I believe you are referring to the 'thing' that got jettisoned?nits wrote:What is that bird thing on left side while missing is getting launched ?
There was no official Chinese response to the test launch, but the tone of coverage on state-owned China Central Television was more patronizing than belligerent. The test is "a historic moment for India and it shows that India has joined the club of the countries that own ballistic missiles," the broadcaster said before listing numerous shortcomings with the Agni-V, and concluding that "it does not pose a threat in reality."
Ah.. ur referring to the A5 pic!nits wrote:What is that bird thing on left side while missing is getting launched ?
^^Singha wrote:protective casing for the flex nozzles getting discarded.
if A5 were cold launch, the steel tube would have a gas generator at bottom and not need to withstand 400t force. so for good or bad we are going the hot launch route I think.
??The solid fuels used will be different, remember we had to develop everything including the Solid fuel for the missile which will be uniquely Indian. Over time the chemicals used as fuel has improved from the Initial highly reactionary liquid fuels used in early Prithvi's to storable liquid fuel to solid fuel, we will keep improving in this as time goes on.BrijeshB wrote:^^Singha wrote:protective casing for the flex nozzles getting discarded.
if A5 were cold launch, the steel tube would have a gas generator at bottom and not need to withstand 400t force. so for good or bad we are going the hot launch route I think.
Singhaji, why the A5 flames out thick smock compared to the neat blue flame as SS-18..?
Is that a different technology related to heavey ICBM's
But India's land detergent could be most reliable via its rail foundation. Question-are our rail moibiles Broad guage or meter gauage too. We have a large meter guage network too.Singha wrote:you know the condition and width of our roads. the Khan vehicle looks designed for the wide open spaces of the american southwest...
SS-18 uses liquid propellants, Agni - 5 uses solid propellants, hence the difference in smoke.BrijeshB wrote: Singhaji, why the A5 flames out thick smock compared to the neat blue flame as SS-18..?
Is that a different technology related to heavey ICBM's
The SS-18 Mod 3 and 4 have the same general design; the only difference is MIRV accuracy. Whether the Mod 4 brought accuracy to 650 m CEP or improved upon this accuracy is unclear. The missile uses an inertial navigation system with digital computer guidance and control. The missile is a massive 211,100 kg, with a length of 34.3 m and a 3.0 m diameter. It uses a two-stage liquid propellant engine.The SS-18 Mod 4 can deploy its 10 MIRV warheads up to a range of 11,000 km. Each MIRV warhead has a yield of 500 kT.
See 3 lies.tate-owned China Central Television said the missile "does not pose a threat in reality", enumerating some of its shortcomings, from a problem with guidance systems to its 50-ton-plus weight.
CCTV said the missile would have to be fired from fixed, not mobile positions, making it more vulnerable to attack.
Agni-V launch: India demonstrates ICBM capability; China reacts cautiously, says India not rival - The Times of IndiaChina reacts cautiously, says India not rival
BEIJING/NEW DELHI: "China has taken note of reports on India's missile launch. The two countries have sound relationship. "During the (recently held) BRICS meeting (in Delhi) the leadership had consensus to take the relationship further and to push forward bilateral strategic cooperative partnership," Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Liu Weimin told a media briefing in Beijing when asked about the launch.
In Delhi, the diplomatic sources in the Chinese embassy said the "Agni-V launch can give rise to another round of arms race in this part of the world." (Shameless chinis! What happened to your principles when you gave all that nuclear and ballistic missile tech to pakis?)
They were also critical of the media commentary on the successful launch of the nuclear capable 5000 km-range Agni-V missile, saying it sounded provocative. Asked whether China was concerned as most of the country would come under the Agni's range, Liu said in Beijing that "both the countries are emerging powers. We are not rivals. We are cooperative partners. We should cherish the hard earned momentum of cooperation."
To another question whether it would affect the regional stability, he said "we hope Asian countries can contribute to peace and stability."
Their ICBM test failed last week when the North Korean peaceful rocket launch fell on its face. Chinis proabaly doesn't want to irk khan by providing Pakis with missile tech that hits anything beyond India.krishnan wrote:Funny part is paki's are quiet , it's their master who is doing all the whining
Aditya_V wrote:SS-18 weighs 2/3rd of PSLV- wow that is seriously huge and is then cold launched with that weight!!!.
Meanwhile, Chipanda tries to find shortcomings on CCTV to spin to its public.
India tests long-range ballistic missile
See 3 lies.tate-owned China Central Television said the missile "does not pose a threat in reality", enumerating some of its shortcomings, from a problem with guidance systems to its 50-ton-plus weight.
CCTV said the missile would have to be fired from fixed, not mobile positions, making it more vulnerable to attack.
1) The missile has redundancy built in its guidance system and it hit a target within visual range of Navy subs - so very good guidance system over 5000km.
2) Missile weighs ~ 50 tons is not too heavy , even thier DF31 weighs 42 tons, which indicates clearly the A-5 range might be much more.
3) Videos aldready show the missile was moved on mobile rail launcher, yet anther lie debunked.
The fact that CCTV has come up which such laim claims shows that this test is worrying them.
