Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 2011

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 16 Dec 2011 23:14

ramana wrote:Hamid Gul's whine.... They mentally belong to India.

You mean...."India belongs to them". There is a whole dialog going on in paki deaf and dumb fora about how the evil yindoos cheated them out of the name "India", with "Indian Restaurants" actually offering paki food but owned by the SDREs.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 16 Dec 2011 23:16

what a drama happening in pakistan about absconding ten percenti. Groper says he was shifted to Dubai because of security threat! I doubt while saying this he ever realized how humiliating for his country this is!! And now there is a rumor of article 47 getting invoked against 10%

Article 47:

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47. Removal [22][or impeachment] of President. 
[22A](1) Notwithstanding anything contained in the Constitution, the President may, in accordance with the provisions of this Article, be removed from office on the ground of physical or mental incapacity or impeached on a charge of violating the Constitution or gross misconduct.
(2) Not less than one-half of the total membership of either House may give to the Speaker of the National Assembly or, as the case may be, the Chairman written notice of its intention to move a resolution for the removal of, or, as the case may be, to impeach, the President; and such notice shall set out the particulars of his incapacity or of the charge against him.]
(3) If a notice under clause (2) is received by the Chairman, he shall transmit it forthwith to the Speaker.
(4) The Speaker shall, within three days of the receipt of a notice under clause (2) or clause (3), cause a copy of the notice to be transmitted to the President.
(5) The Speaker shall summon the two Houses to meet in a joint sitting not earlier than seven days and not later than fourteen days after the receipt of the notice by him.
(6) The joint sitting may investigate or cause to be investigated the ground or the charge upon which the notice is founded.
(7) The President shall have the right to appear and be represented during the investigation, if any, and before the joint sitting.
(8) If, after consideration of the result of the investigation, if any, a resolution is passed at the joint sitting by the votes of not less than two-thirds of the total membership of [23][Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament)] declaring that the President is unfit to hold the office due to incapacity or is guilty of violating the Constitution or of gross misconduct, the President shall cease to hold office immediately on the passing of the resolution.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 16 Dec 2011 23:25

pres come home

Mr Zardari must know that he can simply not afford to leave his return to Pakistan open-ended. His own party`s prime minister, Yousuf Raza Gilani, stood on the floor of the Senate on Wednesday and appealed to parliamentarians to ensure that the assemblies complete their term. Why? What threat was Mr Gilani hinting at? And the prime minister also indulged in some conspiratorial talk of his own, suggesting that were Mr Zardari to have been admitted to a Pakistani hospital the president`s life could be in danger. Taken on top of the talk by PML-N leader Nawaz Sharif that democracy should not be derailed, it amounts to something quite serious when the country`s top civilian political leaders are hinting at the possibility of an interruption of the democratic process.

see the peculiar way of referring to their president! Mr. Zardari, not president zardari. However paki media always ref Gen Kayani, Gen Pasha

so much for the respect of democracy.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 16 Dec 2011 23:26

The letter to Kosygin which RajeshG mentioned above on Dec. 12th is a classic. Read it all. Apparently the writer has written before to Kosygin, but he failed to reply

The ad for Jehad donation on Dec. 17 is a masterpiece of ready made propagandu ... very useful.

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 16 Dec 2011 23:34

anupmisra wrote:
ramana wrote:Hamid Gul's whine.... They mentally belong to India.
You mean...."India belongs to them". There is a whole dialog going on in paki deaf and dumb fora about how the evil yindoos cheated them out of the name "India", with "Indian Restaurants" actually offering paki food but owned by the SDREs.

It also illustrates the 'separate electorate' mentality that BK talked about. Incidentally, this is not the first time this bizarre mindset has been displayed. Both Gul and that toad Mirza Aslam Beg have 'advocated' that both Pakistan and India nuke the US in case they invade Iran!.

I knew marrying first cousins lead to idiocy but this paki nation seems to have gone to a whole new (down) level.

RajeshG · Post by **RajeshG** » 16 Dec 2011 23:58

http://www.docstrangelove.com/uploads/1 ... ly_war.pdf

Military spokesmen here have been asked repeatedly for some indication of Pakistan's casualties in the last four days and tonite one replied :

I have asked our people that question and as a matter of fact the answer is that there are no losses. In the pursuit of Jihad [Moslem Holy War] nobody dies; he lives forever.

