Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 16 Jan 2013 02:31

kish wrote:Twitterati is abuzz with tweets about continuous LOC violation. Seems like our guys have sent another uniformed terrorist across the border to jannat, to meet his 72.

Challenging times ahead for UPA 2. Their future hinges on how they handle this issue.

Just like their future hinged on how they handled 11/26. Give me a break yaar. I don't see anybody panicking.

kish · Post by **kish** » 16 Jan 2013 02:43

Altair wrote:
kish wrote:Twitterati is abuzz with tweets about continuous LOC violation. Seems like our guys have sent another uniformed terrorist across the border to jannat, to meet his 72.

Challenging times ahead for UPA 2. Their future hinges on how they handle this issue.
MMS doesnt care. He will spend his old age with his daughter after receiving a generous IMF pay cheque and GoI's retirement package to ex-PMs.
Sonia will be out of the country in a jiffy with her son and a plane load of money putting Gajini Mohammed's loot of Somnath temple to shame.

Atleast the country could be saved from further destruction.

kish · Post by **kish** » 16 Jan 2013 02:48

IndraD wrote:^^ How many people here think politicians are ready with a contingency plan (as suggested for MMS & Sonia)? Not every one can leave in a jiffy.

The top leadership definitely has a contingency plan, as evidenced after Rajiv's death. IMHO, Certain religious minority leaders too have options.

bhavani · Post by **bhavani** » 16 Jan 2013 02:48

The military seems to be creeping back into power in porkiland. Tahirul Qadri is pretty much a creation of ISI and Army. His agenda is quite radical. he has suddenly appeared from Canada.

He seems to be the mullah counterpart of Musharaff. The Media Elites, all the self proclaimed experts of pakistani talk shows, the army all seem to inviting this guy, which eerily reminds one of Mushy.

One can only hope what new hell is this guy going take our paki neighbours into. May be pakistan will end up like Current Iran, but that means all the rich army generals, rich folks from karachi, and islamabad will use their Canada visas to leave their paki land.

It will become a literal hell hole ( i dont mean it is not one now) infested with rats of all kinds, fat mullah rats, talibunni rats, jihadi rats. It will be a Iran with No oil and a huge population and all the crazy mullahs and nukes with an added mix of Talibs and Jihadi outfits of all kinds. Phew What a nightmare for the world. The only option paki middle-class will be left with is to swim through the Arabian sea to reach Middle east or run towards India. I just hope our sleeping PM does not open the borders and let these folks into our country.

kish · Post by **kish** » 16 Jan 2013 02:57

RoyG wrote:
kish wrote:Twitterati is abuzz with tweets about continuous LOC violation. Seems like our guys have sent another uniformed terrorist across the border to jannat, to meet his 72.

Challenging times ahead for UPA 2. Their future hinges on how they handle this issue.
Just like their future hinged on how they handled 11/26. Give me a break yaar. I don't see anybody panicking.

EVM magic, Media manipulation, naive public led them to victory after 26/11. The events of the past couple of years like Anna hazare anti-corruption movement, Delhi gangrape, etc clearly shows the public resentment. IMHO, mismanagement of LOC issue will be final nail in the coffin, no amount of evm magic and media manipulation will work.

kish · Post by **kish** » 16 Jan 2013 03:29

bhavani wrote:The military seems to be creeping back into power in porkiland. Tahirul Qadri is pretty much a creation of ISI and Army. His agenda is quite radical. he has suddenly appeared from Canada.

IMHO, USA is the script writer. This guy is a mere actor, doing things according to the script. He seems to be a consensual candidate for 3 of the 4 power centers Army, Supreme court & politicians (PML, MQM, PTI, etc). Don't know how 4th power center the Jihadi network will react, so far there seems to be no reaction from them.

One can only hope what new hell is this guy going take our paki neighbours into. May be pakistan will end up like Current Iran, but that means all the rich army generals, rich folks from karachi, and islamabad will use their Canada visas to leave their paki land.

