Internal Security Watch

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 19 Jul 2012 23:12

Dilbu wrote:A person in my neighbourhood back home in Kerala, who is a prominent member of the local mosque committee etc, approached me last month and asked me if I had closed all my NRI accounts after I returned from Dubai. I asked him why do you want to know that and he says there is a way to earn money. Apparently I should let some people to send and receive money through my account and I will get a good amount monthly as fees. I said no thankyou I have closed all my accounts. When I enquired who is doing this and for what he replied something vaguely like big businessmen etc and left. Should I report this some where? He is a good friend otherwise and I know him from a long time.

he may be innocent. This is clear case of money laundering, terrorist financing. This is a financial crime. Send a note to CBI or ED. They should investigate.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 20 Jul 2012 03:31

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/nadee ... -to-hsbc/2

Nadeem Kashmiri case the first terror link to HSBC

The revelation against HSBC has woken up the Indian agencies who have now put its India employees under the scanner. The Revenue Intelligence wing and also the Reserve Bank of India [ Get Quote ] will probe some rogue elements in the bank who could have possibly facilitated this offence which helped drug lords and terrorist groups park money by hoodwinking the security agencies. This is, however, not for the first time that the HSBC has shown signs of vulnerability in its security set up. A couple of years back, police had picked up Nadeem Kashmiri, a HSBC employee, who was allegedly siphoning off funds to off shore accounts and also stealing data and providing them to some persons.At the time of his arrest the police had said that he could be a pawn in a huge syndicate and was stealing confidential data of customers in Britain and passing it on to some persons who could have been misusing such data. It was also alleged that he had siphoned off funds to the tune of 2,33,000 pounds.Sources in the Intelligence Bureau say that the case on hand and also that of Kashmiri's are quite different. However, the fact remains that there are such elements who commit such frauds and these are the kind of persons who could have helped some drug lords and terror groups set up accounts and go about their transactions.
While it is common knowledge that there are middle men who set up these accounts, the fact remains that unless and until there is an inner hand such transactions cannot be possible.The Indian agencies will work closely with their counterparts in the United States of America for seeking details from the bank about some of the employees who have already been placed on the radar.Those Indian employees who will come under the scanner may have not been directly aware of who exactly they were helping. It is usually made to look like an offence pertaining to black money and money laundering. Most of the time the employees would not be aware that this money is being parked by drug lords or terrorists. It is a well knit network and it happens on scales both big and small. Sources say that it does not matter if these persons knew what the money was being used for, but the fact that they have overseen transactions in order to push their sale or for a bribe is a financial crime and can be tried in the Indian courts."India is extremely serious about such offences and has been fighting a major battle both against money laundering and also fake currency. Such employees are aware that such offences usually fall under the ambit of a fraud case which can be bailable after a certain amount of time," an IB source says.However now the Indian agencies have proposed to amend the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act to combat this menace of money laundering. If the amendment comes through then money laundering would fall under a terrorism offence. In addition to this the proposed amendment also looks at widening the scope and bringing fake currency under the same ambit.
"If the amendment comes through then such offences on Indian soil is going to reduce a great deal. Most of these bankers may indulge in fraud for the want of some money, but if the offence is covered under terrorism then they would think several times," police officials say.The other aspect would be to have a proper investigation and ensure that the guilty are brought to book. They would not want it to go the Nadeem Kashmiri way where a hue and cry was first made about his international terror links only to go slow later on the case for want of proper evidence.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 21 Jul 2012 18:41

Ethnic tension in Bodoland - 5 companies of paramil moved in.

sum · Post by **sum** » 21 Jul 2012 23:21

If these are the official figures, can imagine the actual number of aliens residing in India ( only K'taka numbers cited here):

Overstaying foreigners’ numbers reach alarming proportions

Bangalore police early this week detained renowned hairstylist Razia Sultan, an Afghan national, for overstaying in the country. She had come to the City to inaugurate a symposium attended by several other experts from India and abroad.

A case like this, according to the Union Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) and local authorities, is a problem various agencies are trying to negate.

In Karnataka alone, a large number of illegal foreign residents, including Afghans, were found overstaying. A total of 10,906 were reported to have been overstaying — 2,005, 4,355 and 4,546 of them in 2008, 2009 and 2010, respectively. A breakup by their nationality is not available immediately.

