Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 29 March 2012

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 May 2012 03:18

it could be black toothless powder!

Rohit_K · Post by **Rohit_K** » 17 May 2012 06:02

just came across this - the Pakis in 1947/8 aptly renamed 'Bunder road' in Karachi to MA Jinnah road

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26456376@N06/3526997813/

I know bunder=port

Vivek_A · Post by **Vivek_A** » 17 May 2012 06:36

According to Robert Young Pelton's book "Licensed to Kill, Hired Guns in the War on Terror", the US has been using private contractors to shove a danda up TSP's rear since 2002.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 17 May 2012 07:48

Brad Goodman wrote:Pakistan's export to India up 2.8% in Q1

exported cement, construction material, fruits, cotton yarn & surgical instruments {wtf is paki exporting as surgical instrument? Dr saab any ideas? }

Probably cheap scissors and some basic instruments like that. Indian cities like Mumbai, Delhi and Cochin have a robust intstrument manufacturing base. If Paki imports are being made it is likely that some Indian importer is buying them cheap and selling them at a hefty mark-up and competing with the local low tech manufacturers.

I have not seen a Paki instrument yet in India although I do recall made in Pakistan surgical instruments in the UK in the 1980s. I suppose these Paki instruments will be bought by all those Chennai hospitals who cater to the Ummah with everything pointed at Makkah? Or maybe the usual bunch of unscrupulous profit making healthcare people. Next you can expect to see rich Pakis making hefty donations for private medical seats in Karnataka and elsewhere.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 17 May 2012 07:53

http://tribune.com.pk/story/380076/eure ... s-says-pm/

Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani, chairing a cabinet session on Wednesday, suggested: “We can print currency notes and pump capital into the electricity sector in order to overcome load-shedding.”

Unfortunately this brilliant plan was thwarted because there was no electricity to run the printing press.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 17 May 2012 07:54

If Poaqs are selling Sialkoti Surgical equipment then most probably they are using Jallandhar connections.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 17 May 2012 08:33

Here is a Paki surgical instrument workshop of the type from which the UK was buying instruments

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 17 May 2012 08:36

Child labour in Pakistan surgical instrument manufacture

http://www.ilo.org/dyn/media/mediasearc ... &p_lang=en

http://www.ilo.org/dyn/media/mediasearc ... &p_lang=en

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/galle ... s-pakistan

ShauryaT · Post by **ShauryaT** » 17 May 2012 08:42

Jhujar wrote:If Poaqs are selling Sialkoti Surgical equipment then most probably they are using Jallandhar connections.

No the other way around. I have known people from pre-partition days, who moved from Sialkot to Jalandhar in surgical instruments.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 17 May 2012 08:43

US sees deal near, Pakistan haggling over money
Mush Kill Bargaining

WASHINGTON: The United States and Pakistan on Wednesday raced to conclude a deal to reopen key supply routes for the Afghanistan war before next week’s Nato summit, with Washington hopeful of an imminent deal but Islamabad insisting that the US pay more to repair relations and end the blockade.Pakistan closed the routes after American airstrikes in November that killed 24 Pakistani troops on the Afghan border. Since then, supplies have taken a far more expensive route through eastern Europe and Asia.”We have had some progress,” State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said.”While the Pakistani political leadership hasn’t yet authorised the reopening of the ground transportation routes, we understand that they did endorse the conclusion of the negotiations.”Nuland declined to describe what details remained to be worked out, but American officials had previously spoken of lingering differences over security arrangements, caressing fees and other taxes that would be paid to Islamabad for hosting the routes and guaranteeing safe passage.
But those issues appeared to have been largely ironed out by Wednesday, according to an American official, who said a final deal hinged only on the two sides formalizing a written memorandum of understanding.Haggling by Pakistan could reflect a last-ditch effort to get a higher price

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 17 May 2012 08:49

Mean while, back at the ranch.....

Indian judges ganwar: Chishty

JAIPUR: Dr S M Khalil Chishty, who has returned home to Pakistan late Tuesday after spending about 20 years in Ajmer, including in jail as a convict, was embroiled in a fresh controversy. Few hours after the Supreme Court ordered his release from jail and allowed him to go back to Pakistan last Thursday, a Hindi news channel showed him ridiculing the Indian judiciary during a conversation.

