Internal Security Watch

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 14 Oct 2011 06:08

Modi vs Bhatt

If the late Hemant Karkare became a hero in the Muslim press for seeming to pursue “non-Islamic”sources of terror, the arrested IPS officer from Gujarat, Sanjeev Bhatt, appears to be attaining a similar halo for “standing up to” Chief Minister Narendra Modi.

Jamaat-e-Islami’s Daawat, in a front-page commentary (October 7) writes: “Modi’s vengeful actions against IPS officer Sanjeev Bhatt seem to be endless. Bhatt is displaying courage and determination... He is fully aware of the hardships and problems that he has to overcome.”

Noted Urdu poet and columnist Hasan Kamal writes in Rashtriya Sahara : “By arresting Bhatt, Modi has in fact, tried to stop him from deposing against him... But he is not the only officer willing to come out with the truth... Two other officers have also made the same allegations, that Modi not only did nothing to stop the mass killings of Muslims in 2002, he also instructed police officers to ‘allow Hindus to vent their anger this time.’ It will soon be known how politically beneficial or harmful Modi’s revenge against Bhatt will be.”

Delhi-based Nai Duniya, edited by former MP Shahid Siddiqui, on October 10, describes Bhatt’s arrest as “murder of justice” and asks: “where are the protectors of the Constitution sleeping?”

Jai Telangana?

Urdu dailies from Hyderabad and others with southern editions are much exercised by what they term the Centre’s “policy of silence” on the demand for bifurcating Andhra Pradesh.

Angry at the dithering, Hyderabad’s leading daily Munsif writes in its editorial: “It won’t be incorrect to say the Centre and Congress have been constantly deceiving the people of Telangana. In 2004, votes were gathered with a deceptive alliance with the TRS, and then they pretended as though the problem was nonexistent. When KCR sat on a fast and his condition started deteriorating, Home Minister P. Chidambaram made a midnight announcement in Delhi accepting the Telangana demand. But what really happened? When local Congress leaders explained to the party that nothing would be gained through this, they broke their promise and the group of ministers did not take any decision on this sensitive matter. The government must take some concrete initiative before the Telangana movement is further intensified.”

Riots and wrongs

Recent incidents of communal violence and skirmishes in Uttarakhand, Uttar Pradesh, Maharashtra, West Bengal and Andhra Pradesh have been extensively reported. Reports and editorials talk of “alarm” and “restlessness” amongst minorities, but unlike the usual rhetoric, this time the tone is restrained and moderate.

In a prominent signed editorial on the front page on October 10, Rashtriya Sahara editor Aziz Burney speaks of “an organised conspiracy to inflame Muslim sentiment, desecrate the Quran and create a pretext for a riot... but we have to keep our sentiments in check and not allow the conspiracy to succeed. Muslim representatives, along with their Hindu brethren, should appeal to local chief ministers and draw immediate attention to this problem.”

In a statement published widely on October 4, the usually unrestrained Shahi Imam of Delhi’s Jama Masjid, Maulana Ahmed Bukhari, has urged Muslims to “not respond violently to efforts to arouse passions, because a riot harms the lives and properties of Muslims and helps communal elements succeed in their conspiracy to harm Muslims.”

Delhi-based Hamara Samaj asks in an editorial (October 10): “Why are political parties opposing the bill to prevent communal violence? Do these parties want the country to always burn in the fire of communal violence? Do they not understand the meaning and spirit of democracy?”

Rest in peace

Rich tributes have been paid by most papers to ghazal maestro Jagjit Singh, who passed on this week. “Jag ko jeet kar, Jagjit ne chhori duniya” (After conquering the world, Jagjit leaves) is Rashtriya Sahara’s headline for an elaborate feature. A large photo is captioned with a line from one of the ghazals he sang, ‘Kahan Tum Chale Gaye’, in Hamara Samaj.

Former Indian cricket captain Mansur Ali Khan Pataudi also got many moving tributes, including editorials on his cricketing feats. According to a report in Siasat (September 26), Bombay cinema’s tragedy king Dilip Kumar “regained his fading memory when he received news of (Pataudi’s) death on TV. He dictated a letter addressed to Tiger’s wife, Sharmila Tagore, saying that he could well understand the intensity of Sharmila’s loneliness now.”

Airavat · Post by **Airavat** » 14 Oct 2011 06:08

Chidambaram has centralised anti-terror responses, thus weakening states: KPS Gill

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 14 Oct 2011 06:28

In connection with the latest ISI terror attempt, let us remember the following.