Compared to Karnataka, Odisha had 323, 211 and 19 persons overstaying during the period, while West Bengal, owing it to the proximity with Bangladesh, has the highest number of foreigners overstaying. Statistics revealed that there were a total of 88,647 foreigners overstaying during the period.

And Delhi follows Bengal with 52,961 reported to have been overstaying during the period. According to officials familiar with the situation, these are only the number of people who had legally entered the country. But there are many more who have illegally migrated into the country, keeping tabs on who is something that has been bothering the authorities concerned.

“…It is difficult, almost close to impossible, to ascertain the correct total number of foreign nationals who have entered the country without valid travel documents and are staying here,” an official said.

Specific data of foreign nationals, who come on a tourist visa and are overstaying, is not maintained, he said.

“However, a number of foreigners have been found to be overstaying. And information for the year 2011 and the current year (till March 2012) has not yet been compiled,” another source said.

According to country-wise statistics accessed by Deccan Herald, a total of 41,827 Afghans were found overstaying in India during 2008, 2009 and 2010. Of these, 14,511 persons were found overstaying in 2008; the numbers for 2009 and 2010 were 13,569 and 13,747, respectively.

Statistics reveal that the number of Afghans overstaying is in fact more than the number of Pakistani nationals.

A total of 23,557 Pakistanis were found overstaying during the aforementioned years.
In 2008, the number of Pakistanis was 7,547, but in 2009 and 2010 the number rose to 7,691 and 8,319, respectively.

Prasanna · Post by **Prasanna** » 22 Jul 2012 12:40

CnC progresses unabated. use fringe groups to foment trouble, then use human rights as an excuse to intervene and promote secession as the only means to end violence

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1120722/j ... 757809.jsp

Indonesia paid heavily by ignoring these groups and lost resource rich Aceh.

the money blinded will accuse others of being right-wingers for exposing these nefarious works.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 22 Jul 2012 13:15

From the above report,

The Danish Institute of Human Rights (DIHR) and Dutch Catholic Organisation for Relief and Development (Cordaid) are the two major organisations put under watch.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 22 Jul 2012 13:35

There are 3600 US citizens overstaying. Many of which are untraceable

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 22 Jul 2012 13:45

shyamdji,
Whats your hunch about those amirkhans?

Any chance that some are spies being hosted by anti-national groups so that amirkhans build up data from ground?

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 22 Jul 2012 15:00

Yes. Absolutely. Obviously not all of the 3600 are spies. Some certainly yes. We know some are in rural areas mixing with certain groups/NGOs, some have quick objectives - where is this warship or that warship, some getting info on nuclear/military and then fly out. then they rely on ex servicemen and defence co sales employees.

The US intelligence have a big interest in what we are doing - economic, military, nuclear etc. Despite their network they continue to fail.

sum · Post by **sum** » 22 Jul 2012 18:40

^^ Is there even a single Indian abroad who is listed as overstaying in another country and could be helping in providing info to GoI/RAW?

Asking because there seems to be no shortage of such folks in India from different country but havent heard a single report about missing Indians being suspected of being spies in different countries.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 22 Jul 2012 19:02

Boss, why do you think that is? I've said for a long time that the others are too busy spreading rumours and have an interest in showing India as weak (it sells!). Media is too busy showing India as weak and allowing PRC incursions, but we don't reveal that SF has been conducting reconnaissance inside PRC for a long time. About a year or so ago, we were on red alert for SF bumping into PRC patrols and sparking a conflict.

As for spies in other countries - RAW mid-senior level guy had to be hauled off a plane in a western country in the 90s by local authorities. He was being trailed for 3 months while he was visiting agents etc.

Types of operations have changed today.

nvishal · Post by **nvishal** » 22 Jul 2012 19:19

Prasanna wrote:Scan on foreign NGOs over rights data

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1120722/j ... 757809.jsp

Isn't it interesting how most artificial programs sustain on constant inflow of funds?

Now imagine what would happen if you interrupt the flow to malabar and andhra.

sum · Post by **sum** » 22 Jul 2012 22:11

shyamd wrote:Boss, why do you think that is? I've said for a long time that the others are too busy spreading rumours and have an interest in showing India as weak (it sells!). Media is too busy showing India as weak and allowing PRC incursions, but we don't reveal that SF has been conducting reconnaissance inside PRC for a long time. About a year or so ago, we were on red alert for SF bumping into PRC patrols and sparking a conflict.