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??He mean that more DF's will be with green paint will be supplied to you know who.Roperia wrote:In Delhi, the diplomatic sources in the Chinese embassy said the "Agni-V launch can give rise to another round of arms race in this part of the world." (Shameless chinis! What happened to your principles when you gave all that nuclear and ballistic missile tech to pakis?)
Sorry couldn't resist!
Since Winston Churchill’s use of the ’V-sign’ in 1941, this gesture is generally recognized as a sign for ‘victory’. But outside the UK, Ireland, New Zealand and Australia few people are aware of the insulting version of almost the same gesture: a ‘v-sign with the palm inwards’, which is often recognized as an alternative for ‘the finger’. Earlier this month British scientists found that finger length is involved in the severity of the insulting version of the V-gesture.
BrijeshB wrote:^^Singha wrote:protective casing for the flex nozzles getting discarded.
if A5 were cold launch, the steel tube would have a gas generator at bottom and not need to withstand 400t force. so for good or bad we are going the hot launch route I think.
Singhaji, why the A5 flames out thick smock compared to the neat blue flame as SS-18..?
Is that a different technology related to heavey ICBM's
So Agni-V Plus will be called as Agni-VINext Major thing after Agni-V , might be another Missile coming from Agni Family , that will be Agni-VI , DRDO News letter of May 2011 had hinted about Agni- VI , Some reports claimed that the ICBM is already named “Surya” and code named AGNI-VI, but no confirmation has been put forward by DRDO , but DRDO news letter mentioned that Shri Avinash Chander, current development head of Agni-IV and Agni- V will head three projects and third Project mentioned was 6000 km A6 system with multiple warheads (MIRV) capable of launching both from the ground and underwater.
Think no (or lesser) gravity zone has reached - so the missile is in mid-course, now the distance does not matter any more since it is out of earth's influence [or least effect considering the velocity and inertia mainted by little short burst flex nozzling].BrijeshB wrote:.. Please elaborate...vasu_ray wrote:Space based interceptors that cover mid-course through re-entry phases
the Canister might come in once the first stage is also made of composites
once we see a MIRVed A-5, it reflects the throw weight (slightly lower due to orbital speeds) it can put in orbit?
.Hmm....I never deviated from the official quote on the range.....but for the first time here i'm taking a step out of the official line. Indeed, this is a 8000 + km puppy, sorry giant
Unlike earlier discussions on Agni missile range where there is a general belief in forums such as this that official range quoted is a downgraded one, for this missile there is an open talk that 5500 km range restriction is mainly not to upset certain powers.The DRDO chief told Business Standard that the Agni-5 was not just a long-range rocket. “This missile incorporates unique technologies that will allow us to have multiple variants. We can achieve short ranges, higher ranges… all with the same missile,” he said.
Although the DRDO calls the Agni-5 an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), its range of 5000 kilometres puts it --- by most conventional measures --- in the class of intermediate range ballistic missiles (IRBMs), which have ranges of 3,000-5,500 kilometres. The Agni-5’s range is carefully calibrated; it can reach targets anywhere except for America and Australia. This would allow it to strike all India’s potential adversaries, even as friendly capitals in Western Europe and the US stay out of range. DRDO sources say that, in case of need, the Agni-5 could easily be ramped up into an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), with a range of more than 5500 kilometres.
http://expressbuzz.com/nation/As-Agni-5 ... 51830.html
But military experts point out that the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) will have to travel some distance before achieving the MIRV/MaRV capabilities. “It is a very complex technology. It’s worth waiting to see when A-5 is finally inducted into the Services, with what features and in what numbers. Range and accuracy are factors one must watch for,” a warhead specialist with the Indian Army told Express.
“Future systems may carry different types of payloads such as high energy weapons. Further systems whenever planned, will have some of these (read as MIRV/MarV) features,” he said.
On the factors that have influenced A-5 development, Chander, the brain behind the missile, said India needs a platform which has the range to cover its emerging area of influence.
“It also needs high mobility, safety and accuracy. A-5 provides a state-of-the-art weapon, a mix of front-end capabilities,” he said.
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yet another story is being scripted for Agni-6, India’s club-class Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile (ICBM). Range: in excess of 6,000 km.
Roperia wrote:I hope they have a video of this.
Agni-V successfully test-firedThe fireball that erupted when the dummy payload hit the waters of the Indian Ocean was recorded by the cameras on board the ships stationed around the impact point.
koti wrote:Where are the control surfaces?
It is well known within intel community that within weeks of China supplying M-9/11s to Pakistan, Israel already had detail blue prints of the missile which they used to tweak their ABM program. One of the reasons Iran was very reluctant to share any tech with Pakistan, it is unknown whether Israel get it from US or from leaks within Pakistan.Aditya_V wrote:Regarding China Sale of Longer range missiles to Pak, I don't think China wants to give Pak anything that can bring Isreal into range as Khan will not allow it, or more importantly any missile with which Pakis can hit their own eastern provinces that's why Pakis are capped with Ghauri, Paki H&D be dammed but thats the limit for missiles sold to them.
P.S- Any Missile even if claimed in Media only which can potentially hit Israel from Baluchistan, we will have Mullahs on the streets of Pakistan asking them to launch at Isreal which will get the Isreally population and politicos nervous and will definitely have ramifications for Khan.