Some of the Khalistani terrorists, notably members of the Babbar Khalsa group including Babbar Khalsa International chief Wadhawan Singh Babbar (he was one of the forty terrorists who was wanted by India from Pakistan and who is also involved in the 1985 Kanishka bombing) and the hijackers of several Indian Airlines planes between circa 1981 and 1984, like Gajendra Singh of Dal Khalsa and his associates, and the one who planted the bomb in Air-India’s flight AI 182 Kanishka Montreal-New Delhi flight and Khalistani Zindabad Force (KZF) including its chief Ranjit Singh Neeta and International Sikh Youth Federation leader Lakhbir Singh Brar who was one of the three to have placed the bomb on the plane, trained and armed by the ISI, took refuge in Lahore, Pakistan and continue to operate from there. It also includes Paramjit Singh Panjawar, the chief of Khalistan Commando Force (KCF), who lives in Pakistan, runs terrorist training camps and actively plans and executes terror strikes in India. Similarly, leaders of the Babbar Khalsa International and International Sikh Youth Federation who were involved in the assassination of the Punjab Chief Minister, Beant Singh, took refuge in Pakistan. Fugitive Indian Mujahideen commander Riyaz Ismail Shahbandri, also known as Riyaz Bhatkal, his brother Iqbal Shahbandri, and the bomb-maker Abdul Subhan Quereshi alias Tauqeer who together run ‘Project Karachi’ for the ISI and the LeT, also took refuge in Karachi in c. 2008. The entity ‘Indian Mujahideen’ is actually the LeT unit of India. It extensively recruits jihadists from Hyderabad, Azamgarh (UP), Ahmedabad, Malappuram (Kerala) and Bhatkal (Karnataka) and send them for training to Pakistan.

sanjeevpunj · Post by **sanjeevpunj** » 14 Oct 2011 08:23

I spent many difficult moments of my life in Punjab during the early days of my career as a TV crew member (I handled sound for those juicy TV reports which the TV Journos do). One such moment of a face to face contact with Khalistani militants was in Muktsar, close to the border. Simranjeet Singh Mann,the renegade IAS officer, was present at the meeting.All the well known militants,Pammi,Neeta and many of them now no more, were there with guns in hand, walking free.The meeting was organised to forge a peace pact between militants and political parties.It was a heavily guarded scenario, with armed police and para-military guarding the venue.Had there been any disagreement,there would have been a massacre. At a point in time, during the speech of a leader, some voices came up in opposition,and blames began to fly, guns were cocked, and pistols were pulled out, and in a flash of a moment, SS Mann got up and pacified the men, swearing in the name of the holy Guru Granth Sahib, the peace was eventually restored.During this episode I was holding a microphone to capture the commotion, and when the guns cocked, I jumped two feet high in the air in a sitting position! The situation was such, that had anyone fired a single shot, there would be mayhem.This was the last I saw of these militant youth, now they must all be aged!
Later we met SS Mann, and he also offered us a visit at night across the borders! He gave us tea and biscuits, before speaking to the camera.Yes Pammi and Neeta were there too,though they kept vanishing quite easily.Although now many of the militants have been incorporated into the mainstream,some might still be renegade, living in Pakistan,Canada or UK.

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 14 Oct 2011 09:00

In Canada a good chunck of the second generation kids of the then Khalistanis identify themselves as "Indian"

Marut · Post by **Marut** » 14 Oct 2011 09:47

^The society abroad views them as Indian racially and tags them as such. It doesn't give a rat's ass for their perceived wrongs and ill-treatment other than some lip service. These kids soon learn that mingling with the majority gets you the benefits and hence call themselves as such. I have seen quite a few such pakis in LA. Their parents were from junagadh or hyd pre-partition and they use it to justify their indianness. The gurudwara nearby also had its share of khalistanis but their kids hardly ever bothered about the indian connection. They just want to enjoy the american way of life!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 14 Oct 2011 10:05

Airavat wrote:Chidambaram has centralised anti-terror responses, thus weakening states: KPS Gill

This is damning coming from Gillji. Considering PC was Minister of State for Home during PVNR regime.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 14 Oct 2011 15:16

http://www.sify.com/news/centre-alerts- ... aiejh.html

In the wake of the RDX haul in Haryana, the Centre has advised authorities in four metros besides Hyderabad and Bangalore to remain on high alert as terrorists may try to strike during the festival season.

Acting on intelligence inputs, the Centre asked authorities in Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai, Hyderabad and Bangalore to remain on high alert to foil any possible terrorist design to attack the cities in the run up to and during Diwali and other festivals, sources said today.

The Centre asked the police chiefs of these cities to intensify vigil and deploy additional forces in all sensitive locations, religious places, markets, airports, railway stations, bus terminals and other crowded places to ensure peace.