As for spies in other countries - RAW mid-senior level guy had to be hauled off a plane in a western country in the 90s by local authorities. He was being trailed for 3 months while he was visiting agents etc.

Types of operations have changed today.

Good to know if all these are true... Aam admi like me will never know of these stuff anyways and so BRF is the only place where few of these "black ops" doubts can be celared.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 22 Jul 2012 22:36

Simple- things aren't as bad as it seems and there are people working day and night for our safety. we don't hear of them or know of many of the efforts. As I say media only reveals maybe 5-10% of the story usually for public consumption and a whole different world in national security sometimes changing by the minute.

They say MMS/BJP/INC are all infiltrated by spies working for British/US/PRC intel etc, but look at the big interests... Have they stopped India from doing what's in its interests? Nuke tests, MRCA, more recently Iran (we voted against Iran and then we ignored US warnings and continued to trade with them).

Not saying things are perfect, there is still a lot of work to be done and many changes needed.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 23 Jul 2012 17:24

Bodoland burning. Even the beeb's gleefully reporting what our desi channels have conspired to bury in silence...

Thousands flee rioting in Indian state of Assam

Of course the beeb's sowing hatred by painting illegal BD muslims as innocent victims (aren't they always?) but we know the truth can be more complex as well as unpalatable to the desi diva led tv channel class...

anybody on the ground who can confirm what the heck is going on?? Who's doing the fleeing and where are they going?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 23 Jul 2012 18:35

bodos vs muslims

According to official sources, the violence started after gunmen attacked two student leaders in Magurbari on Thursday. Following this, four former Bodo militants were shot dead on Friday.

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from telegraphindia

The trigger for the situation was the attack on four persons, who were on their way to Kokrajhar on two motorbikes, with sharp weapons at Joypur Namapara under Kokrajhar police station. The four died on the spot.

In apparent retaliatory action, one person was killed and five were injured in Duramari, which then led to more violence in different parts of the district. The flare-up has created a fear psychosis among the people in villages, forcing them to take shelter in relief camps.

Tension has been brewing in the district since sometime now, after the All Bodoland Minority Student Union (ABMSU) accused the Ex-BLT Welfare Association of forcing them to vacate a plot, alleged to be on forest land in the vicinity of Chakrachila Wildlife Sanctuary, which was supposed to house an idgah.

Killing of two persons by unidentified gunmen at Anthihara under Dotma police station on July 6 and attack on two persons at Magurmari on Thursday (July 19) added to the tension, which finally erupted on Friday evening.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 23 Jul 2012 20:01

With the army being called into Assam and given Shoot at sight orders, I hope they just mercilessly kick out or slaughter these pigs who come into India with no shame.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 23 Jul 2012 20:22

that is a armchair theory sire. the areas are far flung, and these groups have been arming themselves and preparing for 2 months now....some are veterans of 'rebel' outfits that came overground later. yes given a certain set fixed objective like "take this village" the army/paramils can do it, but in bush fights of this nature, without humint , the armed forces are unable to tackle the real troublemakers. the typical enemy 'unit' is a gang of two people on a bike with a pistol and a folding stock AK56 who operate on remote village roads by night...

they can however ensure some security to the relief camps, do some patrolling and deter the miscreants from gathering large numbers and overtly taking on the state like blocking roads and stopping express trains which is happening right now.

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 23 Jul 2012 20:23

BRF gurus, What happened to that media watch thread containing who's who of the indian media?
Looking for some relevant info. Please help. Thanks in advance.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 23 Jul 2012 21:39

Simple things are simple onlee, and of course there are people working night and day to preserve our "security". True, but the simple thing is to ponder the following model:

(1) no state machinery is a monolithic whole. In India too, there are likely to be factions and wheels within wheels, each connected to or identifying with different interest groups and positions.
(2) the trick is to represent personal, political or financial lobby group interests as national interests.
(3) certain things often have to be done in defiance of foreign powers not because of any true defiance, but to increase bargaining power in subsequent negotiations - again for unrevealed personal, political or group interests, and not primarily or solely for "national interest".
(4) too much concessions too quickly can be politically costly, and hence not to be publicly shared. The real underlying political, or organizational or financial interests are the primary concern. Nothing can be publicized, or done in such a hurry that they may jeopradize those very long term underlying interests.
(5) Maintaining total silience on foreign policy plans or internal security measures - formally can be justified as part of tactics. Not doing anything about it, or coming to understandings with hostile forces for mutual benefits - which are not necessarily of long term benefit for the non-powerful general mass - can be covered up under silence.

