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Surasena garu is right. I got fooled lol

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To get an idea of what our Indian Moslems are subjected to in terms of fear and propaganda, check this guy out - Sheikh Imran Hossein. He and his ilk would be counted as jokers if his words wouldn't be taken so seriously by a young audience. He knows all about the second coming, the Mahdi and the Dajjal, and he is interpreting world events with live commentary.

Watch from about the 40th or 44th minute. He starts talking about what Indian Moslems needs to start doing in order to meet the coming Indo-Israeli attack to create Baluchistan, etc. This video was posted in July this year. Predicts the beginning of a "20 years of guerilla war" to begin for the reconquista of Hind, once the US leaves Afghanistan.

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News is pouring in that UP liquor baron Ponty Chadha and his brother kill each other in a heavy shootout at their farmhouse in Delhi over property division.

The brother died on the spot, while Ponty died on his way to the hospital. Initially it was announced that unidentified persons shot at them, most likely to protect Ponty should he survive.

One shouldn't speak ill of the dead but this rat duo made their money with the democratically elected rats in BSP and now in SP. Cornered all the liquor business, sugar mills, and it was reported that they would have most likely win the Rs. 10,000 Crore Anganwadi Child Nutrition Scheme that the UP Government is going to announce soon. Most unfortunately, their billions will disappear with them. Google his name and a host of information will emerge. Expecting at least some news on this new political-business nexus saga.
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his bro shot at him and his body guards retaliated...he is handicapped on both hands
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Vasu wrote: BSP and now in SP.

Ponty was close to Mayawati, and hated by Maulana Saheb. Since SP has been elected, he has been under a lot of attention and glare.

This is almost certainly an accident like the shooting in Nepal royal family. Consider this a move for 2013. (Like Pilot et al in the past)
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there were 45 armed guards inside the house.... :shock:

looks like he was cleaned up
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According to Shaikh Imran Hossein: "Hindu India must submit".
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JE Menon wrote:According to Shaikh Imran Hossein: "Hindu India must submit".
That we are ready to only, the only question is, we are fighting amongst ourselves to figure out who to, the Han's, the Americans, the Church, Pakistan, or Saudi Arabia?

There is SL also in the picture some where.

:(( :(( :((

We shall submit as soon as we figure out who do we want to submit to. :(( :(( :((
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what? You didnt add the Track-II Jaichands and their advocates!!!!!! Of course we should submit to the Paki Sponsored pappi-jhappi and bhaichara and other BS spouting, treasonous Indians. How can you be so insensitive to the anti-national agenda and propoganda of the so called peaceniks? Hain Ji.
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krishnan wrote:there were 45 armed guards inside the house.... :shock:
The report from The Hindu. This report mentions that AK-47 cartridges were found in the area of gun fight. But AK-47 is a rifle of "restricted bore" and is generally not issued to any civilian.
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IT IS NOT issued to any Civilian.
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vijayk wrote:http://www.niticentral.com/2012/11/is-c ... achen.html
Is Congress slyly selling out on Siachen?
From the comments section:

Why do most Indians have this itch to be equitable even when on a sinking ship ? When will we learn ?
This is a incredibly poor piece, quite unworthy of a publication that wishes to be taken seriously. A few reasons why:
1. Ms. Jain casually passes off dialogue amongst retired officers of the Indian and Pakistani armed forces as “military-to-military… confidence building measures:, when it is anything but. If there isn’t a single active officer present, how is the dialogue “military-to-military”?
2. The so-called nationalists may well have apprehensions that the UPA government is “agreeing to American pressure to surrender Indian interests in this strategic sector without taking the Indian public in confidence”? But are these apprehensions grounded in reality, or are they just the product of fertile imaginations running wild? Why would it be in American interests to have India hand over Siachen to Pakistan? And why would the UPA succumb to such pressure? Moreover, if it was the Americans behind this dialogue, why would a Canadian institution take the lead in initiating these talks? Last I heard, there’s no shortage of well-funded think tanks in the United States. Unless these questions are answered satisfactorily, it would be best not to give the rabble-rousers any credibility.
3. It may be obvious to Ms. Jain that “the Atlantic Council of Ottawa and Atlantic Council of US are extensions of the Pakistani Army”, but there’s little evidence to back this accusation up. If it is a product of the columnist’s imagination, then she should specifically state as such, instead of passing off allegations as facts.
4. Why are the “American, Canadian and British global policemen… determined to demilitarise the glacier?” In what way have their actions shown that this is something they are hell-bent on achieving?
5. One finds it very hard to believe that the Chief of Army Staff and his predecessor would be so uncouth as to mouth obscenities when asked by a reporter to comment on a strategic issue. In doing so, they would only bring dishonor to themselves and the office they serve.
6. The government of India has little right to prevent private individuals from meeting with foreigners and discussing any issue under the sun. As long as said individuals are not violating any laws (like giving away troop dispositions, which the OSA prevents), they can discuss whatever they like. Moreover, for the government to “crack down” on these individuals would backfire badly and only end up giving their views credibility. In my opinion, they are doing the right thing by ignoring the whole affair.
7. The fact of the matter is, the Prime Minister, Defence Minister, and the Chief of Army Staff share the exact same view on Siachen: the Glacier is Indian territory, the occupation of the Saltoro Ridge is fully consonant with the Shimla Agreement, and withdrawal will not even be considered until the Pakistanis authenticate the AGPL. That stand has not changed yet. So why is the Government of India being dragged into, and excoriated for, what was essentially a private dialogue between individuals, sponsored by an organisation based in a foreign country at that?


It may also be that this was written by Fai type track 2 sell outs to muddle the water and do a pre-emptive attack on any further criticism.
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JE Menon wrote:According to Shaikh Imran Hossein: "Hindu India must submit".
Which we did and do every time you send a fax to TSP you hit submit/enter
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Salman, suspected explosives supplier and still a mystery
Details about a man from Karnataka’s coastal region, believed to be a provider of bomb-making material to the Indian Mujahideen and its key leader Yasin Bhatkal, remain unclear despite police efforts to find out more about him from the interrogation of Fasih Mehmood, an alleged IM operative deported from Saudi Arabia recently.

The man, identified as Salman, has been named as a supplier of detonators and explosives among six absconding persons including the Bhatkals — Riyaz, Iqbal and Yasin — in a list of 14 people, including Fasih Mehmood, who are accused in the Chinnaswamy Stadium blasts of April 17, 2010. Beyond the name, however, a clear identity is yet to emerge.
Since 2008, coastal Karnataka as a point of supply of bomb materials has figured several times in investigations linked to the Indian Mujahideen. Yasin Bhatkal himself is suspected to have been the supplier of explosives from the region in 2008. He has been on the run since late 2008 but the access to bomb materials from the region has continued.

In the May 13, 2008, serial blasts in Jaipur that left 80 people dead, the ammonium nitrate used in the nine bombs was sourced from Udupi near Mangalore, allegedly by Indian Mujahideen operatives Atif Ameen (killed in the Batla house encounter of 2008) and Ariz Khan (absconding).

For the September 13, 2008, Delhi serial blasts that left 30 people dead, suspects Mohammed Saif and Mohammed Khalid are said to have travelled from Delhi to Udupi on August 28 to collect ammonium nitrate from a man identified as Shah Rukh and believed to be Yasin Bhatkal. Investigations show they collected 7 kg ammonium nitrate and 10 detonators and returned to Delhi on September 2 to begin making the bombs.
Sources said Fasih helped provide Yasin Bhatkal access to a group of people of Darbhanga, where he hails from, to act as foot soldiers through a cousin, Gauhar Aziz Khomeini, and classmate Tariq Anjum Hassan.