Over 5 kg of RDX was recovered from a car outside Ambala Cantonment railway station on Wednesday night by police which claimed that it succeeded in foiling a terror strike, possibly in Delhi ahead of Diwali, plotted by terror outfits Lashkar-e-Toiba and Babbar Khalsa.

The explosives were recovered following inputs provided by intelligence agencies ten days ago that a consignment of such material is headed to a north Indian metro.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 15 Oct 2011 00:58

Armed Bangladeshi Muslim intruders plunder bordering Hindu village in India

It is a blog, btw.

village of Sutia, P.S. Bongaon, Dist. 24 Paraganas (North)...reprisals for unanimous Hindu effort to ward off Muslim cattle smugglers from the village on the pervious day
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Union Government of India has ordered BSF not to fire at people seeking to cross over along the extensive porous India-Bangladesh border except self-defense.
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The terrible onslaught (starting around 11.30 pm) went on for almost one-and-half-hour leading to the destruction of Hindu households, temples, shops, cultivable lands and also vehicles.

The rashtra should get some camera phones in border areas to record nefarious activities. The Govt. order limiting effect of BSF however is like an open invitation for pillage from across the border.

Samudragupta · Post by **Samudragupta** » 15 Oct 2011 18:45

Arms or talks? Choose in 7 days, Mamata to Maoists

West Bengal Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee Saturday gave a seven-day ultimatum to Maoist rebels in the state to choose between dialogue and arms, while she announced a slew of infrastructure and development projects for the Junglemahal region.

Asserting that politics of murder and negotiations cannot go together, Banerjee said soon after coming to power in May, her government sought peace, but the ultras did not stop bloodshed

Considering the aggressive speech which she gave in the grounds of Midnapore...its clear both the parties are in for a showdown....the local vernacular press has already started the buildup....Interesting the local Marxists seems to be on board with the MB......neither she spoke anything against the Marxists this time probably a first in her political career....usual traitors have still not come out....

saadhak · Post by **saadhak** » 16 Oct 2011 22:33

After Ambala, explosives seized in Madhya Pradesh town

BHOPAL: Four days after a similar haul in Haryana's Ambala town, a huge quantity of explosives, including gelatine sticks, detonators and detonation cords, was recovered Sunday from a house and a car in Rewa district of Madhya Pradesh, police said. One person has been arrested.

"On a tip off, we raided the house of Rajesh Patel and found a huge quantity of gelatine sticks, detonators and detonating cords. Later, we came to know that explosives were also being transported in a car. We chased and seized the car too," Deputy Inspector General (DIG) of Police, Rewa, KP Khare, told IANS.

Rajesh Patel is absconding, he said.

"We cannot say much about the reasons behind the presence of explosives but we are interrogating Rajesh Patel's landlord Aditya Pratap Singh," said Khare.

Madhya Pradesh police recovered 14 packets of detonating cord, two and half packets of detonators and 10 packets of gelatine sticks from the house of Patel in Rewa, over 500 km from state capital.

From the car which they chased and seized, police recovered 5,000 gelatine sticks in 50 cartons and 29 packets of detonating cord. Car driver Manoj Kaul was arrested.

The seizure comes four days after an explosives laden car was found in the parking lot of Ambala Cantonment railway station in Haryana Oct 12.

On Oct 13, Bharatiya Janata Party leader LK Advani's anti-graft roadshow, Jan Chetna Yatra, passed through Rewa district.

saadhak · Post by **saadhak** » 16 Oct 2011 22:52

Ambala terror-busting operation follow-up
Lower courts on high alert

... top sources in the Delhi police now say they have "confirmed inputs" that Khalistani militant Jagtar Singh Tara and his terror module present in Delhi had carried out a survey at least two lower courts - Patiala House and the Karkardooma complex.At Karkardooma, all baggage is being frisked twice, both at the outer and inner gates. Cars, too, are being frisked.
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Sources in the special cell and crime branch, which are jointly investigating the Ambala case, believe that Tara himself might have been involved in the reccees. Tara, along with Jagtar Singh Hawara and Paramjit Singh Bheora, all accused in the assassination of former Punjab chief minister Beant Singh, had escaped from the high security Burail jail in Chandigarh some years ago. They are all still at large. The police claim they are now active in the Capital. "We have credible information that some men from his (Tara's ) module had stayed in Delhi. This is still early to determine whether the RDX recovered from Ambala was meant exclusively for them, but we are taking no chances before Diwali," said a source.
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Investigations so far in the Ambala explosives case have revealed that the car was bought in Amritsar in 2004 and it stayed in Rajasthan between 2005 and 2008. The car was at Ludhiana on October 4 and then went to Jammu. On October 12, it returned from Jammu to Ambala.