AoA..

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 17 Dec 2011 00:14

Apparently Ashphuck met with Groper in the presence of the attorney general for 3 hours and it was all pappi-jhappi after that. Wonder what is cooking.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 17 Dec 2011 00:20

RK Laxman on Paki echandee after their surrender.

Shaashtanga · Post by **Shaashtanga** » 17 Dec 2011 00:27

Vivek K wrote:Indira Gandhi - the only Indian politician with b$lls!

B@11$ of titanium I say.... Raul is Mrs'G's descendent, I hope one day in future when he gets the throne the Kali DNA passed onto him comes out from dormancy and cuts rest of the porkistan to size but maybe the male members of nehru / gandhi clan are useless when it comes to showing some cojones so instead of Raul, Priyanka shud get the throne.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 17 Dec 2011 00:30

Shaashtanga wrote:
Vivek K wrote:Indira Gandhi - the only Indian politician with b$lls!
B@11$ of titanium I say.... Raul is Mrs'G's descendent, I hope one day in future when he gets the throne the Kali DNA passed onto him comes out from dormancy and cuts rest of the porkistan to size but maybe the male members of nehru / gandhi clan are useless when it comes to showing some cojones so instead of Raul, Priyanka shud get the throne.

BS of Paki class. The Kali gene of IG is native to Bharat not to their family blood stream.

joygoswami · Post by **joygoswami** » 17 Dec 2011 00:41

Brother Turkey Shows Their Brotherly Love To Bakis.

http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-news ... rom-Turkey

Shaashtanga · Post by **Shaashtanga** » 17 Dec 2011 00:43

BS of Paki class. The Kali gene of IG is native to Bharat not to their family blood stream.

RamaY you can be civil about it, no need for such blatant disregard of others thought process.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 17 Dec 2011 00:53

ramana wrote:Hamid Gul's whine reflects the Paki idea that they are an unattached part of India. They got a state but are not a nation really. They mentally belong to India.
All is still not lost. They can have the modern Millat status of Art 370. The alternative its to become slaves of Pakhtuns and return to Ghorid days.

Ham Gul is on record stating Pauperland is the strategic deapth of India. He thinks the existence of TSp is a favor to India.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 17 Dec 2011 01:00

Militants attack Pakistan army; 21 die in clash
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501712_162- ... -in-clash/

AP) PARACHINAR, Pakistan — A local government official says militants set off a roadside bomb near a Pakistani army convoy in a tribal region close to the Afghan border, sparking clashes that killed one soldier and 20 militants.Wajid Khan says the incident took place in Khanki village in the Upper Orakzai region on Friday.
He says 25 soldiers were wounded in the militants' attack. He says the troops repelled the attack, surrounded and killed 20 militants.The region is home to insurgents loyal to Pakistani Taliban chief Hakimullah Mehsud.
Some insurgent commanders in Pakistan have claimed to be in peace talks with the government recently. Others have denied any negotiations, as has the government

( So Paks are following Indian tradition of considering 21 as auspicious number)

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 17 Dec 2011 01:10

jrjrao wrote:Just to recall some of CH's writings:

from page 1 of every Paki thread such as this:
On the Frontier of Apocalypse by Christopher Hitchens

Then, after the horror of Mumbai:
Our Friends in Bombay-- We must stand by our most important ally

And after the day when OBL decided to finally swim with the sea weed and fishes, Hitchens unleashed this:
From Abbottabad to Worse

Of course, many would also recall how on the publication of the last above by Hitchens, Prof. Ms. Whack-Job Unfair threw a frightening fit that almost required mental health hospitalization.

Heard on Radio 4(that is BBC in Europe these days)that he called Henri Kissinger an war criminal and Mother Teresa an Christian Fanatic

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 17 Dec 2011 01:13

SSridhar wrote:
anupmisra wrote:Meanwhile, the paki awam during the course of the war was reading this in their daily newspapers: The Yawn - Dec 4 through Dec 20, 1971. This link may be a keeper.
It indeed is a keeper, and thanks Anup Misra.
The ad for funds in the 16th Dec. paper says, "Victory Belongs to those who Fight for a Right Cause". How true, indeed as Pakistanis were to know very soon !

