Internal Security Watch

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 30 Apr 2013 15:27

The MQM inusrrection in Karachi had the blessings of PVNR according to BR. The covert ops were dismantled by IK Gujral including the shanti bahini in CHT - he being a WKK.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Apr 2013 21:17

Its good old Pravin Swami of the 'migrating old widow' fame. Can't believe anything he says.

The only truth is his last sentence.

Anyway in 9 years what did MMS and UPA do? Why blame a stroke debilitated ABV who ran the govt for 5 years with constant backstabbing by Congress minions in the media including Pravin Swami?

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 30 Apr 2013 23:48

Army defuses IED in Srinagar, averts tragedy

Based on the intelligence obtained by 2 Rashtriya Rifles battalion about the likelihood of planting of IED by terrorists, an extensive search was launched by the unit during the road opening resulting in detection of the improvised explosive device which was made using approximately 11 Kgs of explosives,” the statement said.

“The IED, constructed using a pressure cooker, was placed in a rice bag near a culvert in the close proximity of the Shalteng petrol pump on the highway. To avert civilian causalities, the troops cordoned of the area, taking adequate security measures and neutralised the IED in the same place employing their expert bomb disposal squad.”

However DDM has this accompanying picture.

Jai ho

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 01 May 2013 01:03

TN cops for the last week are on the hunt for sleeper cells across the state.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 01 May 2013 01:09

shyamd wrote:TN cops for the last week are on the hunt for sleeper cells across the state.

They were not looking for sleeper cells in the weeks before that?

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 01 May 2013 01:11

No, unless tip off provided or by chance came across something

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 01 May 2013 01:23

Thanks Shyamd
Now I understand sleeping sells

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 01 May 2013 01:48

That is just the tip off iceberg, you still have a lot to understand Pentaiahji

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 01 May 2013 02:24

pentaiah wrote:Thanks Shyamd
Now I understand sleeping sells

Your welcome.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 01 May 2013 13:04

Sachin , did you hear about the accusation by KP intel wing about a state secretariat employee spying for TN on water issues?

Anand K · Post by **Anand K** » 01 May 2013 13:53

I suppose Inter-state sniping/spying wouldn't be a new thing. Long before the thanni stealing Thambis

started arm twisting us there had been more serious inter state disputes....
This is what the Kerala CM said BTW

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 02 May 2013 00:22

Sanjiv Bhatt is not a witness, he is a manipulator: SIT

In any country which was not a banana republic, which ours has become, Sanjiv Bhat should be tried for crimes against state.

"Sanjiv Bhatt was never a witness to any meeting held by the chief minister, but he is fabricating everything... (he) is manipulating and has conspired to play the media card in building pressure groups to influence not only amicus curae (in Zakia Jafri's petition) Raju Ramchandran, but even the Supreme Court," SIT lawyer R S Jamuar said.

.................

These emails included the ones allegedly sent by Bhatt to Nasir Chhipa, journalist Subhranshu, activist Teesta Setalvad, the then leader of opposition in Gujarat assembly and Congress leader Shaktisinh Gohil and IPS officer Rahul Sharma (who had collected details of phone calls made during the 2002 riots).

"Sanjiv Bhatt, on whom complainant (Jafri) has placed much reliance and who had started making controversial claims after a gap of nine years after the riots, has tried to manipulate even the media and conspired to build pressure on even the Supreme Court judges who were hearing the plea filed by Zakia Jafri," the SIT lawyer said.

member_26255 · Post by **member_26255** » 02 May 2013 00:48

Dunno where to post it but it is nice. Mods can move it if they feel it is not suitable for
this thread.

Fatah raped that yellow shirt lefty guy.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 02 May 2013 11:05

shyamd wrote:Sachin , did you hear about the accusation by KP intel wing about a state secretariat employee spying for TN on water issues?