It will be an obedient and subservient Iran, until this guys lasts.

It will become a literal hell hole ( i dont mean it is not one now) infested with rats of all kinds, fat mullah rats, talibunni rats, jihadi rats. It will be a Iran with No oil and a huge population and all the crazy mullahs and nukes with an added mix of Talibs and Jihadi outfits of all kinds. Phew What a nightmare for the world. The only option paki middle-class will be left with is to swim through the Arabian sea to reach Middle east or run towards India. I just hope our sleeping PM does not open the borders and let these folks into our country.

IMHO, this is what USA wanted to change. Right now, pakisatan is a world problem (Meaning NATO'S Problem). USA wanted it to be India's problem alone, like how it used to be back in the 90's. Any renewed interest in the western press for the "just cause of kashmir" is a warning sign for our country.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Jan 2013 03:48

Kish, Even the Iranian revolution was brokered by US.

No fear like Khomeini this guy will be a new Pied Piper for Paki rats (Mushikas) and will lead them astray.

What I think is this is the jihadi transformation of TSP system that I was talking about.

What two or three events that will usher in a jiahdi political state in TSP?

And lo and behold we have it here.

A mullah being anointed by US to takeover the jihadi state for all other forms have failed: Pakjab TSP politicians, TSP Army, non-Pakjab TSP politicians.

US is ushering/enabling the TSP to get their own mullahs as leaders.
The sultan model has failed. So back to Amir ul Umra model.

In a few months expect whiskey swilling generals to get qadirfied. same with the RAPE politicians.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 16 Jan 2013 04:03

ramana wrote:Kish, Even the Iranian revolution was brokered by US.

No fear like Khomeini this guy will be a new Pied Piper for Paki rats (Mushikas) and will lead them astray.

What I think is this is the jihadi transformation of TSP system that I was talking about.

What two or three events that will usher in a jiahdi political state in TSP?

And lo and behold we have it here.

A mullah being anointed by US to takeover the jihadi state for all other forms have failed: Pakjab TSP politicians, TSP Army, non-Pakjab TSP politicians.

US is ushering/enabling the TSP to get their own mullahs as leaders.
The sultan model has failed. So back to Amir ul Umra model.

In a few months expect whiskey swilling generals to get qadirfied. same with the RAPE politicians.

If by qadirfied you mean slaughtered, I disagree ramanaji. However, RAPE politicians will eventually eventually be halaled. No doubt about it. PA has allowed the rally to happen. If they really thought he was a threat they would've bumped him off in no time. PA is trying to create a full fledged islamist state now with purist military behind the scenes pulling the strings. They would very much like to create a Paki Spring against Amadiyas, kafir, shias, "CIA agent" politicians and unite the people against India next door. They will try hard to get the Muslims in India to engage in the festivities. We must be vigilant.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Jan 2013 04:10

Yes this Paki Spring. I thought so too but didn't post it.

The nature of Islamist takeover is such that what I predcited will happen even if TSPA enables the paki spring.

Its the nature of the takeover.
Ancient regime will be guillotined. From French revolution to Egypt Arab spring. Only the gruesomeness could be tempered. Mubarak got killed by denying medical attention.

Time will tell na?

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 16 Jan 2013 04:13

Manmohan ki Asha will do all that it can to prevent the Pawki spring from taking Pawkistan down the pakhana permanently

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Jan 2013 04:23

I hate to say this but post colonial Islamist regimes were Western propped dictators who were not representative of the people. Colonialism took out the sultans and in came colonial army officers who became rulers. They suppressed all legitimate modern opposition and only outlet allowed was religious opposition that couldn't be eliminated without much grief. In some cases the relgious types were exiled(Khomieni) or the military rulers took up religious garb(Gaddafi).