Remember going through Time Magazine(1971-72) microfilms at American Center Delhi in 1985. There was headline "We were on wrong side"...............on right hand page.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 17 Dec 2011 01:18

US has plenty of concerns with regard to Pakistan: Nuland - Firstpost

“We have been in constant and intense dialogue with our Pakistani counterparts. We understand the concern. Frankly, there’s plenty of concern on the American side as well,” State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland told reporters.

Nuland appeared to be upset that Pakistan has not joined the CENTCOM investigation into the 26 November incident in which 24 Pakistani soldiers were killed in a NATO air strike.

......

“We obviously remain open to that kind of participation. But we also are very firmly committed to understanding what happened here, because we have had in the past similar difficulties coordinating and communicating on the border,” she said.

“We have got to get to the bottom of what happened. We’ve got to learn lessons because, frankly, we need to continue to cooperate here. We can’t — either of us, Pakistan, United States, or Afghanistan, frankly — allow these areas to remain safe havens for terrorists. So we’ve got to work this out and that’s what we’re committed to doing,” Nuland said.

Zardari setting up a presidential camp office in Dubai? - Firstpost

Textbooks of Sind-Balochistan Province in 2020: "Following the footsteps of our beloved prophet Muhammed (PBUH) as done in Hijra, the first president Zardari had temporarily abandoned Punjabi controlled harami beggars to Dubai to preserve the honor and follow the footsteps of Allah........"

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 17 Dec 2011 01:39

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/d0e9ec5e ... z1gjIw6jVH
Pakistan general calls for Zardari probe

Pakistan’s army chief has raised the pressure on Asif Ali Zardari, the embattled president, by calling for a swift investigation into a claim that he sought US help to rein in the country’s powerful generals. The allegation has sparked a furore in Pakistan and threatened to undermine Mr Zardari, who was flown to hospital in Dubai last week for medical treatment, injecting a fresh element of drama into the increasingly febrile political scene.High Underscoring the degree of concern within the security establishment, General Ashfaq Kayani, the powerful head of the army, said in a statement to the Supreme Court that the memo represented an attempt to hurt national security.“I also recommended to the prime minister that time was of the essence and that the earlier we knew the truth the better it would be to address the negative fallout for the country,” Gen Kayani said.The remarks were published on Friday in Pakistani newspapers, which were quoting from Gen Kayani’s deposition to the Supreme Court on Thursday.

a_kumar · Post by **a_kumar** » 17 Dec 2011 01:54

Jhujar wrote: Ham Gul is on record stating Pauperland is the strategic deapth of India. He thinks the existence of TSp is a favor to India.

I think he meant Pland is "strategic moat" for India (If you are referring to his statement about Pakistan being barrier betwen Pashtun and India). He is somewhat correct actually. To make it completely correct, one has to remove the threat moat poses to India and leave it as a passive state of Punjab absorbing the strikes!!

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 17 Dec 2011 02:42

Dunya TV-15-12-2011-Pakistan Railway Crisis

There is no diesel to run trains in Pakistan.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 17 Dec 2011 02:43

Is it safe to post Blaypoy article on xerox khan here?.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 17 Dec 2011 02:46

People like Hamid Gul and Zaid Hamid are actually harming Pakistan more than any one on this planet! Idiots dont even realize it.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 17 Dec 2011 02:53

http://www.playboy.com/magazine/the-sec ... a-q-khan/5
The bizarre playboy.com article that makes a claim that A.Q. Khan sold centrifuge technology to India.

partha · Post by **partha** » 17 Dec 2011 03:23

A_Gupta wrote:http://www.playboy.com/magazine/the-sec ... a-q-khan/5
The bizarre playboy.com article that makes a claim that A.Q. Khan sold centrifuge technology to India.

Oh!!