I did just hear that. But did not see any thing more of it in the media. So this did not become a major controversy as expected. But during the Mullaperiyar hulla-balloo which happened when the current government came into power, there was another rumour/allegation going rounds. That was that every politician from the "high range" areas of Kerala had good property worth crores in Tamil Nadu. Tamil Nadu police (Q Branch?) was tasked to prepare a good report on the land holdings. It was said that TN used to offer too many doles to Keralite politicians to go quiet on Mullaperiyar issue. Amma was said to be planning to leak this report if these politicians became too uppity. We all know what finally happened at Mullaperiyar (the dam still exists)

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ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 May 2013 18:46

Cabinet okays paramilitary modernization:

Cabinet Okays rs 11000 crore plan to modernize paramilitary

NEW DELHI: The Cabinet on Wednesday approved a Rs 11,000 crore plan to modernize central armed police forces (CAPF) including the Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP) which is deployed along the Indo-China border.

Though the plan was conceived long ago, the timing of the approval assumes significance in view of the current standoff along the Indo-China border.

The decision will also give a boost to ongoing efforts to strengthen ITBP when the government is learnt to have made it clear to the Army that it will not hand over command of the border force to the Army, notwithstanding its demand for operational control of the paramilitary force which guards the Indo-China border.

Sources in the home ministry said the Centre would rather modernize the paramilitary force by providing it more sophisticated arms, ammunition, night vision devices, patrolling equipment and vehicles so that ITBP can do more intensive patrolling in inhospitable terrain along the border.

The plan - which is meant for all paramilitary forces including BSF, CRPF, SSB, CISF, NSG and Assam Rifles - was approved by the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS), headed by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

The entire Rs 11,000 crore will be spent to modernize these seven paramilitary forces in the next five years, beginning this financial year.

Besides ITBP, three other paramilitary forces - BSF, SSB and Assam Rifles - are the country's border guarding forces. While the BSF is deployed along India-Pakistan and India-Bangladesh borders, SSB is stationed along India-Nepal border and Assam Rifles guards the India-Myanmar border.

Though the Army is pushing hard for "operational control" over ITBP for "cohesion, coordination and synergy" to counter the Chinese army's "offensive" acts in the wake of renewed tension along the border, there is no move to change the current arrangement.

"There are glaring deficiencies in the ITBP deployment posture along the Line of Actual Control, along with a sub-optimal weapons profile and limitations in reacting to operational contingencies. Army's peacetime control over ITBP will assist in a coordinated response, better training, operational preparedness and transition to hot war when required," a senior Army officer said.

Countering this, a home ministry official, however, said there was no delay on the part of ITBP in informing all concerned about the incursion by Chinese troops in Ladakh. He said ITBP informed the Army authorities apart from all concerned in New Delhi about it within minutes on April 15 and the armed forces personnel reached the spot within four hours.

Referring to official reports, he said the paramilitary force had noticed the Chinese tent around 12 noon on April 15 during patrolling. It informed its headquarters, defence and home ministries in New Delhi by 12.40 pm and the Army reached the site by 4 pm.

"ITBP is working in close coordination with the Army on the ground. There is no problem of so-called cohesion, coordination and synergy on the question of country's territorial integrity," he said.

So the ghosts of Curzon and Kitchner are still fighing in New Delhi.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 02 May 2013 19:06

Sushupti wrote:Mumbai gets its first Shariah court to settle civil, marital disputes

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 772852.cms

also check this out......

Islamic National Congress of J&K wants Muslims in temple managements. Secular media’s silent assent

THE postponement of the long pending J&K Hindu Shrines and Religious Places (Management and Regulation) Bill for the better management and preservation of Hindu temples and shrines in Kashmir province, promised to be passed in the Budget Session by Chief Minister Omar Abdullah, has deeply disappointed the Kashmiri Hindu community that is upset over vandalisation and continued encroachment of religious properties in the State.
The Bill was first introduced in 2009, but was again referred to a select committee on April 5, after Mustafa Kamal, brother of Union Minister Farooq Abdullah, demanded that the Kashmiri Muslims should have role in the management of Hindu religious places.