Based on the telecast, Ajmer lawyer Devendra Singh Chauhan filed a petition on Monday in a fast track court accusing Chishty of scandalizing Indian judiciary. The court will hear the petition on May 28 to decide if the case is admissible.

The telecast showed Chishty saying the Indian judiciary was replete with ill-informed (ganwar) and uneducated people, which delayed disposal of cases. The Pakistani virologist was critical of the lower judiciary, which he alleged, could not decide his case in 20 years.

On Tuesday, Chishty released a statement saying he has high regard for the Indian judiciary and he had no intentions to demean the judicial system. "I would like to take this opportunity to apologize to all those concerned over some remarks that were made by me during an interview after my release from prison. I wish to clarify that I did not mean to be disrespectful to the Indian judiciary, I am a law abiding man with utmost respect for judiciary. If my remarks hurt anyone, please accept my deepest apology," Chishty said in the statement released after reaching Pakistan.

Chishty came for a wedding to Ajmer on April 9, 1992. During an altercation on April 19, 1992, one Syed Mohammad Idris died. Chishty was one of the accused in the case.

Since then, he was not allowed to move out of Ajmer. He was in judicial custody and released on bail after 15 days. On January 23, 2011, he was convicted and handed a life sentence. Last Thursday, the SC allowed him to return to Pakistan on humanitarian ground.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 17 May 2012 08:49

11 killed in Karachi
http://www.samaa.tv/newsdetail.aspx?ID=47664&CID=1

A cracker attack at Quaidabad area of the city left one dead and seven injured.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 17 May 2012 09:02

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9 ... ni-network
The ‘Haqqani’ network

Husain Haqqani started his political career as president of the extremely militant Islami Jamiat-e-Talaba, the student wing of the Jamaat-e-Islami. A far-right Islamist political party, the Jamaat advocates religious fundamentalism and a theocracy-based government system in Pakistan. The MQM then not being in existence, the Jamaat virtually ruled Karachi. Haqqani’s academic brilliance was recognised by Ziaul Haq’s martial law regime, which assiduously promoted his career as a journalist.This scribe has a state-run TV’s video showing Haqqani weeping at the time of the death of his mentor Ziaul Haq. Haqqani accuses the Supreme Court judges of carrying out their ‘own partisan agenda.’ What he calls an agenda is actually the blowback of his own party government’s massive corruption, loot and plunder, which Mr Haqqani conveniently refuses to see. Noorani adds: “Haqqani says the Pakistani media has done little to help generate support for eliminating extremism and fighting terrorism. What the media has done for him, he will never talk about. Can he tell us how many hundreds or thousands of calls he has made to each and every media person to push his point of view? How many fake websites he and his cronies, getting funds from one secret fund or other, have been running to malign his opponents and promote him as a victim and as a hero

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 17 May 2012 09:10

White House opposes restrictions on Pak aid
http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?pa ... 2012_pg1_4

WASHINGTON: The White House has strongly opposed recent congressional moves to impose restrictions on reimbursement of Coalition Support Funds for Pakistan as well as requirements of certification.Reacting to a series of proposals made by the House Armed Services Committee in National Defence Authorisation (NDAA) for the fiscal year 2013, the White House budget office objected to several of the proposals. he White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) argued that limiting reimbursement of funds for Pakistan at such a sensitive time would have negative repercussions for counter-terrorism efforts in the region.
The administration strongly objects to the restriction in reimbursement for Pakistan from Coalition Support Funds and the associated certification requirements in Section 1211,” the OMB said in a statement.
Taken together, the reimbursement and certification restrictions – some of which require the US defence secretary to certify Pakistani cooperation on issues outside of his purview – are proposed at a particularly sensitive time and would severely constrict the Defence Department’s ability to respond to emergent wartime coalition support requirements, putting at risk the success of the Afghan campaign, and increasing the risk that al Qaeda and its associates would be able to again enjoy a safe haven in Pakistan, the statement added. app

Roperia · Post by **Roperia** » 17 May 2012 10:59

7 dislikes and 1 like. Yes, I'm the one who liked this video to confuse RAPE and LaWhoris into thinking that somebody in Pak still likes Zardari.

Zardari, though ineffective, has tried to normalize relations with India. When he took power in 2008, he tried to move forward on trade saying that lets leave the core issues for future, wiser generations to solve (I may be quoting someone else here). We all know how that got derailed when Kiya -nahi and his coterie pulled the rug from under his feet by perpetrating the Mumbai attacks. His personal belief in Sufism and comparatively moderate vision of Paki stan is not bad news for India.