Incidentally, cops have found CCTV footage at two check points between Jammu and Ambala - Shambu barrier and Ladowal - to be hazy and of little use.

Police swagger may have helped Ambala terror module escape

The sources pointed out that they intercepted phone contacts between a suspected hawala dealer in Delhi and a contact in Nepal. It was their discussions over a consignment from Pakistan that put the intelligence agencies on the trail of the case. It is still not clear how from those phone calls the investigators linked up to the specific delivery.

The investigators said the consignment of RDX, detonators and timers was probably dumped in a pit along the Jammu border, close to Punjab, by a module. From there, the second terror module collected the consignment from the pit and took it in the Indica car that was recovered in Ambala.

A third module was to pick it up from Ambala and distribute it to final destinations. It is still not clear if the entire consignment was meant for Delhi. Some believe that it may have been meant for distribution in other cities too. It is also not clear if the third module would have carried out the blast, or if there was a fourth module that was to carry out the blasts.

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 17 Oct 2011 02:39

Hope this is a joke ! The Gallery is a must see

http://www.occupymumbai.co.nr/

Occupy Mumbai is a occupation on October 29th by the Indian people of Madam Cama Road, Mumbai near the headquarters of the Maharashtra state government building to peacefully protest against the Indian government's frequent abuse of human rights, rampant corruption and oppression of it's people.
We chose the location of Madam Cama Road because of it's close proximity to multiple important government buildings, as well as the State Bank of India's head office, the Union Bank of India and numerous other banks and corporations.
We are an offshoot of the 'Occupy Wall Street' movement and are supported by 'Occupy Together' and 'Occupy Globally'. Links to these organizations' websites can be found below:
http://www.occupytogether.org/
http://occupyglobally.com/
http://occupywallst.org/
We express solidarity with all occupation movements within India and across the globe.

Please follow us on Twitter:
http://twitter.com/Occupy_Mumbai

ABOUT US
What are our aims?
Our aim is to bring change in India to make it a more socially advanced and democratic nation. This can only be achieved through the following:
- The Indian government must do more to prevent currently rampant corruption
- All political prisoners such as Sanjiv Bhatt must be freed immediately
- The Indian government must stop transnational corporations abusing the rights of Indians
- The Maharashtra state government must invest more money into the Dharavi administrative ward which has become overrun with poverty
- India must focus less on it's foreign policy and more upon it's own people
- India must end state-sponsored brutality through the police, the Border Security Force and militia groups such as Salwa Judum
- India is encouraged to give the right to bear arms back to it's citizens

member_19686 · Post by **member_19686** » 17 Oct 2011 02:50

Except for the last point the rest are all garbage.

Disarming the populace was begun by Muslim tyrants like Alauddin Khilji, Aurangzeb and completed by the British.

Aurangzeb issued a firman that no Hindu shall ride horses or bear arms though he exempted Rajputs upon advice that it could provoke rebellion. In 1699 Guru Gobind Singh commanded every Khalsa Panthi to carry a kirpan.

Prior to that right to bear arms was well recognized and in practice, check for example what Medhatithi says about it and check the descriptions of how Hindus used to fight back.

Medieval Indian society, both urban and agrarian, was to some extent an armed society. In cities and towns the elite carried swords like walking sticks. In villages few men were without at least a spear or bow and arrows, and they were skilled in the use of these arms. In 1632, Peter Mundy actually saw in the present day Kanpur district, “labourers with their guns, swords and bucklers lying by them while they ploughed the ground”.70 Similarly, Manucci described how in Akbar’s days the villagers of the Mathura region defended themselves against Mughal revenue-collecting officers: “The women stood behind their husbands with spears and arrows, when the husband had shot off his matchlock, his wife handed him the lance, while she reloaded the matchlock.”71 The countryside was studded with little forts, some surrounded by nothing more than mud walls, but which nevertheless provided centres of the general tradition of rebellion and agrarian unrest. Armed peasants provided contingents to Baheliyas, Bhadauriyas, Bachgotis, Mandahars and Tomars in the earlier period, to Jats, Marathas and Sikhs in the later...

http://voiceofdharma.com/books/tlmr/ch7.htm

In his Manubhashya written sometime in the 9th century Medhatithi says (paraphrasing):

"A kshatriya is to live by bearing weapons, but other groups are permitted to also bear arms for self protection. As a justification he says the king's arms cannot reach all men, and that there are some wicked men who attack the most valiant of the king's officers, but are afraid of persons bearing arms."

