Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011

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Prasad wrote: Didn't they perfect the ground penetrating radar built on sats from long long ago? They published pictures of underground rivulets/water bodies in the Nile delta as a proof of capability. Heck there were pictures published of the land bridge between india and sl sometime back too. Tunnels? :rotfl:
They even miniaturized this technology and sent on Cassini to probe Saturns moons. It can detect underground oceans and rivulets 20 Km deep from a satellite the size of an 3 wheeler auto-rickshaw.
Chinese really screwed Pakis big time. :rotfl:
The entire nuclear detergent is finished!
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abhijitm wrote:asked karzai to speak to US on pakistan bonn participation\
Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani said on Wednesday that he had asked Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai to speak to the United States (US) regarding Pakistan’s participation at the Bonn Conference on Afghanistan.
but what is Karzai supposed to speak to US that pakis are not openly saying these days, hain? :mrgreen:
So predictable. None of security, sovereignty, integrity, honour, dignity and self-respect will be "assured" but still 400% guaranteed Pakistan will attend the conference.
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[CT*]
Fact - 24 caskets buried.
Fact - Kayani and the other military brass offered prayers.

Question: What is in the caskets?
Question: Where are the PM, President and the 240 or so relatives (10 per dead 'jihadi')of the dead people.

May be this is all a show for more money and no one died.
[\CT]

*conspiracy theory
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Pakistani students visiting Mumbai voice peace plea
What most Indians don’t get at home is a soft image of the Pakistan. As one journalist said, “Bollywood crosses the border, and brings people like Shahrukh Khan and Amitabh Bachchan to Pakistan. What is needed is cultural export from Pakistan (beyond the musicians and singers), so that people see the other side of the story, that the news media fails to bring to them.”
:shock: Haven't we seen enough already? :roll:
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No fresh clash between Pak Army, Nato forces: ISPR

RAWALPINDI: There was no fresh clash between Pakistani troops and NATO force on Pak-Afghan border on Wednesday, an Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) Spokesman said here.

He also contradicted a news report published in a US newspaper in this regard. ?
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I don't know! I don't think there were any deaths of Pakistani soldiers in the NATO attack! Those 24 fatalities is just made up stuff. If it was true, then Pakistanis should show the corpses!

Otherwise it is just more lies by the Pakistanis!

:twisted:
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pgbhat wrote:Pakistani students visiting Mumbai voice peace plea
What most Indians don’t get at home is a soft image of the Pakistan. As one journalist said, “Bollywood crosses the border, and brings people like Shahrukh Khan and Amitabh Bachchan to Pakistan. What is needed is cultural export from Pakistan (beyond the musicians and singers), so that people see the other side of the story, that the news media fails to bring to them.”
:shock: Haven't we seen enough already? :roll:
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I hope the morons blockade NATO thinking that 49.774488% of NATO supplies go through Pakistan, while entirely forgetting that 100% of Pakistan's supplies go through Karachi port.
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What kind of a Pakjabi name is Sherry? Isn't it wajab ul cutlet to be named after sharab?
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^ Sherry == Shehrbano
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Apologies for the re-post, just saw that Archanji just posted it in the BENIS thread.
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Re: the "permanent" closure of the overland NATO supply route to Afghanistan. C. Fair in her interview brought up a good point: a substantial Pashtun trucking mafia tends to lose out on a lot of profits if the TSPA keeps up the closure. This is a good thing. Unemployed truckers and toll-collectors will probably take to dishing out IED mubaraks instead (what other kaam-dhandha do they have?)

It is worth noting that the Pakis have not closed off overflight rights to NATO. This is probably a "tactically brilliant" version of "calibrated escalation" by Slumbad (do not entirely blockade NATO supplies but substantially raise the supply costs by making NATO bring in everything by air.)

The question arises, from where do these NATO supply flights originate? DG? Gulf?

A Chanakyan thing for India to do right now, would be to offer Indian facilities (and also Indian-sourced supplies like foodstuffs, low-tech spare parts etc.) for the NATO air LOC into Afghanistan. Is it cheaper for NATO to ship supplies into Diego Garcia or fly them directly to Bagram from Qatar? Or to work with India... say by USN shipping supplies into Mumbai, said supplies being escorted safely to Ambala by road/rail and then flown to Bagram? (Flying from India to Bagram could perhaps even be carried out by IAF :mrgreen:?)