Fall of Soviet Union sealed the fates of these non -religious dictators. And over the last two decades the Islamic countries are replacing these dictators, (with or without Western help) with religious leaders. In other words the Islamic world is changing its model from rule by Sultan(non-religious guy in charge of Army) to rule by Mullahs could be in tradtional attire(Iran) or suits (Morsi).

We are seeing that transition as we live.

Vipul · Post by **Vipul** » 16 Jan 2013 04:30

abhishek_sharma wrote:Yashwant Sinha says on IBN 7 says that one of the reasons why Agra Summit collapsed because Musharaff did not want to mention Simla Agreement in the joint statement.

Indian prime ministers should perish the thought of winning the Nobel Peace Prize by extending the hand of friendship to Pakistan.

Yashwant Sinha is a follower of BRF.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Jan 2013 04:47

Vipul, That is a very good rebuttal of Hindu's deluded editorial.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 16 Jan 2013 05:43

kasthuri wrote:
Baikul wrote:Cross posted from the Beheading of Indian soldiers thread:

PA soldier killed.

....survived by a wife and 3 daughters,” the statement added.

He was shot in Kundi

So sad to be culled when he barely fulfill 20% of his reproductive potential

His wife will have to find another ghazi and carry on with the job

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 16 Jan 2013 05:47

Paki Dawn to Evening,From Quaid to Qadri 66Years. Add another 6 (666) before the arrival of deep dark night and Pakistan finally put to eternal sleep by nature.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 16 Jan 2013 05:50

Sushupti wrote:ROTFL!!

Shoot the water tanks and the man is toast. Another Shitistani fraud

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 16 Jan 2013 05:51

Is the rapist goon propaganda yellow daily again suggesting that IA does beheading by using Gen Singh statement as 'proof'?

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 16 Jan 2013 05:58

Suppiah wrote:Is the rapist goon propaganda yellow daily again suggesting that IA does beheading by using Gen Singh statement as 'proof'?

Suppiah. The Indian army needs to behead Pakis to extract revenge. We need a dozen Pakistani heads to line the border fencing posts and a dozen set of testicles to be filled with explosives and set up as IED to blow up a few more turdistanis

symontk · Post by **symontk** » 16 Jan 2013 06:26

But the arrival of religous fanatics in power in Pakistan shows that the pakistan armed force strategy of having bomb blasts / border attacks / Kargil doesn't work. Its a failure of Pakistani armed forces

Now the strategy seems two pronged. The above will continue from Pakistani Armed forces and in addition to that, there will be religious violence inside India which should help the Pakistan armed force strategy

The gentleman from Hyderabad may be the part of religious strategy too. Time will tell

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 16 Jan 2013 06:43

shiv wrote: Suppiah. The Indian army needs to behead Pakis to extract revenge. We need a dozen Pakistani heads to line the border fencing posts and a dozen set of testicles to be filled with explosives and set up as IED to blow up a few more turdistanis

True, but it is treachery for a Beijing puppet yellow to use clever language, mix up LOC confrontation and beheading, and indirectly imply that IA also does behead, when even the TSPA is not saying that....

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 16 Jan 2013 06:54

It is self-evident that preventing a rapprochement between jihadists and the generals is in India’s best interest..... India has, so far, punished Pakistani aggression with a variety of means, conventional and covert — but the seduction of grandiose gestures is growing. Indians must become aware, though, that a more muscular response to Pakistani aggression on the LoC, like all instant gratification, will come with a price that probably isn’t worth paying.

First he implies that jihadists and TSPA are two separate entities and opposed to each other...then provides ammunition to western and paki media by confirming that India takes covert action...

Why are they denying him visa? Perhaps because a passport is on the way? I thought PRC does not allow dual nationality?