The Congress used to promise before 1947 about lifting gun control but forgot soon as Brits left.

sum · Post by **sum** » 17 Oct 2011 08:22

X-post:

sum wrote:Not sure which dhaaga to post this in:
Sufi Maha Panchayat denounces Wahabi extremism

The All India Ulama & Mashaikh Board (AIUMB) on Sunday gave a call to Sunni Muslims across India to reject and rebuff hardline Wahabism so that Islam could return to its tolerant, Sufi roots: “When an extremist turns up at your door seeking your support, when anyone tries to recruit you into terrorism, hand him over to the nearest police station,” said Board general secretary Maulana Syed Mohd Ashraf Kachochavi, addressing a large-sized Maha Panchayat of Sunni Muslims here.

The Maulana also asked the government to immediately pass legislation to set up a Central Madrasa Board so that fundings to madrasas could be audited and a watch kept on the flow of Saudi petro-dollars into madrasa education.

The Maha Panchayat was a sort of “coming out” event for the AIUMB, which claims to represent 80 per cent of Sunni Muslims (themselves accounting for the largest share of Indian Muslims) and yet has been barely visible on the Indian Muslim political and cultural scene. The AIUMB's case is that despite their huge numbers, they have not been able to assert themselves because the Deobandis and the Wahabis have captured key Muslim institutions such as the Wakf Board and the madrasas, and also wield political influence far beyond their size: “The government listens only to the hardliners. It has handed over Wakf properties and Masjids, which belong to us, to them.”

Board members stressed the threat from Wahabi extremism over and over in their speeches to the Maha Panchayat, arguing that a small group of people had succeeded in giving a bad name to Islam and Muslims, most of whom were Sunni Sufis and therefore peace-loving, tolerant and intensely patriotic. Speakers also emphasised the essentially inclusive nature of Sufism which did not differentiate between Muslims and non-Muslims and allowed all communities to pray in their shrines. The Deobandis, on the other hand, did not allow their followers to go to Sufi dargahs.

“The time has come for us to come out and claim our rights. Let us take a pledge that we will never support Wahabi extremism — not today, not tomorrow. Let us take a pledge that we will work for the unity and integrity of our motherland,” Maulana Kachochavi told the gathering.

Later talking to the press, the Maulana made a strong pitch for a Madrasa Board saying: “Right now the madrasas are under the control of Wahabi-inspired organisations which run on Saudi money. The ideology they teach and spread is hardline Wahabism. These organisations have put pressure on the government not to enact the Act. We want the funds to go to the really needy and poor.”

Remarkably, the Maha Panchayat appeared to have been boycotted by the influential Urdu press. Last week, when the Board held a press conference in Delhi, Urdu journalists were openly hostile to the organisers, arguing that the AIUMB was trying to divide Muslims, and was no different from the Sangh Parivar, which saw all Muslims as terrorists.

Opposed to Congress

When journalists brought up the issue of the AIUMB's political leanings on Sunday, AIUMB members insisted that they were apolitical. However, Maulana Kachochavi made it clear that the AIUMB was opposed to the Congress, “which propped up hardline organisations like the Jamiat Ulama-e-Hind.” Asked if the AIUMB would put up its own candidates in the Uttar Pradesh Assembly elections, he admitted that it was an idea they were considering, as “that seems to be the only way to make people and the government hear us.” But for now, “we will vote whoever supports all our demands.”
Interesting that even the other media ( non-urdu) has completely ignored this...must be because of the anti-INC nature of the protest.

Just proves that the Urdu press has been completely wahabbised.

shyam · Post by **shyam** » 17 Oct 2011 09:38

kshatriya wrote:http://www.occupymumbai.co.nr

Are they hosting the website and making the call for occupation from a hidden location?

BTW, check the twitter link. You can see a direct request to Shashi Tharoor to spread the message.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 17 Oct 2011 10:13

sum wrote:X-post:
[quote="sum"Not sure which dhaaga to post this in:
Sufi Maha Panchayat denounces Wahabi extremism

The All India Ulama & Mashaikh Board (AIUMB) on Sunday gave a call to Sunni Muslims across India to reject and rebuff hardline Wahabism so that Islam could return to its tolerant, Sufi roots: “When an extremist turns up at your door seeking your support, when anyone tries to recruit you into terrorism, hand him over to the nearest police station,” said Board general secretary Maulana Syed Mohd Ashraf Kachochavi, addressing a large-sized Maha Panchayat of Sunni Muslims here.

The Maulana also asked the government to immediately pass legislation to set up a Central Madrasa Board so that fundings to madrasas could be audited and a watch kept on the flow of Saudi petro-dollars into madrasa education.

The Maha Panchayat was a sort of “coming out” event for the AIUMB, which claims to represent 80 per cent of Sunni Muslims (themselves accounting for the largest share of Indian Muslims) and yet has been barely visible on the Indian Muslim political and cultural scene. The AIUMB's case is that despite their huge numbers, they have not been able to assert themselves because the Deobandis and the Wahabis have captured key Muslim institutions such as the Wakf Board and the madrasas, and also wield political influence far beyond their size: “The government listens only to the hardliners. It has handed over Wakf properties and Masjids, which belong to us, to them.”