Those arrested in the stadium blasts case, apart from Fasih and Qateel, are Gauhar, Tarique, Aftab Alam, Gayur Ahmad Jamali, Kamal Hassan and Kafeel Akhtar. The six absconding are Riyaz Bhatkal, Iqbal Bhatkal, Yasin Bhatkal, Salman, Mohsin Chaudhry and Jasim.
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Vasu wrote: One shouldn't speak ill of the dead but this rat duo made their money with the democratically elected rats in BSP and now in SP. Cornered all the liquor business, sugar mills, and it was reported that they would have most likely win the Rs. 10,000 Crore Anganwadi Child Nutrition Scheme that the UP Government is going to announce soon. Most unfortunately, their billions will disappear with them. Google his name and a host of information will emerge. Expecting at least some news on this new political-business nexus saga.
At the top level there is a strong nexus between politician and industrialists. Instead of saving the ill gotten money at 0% Swiss accounts, politicians find it beneficial to lend it to industrialists who can provide high growth for money. Same is true for many large business houses (real estate is one such preferred sector). Ponty Chaddha was no different who created win-win situation for everyone (himself, bureaucrats and politicians).
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SSridhar wrote:Chanaakya, you wrote
Contrary to popular misconception there is no queue system . Each Prison Authority decides the time of execution based on set procedure and warrant issued by the court and orders of the State Govt.
There are two things. One is the mercy petition and the other is the death warrant itself. The 'queue' was spoken of in the context of the mercy petition. The 'queue' is not a popular misconception. It would be fair to say that we were not aware of the mechanism until the Home Minister opened his mouth on this issue. That is what the Home Minister himself said and repeated it many times, the latest being :
"The Opposition may be obsessed with Afzal Guru. I have explained so many times and I am surprised that you in the media are repeating the question... We will take up each case according to the order in which the case is pending before the ministry of home affairs and before the President of India.{and that is the definition of a queue, FIFO} So, the cases will be taken up one by one, " he said.
The actual execution is another matter.
chaanakya wrote: Ok , let me clarify further, there is no queue system, as popularly believed and as propounded by PC to explain the delay, even for mercy petition. ( it had been spoken in the context of mercy petition and statement of chidambaram therefore I had used the word, hope now it is clear). I was also referring to posts made earlier indicating that there are large number of convicts on death row prior to AG.
Home ministry may process the file on FIFO basis, not that they adhere to it strictly in all cases or that is how it is prescribed in office manual.
PC may be stickler to FIFO but not sure how far he would adhere to. AG could become priority or urgent if existence of Govt is at stake. As of now, it is a political dramabaazi and not the touted queue system.
This is what I wrote earlier about the so called queue theory. That was a lie to get out of Afzal guru delay caused by Delhi Govt and MHA.

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 30#p882930

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 11#p869011
That is why one doubts the spacious explanation of queue system.

The idea of queue system is probably floated by some smart alek in MHA to get out of afzal logjam.
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 54#p868954
There is no queue system in execution. Date and time of execution if fixed in the Execution Warrant, popularly known as Black Warrant.

The concept of queue system is more related to MHA dealing with mercy petitions addressed to H.E. the President of and forwarded to MHA for advice of the Cabinet.It is probably dealt with on FIFO basis. SO the queue. A prisoner can not be hanged till his petition is pending with H.E the President.Mercy petition is not a judicial function, but the Grace of the state bestowed upon a condemned prisoner.It can not be challenged once granted can not be altered. Death sentence can be commuted to Life sentence.
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Votebank politics extreme mode.

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Karnataka High Court denies bail to Maudany again
The Karnataka High Court on Thursday refused to grant bail to Abdul Nazir Maudany, an accused in the 2008 Bangalore serial bomb blast case. However, the court permitted him to get medical treatment for his ailments at two private hospitals at his cost while being in judicial custody, with police escort.

The High Court did not accept the allegation of Mr. Maudany that the authorities disobeyed the Supreme Court order for providing proper treatment to him and hence vision in his left eye had reduced. He has already lost vision in the right eye. He has coronary artery disease, cervical spondylosis, diabetic retinopathy and diabetic neuropathy, among other ailments.