Looking ahead, my sense of Paki elections is that PPP will come back to power with MQM's and other smaller parties support. PTI will get some pathan votes and cut into Nawaj Sharif's urban Jihadi punjabi muslim votes since to them Nawaj is too soft on drones and India. Another five years of Zardari at the helm would be interesting.

Roperia · Post by **Roperia** » 17 May 2012 11:54

Pak Air Force planes collide; four pilots dead: Reports

Geo TV says these were training jets. My first thought was - Damn, that chini software malfunctioned on the Bundar.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 17 May 2012 12:05

Well f-16D are also Trainers- well if only

partha · Post by **partha** » 17 May 2012 12:46

It was the sixth Pakistan Air Force crash in seven months and the second in a week, raising concerns over the safety of its largely Chinese and locally made fleet.

http://dawn.com/2012/05/17/collision-of ... ills-four/

hulaku · Post by **hulaku** » 17 May 2012 13:06

The grass eaters of Bakistan (yes this is the actual title)

“We will fight (Hindia) for a thousand years!” Declared chairman of the Bakistan Beables Barty (BBB), Zulfikar Ali Bruto. A couple of years later he was in Hindia trying to negotiate the release of 90,000 Bakistani prisoners of war.

http://dawn.com/2012/05/17/the-grass-ea ... -bakistan/

Does Paracha visit this forum ? Hainjee

Narad · Post by **Narad** » 17 May 2012 13:06

So the dead pigs had been riding mice (Mushak)

One of the two-seater propeller Mushshak planes crashed on a house, injuring a girl and an elderly man, and the second fell in nearby fields in the Rashkai area, 160 kilometres (100 miles) northwest of the capital.

Or was it Mush-suck

But the main question that needs immediate clarification is, what was the "elderly man" doing with the "girl" in "nearby fields".?

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 17 May 2012 13:16

Is Nadeem writing from Pakistan? He better take care, i sort of like him. That piece seems to derive a lot of inspiration from BENIS..look at this for example:

http://dawncompk.files.wordpress.com/20 ... eaters.jpg

Roperia · Post by **Roperia** » 17 May 2012 14:15

HRW urges Zardari not to sign Human Rights Commission bill

Human Rights Watch, on Thursday urged the President of Pakistan not to sign a bill to authorize a newly formed national human rights commission until it is revised to “authorize investigations of the military and the intelligence agencies for human rights violations.”
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“Pakistan’s military and its intelligence agencies have a long and well-documented history of serious and systematic abuses,” said Adams. “A primary reason to create a national human rights commission should be to address longstanding impunity for the army and intelligence services.”
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“A strong and independent National Human Rights Commission can be a key institution in aiding Pakistan’s transition to a truly rights-respecting democracy,” he said. “But a commission that cannot take on cases involving the army and intelligence agencies would perpetuate a cruel joke on Pakistanis whose rights have been violated.”

If only pigs could fly. But they can't, and neither can this happen in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan

Vasu · Post by **Vasu** » 17 May 2012 14:18

Message to all:

I was trying to explain to some candle kisser about the ingrained hate in a Paki's mind and wanted to show them the study done on their text books. Unfortunately, the link in the first post is not working!

Pakistani Education, or how Pakistan became what it is: Curricula and textbooks in Pakistan
http://sdpi.org/sdpi-old/whats_new/repo ... tBooks.pdf

Please can the mods or somebody who has the new link update this?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 17 May 2012 14:56

Vasu, SDPI has made it compulsory to sign up for their publications. This publication is available at http://www.sdpi.org/publications/public ... 86-34.html# I have updated the first page.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 17 May 2012 15:22

Bannu Jailbreak: Police, civil admin & spy agencies held responsible
That most-dangerous guy who was released, Adnan Rashid, is an ex-PAF officer who attempted to kill Musharraf and was convicted along with 56 other PAF personnel of various ranks. It seems now that he was deliberately moved from the Punjab to a far less secure Bannu prison to enable escape.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 17 May 2012 15:34

IR mulling leasing 50 locos to Pakistan

As part of efforts to strengthen Indo-Pak trade ties, Railways is mulling to provide 50 diesel locomotives on hiring basis to Pakistan.