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 16 Jan 2013 06:57

The hostility industry: Mani Shankar Aiyar

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 16 Jan 2013 06:59

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-new ... 90287.aspx

US prosecutors are seeking a 30-year jail sentence for Tahawwur Rana who was found guilty in 2011 of providing material support to perpetrators of the November 2008 Mumbai carnage. Rana was also found guilty of conspiring to provide support to a terrorist attack on a Denmark daily. But he was acquitted of charges of direct involvement in the Mumbai attack. Rana is to be sentenced by a Chicago court on Thursday.

kasthuri · Post by **kasthuri** » 16 Jan 2013 07:02

abhishek_sharma wrote:The hostility industry: Mani Shankar Aiyar

What can we expect from a congress MP, other than this?

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 16 Jan 2013 07:27

Photos from the Tahirul Qadri rally: http://tribune.com.pk/multimedia/slideshows/494315/

Note the Helicopter gunship with guns sticking out!

arun · Post by **arun** » 16 Jan 2013 07:35

Simply retch inducing!

Praveen Swami of the Hindu peddles the snake oil that India should passively accept all the violence that the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is dishing out as anything other than a pusillanimous Indian response risks a raproachment between the Uniformed Mohammadden Jihadis of the Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and the Ununiformed Mohammadden Jihadis.

Whatever next? The Hindu and Praveen Swami counseling a battered wife to accept being beaten up by an abusive husband so as not to dent the husbands false notion of superiority and prevent a more severe future beating by accepting the abuse.?

The country’s generals, it shows, hope heightened tensions with India will help rebuild their legitimacy, extricate themselves from a domestic insurgency they are losing, and push jihadist groups now ranged against the Pakistani state to turn their energies eastwards. India, driven by a barrage of ill-conceived war polemic, is pushing itself into this trap.

Indians must become aware, though, that a more muscular response to Pakistani aggression on the LoC, like all instant gratification, will come with a price that probably isn’t worth paying.

Read it all:

Green Books, red herring and the LoC war

disha · Post by **disha** » 16 Jan 2013 07:42

... The Indian army needs to behead Pakis to extract revenge. We need a dozen Pakistani heads to line the border fencing posts and a dozen set of testicles to be filled with explosives and set up as IED to blow up a few more turdistanis ...

For a moment I thought Sushma Swaraj is posting on BRF using BRF Lingo.

disha · Post by **disha** » 16 Jan 2013 07:45

Take out the generator and we have container roast. This is only to show, a dummy will be carted around. The real one will be travelling in a bomb proof benz.

Funny what a chimera Qadri is, fathered by Baki Army, sustained by the kanucks and mothered into prime time by the khan. What kind of animal is that?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 16 Jan 2013 07:48

arun wrote: Green Books, red herring and the LoC war
Indians must become aware, though, that a more muscular response to Pakistani aggression on the LoC, like all instant gratification, will come with a price that probably isn’t worth paying.

It is easy to say the bolded part above and try to create fear. Has he explained what that 'price' would be and 'why it would not be worth paying' ? Obviously, nothing is free and everything comes with a price. Even pusillanimity has a price to pay. Has he compared the opportunity cost of pusillanimity and the muscular response to come to a conclusion ? Has he presented those costs for the benefit of the readers ?

member_23629 · Post by **member_23629** » 16 Jan 2013 07:51

kasthuri wrote:
abhishek_sharma wrote:The hostility industry: Mani Shankar Aiyar
What can we expect from a congress MP, other than this?

This turd is a communist who has infiltrated the Congress. What more can we expect from a traitor who was collecting money for Chinese soldiers in 1962. Unfortunately, he was patronized by Nehru (the patron saint of all traitors in India).

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 16 Jan 2013 07:55

kasthuri wrote:
abhishek_sharma wrote:The hostility industry: Mani Shankar Aiyar
What can we expect from a congress MP, other than this?