Going through the details of treatment provided to him by the State on which Rs. 9 lakh was spent, Mr. Justice Das said the accused was treated at the Jayadeva Institute of Cardiovascular Sciences & Research, Karnataka Institute of Dialectology, Minto Eye Hospital, NIMHANS, Kidwai Institute of Oncology, Soukhya Health Centre, Kottakkal Ayurveda Hospital and Narayana Netralaya.
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However, the court permitted him to get medical treatment for his ailments at two private hospitals at his cost while being in judicial custody, with police escort.
I like this!! :twisted: :twisted:
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Big egg on Delhi Police face:
2 facing death freed in Lajpat Nagar blast case
Criticising Delhi Police for its “slipshod approach” and “casualness”, which failed to ensure “minimum standards or proof required in a criminal trial”, the Delhi High Court on Thursday acquitted two men, Mirza Nisar Hussain alias Naza and Mohd Ali Bhatt alias Kille, who had been sentenced to death by a trial court in the 1996 Lajpat Nagar bomb blast case.

The bench of Justices S Ravindra Bhat and G P Mittal also commuted to life imprisonment the death sentence awarded to Mohd Naushad but upheld the life term for Javed Ahmed Khan alias Chhota Javed. All four had appealed against the trial court order.

After the order, standing counsel (criminal) Pawan Sharma, who appeared for the state, said: “We will consider filing an appeal against the verdict after going through the judgment.”

Police had claimed that the four men were members of the Jammu and Kashmir Islamic From and were behind the blast at the crowded Lajpat Nagar market that killed 13 people and injured 38.

In April 2010, a Sessions court convicted the four men. Two others, Farooq Ahmed Khan and a woman named Farida Dar, were held guilty for offences under the Explosive Substances Act and the Arms Act. They were sentenced to jail for seven years and four years and two months, respectively.

Acquitting Mirza Nisar Hussain and Mohd Ali Bhatt, the High Court on Thursday took police to task: “The nature of grave prosecution lapses, in regard to various issues, such as lack of proof connecting some of the accused with the bomb incident, failure to hold TIP of articles and the accused... not recording the statements of vital witnesses... underline not only its lapses and inefficiencies, but also throw up question marks as to the nature and truthfulness of the evidence produced.”
Luckily a secular govt was ruling when this happened else the policemen might have been jailed and chargesheeted for hurting innocent minorities and showing communal intent!!
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In the mean while The Hindu has started going the usual route. Of completely ignoring the crime of murdering numerous innocent people at Mumbai, while focusing on technicalities and how lose of life gets celebrated/mourned.

An act of constitutional impropriety
The above article would be of importance for people interested in law (chaanakya??). The author is talking about another judicial review option which seems to be available !!?? And Kasab denied that chance. Is this is the same funda which was used to delay the execution of the LTTE terrorists in Tamil Nadu? A High court now hearing the whole thing again, and I guess with rights to appeal at Supreme Court open as well??

The comments are worth reading too. At least some people have started calling the bluff ;).

Two deaths and a common chorus
This article is a bit more entertaining. It is all about people crying/mourning Bal Thackeray's death, while they celebrated Kasab's hanging. BTW, this comes from a 'Gandhi' who was once the Governor of West Bengal. BTW, I am yet to figure out how a person can be forced to 'mourn'. In Bal Thackeray's case yes there was a state wide bandh and people would have been forced to stay at home. That happens in each and every bandh all across the country. In commie land Kerala, there was one yesterday because one commie with a loose and vitriolic tongue was arrested. There again people were forced to shut shops, stop moving on the roads and were forced to stay put at home. Guess Mr.'Gandhi' did not notice that. Or else I would wait for him to come up with some evidence which says Shiv Sainiks forced people out from their homes and made them wait at roads and foot paths, and thrashed a few so that they would start crying loudly ;).
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X-post:
sum wrote:^^ INC has spoken through their new spokesman, B.Raman:
View: Our death penalty laws need to be revisited
Our laws relating to death penalty need to be revisited in order to provide for death penalty only against those acting at the instance or on behalf of a foreign State or non-State organisation. In other cases, life-long imprisonment should be the norm.

The execution of Ajmal Kasab [ Images ], the Pakistani terrorist belonging to the Lashkar-e-Tayiba [ Images ] who participated in the 26/11 terrorist strikes in Mumbai [ Images ], was totally justified. We need have no regret over it.

At the same time, I do feel that even in the case of people acting at the behest of a foreign State or non-State organisation, there should be special exceptions to carrying out the death penalty, to prevent internal disharmony.