Later on, always, leadership - just as they did for Islamist violence right from 1947 - can claim, that they never anticipated this degree of "violence". It can always be dismissed as a "shock". But until it happens, all the tracks of allowing the growth of such forces - are suppressed and denied by these very same leaders. JLN formally fulminated against newspapers for revealing the nature and extent of Islamist violence in East Pakistan, because it would expose his virtual silence and what virtually amounted to formal apologetics and patronage of Islamist forces. All the blame and target was Jinnah - the personal rival for power, but the theology and its organized sector itself had nothing to be blamed for, nothing to be exposed and non-Muslims even to be misled and lied to - so that they do not prepare for the onslaught. After the onslaught, explanation of the silence - oh - we could not foresee that ML would do such things!

Thats what Indian leaderships' strategic silence policy have yielded in the past. Indian leadership could not anticipate Mumbai 93 or 26/11. Oh no, it was part of the Sakunian or Machiavellian policy of silence under which leaders work 24/7 to provide security.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 23 Jul 2012 22:10

muraliravi wrote:With the army being called into Assam and given Shoot at sight orders, I hope they just mercilessly kick out or slaughter these pigs who come into India with no shame.

There has always been pressure to look the other way when BD Islamists encroached in Assam. Just as in WB they have developed cozy transnational criminal networks, which deal in narcotics and women/children. In Assam valley, the problem with this policy is that traditional Ahom hostility towards Muslim appeasement, combines with the historical and local perception of "Bengalee==Muslim", and is a double edged sword.

The illustriously gentle Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed's reign saw the first political use of this sword against Bengalees - but selectively against Hindoo Bengalees onlee [naturally, as its outside the heartland of Congress, and Assamese Congressmen had been raising this line or been allowed to raise this line from before the Partition : perhaps the signal was, yes you can express your anti-Bengali sentiments on Hindu Bengalis onlee, but Muslims are protected.]

The anti-muslim feeling of the Valley Ahoms were thus carefully turned away from the "Muslims" into Bangalee-kheda [chase out the Bangalee] - and it happened under the congrez. Subsequently, however since the problems real roots were not the Hindu Bengali, but the East Pakistani and BD islamist onslaught, teh congrez gameplan went a bit out of hand for some time. Isolation of Assam economically, could however be used to bring the ruling elite classes back into congrez line of thinking again, so that Islamist encroachment could be ignored for a while. Now the whole thing is extremely murky.

The Bodo versus BD islamist clash is part of a chain of complex interconnected moves, and don't be surprised if some wisehead devised the move as a means of tackling the "Bodos" while not taking the blame directly. A lot of threads have started moving after the extradition of ULFA brain-minus-Baruah from BD. In the future, the Baruah-minus group is slated to be the dobermann group to tackle the other ethnic separatists like the Bodos, while the inner circle of the valley rulers remain firmly in Delhi congrez control.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 23 Jul 2012 23:47

Question on camera to a Bangladeshi illegal immigrant in India: "Who do you vote for?". Answer: "Congress ko" .

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 24 Jul 2012 10:47

brihaspati wrote:There has always been pressure to look the other way when BD Islamists encroached in Assam.

M.K Dhar's book on the Intelligence Bureau/R&AW and Ram Mohan IPS's book "Simply Khakhi", I guess have devoted pages after pages for this. If I read it right, the peace loving Assamese people were kind of always given the short end of the stick (and a raw deal). The appeasement of Muslim Bangladeshi illegal immigrants seems to have started quite some time back. The usual suspects for this appeasement remain INC.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 24 Jul 2012 11:19

http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/det ... l2412/at06

shoot at sight order in kokrajhar.