Mr. Ayyar is worse than a normal 'Congress MP'. He is a peerless class act all by himself, incomparable. Normally one associates stupidity, arrogance and servitude to the Nehru family as the three important characteristics of Congress MPs. If all the Congress MPs are put on one side of the scale and Mr. Ayyar, on the other, still his side of the scale would be lower.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 16 Jan 2013 07:56

SSridhar Sir: if you or Anujan would write a blog post rebutting Praveen Swami (a.k.a presenting the true situation as you see it), it would be much appreciated. The timing is right. Social Media, especially of the nationalistic variety, is growing in strength.

All of us will do our part in disseminating your insights. Restricting it to just BRF is grave injustice, when half-wits are publishing their vomit

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 16 Jan 2013 07:58

Prem, will do. Insh'a Allah.

PS: Just sent a letter to The Hindu knowing fully well it won't be published. This has been my experience.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 16 Jan 2013 08:10

Exactly. Why even waste time sending letters to the Chindu. We will only bust a blood vessel. Better to create our own media space and let it expand via Social Media.

We should make scums like Chindu redundant

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 16 Jan 2013 08:11

abhishek_sharma wrote:The hostility industry: Mani Shankar Aiyar

This moron belongs to piss and sikular industry

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 16 Jan 2013 08:15

SSridhar wrote:Prem, will do. Insh'a Allah.

PS: Just sent a letter to The Hindu knowing fully well it won't be published. This has been my experience.

I used to post informative BRPosts on DDM sites as comments. Recently first post deleted my account. Need diverse sources to post the stuff.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 16 Jan 2013 08:30

arun wrote:
Whatever next? The Hindu and Praveen Swami counseling a battered wife to accept being beaten up by an abusive husband so as not to dent the husbands false notion of superiority and prevent a more severe future beating by accepting the abuse.?

I think this analogy is catching on here. Please can we stop using husband-wife analogy when describing India-pakistan? This is really disturbing.

Thanks.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 16 Jan 2013 08:32

A couple of thoughts. I will X-Post this in the BR Forum Feedback thread as well:

a) We need the ability to cross-post comments from BRF to Twitter. Either the person who made the comment himself or someone else, with the appropriate attribution. There is more gyan in one page of the TSP forum than in all the so-called strategic analysis in our MSM put together. If SS-Garu for example opens a Twitter account, just BRF followers would exceed 50. We will then tell our friends & it will have a cascading effect. Soon, we have a bunch of heavy hitters on Twitter with a large following and the ability to shape opinion. I dont know if the Forum software allows it or whether we have the source code/APIs. But I think this is really important

b) We should promote Blogs of key contributors on the BR home page. BRF is great as a discussion forum, but its more like a flowing stream. We need not just the streams but also reservoirs, which are collected wisdoms to be used as references. BR Monitor & SRR are dead. Blogs will live.

RamaY: posting comments on MSM and even places like FirstPost are useful but only upto a point. What we do by commenting is that we give more oxygen to MSM, while at the same time it drains us of our energy and provides a channel for our frustration. Unfortunately, it plays into the hands of MSM. We need to change the narrative. We need our own space and direct people to "our space". BRF is one such space. Like you said, we need more such - Blogs, Twitter and FaceBook are such spaces, which are right wing dominated. We need to expand our influence there and create a large mindshare.

This is very possible and BRF is perfectly poised to lead the charge

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 16 Jan 2013 08:35

abhijitm wrote:
arun wrote:
Whatever next? The Hindu and Praveen Swami counseling a battered wife to accept being beaten up by an abusive husband so as not to dent the husbands false notion of superiority and prevent a more severe future beating by accepting the abuse.?

I think this analogy is catching on here. Please can we stop using husband-wife analogy when describing India-pakistan? This is really disturbing.

Thanks.

The Asaram Bapu logic is exactly the same. A girl who is about to be raped should call her rapist a brother before getting raped. The Indian government, with stalwarts like Mani Shakar Aiyer heading the charge, want Indians to "make friendship" with Pakistan before Indians get raped.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 16 Jan 2013 08:43

I mean I don't want to imagine India as a wife of pakistan. even hypothetically. Not in any relation for that matter.