The case of Afzal Guru, sentenced to death for participating in the attack on the Parliament in December 2001, should come under this category. He should not be executed.


It is time to re-formulate our laws relating to death penalty to provide for nuances on the lines mentioned above.
There you have it if you were hoping to see another terrorist being hanged!
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^^^ Clear message that the hanging of Ajmal Kasab was just a trick to gather more votes, i.e a clear political move. Afzal Guru, RG murderers etc. can now stop having loose motions, and can come back from the toilets to their prison cells. So fearing (communal) backlashes, death penalty would not be executed.
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sum wrote:^^ INC has spoken through their new spokesman, B.Raman:
View: Our death penalty laws need to be revisited
I am yet to come across a more pathetic argument than the above for making India softer than the softest State on planet Earth. Appalling, to say the least.
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Sachin wrote:
An act of constitutional impropriety
The above article would be of importance for people interested in law (chaanakya??). .
This merits a detailed response . Will post it.
Presently suffice it to say that the Author of the Article is Professor of National Law University yet he has questioned the decision of the President implicitly charging him with bias, prejudice and perhaps accusing him of not taking decision on the basis of merits of the case and materials placed before Him but on the basis of advice of Ministry of Home Affairs. Second assumption he makes and he has no way of substantiating it is that Kasab was not informed of this option to seek judicial review. If he was so conscientious why did he not take up the case of defending Kasab? He could have filed a petition in the court saying that he did not get the best legal advice and he would provide it free of cost.
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HC asks Akhilesh govt: Will you give Padma Bhushan to terrorists?
Opposition parties in Uttar Pradesh on Friday launched a scathing attack on the state government following Allahabad High Court's stern observations on the Samajwadi Party (SP) regime's move seeking permission to withdraw cases against two suspects of 2006 Varanasi serial blasts which had claimed 25 lives.
Does the state govt have powers to 'just' withdraw cases related to terrorism?

25 people have lost their lives, their only mistake is being born Hindus in India.

Where is the fcuking secular media? huh
The court while hearing a public interest litigation challenging the Akhilesh Yadav government's decision to seek a review of charges against Waliullah and Shameem, suspects in the blast at Sankatmochan temple had said "you are withdrawing cases against them, tomorrow will you give them the Padma Bhushan?"
Thanks to Honorable Courts, they are not letting majority community getting persecuted in their own country.
In its election manifesto, the ruling SP had promised to review charges against terror suspects to prevent the harassment of innocents.
Only in India such things happen. Election manifesto promises freedom to terror suspects and call them innocents. :shock:
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chaanakya wrote:
Sachin wrote:
An act of constitutional impropriety
The above article would be of importance for people interested in law (chaanakya??). .
This merits a detailed response . Will post it.
Presently suffice it to say that the Author of the Article is Professor of National Law University yet he has questioned the decision of the President implicitly charging him with bias, prejudice and perhaps accusing him of not taking decision on the basis of merits of the case and materials placed before Him but on the basis of advice of Ministry of Home Affairs. Second assumption he makes and he has no way of substantiating it is that Kasab was not informed of this option to seek judicial review. If he was so conscientious why did he not take up the case of defending Kasab? He could have filed a petition in the court saying that he did not get the best legal advice and he would provide it free of cost.


The author is not questioning the President. He is questioning the HM and Govt. Weren't they supposed to let Kasab/lawyers know that Presidential pardon request has been rejected and give an opportunity to his lawyers to appeal the rejection in a court? If that is required by law, how is that Govt./HM act so arbitrarily.

I agree with President's decision to reject but this political play by CON MAFIA to hoodwink people and break all constitutional norms is highly dangerous to democratic institutions. We need to destroy these tendencies.