I believe the first PM of assam gopinath bordoloi and perhaps some central leaders in the old congress were instrumental in putting down a joint british-MLeague project to make assam as part of east bengal province and hence pave the way for it to be made part of BD in 1947!

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 24 Jul 2012 12:44

What PM of India not concerned about his "HOME STATE"?

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 24 Jul 2012 13:32

Singha wrote:http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/det ... l2412/at06

shoot at sight order in kokrajhar.

I believe the first PM of assam gopinath bordoloi and perhaps some central leaders in the old congress were instrumental in putting down a joint british-MLeague project to make assam as part of east bengal province and hence pave the way for it to be made part of BD in 1947!

Since when Assam got its PM? He was first CM of Assam (Chief Minister)

nawabs · Post by **nawabs** » 24 Jul 2012 15:27

Bareilly violence kills one, curfew on

http://zeenews.india.com/news/uttar-pra ... 89137.html

At least one person was killed and several injured when communal violence broke out in Uttar Pradesh's Bareilly district late Sunday, police said on Monday.

rouble erupted when some Muslims objected to music played by the Kanwariyas or the Shiv devotees who were returning from Haridwar, a police source said.Outraged, the Kanwariyas resorted to violence, vandalized shops and public property and set on fire many vehicles in the Jogi Navada locality, a police officer said. One person was killed in the firing in Math Chowki area.

According to police, at least two dozen people were injured in the violence that broke out in many parts of the city and continued past midnight.Hundreds of people emerged from their houses in Shahdana. A police team was attacked in Azamnagar. Many policemen, including the superintendent of police (SP), were injured in the stone pelting.Police lobbed tear gas shells at the rioting mobs but could not contain the violence

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 24 Jul 2012 19:11

Communal clash in UP's Faizabad, paramilitary deployed

Lucknow, July 24 (IANS) Two Uttar Pradesh State Roadways buses were damaged as members of two communities clashed over a religious site in Uttar Pradesh's Faizabad town Tuesday, police said. A contingent of paramilitary Rapid Action Force (RAF) has been deployed in the town.
The clash follows similar communal tension in the state's Bareilly city Sunday.
Police said violence broke out in the Mirzapur area of Faizabad, 120 km from Lucknow, after a brief altercation between members of two communities. They then indulged in heavy stone pelting and went on rampage, damaging two buses of the Uttar Pradesh State Roadways.
They also raised slogans against the district administration and the state government.
District officials admitted that for the last one week discontent had been simmering following a dispute over the religious place and its use but the officials had failed to thrash out a solution.
Senior Superintendent of Police (SSP) Ramit Sharma said the situation was under control and a platoon of the RAF has been deployed as a precautionary measure.
No arrests have been made but police are keeping a close watch on the situation, he added.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 24 Jul 2012 19:39

Singha ji,
the story is more complicated.

These very "first leaders" deliberately subverted the referendum on Sylhet. Sylhet, or Srihatta, was even at that stage majority Hindu. We would have gained territory, and not lost it. Srihatta Hindus were more Bengali Hindus, than Ahom - and the congrez centre allowed this to happen. One of the plausible reasons forwarded for this is that the Srihatta Hindus were being organized by Shyamprasad's Mahasabha, and hence the JLN coterie wanted nothing of it remaining within India.

Compared to that Atulya Ghosh et al prevented at least the loss of Murshidabad and Calcutta. They were forced to compromise on Chittagong where JLN played his usual tricks [giving intensely emotional hints of doing something and never doing it etc.].

AbhiJ · Post by **AbhiJ** » 24 Jul 2012 19:54

Could there be a Single Source for all the Three?

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 24 Jul 2012 20:12

Slowly but surely given the current demographic shift in favor of Muslims, we'll lose the NE.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 24 Jul 2012 23:12

once the INC got a taste of creating vote banks out of BD settlers in Assam (and the left front in WB) there was no looking back...

darshhan · Post by **darshhan** » 24 Jul 2012 23:36

RoyG wrote:Slowly but surely given the current demographic shift in favor of Muslims, we'll lose the NE.

More than demographic shift, it is the "demilitarized/dewarriorized" nature and mindset of present day Hindus which is more of a worry. Apart from this lack of cohesion and a sense of common purpose is also a major cause of worry.