Board members stressed the threat from Wahabi extremism over and over in their speeches to the Maha Panchayat, arguing that a small group of people had succeeded in giving a bad name to Islam and Muslims, most of whom were Sunni Sufis and therefore peace-loving, tolerant and intensely patriotic. Speakers also emphasised the essentially inclusive nature of Sufism which did not differentiate between Muslims and non-Muslims and allowed all communities to pray in their shrines. The Deobandis, on the other hand, did not allow their followers to go to Sufi dargahs.

“The time has come for us to come out and claim our rights. Let us take a pledge that we will never support Wahabi extremism — not today, not tomorrow. Let us take a pledge that we will work for the unity and integrity of our motherland,” Maulana Kachochavi told the gathering.

Later talking to the press, the Maulana made a strong pitch for a Madrasa Board saying: “Right now the madrasas are under the control of Wahabi-inspired organisations which run on Saudi money. The ideology they teach and spread is hardline Wahabism. These organisations have put pressure on the government not to enact the Act. We want the funds to go to the really needy and poor.”

Remarkably, the Maha Panchayat appeared to have been boycotted by the influential Urdu press. Last week, when the Board held a press conference in Delhi, Urdu journalists were openly hostile to the organisers, arguing that the AIUMB was trying to divide Muslims, and was no different from the Sangh Parivar, which saw all Muslims as terrorists.

Opposed to Congress

When journalists brought up the issue of the AIUMB's political leanings on Sunday, AIUMB members insisted that they were apolitical. However, Maulana Kachochavi made it clear that the AIUMB was opposed to the Congress, “which propped up hardline organisations like the Jamiat Ulama-e-Hind.” Asked if the AIUMB would put up its own candidates in the Uttar Pradesh Assembly elections, he admitted that it was an idea they were considering, as “that seems to be the only way to make people and the government hear us.” But for now, “we will vote whoever supports all our demands.”
Interesting that even the other media ( non-urdu) has completely ignored this...must be because of the anti-INC nature of the protest.

Just proves that the Urdu press has been completely wahabbised./quote]

It also proves that INC uses the most extreme organisations in order to divide citizens and they vote based on religion. Its a tight rope walk, which can undo itself.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 17 Oct 2011 10:15

Maoists put up posters threatening Trinamool leaders

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 17 Oct 2011 12:25

shyam wrote:
kshatriya wrote:http://www.occupymumbai.co.nr
Are they hosting the website and making the call for occupation from a hidden location?

BTW, check the twitter link. You can see a direct request to Shashi Tharoor to spread the message.

From link on wikipedia,

.nr is the Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for Nauru.

The location is here, in the South Pacific.

Varoon Shekhar · Post by **Varoon Shekhar** » 17 Oct 2011 19:24

http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/192823/ftn ... right.html

Panel discussion about the threats to freedom of speech in India. I see now what Brihaspati and CRamS are saying. It is very, very dishonest to lay the blame and focus solely on either the Indian government or elements of the Sangh Parivar. In this discussion, there is not a *single*( not a one) mention of the threats, intimidation and murderous violence of the Islamists, Kashmiris, Naxals, Khalistanis, ULFA, NSCN and other groups. Is it anyone's case that all these entities are striving for an environment where there is more, not less, freedom of speech and expression, than what currently exists in India? I surely hope not!

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 17 Oct 2011 19:43

BTW, check the twitter link. You can see a direct request to Shashi Tharoor to spread the message.

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From link on wikipedia,

.nr is the Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for Nauru.

The location is here, in the South Pacific.[/quote]

You can get a .nr name for free with hosting. The name is registered to a Patel from US

Tamang · Post by **Tamang** » 17 Oct 2011 20:01

Now, Aruna slams UID, says it may aid communal targeting

PANAJI: A day after slamming Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on an RTI remark, National Advisory Council member Aruna Roy termed the Aadhaar unique identity project "an invasive act" and warned the UID data "will facilitate communal targeting of certain communities".

Magsaysay award winner Roy said, "The UID is a dangerous thing. I'm shocked minorities and other communities are not boycotting it." Roy was speaking at an RTI seminar held at the International Centre Goa, Dona Paula.

sum · Post by **sum** » 18 Oct 2011 08:53

Magsaysay award winner Roy said, "The UID is a dangerous thing. I'm shocked minorities and other communities are not boycotting it." Roy was speaking at an RTI seminar held at the International Centre Goa, Dona Paula.