Such a move would help out NATO in terms of costs, and they would owe us.

It would be a source of profit for Indian suppliers who contributed.

It would turn back the Pakis' tactical brilliance on them (the Pakis currently calculate that by forcing NATO to use the more expensive air corridor exclusively, they impose costs on NATO and discourage US military incursions into Pakistan; if we step in to decrease NATO's costs it cancels the Pakis' leverage with this "calibrated escalation.")

Very importantly: it would establish a precedent for regular military air traffic from Indian airspace crossing over POK/NA and going into Afghanistan. If the IAF gets to do this, nothing like it. However, even if it's the USAF... it introduces a vital and potentially advantageous new element into the POK/NA kettle that Pakistan has sought to vitiate by inviting the PRC's military presence there.

Let the TSPA and PLA in POK/NA live with the spectre of daily air missions from India buzzing overhead. What is Islamabad going to do... shoot down aircraft carrying NATO supplies? If they do that, they have effectively played their last trump card of denying NATO any overflight rights, and their "calibrated leverage" is gone.

Of course, once this becomes a busy busy air corridor, it can be used to quietly send through aircraft on other kinds of missions as well... remember May 2nd :mrgreen:
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Overt aid to Pakistan (compiled by Congressional Research Service) reports that Pakis have been paid 22 Billion $ between 2002 and 2011. (warning PDF) http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/pakaid.pdf

Does not include loan writeoffs, IMF assistance arm twisted by Unkil and whatever money was paid covertly.
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i suspect that they base out of qatar and bahrain - where they ship in and fly out. its probably just as cheap to fly from qatar to baghram via baluchistan as it is to ship and fly from mumbai-ambala
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What if the flying post Mumbai were done by the IAF (or by Indian "civilian contractors" in Hercs or IL-76s) from Ambala or even from Mumbai itself? Could we perhaps do it cheaper? Could we provide port facilities and overland transport cheaper than what it costs an American ship to offload at Qatar plus an American transport plane to fly to Bagram from there?

I imagine labour is a significant portion of the costs in all this. The cost of the overland route from Karachi was certainly inflated with major baksheesh to various regional strongmen, trucking mafia and of course the jernails themselves.

Also, could it reduce costs for NATO if a substantial portion of the supplies were sourced in India?
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Rudradev ji,

I am glad you bring this up.

I too had suggested earlier that we provide USA with an aerial bridge between say Pathankot and Bagram, through J&K, Gilgit-Baltistan and Wakhan Corridor.
RajeshA wrote:Giving the Americans a whole air base in India is of course out of the question, but use of an Indian Air Base for refueling and maintenance of American aircraft with a small American ground crew can be discussed. May be with time letting the Americans load their aircraft in India is also possible! Medical treatment of injured personnel in India can also be considered. Except for maintenance of aircraft, I am in favor of using Indian personnel for logistics and medical care.

If American supply lines for the air corridor are routed through India, and American aircraft are allowed to reload, refuel, repair in say Pathankot, then the air hop over J&K+PoK+Wakhan Air Corridor into Afghanistan/Pushtunistan is not really that big!
It would definitely help to bolster our claims on PoK and also contribute to our eventual control of the region.
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Recall Sept 19th 2011? Mushy immediately offered all access to US fearing that India would gain an advantage! The minute India offers a way out TSP will double back and offer themselves again.

Msuhy told Rediff "india ne sab khaam barbad kar diya!"
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Then the US will owe us one for simply reiterating the offer :mrgreen:
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Us doesn't owe anybody anytime. Let them sort it out themselves and come after that.
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And lose the chance to establish a long-lasting air corridor from India to Kabul? In what way will that harm us to attempt? Possession is 9/10 of the law, and currently the TSPA and PLA have possession of POK/NA. Starting an air corridor over POK/NA, even under the pretext of supplying NATO, is at least a first move in the right direction. Once we start regularly sending flights over that airspace, it will steadily erode the Paki claim of sow-virginity over that territory. Note that NATO has as much right to fly over POK/NA, under international law, as China has to base troops or undertake construction there.