Law is law. If they obstructed justice, HM and his CON group should be prosecuted and thrown out. If we had this system of justice where such constitutional violation is punishable by banning him from politics, we would be a better society
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kish wrote:Does the state govt have powers to 'just' withdraw cases related to terrorism?
Don't know if there are specific laws related to terrorism, but prosecution can withdraw cases. At least in Kerala this happens when a new government takes over. Generally cases charged by the previous government, mainly on rioting and public property destruction charges would get this treatment. The government pleader would slyly put an application to withdraw the case (for lack of evidence or what ever it is).
vijayk wrote:Weren't they supposed to let Kasab/lawyers know that Presidential pardon request has been rejected and give an opportunity to his lawyers to appeal the rejection in a court?
If I get it right the prosecution or the government has no need to inform the defendent what are the legal options available for him/her. It was for Kasab/his lawyers to figure out what options are left and try it out. I dont understand why few folks take a stand that it was the government's job to try and save Kasab's life. I am not doubting on the fact that this execution also had political considerations behind it.
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vijayk wrote:



The author is not questioning the President. He is questioning the HM and Govt. Weren't they supposed to let Kasab/lawyers know that Presidential pardon request has been rejected and give an opportunity to his lawyers to appeal the rejection in a court? If that is required by law, how is that Govt./HM act so arbitrarily.
Dear Mr Vijay

quote the last option of seeking a review of the basis of the President’s decision rejecting his mercy plea. unquote

This is what the Author wrote. The Judicial Review is confined merely to ascertain the facts if President came to the decision by perusing all materials placed before him. It is not extendable to the basis or rationale or reasoning by which he arrived at the decision or the decision par se. The case quoted by the Author makes it very clear. Bow by talking about the basis and motives etc he has certainly questioned the President.

Secondly you are casting upon HM or MHA or GOI a responsibility which is not contemplated under the Constitution or any procedure laid under it. There is Prisons Act and there are state Prisons Rules besides providing for such procedure under CrPC. It envisages that Prisoner may file Mercy petition and if Supdt of the concerned Jail knows that such a petition is pending he would wait for the outcome. The Mercy petitions are sent to the President for which very specific guidelines exists. No where it says that MHA or PM or HM would have a responsibility to inform the Prisoner. He case ends with the judicial pronouncement of sentence. Rest depends on his wishes and advise he gets from his well wishers friends and lawyers. The whole thing is highly procedure driven. If anyone makes a mistake his a$$ would be on fire by the Court. If you have any doubt , do advise that Professor to file a challenge in the COurt to ascertain if everything was complied with.
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2002 Ghatkopar blast: Main conspirator held in Hyderabad
November 24, 2012 02:55 IST

The alleged main conspirator of the 2002 Ghatkopar blast, who was working as a software engineer, has been arrested from Hyderabad in Andhra Pradesh, police said.

The accused, Siddique Taj-ul Islam Kazi, who was working in a software company in Hyderabad on a fake name Siddiqui Taj Quazi, was nabbed on Wednesday from the city and brought to Mumbai [ Images ] on Wednesday before placing him under arrest, a crime branch official said.

"Kazi, a banned SIMI [ Images ] activist, is originally from Aurangabad. Soon after the blast, he went into hiding. He had been staying in Hyderabad for nearly 10 years," the official added.

He was earning a salary of Rs 70,000 per month. He was staying in Hyderabad with his wife and five children.

Two persons were killed and over 50 injured when a bomb went off in a BEST bus at Ghatkopar in Mumbai in December, 2002.

Two months back, police received information that Kazi had been staying in Hyderabad with his family. Acting on this tip-off, the crime branch team carried out investigations and finally on receiving confirmation, sent a team to Hyderabad to arrest Kazi.

The verdict in the Ghatkopar blast case given in June, 2005, had left Maharashtra [ Images ] Police red-faced when all the eight accused were acquitted by a special POTA court of all the charges due to lack of evidence.

http://m.rediff.com/news/report/-ghatko ... 121124.htm
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^^^ from another source

Blast accused was active, visible online
Taj-Ul Islam Kazi, the alleged main conspirator behind the 2002 Ghatkopar blasts, who was arrested from Hyderabad on Friday, was so confident about his freedom, that he was active on a social networking site. Kazi had uploaded his profile and even a photograph on LinkedIn, a professional networking site, under the name he had assumed while staying in Hyderabad for the past 10 years.
Bomb blast accused living in India for the past 10 years changing identity, the law enforcement couldn't find him.