Our country is truely fcuked despite all the goody-goody stuff in BR about how we will overcome, given the kind of people we have as advisers to the powers that be..

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 18 Oct 2011 09:00

Yup. Skull cap, burqa, full beard streaked with mehndi, Urdu language, familial residence in specific neighbourhoods from pre-independence times etc.... those things could characterize any community at all! But "minority" name on a UID, THAT's going to mark somebody for targeted persecution by the terroristic Hindoooo right-wing.

I didn't know they gave Magsaysay awards for being "special".

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 18 Oct 2011 09:02

sum wrote:
Magsaysay award winner Roy said, "The UID is a dangerous thing. I'm shocked minorities and other communities are not boycotting it." Roy was speaking at an RTI seminar held at the International Centre Goa, Dona Paula.
Our country is truely fcuked despite all the goody-goody stuff in BR about how we will overcome, given the kind of people we have as advisers to the powers that be..

The problem is the greatest fear of some in the powers that be is Transperency and full information available to the Public. In the name of Minority Aruna Roy is echoing those fears.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 18 Oct 2011 09:11

Tamang wrote:Magsaysay award winner Roy said, "The UID is a dangerous thing. I'm shocked minorities and other communities are not boycotting it." Roy was speaking at an RTI seminar held at the International Centre Goa, Dona Paula.

And this from supposedly THE key advisory panel to the UPA government ?? Can this forum still call out morons for what they are - or does this affect the sensibilities of those who can't stand 'demonization' of the government ?

sum · Post by **sum** » 18 Oct 2011 09:22

In which other part of this country will a serving IPS officer call his CM as a "common criminal"? Hint: fascism, anti-minority etc...
Modi is a common criminal, he should be treated like one

Narendra Modi may be the chief minister of Gujarat. But as far as 2002 riots are concerned, he is a criminal, he has to be treated like a common criminal and that should be his fate eventually," he told reporters after his release from Sabarmati prison.

"As a police officer, I see him (Modi) as a criminal and I don't have any doubts about it," he added.

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 18 Oct 2011 09:47

Sanjiv bhatt is the toast of the season, every TV channel granting him an interview, wow congrats on becoming a celebrity

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 18 Oct 2011 18:17

people often fault the indian govt for being mithaiwalla

but Israel seems to have released 1000 palestinians in exchange for 1 soldier.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 18 Oct 2011 18:48

sum wrote:
Magsaysay award winner Roy said, "The UID is a dangerous thing. I'm shocked minorities and other communities are not boycotting it." Roy was speaking at an RTI seminar held at the International Centre Goa, Dona Paula.
Our country is truely fcuked despite all the goody-goody stuff in BR about how we will overcome, given the kind of people we have as advisers to the powers that be..

sum , UID is not unstoppable as I understand it. As of now 3.5 cr UID has been issued. Though it would not be able to meet the deadline, yet it has full sanction and blessing of highest political authority. And Intelligence agencies are obviously seeking details, esp biometrics.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 19 Oct 2011 11:31

US issues travel alert warning of terror attacks in India

Marut · Post by **Marut** » 19 Oct 2011 13:55

Singha wrote:people often fault the indian govt for being mithaiwalla

but Israel seems to have released 1000 palestinians in exchange for 1 soldier.

Singha saar, you know very well that even if 1 of these 1000s gets back into terror business, yehudis will punch their tickets. How many tickets have we punched since IC814. That fatso from Bahawalpur is roaming free plotting attacks against us as are the other two enjoying state hospitality from the ISI turds.

In any hostage situation, it is very likely that some terrorists will have to be let out to secure the hostages. That in itself is not the issue but the lack of chasing the released ones and neutralizing them which has been sorely lacking from our side. All we have done so far is distribute dosas to the pakis. No wonder we are mithaiwalas

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 20 Oct 2011 05:42

Marut, dheeraj rakhna. Its a different fight.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 22 Oct 2011 10:52

Dawood’s aide released on bail in London

Iqbal Mirchi, a right-hand man of underworld don Dawood Ibrahim and one of the accused in the 1993 Mumbai serial blasts, has been released on bail by a London Court.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... 555203.ece

Did GoI try to get him?

sum · Post by **sum** » 22 Oct 2011 17:12

^^Indian efforts( if there were any in the first place) postponed for few years as per the below article:

Dawood aide Mirchi to be deported to India in 2012?

The Central Bureau of Investigation dossier (external link) on Iqbal Memon, popularly known as Iqbal Mirchi or Iqbal Merchant, describes him as a man with a height of 168 cm, black hair, black eyes and a mole on his left arm. Sources in Indian intelligence agencies describe him as the right hand man of fugitive underworld don Dawood Ibrahim. It was in 1994 that the CBI had issued an Interpol notice against Mirchi, one of India's most wanted. India has sought his extradition the past, but it was turned down.