Otherwise we can sit quiet and let China have POK/NA, because we don't want to help out NATO.
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SSridhar wrote:
johneeG wrote:I find it hard to believe that pakis really care so much about honour and dignity. Their actions indicate that they are purely an opportunistic bunch.
Everything in Pakistan has a price, including H&D, sovereignty, respect and whatever else Gilani saheb so eloquently listed.
Echandee has a pisko function, especially in a feudal culture. It provides a facade and dramabaazi to reinforce the abduls' impression that the ashrafs are better persons and deserve to be in charge. That is why pukes are obsessed with it; it is their stock-in-trade.
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RD, The minute India is involved TSP and US will make up and it will be back to square one.
Right now they are at odds.
Indian offer will make them patch up which is not useful for India.
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Errm, we could provide them options to refuel in our bases. Thats about the max we could do. Anything more like basing personnel is just asking for it. No thanks. PoK may be our target but not by letting the americans in.
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Husain Haqqani versus Pak Army
By Khaled Ahmed

another doctrine — that of ‘strategic depth’, which came to grief with 9/11 — to early formulations of strategy. Because Pakistan did not have geographical depth when militarily confronted by a thousand-mile deep India, the army posited ‘fusion of the defence of Afghanistan and Pakistan’. Haqqani traces it, not to the timeline of the Pakistan Army’s decision to support the Taliban, but to Aslam Siddiqi’s 1960 book, Pakistan Seeks Security. Siddiqi leans on Fraser-Tytler’s suggestion that the two states be fused into one. Siddiqi’s typically military addendum to the theory was that, since, it can’t be done by force (‘fusion will lead to confusion’), Islamic ideology may be put to use.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/299569/husa ... -pak-army/
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When did Sir Kerr Fraser Tytler write his suggestion? Was it in the 19th century or in 20th century?
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Rudradev wrote:Re: the "permanent" closure of the overland NATO supply route to Afghanistan. C. Fair in her interview brought up a good point: a substantial Pashtun trucking mafia tends to lose out on a lot of profits if the TSPA keeps up the closure. This is a good thing. Unemployed truckers and toll-collectors will probably take to dishing out IED mubaraks instead (what other kaam-dhandha do they have?)

It is worth noting that the Pakis have not closed off overflight rights to NATO. This is probably a "tactically brilliant" version of "calibrated escalation" by Slumbad (do not entirely blockade NATO supplies but substantially raise the supply costs by making NATO bring in everything by air.)

The question arises, from where do these NATO supply flights originate? DG? Gulf?

A Chanakyan thing for India to do right now, would be to offer Indian facilities (and also Indian-sourced supplies like foodstuffs, low-tech spare parts etc.) for the NATO air LOC into Afghanistan. Is it cheaper for NATO to ship supplies into Diego Garcia or fly them directly to Bagram from Qatar? Or to work with India... say by USN shipping supplies into Mumbai, said supplies being escorted safely to Ambala by road/rail and then flown to Bagram? (Flying from India to Bagram could perhaps even be carried out by IAF :mrgreen:?)

Such a move would help out NATO in terms of costs, and they would owe us.

It would be a source of profit for Indian suppliers who contributed.

It would turn back the Pakis' tactical brilliance on them (the Pakis currently calculate that by forcing NATO to use the more expensive air corridor exclusively, they impose costs on NATO and discourage US military incursions into Pakistan; if we step in to decrease NATO's costs it cancels the Pakis' leverage with this "calibrated escalation.")

Very importantly: it would establish a precedent for regular military air traffic from Indian airspace crossing over POK/NA and going into Afghanistan. If the IAF gets to do this, nothing like it. However, even if it's the USAF... it introduces a vital and potentially advantageous new element into the POK/NA kettle that Pakistan has sought to vitiate by inviting the PRC's military presence there.

Let the TSPA and PLA in POK/NA live with the spectre of daily air missions from India buzzing overhead. What is Islamabad going to do... shoot down aircraft carrying NATO supplies? If they do that, they have effectively played their last trump card of denying NATO any overflight rights, and their "calibrated leverage" is gone.

Of course, once this becomes a busy busy air corridor, it can be used to quietly send through aircraft on other kinds of missions as well... remember May 2nd :mrgreen:
+1,000,000...

Would our PM, shroud and useless beta even care?

They will be worried about vote bank.