AQ Khan - from national hero to natshunal zero?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Dec 2011 04:44

Letters to Editor:

Daily Times: http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2011_pg3_7

Leave governance to politicians

Sir: This is with reference to A R Siddiqi’s article, ‘Martial law: adverse hypotheses’ (Daily Times, December 12, 2011). The article is somewhat confusing as the author narrates reasons why a coup is not in the offing even though he hid the sting in the tail literally by not ruling it out either. The author claims that the army faces an external and internal threat too, which is obvious. But what is left unsaid is that the internal threat is the result of the dangerous policies formulated to tackle the external threat. One wonders what role the civilian governments had played in formulating such military doctrines that have severely impacted the sovereignty and stability of Pakistan even as they paid no dividends in wars and conflicts. While agreeing with the author that the army cannot view the rampant crisis as though it is none of its business, the army must also realise that it was its security paradigm that has been the single contributor to the grave situation today, not only for Pakistan but for the entire region as well. It is therefore incumbent upon the army to undo the crisis and subsequently confine itself to professional matters leaving the governance of the country and itself to the elected representatives of the people, however incompetent they may be. The world at large and the neighbours specifically would heave a collective sigh of relief were that to happen.

Thanks & Regards
Subramanyam Sridharan

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 17 Dec 2011 05:07

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 17 Dec 2011 05:10

President Zardari warns of ‘consequences’ if Article 47 imposed
Meet the Future President of Sindustan

President Asif Ali Zardari who is in Dubai for health reasons has said that he was absolutely fine but doctors are not allowing him for travelling. Talking to a senior Pakistani journalist on Friday, the president said that how could Article 47 of the Constitution be imposed on him as he was absolutely fine. “If it is done, then my manifesto will be “Aisay Dastoor ko Main Nahi Manta” (I deny such institution)”, the president was quoted by the journalist as saying.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 17 Dec 2011 05:18

Prime Minister Gilani, Army Chief Kayani discuss mamogate
Kayani Gillani Haqani Kahani

ISLAMABAD: Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani called on Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani at the Prime Minister house on Friday, Geo News reported. The spokesperson for the PM house confirmed that during the three hour long meeting, the PM and COAS discussed issues relating to the memogate scandal. COAS Kayani expressed commitment to the government, while PM Gilani said that the memogate conspiracy would be revealed.Sources add that the army’s response in the memo case was also discussed during the meeting. Both sides agreed that cooperation was required in dealing with numerous challenges being faced by the country. Later Attorney General Maulvi Anwar ul Haq joined the meeting to discuss legal issues. During the meeting it was decided that institutions should fulfill their constitutional roles and responsibilities and this issue should not be taken as a tussle between the government and army.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 17 Dec 2011 05:23

rsingh wrote: Heard on Radio 4(that is BBC in Europe these days)that he called Henri Kissinger an war criminal and Mother Teresa an Christian Fanatic

A seer if ever there was one..

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Dec 2011 05:31

anupmisra wrote:
ramana wrote:Hamid Gul's whine.... They mentally belong to India.
You mean...."India belongs to them". There is a whole dialog going on in paki deaf and dumb fora about how the evil yindoos cheated them out of the name "India", with "Indian Restaurants" actually offering paki food but owned by the SDREs.

Next they will whine about how Indian Army by choosing olive green deprived them of being closer to ummah raiders.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 17 Dec 2011 05:31

anupmisra wrote:
ramana wrote:Hamid Gul's whine.... They mentally belong to India.
You mean...."India belongs to them". There is a whole dialog going on in paki deaf and dumb fora about how the evil yindoos cheated them out of the name "India", with "Indian Restaurants" actually offering paki food but owned by the SDREs.

Naturally. In an era when India was sending out skilled workers to the west Pakis were cooks serving up Indian dishes in Indian restaurants and they now imagine that this is Paki food. The morons.

But apart from the insight that Pakis see themselves as a separate electorate within India I also get the feeling that early generation Pakis really saw their move to Pakistan as a temporary thing - to be reverse when Hindustan fell to them which would happen in short order.

The statement "Hans ke liye Pakistan,lad ke lenge Hindustan" has been taken pretty seriously by Pakturds. Amazing the high opinion they had about themselves a a group compared to youknowwho

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Dec 2011 05:45

Shiv,
Now you get why I call them a kabila or camp. Its a temporary move out of Gangetic plains and Deccan to Indus basin.

a_kumar · Post by **a_kumar** » 17 Dec 2011 05:57

shiv wrote: I also get the feeling that early generation Pakis really saw their move to Pakistan as a temporary thing - to be reverse when Hindustan fell to them which would happen in short order.

ramana wrote: Now you get why I call them a kabila or camp. Its a temporary move out of Gangetic plains and Deccan to Indus basin.