Infact there is another side to demographic shift as well. There are more Islamist targets to choose from. It could be sniper's delight. Or a windfall for an anti-islamist death squad.

AbhiJ · Post by **AbhiJ** » 25 Jul 2012 02:49

darshhan wrote:
RoyG wrote:Slowly but surely given the current demographic shift in favor of Muslims, we'll lose the NE.
More than demographic shift, it is the "demilitarized/dewarriorized" nature and mindset of present day Hindus which is more of a worry. Apart from this lack of cohesion and a sense of common purpose is also a major cause of worry.

Infact there is another side to demographic shift as well. There are more Islamist targets to choose from. It could be sniper's delight. Or a windfall for an anti-islamist death squad.

Infact even if you observe around the Comments Section of TOI, You see the Desired Hindus have reached Majority and the Communist-Socialist-Marxist-Abrahamics are getting Spanked. The usual Aryan Migration, Caste System, Nehruvian Socialism, Statue Gods, Gujarat, Babri all are getting Suppressed or made to bend down.

It is happening faster than We think.

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 25 Jul 2012 05:26

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 133349.cms

Girl molested, thrown out of train in Karnataka

She got up from her seat and went near the door. The youths followed her and continued to misbehave. They pushed her out when she said she would inform police.

The miscreants were identified as Akbar, 24, Imran, 21, Shuban and Ahmed — all from Kalyanagiri locality in Mysore.

Strange TOI reported the names

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 25 Jul 2012 09:07

Heat on Assam Govt/Centre for Failing to Tackle Bodo-Muslim Strife

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 134890.cms

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 25 Jul 2012 09:30

we may be missing some details on this case, but on the surface, this looks like yet another step towards Islamization...

Kashmiri acid attack victim let down by law

She waited for justice for seven years but it was all in vain. Gul Naaz came to know earlier this week that a court has exonerated the men accused of throwing acid on her and leaving her disfigured for life.

Her fault: She had dared to open a beauty parlour in Kishtwar district of Jammu.

"Two men who threw acid on me were arrested. They were kept in the police station for a night and released the next day. The case went to the sessions court. I was called once to record my statement. I was told that I'll be called again, but it never happened," Naaz, 34, said.

"The police informed me on Tuesday that the case has been closed and the accused exonerated by the court," she said, adding that she plans to file an appeal against the decision.

In 2006, Naaz, who has three children, opened a beauty parlour in Kishtwar to earn her livelihood as her husband had suffered serious injuries in a traffic accident.

She said two men - Sajjad Ahmad and Liyqat Ali - told her to close down the beauty parlour or she would have to face serious consequences.

"I just laughed at Sajjad, who was also the imam of a local mosque. I thought they were joking. But one day they executed the threat," Naaz said.

The attack damaged one eye completely. "Whatever money I had, I spent that on my treatment. All these years I have gone through hell for nothing and those who did it are roaming freely," she said.
...

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 25 Jul 2012 14:16

from twitter, TIFWIW:

>>An outlaw ‏@Great_Gujarati
RT @AmiSri: A friend from Assam called & informed that state police is protecting Bangladeshis in Kokrajhar & Udalgiri districts #AssamRiots

In fact the #AssamRiots hashtag has quote some useful (anecdotal) info from folks on the ground in Asom reporting facts that are otherwise buried in media silence.

member_23629 · Post by **member_23629** » 25 Jul 2012 14:26

A friend from Assam called & informed that state police is protecting Bangladeshis in Kokrajhar & Udalgiri districts

But this will not stop these very same Assamese from voting the Congress party to power again, the same party which does not even pretend to represent their interests but makes it very clear they are on the side of the Bangladeshi illegal immigrants. Hindus connive with their oppressors to ensure their own persecution -- so what are they complaining about now?

member_23629 · Post by **member_23629** » 25 Jul 2012 14:30

darshhan wrote:
RoyG wrote:Slowly but surely given the current demographic shift in favor of Muslims, we'll lose the NE.
More than demographic shift, it is the "demilitarized/dewarriorized" nature and mindset of present day Hindus which is more of a worry. Apart from this lack of cohesion and a sense of common purpose is also a major cause of worry.

Gandhi was discovered and propped up by the British, helped by the missionaries, to ensure this very outcome -- "demilitarized Hindus." It is the most successful social engineering ever.