krisna wrote:+100. I believe you CJ.
regarding RM (and MMS)
Somehow I believe at present time that RM could have done a better job.
AKA may be incorruptible. Same as MMS. But the actions belie that halo effect.
I can change my mind when I am convinced about RM actions.
For now he is "incorruptibly corrupt" so is MMS.
Reasons are easy- inaction when whole scale loot of the nation is going on under their authority.
Why this inaction--
1) lose of their position and prestige ?
2) cowards- unable to take on their masters?
3) what use is honesty and being scrupulous in public life if loot continues unabated under their watchful eyes?
4) haven't these 2 individuals ripped apart the nation in allowing the loot ?
It is said to be pure white not even a microscopic dust should fall on it.
Now these 2 gladiators of honesty have the biggest scams of India going on--- can they still claim to be pure white.
Politicians are known to be cunning and crafty. It is difficult to survive long if one is not so. when one considers the longetivity of AKA, mind boggles as to his inactions being an "incorruptible" politician to the now "incorruptibly corrupt" politician. How can he neglect VKS revelations of scam and DOB controversy? He cannot hide behind procedural stuff. If he knows VKS was wronged he should have got to the bottom of it.
I will change my mind if these 2 "good men" make efforts in putting scoundrels in their homes(prisons).
VKS is more honest and trying to save his nation as he has relentlessly tried within his powers to curb the loot, not caring for his own benefits/power or pelf.
Remember the odds are extremely risky of losing his own reputation and getting besmirched by paid media and public. This has happened more or less.
Thanks krisna.
See let me tell you my view.
The talks which transpired between VKS and TS was reported to AKA. AKA asks VKS to give in writing as otherwise there will be no proof (there is no hint that the tape was in the knowledge of AKA or VKS told him).
VKS says that he doesn't want to pursue the case. The trucks are not purchased.
Unlike the 197 helio tender, which had a alleged involvement and was in procedure, TATRA sales were canceled, which has arisen to the offering of bribe.
Hypothetically, AKA starts an investigation, say an internal affair. They question TS and he denies. VKS has already said he will not pursue the case. Then the case dies. There could be other combinations, which is not know yet and hence we cannot decide based on it.
I held the view that both are at mistake. Let me quote to you the exact sentiments reflect by Arun jaitley in rajya Sabhay. He speaks a lot of sense, in my opinion.
He said "Minister has said and understandably so that he is very particular that all these cases should be inquired into, I think it is for him, as the Head of the Ministry, to make an assessment between a substantive charge or a baseless charge. If it appears to him that the charge is not frivolous and merits an inquiry, even when it is orally brought to his notice – anonymous or otherwise, I am not getting into that controversy – then the same has to be, at leas, primarily inquired into.
If a subject matter comes into the knowledge of the Army Chief and the hon. Minister that somebody, maybe, a serving General, is doing this, is this an issue on which both of them should have put blinkers on their eyes, not recorded it, not inquire into it at all, and allowed that General to complete his term?"
SHRI A.K. ANTONY: He had retired.
SHRI ARUN JAITLEY: Yes; I stand corrected. Sir, if we, on a charge, which is prima facie not frivolous, decide to put blinkers on our eyes and say, “let it be a closed chapter”, then, we are learning to live with corruption. This is something which ought not to have happened. At the same time, Mr.Minister, we are completely with you if you want to cleanse up. But, please, maintain a judicious balance, and that judicious balance is that defence procurement, modernization and defence preparedness should not suffer.
1) He refused to get into the debate if oral or written communication is necessary. Unfortunately, some folks here have already decided that AKA needed to act on it and he is guilty.
2) Defence procurement should not be effected : very important point. After all Tatra is not being bought at first place. TS is already retired.
My contentions are two, because of which I hold them both guilty.
a) written or not, AKA should have made a case and asked his junior to comply.
b) Post of Army Chief was attempted to be bribed and VKS left the alleged accused scot free, there by creating an atmosphere where in future anyone can drop in and offer a bribe to the Army chief. he refused the orders of his senior and there by refusing to bring in the material witness to the case.
While these are my observations, I still stand by the two honest people for the omission, as they have done a larger good for the nation.
Peter,
I have put my points above. The DoB issue, while it is disappointing, I had right from the beginning told that it won't stand a chance and I had spoken about the possible date confusions generally faced by candidates pre filling of such forms , those days. Even SC has been ruling for long time on correction of DoB and it maintained its ruling. If you don't understand what it is, then please so some reading if AKA could have arbitrarily done such a thing.
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