I believe some have seen this as a perfect bait too. In retrospect, this lure was the only solution. There was no other way we could have gotten them out of the way of progressing forward.

If it wasn't for the loss of PoK, it was a prefect arrangement. Price paid would have been some real estate in return for freedom to explore, experiment and lay a foundation.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 17 Dec 2011 05:59

JE Menon wrote:The letter to Kosygin which RajeshG mentioned above on Dec. 12th is a classic. Read it all. Apparently the writer has written before to Kosygin, but he failed to reply

The ad for Jehad donation on Dec. 17 is a masterpiece of ready made propagandu ... very useful.

The support given by Iran, Tunisia and China to Shitland is revealing. And George Bush on 14th December 1971 (as UN ambassador) "warns" India not to go against "world opinion". That means, according to St. George Bush it is good to rape and kill Bangladeshis and that world opinion does not want to put a stop to that.

In dealing with Pakistan, India has continuously had to deal with China and the US as well. But oh - that doesn't matter. Indians r incompetent so they can't deal with Pakistan.

However, that apart, it now makes me laugh to see the Chinese nowadays looking really really stupid with Pakistan as their ally. Just read the glowing messages about Pakistan that come from China. Funny stuff.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 17 Dec 2011 06:02

ramana wrote:Shiv,
Now you get why I call them a kabila or camp. Its a temporary move out of Gangetic plains and Deccan to Indus basin.

Absolutely. Very apt. Also explains why they really did not even consider actually acting like a "nation" in improving the lot of the people.

A sudden pisko doubt occurred after I posted the above reply. The same incompetent Paki army is the one that Pakis worship - the same Pakis who also worship the rapists Ghori, Ghaznavi et al. as their heroes. There must be some link here but I am unable to figure it out.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Dec 2011 06:09

PRC first made alliance with TSP under Ayub Khan in 1963 when the both settled the COK borders.

They next jumped in TSP's pit right after 1971, as they felt the balance of power since 1947 was lost.

All this time the TSP was run by a Western oriented Army and RAPE clique.

Zia changed all that in 1977 coup by intensyfying the Islamization program.

In other words the Pakis that Cheen was friends with turned from frogs to toads.

Now they are stuck with fear of toadstools or mushrooms.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 17 Dec 2011 06:10

Vivek K wrote:Indira Gandhi - the only Indian politician with b$lls!

Indira Gandhi was no Ma Durga, being a mortal human with massive flaws. Still, she developed into a wartime leader on the lines of her childhood hero Jeanne d'Arc. Truly a person whom one would unhesitatingly follow into battle.

On a personal note, I had the honor, as a member of an NCC contingent, to have been part of a "sammaan guard" to present a salaam-e-shastr to this amazing leader. The memory of her stern visage less than a foot from my callow face still produces a frisson.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 17 Dec 2011 06:12

shiv wrote: The statement "Hans ke liye Pakistan,lad ke lenge Hindustan" has been taken pretty seriously by Pakturds. Amazing the high opinion they had about themselves a a group compared to youknowwho

Lad ke lenge pakistan,Hans ke Denge jannatstan.!!

Pakis are just beginning to realize the emptiness of their existence. The day is not far when they tear down the mental statue of Jinnah and cry for reality. MAJ played with these half irrational and half (d) emotional tattoos like a toy and now they are being played by others on hourly basis. Pakjab and Pakhtoon landscape is not exactly suitable for intellectual growth. Buffoonery can earn only so much.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Dec 2011 06:12

Shiv, In 1946 Sikander Hayat Khan, claimed that the British were giving TSP because the Muslim component of British Indian Army was the sword arm of the Raj.

The TSPA since then had made over its image in the likeness of Ghori and Ghaznavids.

The resentment towards Benazir Bhutto is akin to that towards Razia Sultana and same fate.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 17 Dec 2011 06:44

Jags owner Khan wants to take team international
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/f ... z1gkZgmXva

Shahid Khan wants the team to expand its fan base, even if it means playing overseas. Khan, born in Pakistan, visited Jacksonville on Friday for the time since buying the franchise for $760 million.

From what I remember, Shahid Khan is an UI graduate having donated tons of cash there. Remember seeing a plaque commemorating his donation spree.