This is as pathetic as it could get. Either the law enforcement are utterly incompetent or colluding with anti-national elements.
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http://www.indianexpress.com/news/asif-ibrahim-tipped-to-be-new-ib-chief/1035934/
The government is likely to appoint S Asif Ibrahim as Director of Intelligence Bureau. He will be the first Muslim to hold the post.
Decks were cleared for his appointment after his colleague in the IB, Yashovardhan Azad, also of Madhya Pradesh cadre but a year senior to him, was recommended for the post of Secretary (Security) in the Cabinet Secretariat, sources said. Earlier, Azad was considered to be the front-runner for the job.
Ibrahim, who would otherwise have retired in September next year, would have a two year tenure as Director of IB who is considered to be the topmost in the pecking order of the Indian Police Service.
Seems like Govt had to do a bit of maneuvering to make Mr. Ibrahim as Director IB
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Do you remember Yashovardhan Azad. He is the one who accompanied Indian teams to Pakistan, or went on recce to oversee security arrangements before BCCI sent it's team there.
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Visa seekers: Return ticket, Indian sponsor must for Pakistani fans
New Delhi: The government may issue a multi-city visa to Pakistani cricket lovers planning to witness the forthcoming cricket series beginning 25 December if they provide tickets of the matches and return ticket besides having an Indian sponsor.

A committee formed within the Union home ministry has suggested that tickets to the venue and the return tickets would ensure regulating the visiting Pakistani cricket lovers, official sources said.

The Union home ministry, while giving a go ahead for Indo-Pak cricket series, had conveyed to Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) that it would have to strictly abide by the rules framed for allowing Pakistani spectators to enter into India.
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kish wrote:
In its election manifesto, the ruling SP had promised to review charges against terror suspects to prevent the harassment of innocents.
Only in India such things happen. Election manifesto promises freedom to terror suspects and call them innocents. :shock:
What is your problem? Beebal of Uttam Pardesh including Yindoos saw this manifesto before they bhent to bhote and guess who they bhoted for? Bhat ij your broblem with all this?
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Amend law to stop giving political prisoner status to Maoists, Centre tells Mamata's government - NDTV.com

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New Delhi: The Centre has asked the West Bengal government to immediately amend its Correctional Services Act - 1992, under which seven suspected Maoists have been given the status of 'Political Prisoner'.

In a letter written to the state government, led by Mamata Banerjee's Trinamool Congress, the Centre says that granting such status will have 'pan-India implications' and will give the Maoists an upper hand ideologically.

The Home ministry has also written to Law ministry warning it about the possible 'security implications' if such status is granted to Maoists.

In August this year, the Calcutta High Court had granted 'Political Prisoner' to the suspected Maoists.

The Home ministry has also asked West Bengal to appeal against the order before a bigger bench or the SC immediately. Although the state government had initially promised that it would amend the relevant act, it has refused to answer to the Centre's letters.

Key accused in the US embassy attack case in 2000 - Aftab Ansari - has moved the court seeking 'Political Prisoner' status. Ansari based his argument on the petitions submitted by seven Maoists to the Calcutta High Court earlier this year seeking political prisoner status.

Ansari argued that like the Maoists, he too had been convicted for "waging war against the state", an official said.
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Bhagyalakshmi at Charminar is a legal temple