Mustafa Kamal insisted that Kashmiri Muslims have been maintaining and preserving these shrines for the past two decades (since the forced exodus of the Hindu community), and hence, as locals and also as the majority community, they must have an official role in the management committees. The National Conference MLA claimed this would help in better management and protection of Hindu religious places as there are now no Kashmiri Hindus in the Valley (or a miniscule number only). Kamal argued that when Hindus take out a religious procession, all preparations are made by local Muslims who also allow the route for it; hence their role must be defined.

This was strongly rebutted by CPM MLA M.Y. Tarigami who said the Bill should be passed in its present form, without delay. He opposed inclusion of Muslims in temple managements pointing out that Kashmiri Pandits are not included in the Waqf Board, and said a very wrong message has been being sent. Tarigami was supported by independent MLA Engineer Abdul Rashid, who said that while the Bill should be passed, Kashmiri Pandits should also come back to the State and face the same hardships faced by Muslims. “They can’t wait till the last bullet is stopped…. Nobody had deliberately encroached upon temple land, rather people have saved it”, he emphasised.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 02 May 2013 19:13

What choice do they have? Dharmics are slowly consolidating.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 03 May 2013 09:42

This was strongly rebutted by CPM MLA M.Y. Tarigami who said the Bill should be passed in its present form, without delay

I have no love lost for the commies. But I remember reading a book by Rammohan IPS who had led a CPMF contingent in J&K. He had made good inroads by developing contacts with Kashmiri politicians. And Tarigami it seems was one of the rare individuals who had the guts to call a spade a spade, and had some thing up in his brains.

Vashishtha · Post by **Vashishtha** » 03 May 2013 19:16

http://www.niticentral.com/2013/05/03/w ... 73065.html

interesting... Btw, how do make clickable custom text appear instead of the url?

member_23629 · Post by **member_23629** » 03 May 2013 19:25

Vashishtha wrote:http://www.niticentral.com/2013/05/03/w ... 73065.html

interesting... Btw, how do make clickable custom text appear instead of the url?

Use the following:

Custom Text Here

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 03 May 2013 22:22

1900 detonators seized

The CISF has recovered 1900 detonators from the Kolar district ahead of the Karnataka elections to be held on May 5th. The detonators beleived to be used by local gangs ahead of the elections was seized from a bus at Baipelly checkpost in Kolar district.The bus according to the CISF was coming from Pummur in Andhra Pradesh. The security staff conducted a routine check only to find a huge number of detonators. They says that 1983 denoators were found.

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 03 May 2013 22:25

Bangalore last: 2 arrested

The police have arrested two more persons in connection with the Bangalore blasts case. Vayalar Hakim and Azghar Ali residents of Coimbatore have been picked up by the Tamil Nadu police. The duo had allegedly supplied the materials for the Bangalore blasts which took place outside the BJP office, Malleshwaram.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 04 May 2013 19:57

Andhra Pradesh bans women from pubs after 10pm to prevent rape. http://t.co/CsjYcErv3u

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 04 May 2013 20:35

shyamd wrote:Andhra Pradesh bans women from pubs after 10pm to prevent rape. http://t.co/CsjYcErv3u

This is only partial truth. The reality is that pubs were offering Free drinks to women . This is becoming an uncontroallable scenario as women are having these free drinks and are creating a public nuicesne (a couple of incidents involving HCU students was reported few weeks ago).

Since the police cannot put forces at every pub and offer secured shuttle services to every women who visits a pub, they suggested two changes
1/ Pubs should stop the "free drinks for women and the men who come with them" offer
2/ Pubs should close the women's wing after 10PM.

This is a short term solution and it will force few things
1/ Hopefully the men accompanying the women also leave early. 90+% of reported rapes are done by people who accompanied the women.
2/ second best solution being women will leave home separately from their male friends.

