified compounds” — like the one last week in Lahore by the Pakistani Taliban in response to the Pakistani military’s offensive in Swat — “those are being done by someone who’s working a double game. But that doesn’t mean the agency itself is a rogue organization. It means it’s been penetrated.”
TSP's "permanent" rep to UN :arrow: Haroon :arrow: "humantarian" "charity work" :arrow: Hafiz Saeed of LET (Main planner 26/11) :arrow: led prayers for UBL in Pakistan. :idea:

The interviewer should have had a follow up question for Mr Haroon in the "The way Pakistan has been treated", that it wasn't asked is a pity.
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K. so coz of USA we let Indian to go. India lost 3 Mig & 1 H.copter. Paki lost 0.
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Here is the response, but you may have seen it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvioAKTyK_4[/quote]

No mention of Islamic colored Green Grass ?
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Prem wrote:Cooked in Abu Dhabi, served in Islamabad and Washington
Towards the end of September, Chief of Army Staff Ashfaq Parvez Kayani held an unannounced meeting with US Senator John Kerry in Abu Dhabi, says a government source. The meeting, which was reportedly tense but productive, took place after departing joint chiefs of staff Admiral Mike Mullen explicitly accused the ISI of supporting the Haqqani network. In the wake of the meeting between Kerry and Kayani, however, the US has begun to backtrack again.According to the source, negotiations between the two centred on military aid to Pakistan and the Haqqani network. Kayani pointed out how it would be impossible for Pakistan to continue helping the US in the war against terror if there was any cut in military aid. Kerry, who is believed in the US to most likely be the next secretary of state if Barack Obama wins reelection, and is also considered to be pro-Pakistan, agreed that aid should not be cut so long as Pakistan was regularly capturing al-Qaeda leaders.The impromptu Kerry-Kayani summit was less successful in coming to an agreement on how to deal with the Haqqani network. Kerry kept insisting that US government policy will not budge from requiring the military to carry out an operation against the group in North Waziristan. Kayani preferred to point out that the US has also been holding talks with the Haqqani network, using Pakistan’s contacts with them to initiate the talks. Thus, he felt, it was hypocritical of the US to so publicly call out Pakistan for its contacts with the Haqqani network.There has been a discernible improvement in relations between the two countries after the Abu Dhabi meeting with the US slowly taking back its allegations of Pakistan-Haqqani network complicity and suggesting that this will not lead to a split between Pakistan and the US.What Kayani said to Kerry was reinforced at the Corps Commanders’ conference at GHQ on October 7, says a military source. Among other things, the conference discussed the line Pakistan would take during the upcoming visit by Marc Grossman, the US Special Envoy to Pakistan and Afghanistan.
http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/8378/ ... ashington/

http://www.thefridaytimes.com/beta2/tft ... 07&page=32
oys for the boys

Surreptitious friends are supposed to say to each other, "We can't go on meeting like this". Our mole espied Carry and Canny meeting just so in an Arab Emirate, all very cloak and dagger. This was back in July and the said meeting went on for nigh on eight hours, we hear. They're supposed to have been at it again in the same Arab Emirate last week. Again, an interminable meeting. Poor Carry seems to be the intermediary of last resort, with others having quit Mulling it over and what have you. They say Carry still has a tiny little leftover soft corner for Pakistan in his heart, what with his investment in a former Foreign Minister having bombed. But back to the Carry-Canny talks. What could they be about, since we're not about to give up on our various assets? Wags are saying some shipment of toys for the boys are held up and since that's what matters most to us, it's that which was top of the agenda. That said, Carry must've tried to extract his pound of flesh. And so on, ad nauseum.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 22, 20

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Acharya wrote:Need right response to below
1948 war _ Pakistan got Kashmir Land (Azad Kashmir)

1965 war _ A glorious victory of Pak. India lost 119 fighter jet. While PAK lost 3. COMPLETE AIR VICTORY.

1971 war _ A victory of Bangali Muslim. India lost 108 fighter jet. While PAK lost 28.

Kargil Conflict _ 1000 Pakiz vs 7,00000 Indian army. Pak captured Kargil. India lost thousands of their soldiers. Indian PM run to USA to to save his his from PAK. so coz of USA we let Indian to go. India lost 3 Mig & 1 H.copter. Paki lost 0.
So the Paki think that the 100,000 Paki surrendered to Bangladeshis and spent a couple of years in Bangladeshis jail? Let them think so!

Important thing to know is "Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience".
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 22, 20

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Dipanker wrote:
So the Paki think that the 100,000 Paki surrendered to Bangladeshis and spent a couple of years in Bangladeshis jail? Let them think so!

Important thing to know is "Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience".
No it is true. You see in 1971 Pakistan soldiers liberated Bangladesh and then 100,000 of them fought their way through India and returned to Pakistan. The number of IAF and IA and IN explosives that just committed soosai made the Pakis laugh. Here is a video of Pakis laughing at India in 1971

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl3ODOcE9Mk
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 22, 20

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Yeah, the "right response" is the ROFL smiley.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 22, 20

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Prem wrote: No mention of Islamic colored Green Grass ?
Some glory of Islam here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QehgTIOmkmQ
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 22, 20

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ramana wrote:Also for pious people is the color acceptable? Shouldnt it be black or green for the hooded jacket?
White is acceptable and is more pious - that is 400%confirmed by our Arabi birathers.

White > black > green is the pecking order. First we bow to the arabis, then the iranian mullahs and then the pious fauj.
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