"India tried extraditing him earlier on the basis of two cases but failed. After that no new case has been filed against Mirchi. According to the rulebook, the same cases cannot be taken up again to seek extradition once they have been rejected by the country from where the accused is wanted. So on what basis will India extradite him?" asked a senior police official.

However, all hope is not lost for India, as there is still a chance of Mirchi's deportation. Currently, he does not own any valid passport as Indian authorities had rejected his renewal application. Moreover, the leave to reside indefinitely granted by the British Home Office to Mirchi was cancelled a while ago. As of now his permission to live in London expires in 2012. In event that his application for renewal is not accepted by the British authorities then according to the law, Mirchi will be deported to his home country.

According to Merchant, CBI's Special Task Force looking into the 1993 serial bomb blasts case tried really hard to implicate Mirchi. "But they could not find any evidence and eventually also held a press conference clearing his name."

Mirchi has been living in London's posh Essex town of Hornchurch for the past 16 years. He is said to be shuttling between London and Dubai. His 'permission to reside indefinitely in UK' was cancelled some time ago following one of his Dubai trips, say sources.

In London, Mirchi is said to have an established business of rice mills and has set up a chain of five star hotels including Imperial Suites in Dubai.

In April 1995, Scotland Yard sleuths arrested Mirchi and raided his Essex town residence on charges of drugs and terrorism. The investigation, which ended five years later, exonerated him of any criminal activity and earned him indefinite leave to remain in UK from 2001. This leave was cancelled shortly after his name figured in the top 50 global drug barons list released by the United Nations. He has also been described by the United Nations as a 'senior figure in the D company'

Merchant retorts, "If Mirchi was wanted globally then what is stopping US and UK from arresting him. They tried it once, they found no evidence."

It is also learnt that Mirchi has written to authorities in the United States and United Nation to clear his name.

Am sure UK will get its just desserts soon for all the skulduggery of all these years!

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 22 Oct 2011 17:22

^^ All Mirchi has to say is, if he goes back, India/D Gang/Mickey Mouse will kill me, I am not leaving. They can't force him to leave because of Human rights.

abhischekcc · Post by **abhischekcc** » 22 Oct 2011 20:17

UID (or anything similar) will allow the central govt to provide relief/subsidies/money directly to individuals, thereby completely cutting out the middlemen called NGOs. It will destroy a lot of parasite families who are dependent on 'managing' this largess. Aruna Roy comes from the NGO background, hence her problem with UID, which she is couching in politically correct terminology.

On a related note, I wonder why NGOs (especially international ones) have not been included in the purview of the Lokpal bill? Because the members of Team Anna all come from this background - they all run NGOs. But they do not want to practice the transparency that they desperately want others to practice.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 24 Oct 2011 05:38

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... p-Dog.html
India to deploy 'Bomb Drop Dog'
India is to deploy a canine 007 in the war against terror – the 'Bomb Drop Dog' trained to plant explosive devices and hidden cameras to kill and capture insurgents.

Specialist handlers from the Indo-Tibetan Border Police have trained a team of six Labradors to carry explosives in their teeth, sneak into terrorists' lairs, drop remote-controlled bombs, hide secret cameras, understand instructions in English and Hindi and interpret body language.
They will be formally inducted into the force at a ceremony in Chandigarh, in Punjab, where they were trained at India's National Training Centre for Dogs. Their deployment as "dogs of war" is the latest in a long history of using animals in military conflicts. The Russians trained "anti-tank dogs" in the 1930s and used them against German tanks during the Second World War. Explosives were strapped to Alsatians, which crawled under enemy tanks and were supposed to bite through the straps to leave the bomb to explode on a timer. The animals were later transformed into "suicide" dogs when their handlers decided it was more efficient to detonate the explosives while still attached. More recently the US Navy Seals deployed a dog as part of the raid in which Osama bin Laden was killed in Pakistan last May. India's military appears to have taken the art to the next level by training the dogs to carry bombs and recording equipment in their teeth and carefully place them before retreating ahead of detonation.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 24 Oct 2011 08:43

From the Dr. Jihad article by Praveen Swami

Ever since 2005 though, it has become evident that Islamist student radicals, motivated by anger against communalism and the state, have been at the cutting edge of terrorism.

Oxymoron

sum · Post by **sum** » 24 Oct 2011 08:56

^^ Whether it is Kerala or J&K or the NE where there is zilch Hindu dominance and the muslims are in full power, we still hear the same old BS argument of how "Hindu communalism" caused these straightforward dudes to turn into bombers.

Disgusting.