As per the plan, railways is likely to give at an approximate rate of Rs 1,500 per hour per locomotive of 3000 HP to Pakistan for leasing purpose.

Besides leasing out, railways will also provide training facilities for Pakistan railwaymen to run Indian locomotives.

“The Ministry of External Affairs has already okayed the proposal and now the modalities of supplying locomotives are being worked,” said a senior Railway Ministry official.

“If the supply takes place then it will be for the first time that Indian Railways will come to the aid of Pakistan,” the official said.

Though railways regularly supply locomotives to Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Vietnam, Myanmar, Mozambique, Tanzania and Ghana, it will be for the first time that railways will supply locomotives to Pakistan, said the official.

“Railways supply about 10 locomotives on an average in a year. Generally, we sell locos on outright purchase basis to other countries but this will be for the first time that we are considering to give it on hiring basis because Pakistan Railways is preferring leasing to buying,” said the official.

Currently, railways manufacture about 250 diesel locomotives in a year. With the continuous growth in traffic volume, there is a demand for the production of more locomotives.

The three-member team of the Pakistan Railways Advisory and Consultancy Services Limited (PRACS) had earlier held preliminary discussions with the officials of Railway Infrastructure, Technical and Economic Services (RITES).

RITES have received request from Pakistan Railways regarding the supply of locomotives from India. “A formal agreement will be signed between RITES and PRACS after the finalisation of modalities,” said the official.

Pakistan is facing an acute shortage of locomotives as it has about 520 locomotives out of which about 450 are under repair.

Vasu · Post by **Vasu** » 17 May 2012 16:07

SSridhar wrote:Vasu, SDPI has made it compulsory to sign up for their publications. This publication is available at http://www.sdpi.org/publications/public ... 86-34.html# I have updated the first page.

Great! Thanks Saar.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 17 May 2012 16:24

Thanks now Indian Taxpayers can fund the Paki Army earning money from Nato, which can be used to kill Indians. Wonderful?? Least we can ask is an outright Sale for 50 engines. Stop payments to CATIC for 2 months and pay for this. Why make the Indian Tax payer pay for this??

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 17 May 2012 16:38

Brad Goodman wrote:Pakistan's price: US to pay $365 million more a year to reopen supply lines
A US-Pakistan deal to reopen a key NATO supply route through Pakistan, closed for nearly six months, would raise the cost of the war effort in Afghanistan by about $365 million annually.

from the above

In return, the US-led coalition will pay Pakistan a still-to-be-fixed fee of $1,500 to $1,800 for each truck carrying supplies, a tab that officials familiar with negotiations estimated would run nearly $1 million a day. The officials requested anonymity because they weren’t authorized to reveal details of the agreement.

Pakistan seeks $5,000 transit fee for each NATO container

ISLAMABAD — Pakistani negotiators have proposed a fee of about $5,000 for each NATO shipping container and tanker that transits its territory by land into and out of Afghanistan.

Nonetheless, the notion of payment for using what are known as the Pakistani GLOCs, for Ground Lines of Communication, has been difficult for the Pentagon to swallow, because access previously was considered free. But other U.S. officials have pointed out that the United States has given Pakistan billions over the past decade as compensation for its counterterrorism efforts. That money is expected to be discontinued as the new arrangements are put in place.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 17 May 2012 16:45

Cut off every cent of aid to Pakistan: US lawmakers

Prominent American lawmakers have asked the Obama administration to cut off every cent of its aid to Pakistan terming the country a "black hole" where the US has already "sunk" a whopping $24 billion since 2004

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 17 May 2012 17:10

We must answer 'troubling questions' about sex-grooming gangs who target white girls, says Children's Minister

Britain needs an open debate about 'issues around culture' that may explain why men from Pakistani backgrounds are over-represented among offenders prosecuted for grooming white girls for sex, a Government minister has said.

He said that nothing was gained by 'shying away from taking this issue and debating it head on' and warned that the sexual exploitation of children in Britain had been swept under the carpet 'like a guilty secret' for too long.

The minister's comments come only days after the chairman of the Equalities and Human Rights Commission, Trevor Phillips said it would be 'fatuous' to suggest there was no racial link in the Rochdale case.

He said it would be a ‘national scandal’ if it emerged that social services and schools had not acted on reports of abuse for fear of ‘demonising’ minority communities.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 17 May 2012 17:43

Indian Railways shoould first think of making money for itself. Forget the Indo-Pak friendship rubbish.