The WKKs, Chinese servants (COMMIES, MBKs) will cry like babies and anti-national CON crowd will never have guts to offer such a thing.
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viajyk, Last time when NDA offered the same thing the TSP and US became so tight that TSP was able to attack the J&K Assy and the Lok Sabha in 2001.

Right now they are fighting and hopefully will lead to even more bad feelings. It has noting to do with guts etc but cold calculation.
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ramana wrote:viajyk, Last time when NDA offered the same thing the TSP and US became so tight that TSP was able to attack the J&K Assy and the Lok Sabha in 2001.

Right now they are fighting and hopefully will lead to even more bad feelings. It has noting to do with guts etc but cold calculation.
+1 hillary and barak have been bleating like sympathetic sheep ever since Mullen opened his mouth, it would be good for american abduls in election season to watch their leaders being squeezed and embarassed by paki tantrums. Now is not the time to help out khan.

If our netas decide they want an air corridor, the military will get it for them any time. Without political will, courage and determination, there is no point in even thinking about aggressive steps, it will end up as half-hearted and so will lead to costly failure.

No aim is too audacious when political will and nerve is there. We have seen it 40 years ago this same season.
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It is also known as geo politics
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Someone should say hi to this Mr. Brent, who wrote a letter saying thus:
Pakistan played footsie with the Soviet Union and Red China behind our backs throughout the Cold War. Pakistan funded and set up the Taliban and hid Osama bin Laden in plain sight for years, all the while feeding us very well-crafted, false intelligence to throw us off the trail.

Pakistanis have never been an ally and never will be. They do not secretly help us; they secretly snicker behind our backs. Everyone in America seems to know this except for the pointy heads in Washington.:D If the Soviet Union with its thousands upon thousands of nuclear warheads was not “too nuclear to fail,” then how is Pakistan? What is being advocated with Pakistan is the Neville Chamberlain School of Appeasement.

Pakistan is an enemy and low-rate one at that. As such, it should be kicked to the curb, or kicked in the teeth when it steps out of line.

J. KEVIN BRENT

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Abbu Abbu< Main hoon Daboo
Pakistan informs China about non-participation in Bonn Conference
Pakistan’s Ambassador to China, Masood Khan has conveyed the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs about his country’s federal Cabinet’s decision of not participating in the Bonn Conference on Afghanistan.
Pakistan Cabinet took this decision Tuesday in response to the NATO/ISAF attacks on Pakistani check-posts last week in which 24 soldiers were killed and 13 injured.
The Ambassador also informed the Chinese side about the other important decisions and measures announced by the Cabinet which met under the chairmanship of Prime Minister, Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani.
Pakistan’s Cabinet reviewed the evolving situation after the November 26 attack.
Since the attack, Pakistan has been in touch with the international community, particularly with China, regarding the inconsequences of these attacks.The Ambassador underlined the Chinese Foreign Ministry that Pakistan attaches highest importance to stability and peace in Afghanistan and supports an Afghan-led and Afghan-owned reconciliation process.He conveyed Pakistan Cabinet’s strong desire that the international community should reaffirm its support for peace and development in Afghanistan.Pakistan and China always coordinate closely before major international conferences. Both countries aspire to have peace, stability, national reconciliation and economic reconstruction in Afghanistan.
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Pakistan resumes some cooperation: Nato
Pakistan Resume natural Position
KABUL: Pakistan resumed some cooperation with US-led forces in Afghanistan following Nato strikes that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers by working with the coalition to prevent another cross-border incident from escalating, a spokesman said Wednesday.Pakistan is still outraged by the soldiers’ deaths and has retaliated by closing its Afghan border crossings to Nato supplies, demanding the US vacate an air base used by American drones and boycotting an international conference aimed at stabilizing Afghanistan.But Nato said Islamabad communicated with the alliance to prevent an exchange of artillery fire late Tuesday from turning into another international incident.German Brig. Gen. Carsten Jacobson, a Nato spokesman in Kabul, expressed hope that Pakistan’s cooperation in resolving the incident in eastern Afghanistan’s Paktia province signaled the two sides could recover from the recent tragedy.He did not provide more details about targets or who was doing the shooting but said no damage or injuries were reported.”We are continuing operations and it is of great importance that the incidents of Saturday, as tragic as they were, do not disrupt our capability to operate in the border area and cooperate with the Pakistani side,” said Jacobson.
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Acharya wrote:It is also known as geo politics
Yes, Acharya ji: and all players are well aware of the possibilities and consiquences. But timing is everything. And the timing is not right. The last time it was just right, 911 happened. That corridor to Afghanistan has to be more than an air corridor, and it is essential that opening it initiate from Afghanistan. Its a matter of time and timing, but will happen for sure, once most of the Khan leave.
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Pakis are getting more and more good press:

K.T. McFarland:
It's Time to End Our Relationship With Pakistan

Terry Glavin:
Pakistan and the U.S. can finally stop pretending
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ramana wrote:On the contrary it could help the Bonn participants take effective decisions to bring about peace in Afghanistan without the supporters of terrorists at the conference. The TSP is the one that supports, sustains and strategises for the Taliban. They don't understand that they get invited in the faint hope that will dissuade them from their support to the TSP Taliban.
Yes, that's true. Pakistan is overplaying its hand. Has been doing so ever since it was born (through C-section and all that). Its perceived 'geo-strategic location' card has been abused and is losing its sheen and the final nail will be if the Bonn talks and the follow-up meetings take place without Pakistan. The Afghan situation is entirely because of Pakistan. Since 1947, Pakistan has been interfering with that country. The US has taken so long to realize that the problem itself cannot be part of the solution. Pakistan needs to be fixed to solve the Afghan problem and terrorism in the Indian subcontinent in particular and the region and beyond in general. I hope that the Mohmand attack is the precursor to that.
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Ha ha. We know that the world is round and whole, and the tulips are blooming and the sunflowers are sunning, when Paagal Sehgal admiringly hails the wisdom of this cockroach:
To quote M K Bhadrakumar from a recent article, “Pakistan’s doublespeak (about drones) may be ending. Future US drone operations may have to be conducted factoring in the possibility that Pakistan might regard them as violations of its air space.” What he went on to say was more meaningful, “Washington may have seriously erred if the intention on Friday night was to draw out the Pakistani military into a retaliatory mode and then to hit it with a sledgehammer and make it crawl on its knees pleading mercy.”
http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDe ... 0321&Cat=9
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A US lawmaker has asked the defence secretary to the review the command and control protocols of Nato as an air attack by the alliance forces left 24 Pakistani soldiers dead last weekend.

In a letter to US defence secretary Leon Panetta, which was released to the press, Dennis Kucinich called for a strong support for "full and transparent investigation" of the attack on sovereign Pakistani territory and demanded a full review of "command and control protocols" which led to the disaster.

"We cannot be successful in securing peace and security in the region alone. I urge you to ensure full US participation in and cooperation with a full, impartial and transparent investigation into the airstrike.

"It is critical that those in the Nato and the International Security Assistance Force (IASF) be held accountable for any actions that may have resulted in the death of 24 innocent Pakistani soldiers," Kucinich said. :rotfl:

The response of the US to this attack, he said, will be critical to maintaining America's vital relationship with Pakistan and to the security of its troops in Afghanistan.

"As you know, Saturday's airstrike that resulted in the death of 24 innocent Pakistani soldiers has further strained the US-Pakistan relationship and increased anti-US sentiment abroad," he said.

"Reports indicate that US-led coalition forces operating in Afghanistan are bracing themselves for reprisal attacks. :((
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jrjrao wrote:Ha ha. We know that the world is round and whole, and the tulips are blooming and the sunflowers are sunning, when Paagal Sehgal admiringly hails the wisdom of this cockroach:
http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDe ... 0321&Cat=9
I think MKB has achieved his ambition, that of getting some traction among Pakistani commentators. Jai Ho.
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ta tadaa

White House asks Pakistan to attend the Bonn conference

No solid proof of slain Pokis
Nato apologizes, but not acceptable to Poks
American Gen not apologetic.
Poks say will boycott Bonn
Asks UK & Karzai to mediate
Then "innocent" downhill by unkil
Now WH asks poks to be in Bonn

I'm hopeful like Partha that Pakis WILL attend Bonn conference. What did anybody achieve? who got what? in this whole episode?

what chutiyapa is this? :rotfl:
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