This means the police are sure of women going home safely on their own past 10Pm. If one starts to go home at 10, they will need to be safe at least for an hour+.

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 05 May 2013 03:00

shyamd wrote:Andhra Pradesh bans women from pubs after 10pm to prevent rape. http://t.co/CsjYcErv3u

Typical idiotic and knee-jerk reaction of police force in the country....as if rapes happen to only those who go to pubs and have drinks.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 05 May 2013 03:21

it does not make sense at all.. what has rape got to do with intoxication. if an intoxicated idiot can rape an intoxicated wimman then they are still in the same sense. it could that i don't understand the mind of intoxicated person.. if i am sloshed, worst thing I do is driving safe, and off highways.

bottom: rapists have got nothing to do with booze. it has to do with rapist genes or his/her education.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 05 May 2013 16:25

'Top cop Pandey, now on run, plotted Ishrat encounter with IB man'

CBI believes Pandey "conspired" with some officials of the Intelligence Bureau who "passed" to him an input that Ishrat and three others were Lashkar-e-Tayabba operatives out on a mission to kill Chief Minister Narendra Modi.

"The Ishrat encounter was planned by top officers of the Ahmedabad crime branch following an intelligence input from IB, which was received by the then Ahmedabad police commissioner K R Kaushik, who shared it with Pandey. Pandey, in turn, shared the input with his trusted aide D G Vanzara," a CBI officer said.

The input is said to have been passed by Rajinder Kumar, an IB official then posted in Gujarat.

The CBI official said Vanzara had formed two teams under G L Singhal and N K Amin (both police officers now in CBI custody) to carry out the encounter killing of Ishrat and three others and Pandey had supervised the "logistics" and "communication" with Singhal's help.
- See more at: http://www.indianexpress.com/news/top-c ... 9h0XC.dpuf

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 05 May 2013 16:33

'Very disturbed, trust eroded': SC hauls CBI over the coals

"Why was there not a disclosure of this vital aspect? When matter came up for hearing on March 12, an emphatic assertion was made by the CBI through an additional solicitor general that nothing in the report was shared with political executives. The court had been kept in the dark about what happened before the first status report was submitted," it said as it scheduled the next hearing for May 8.

Due to the "lurking doubts," the court said, it had sought an affidavit from Sinha on whether the status reports were being shared. It said that the entire foundation of the CBI's probe was "shaking" in the wake of recent developments and that the agency was not supposed to agree on everything that its masters and political bosses asked for.

"If we find that the investigation is influenced by someone who had no business or authority to do that, the necessary inference is that the entire investigation is a farce and a new course will have to be adopted. Let us see what the draft report was and how was it changed. If it was changed to shield or protect some persons, the investigation will be rendered meaningless and reaction of the court will be very different," it cautioned.

The bench, underlining that the prime task before it was now to ensure that the CBI was insulated and liberated from such "extraneous influences and interferences," asked if such an intrusion into investigation was permissible under any statute, rules or guidelines of the CBI even after the Vineet Narain judgment in 1997 in which the SC made it clear that the executive could not interfere investigations.

"You move with the crutches of the government. This intrusion has shaken the entire investigation. If we know there are extraneous considerations and intrusions from all corners, how can the investigation progress fairly? We want to know if this suppression was deliberate. Inertia with the CBI will have to be removed," the bench said and asked the CBI to also adduce details of its officers concerned with the probe.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 06 May 2013 14:15

Intelligence alert over possible terror attack on US Consulate in Mumbai, Kolkata: sources
CNN-IBN has also learned that the US consulate officials are the target. An anonymous letter with Al-Jihad logo was sent to the consulate.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 06 May 2013 14:32

They are testing our responses

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 07 May 2013 16:49

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 1#p1416081

Atri wrote:
RamaY wrote: Maqbul is very close to Abdul Rauf of MIM (This is the network YSR encouraged during his tenure. This is the level of support they got from YSR. People should remember how Rashid Ali, minister in YSR govt, demanded termination of jail term to another terrorist from the famous suicide attack on police control room. That is why MIM went out of congress to make a covert alliance with YSRCP now.). Abdul Rauf and Nasiruddin were culprits in Hiren Pandya murder case. Abdul Rauf was made the MIM district head of Dharmabad dist, Maharashtra(Atriji - What is the significance of this district? What are the associated networks?).
Dharmabad is a town in Nanded District.