http://www.niticentral.com/2012/11/bhag ... emple.html

talking about the Bhagyalakshmi Temple in Hyderabad, attached to the famous heritage icon, Charminar.It’s a tiny structure, held very high on the devotion scale by lakhs of local Hindus and happens to be adjacent to Charminar, but not inside its premises.
Encroachment!!
Temple did not exist before!!
These are the screams you will hear periodically, whenever political heat is turned up in old city Hyderabad. Let’s examine the issue using the details from credible authors and important local politicians about the current episode of Bhagyalakshmi Temple.
Two key basics of Hindu worship
Firstly, we must understand one basic heritage of Hindu dharma. Hindus regard almost all things as sacred in this world. Bhagawan or Bhagawati exists everywhere. Go to any village in India and you can find numerous statues or images of Devas and Devis under trees, at the village centre, next to houses, inside houses, next to schools, in front of hospitals/clinics, in shops, in vehicles, in parks and pretty much everywhere. All it takes is a stone to form a temple once people develop enough devotion to that structure. Formal temples built at once using Agama Shastras and Prana Pratishatapana surely help, but you don’t need a formal building for worshiping. In many cases, temples evolve once devotees increase, from the smaller structure before.
So if anyone says the temple did not exist, they must understand that a temple or structure in the current form might not have existed. But that does not mean people did not regard that spot as sacred.
Secondly, one also needs to understand that Hindu dharma is an ever evolving dharma (loosely translated as religion, but not exactly a religion). You might have worshiped a Devi (goddess) in one name today, but a few generations later she might be worshiped with amore contemporary name. My great grandfather worshiped ‘Vinayak’ butI worship ‘Ganapati’, for example. Sotoday’s Bhagyalakshmi might have been worshiped with another name before, as Devis have thousands of names literally (refer to Lalita Sahasra Nama for instance). Bhagyalakshmi may have been worshiped as Maisamma or another name. It is very common in the Telangana area which has Hyderabad in it to have Yellamma, Mahankali and Durgamma as names for devis. But at the core, Hindu dharma scholars will clearly show you the link of all devi worship to the one female power of the almighty.
Why now?
So, why this hullabaloo about Bhagyalakshmi temple now? Politics! Nothing more, nothing less. One section of Hyderabad politics is against this temple (not just today, but before also), while the other section is fighting for Hindu rights aggressively. Supporting the former section of politicians, some papers produce ‘evidences’. It’s usually the same people who doubt even the narration of even the Telangana native Hindu girl Bhagmati becoming Hyder Begum after religious conversion, on whose name Hyder-a-bad has been setup.
Let’s examine the issue from variousangles.
From Books:
Read the current Government of India Minister, and former Under-Secretary-General of United Nations, Shashi Tharoor’s book Elephant, Tiger & Cellphone. On page 42 he describes Bhagyalakshmi Temple at Charminar clearly. The key takeawayfrom this very learned man’s book is this: “But at the foot of the city’s most famous monument, the four-turreted Charminar, sits a Hindutemple to the goddess Mahalakshmi,the priests chanting their mantras for centuries under the celebrated Islamic minarets.”
The book’s online link is here -> http://books.google.co.in/books?id=uqvp ... &q&f=false
Read Srikanta Ghosh’s Indian Democracy Derailed: Politics and Politicians , published in 1997. On pages 73-74 he gives some key information. Srikanta Ghosh was with the Law Research Institute of Calcutta.
The book’s online link is here: http://books.google.co.in/books?id=RGyO ... &q&f=false
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- The Charminar temple was in her memory.
- Even now (in 1997 when the book was written), a Harijan woman is the trustee of the temple.
- Bhagyalakshmi temple’s desecration on November 23, 1979, has no parallel. See this clipping fromthe book, for more details of why the temple was attacked in 1979.
Read Roshen Dalal’s book (page 220) where it is described as to why Goddess Lakshmi is linked to Charminar’s guard. This is more fromthe local stories. -> http://books.google.co.in/books?id=DH0v ... &q&f=false
From the local politicians’ claims:
Let us present three local politicians, who are supporting the temple.
First, Andhra Pradesh Co
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E-mail threat to Vaishno Devi came from Bengaluru - The Hindu
After detecting that the e-mail threat to a hotel at Katra emanated from Bangalore, a J&K Police team went to Karnataka and started questioning a couple running a cyber café in a posh locality.

Authoritative sources revealed that the manager of Hotel Grand Devi at Katra, 13 km from the Vaishno Devi shrine, informed the police on November 24 that a threat to avenge Kasab’s death had been emailed by an unknown sender.

“We will avenge the execution of Ajmal Kasab. We will teach India a lesson. We will celebrate Deepavali in Katra. The flying birds will be fired. Indians will be targeted. Stop us if you can,” the text of the email, according to informed sources, read. The unknown sender’s email address, they said, was syedanwar@gmail.com.
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