USA should ask Pakistan to allow Indian Railways to run the route between Jalalabad and Wagah. Cargo handling should be done in India from an Indian port. There is no need for USA to take the risk of its cargo across the length of Pakistan. Pakistan gets 15% cut of the cargo-handling price-tag. All the Pakistan-Army needs to do is ensure rail-track security and acquaint Indian Railways personnel with its signalling protocols.

Pakis don't need to do any training at all. Paki Army too would be happy!

Roperia · Post by **Roperia** » 17 May 2012 18:27

IMO, India should happily give the locomotives Pakis are asking for if we have them in access or our production can meet our domestic demand. Like Pakistan's former Ambassador to US Husain Haqqani told senior US lawmakers that the Pakistani people are rug merchants (this is our/Paki origin) & will do anything for money (Bob Woodward's book).

Pakis, through Taliban, are also killing Americans, Europeans and other NATO countries. None of them have invaded Pakistan, even though not a single Baki missile can reach any of them.

Bakis need to be managed, the option of an invasion must be readied but should be reserved for grave provocation. I think MEA is trying to have a transactional relationship with the Bakis by concluding things that are beneficial to us, viz., remove objection to EU concessions (it was a pressure tactic not that we lost anything after we withdrew our objection), MFN (we had already given in the last century). Opening of Baki economy is like market of another 2-3 Indian states for exports.

Yes, if MMS were to conclude something strategic in the illusion that Bakis will hug us like our lost brothers that would be a mistake.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 17 May 2012 19:59

Roperia ji,

How does giving locomotives to Pakistan helps our economy or our strategic cards?

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 17 May 2012 20:10

Only if we get bigger concessions in return - opening up for trade in automobiles, pharma etc.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 17 May 2012 20:15

Mahendra wrote:[youtube]GsK0-xR50KQ&feature=g-vrec[/youtube]

Some one with authority in the US should pay heed to what Fatah is claiming. Mrs. Clinton's chief of staff has links with Muslim Brotherhood. Is he alluding to that paki woman?

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 17 May 2012 20:21

RajeshA wrote:Roperia ji,

How does giving locomotives to Pakistan helps our economy or our strategic cards?

Not unless one embeds certain codes in the programs that run the locos that enable the locos to breakdown at key moments.

arun · Post by **arun** » 17 May 2012 20:38

pankajs wrote:Cut off every cent of aid to Pakistan: US lawmakers

Prominent American lawmakers have asked the Obama administration to cut off every cent of its aid to Pakistan terming the country a "black hole" where the US has already "sunk" a whopping $24 billion since 2004

“Our tax dollars go in, our diplomats go in – sometimes, our aid professionals go in – sometimes, our hopes go in, our prayers go in,” {Gary} Ackerman said. “Nothing good ever comes out.”

“We should cut Pakistan off of every cent because it has been used for evil purposes,” {Dana} Rohrabacher said, including killing American troops.

From here:

Both parties slam Pakistan as 'black hole' for US aid

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 May 2012 20:42

But neither will do anything about it when in power! its playing to the gullible voters.
What happens is when they come to power the bureaucrats let them into the secret suace that keeps TSP going and they see the darkie Indians rising as a knowldege power and want to check mate them for they have the PRC in a lock step with them and can pull the plug when they want.

So they will give more AIDS to TSP.

arun · Post by **arun** » 17 May 2012 20:45

Hostile forces in Pak going scot-free, not helping ties: India:

Asking Pakistan to subscribe to the concept of good neighbourly relations, the government on Thursday said forces hostile to India there were going scot-free which was not helping improve bilateral relations. …………………..

"We have consistently conveyed peace and progress....It is imperative for Pakistan to fulfil its solemn commitment of not allowing forces and terrorists... against India," he said.

Krishna noted that it has come to the government's notice that "some forces, which are hostile are going scot-free to carry hatred towards India. We have conveyed to Pakistan. This will not help in bettering relations."

He did not make any specific reference but was apparently citing the case of Jamaat-ud-Dawa chief Hafiz Saeed, the main accused in Mumbai attack, who is roaming freely in Pakistan.

Stressing that there is an imperative need for the two countries to live as good neighbours, Krishna said, "That is possible only when Pakistan subscribes to this concept of good neighbourly relations."