This is on MH-AP border and has been a Nizam territory until 1948. Nanded is important city for Sikhs with huzur Sahib gurudwara. This region (Hyd included) was Maratha territory until 1725 when Marathas had to give up their control over Hyd to Nizam *deleted* khan, if I am not mistaken). From 1704-1723/24, this entire region was handled by Marathas. It is interesting that this was the region where the capitals of all great Hindu empires of KG basin were based. Rashtrakutas, Satavahanas, CHalukyas, Vakatakas, Yadavas, Kakatiyas, Vijaynagara etc (I am talking about the region where borders of MH-AP-KN meet. Draw a circle of 150 km from that point and one gets all the power-centers of these empire. This prominence lost after fall of Vijaynagar.

The districts of Marathwada (Aurangabad-Parbhani-Osmanabad-Nanded) are heavily muslim dominated since 1725. Even today, Parbhani-nanded area is almost 50% muslim dominated. Abul Ala Maududi was from Aurangabad and the network of Madrasas which he came from and established are still entrenched in this region.

The armed wing of Islamists in KG basin was Razakars. It is this network of Madrasas mentioned in paragraphs above which trained and mobilized Razakars. Razakars were banned and SIMI took over the mantle of doing what Razakars intended to do. SIMI's "direct action group" which we now know as IM too flourished in these regions. It is in continuity. Nizam - Razakars - SIMI - IM. Post 1795 (the final Maratha-Nizam battle of Kharda where Marathas broke back of Nizam again for last time) the military capability of Nizam vanished and like it is happening in TSP, militia took over from professional military. EIC and later British allowed this happen. This gave rise to what we come to know as "Razakars".

The atrocities and actions of Razakars are too well known to everyone in lower KG basin and need not be elaborated. The ideological centers (akin to Deoband) have been set up in Marathwada since fall of Marathas in 1802 and 1818). Marathwada has been in constant flux between Marathas and Nizam (it remained with Marathas for most part of 18th century, yet, never under stable rule like rest of western and central India.

Talking about Dharmiks here, post 1992, Shivsena-BJP made inroads in Marathwada region, however this hold is faltering. The Maratha lobby voted for INC until recently (Shivraj Patil, Vilasrao Deshmukh). With death of Vilasrao, I think this will pass on to NCP. Marathwada is also dominated by those castes which are classified as nomadic tribes (shepherds). Malharrao Holkar was a shepherd from Marathwada and so is Gopinath Munde. The nexus of Pramod Mahajan (also from same region) and Munde held some forts of BJP-SS in marathwada. Post death of PM and alienation of Munde from MH-BJP, there is virtually nothing much left in Marathwada for SS-BJP. Recently Uddhav organized a massive rally in same region and criticized Ovaisi (he practically said same things which later Togadia said) and got good support there. But, I do not expect that to translate into votes and seats.

Hence, people by nature are compromisers. I do not intend to generalize here, but what I mean by the word "compromisers" is historically they have never done much on their own, which would shift the equilibrium and the status quo towards dharmik advantage. This is very similar to Telangana people, although now Telangana has this additional identity which when coupled with their shitty economy, is motivation enough to bring people together. Agro-Based economy of Marathwada and strong base of Manufacturing and Tourism industries in Aurangabad and region around, Marathwada Hindu people did not feel the pinch. The memories of Razakars are evaporated from public psyche.

The vacuum after death of Vilasrao, is now showing itself. NCP and MIM have filled this void. With Muslim population as high as 30%-50% in most of districts, MIM has clear advantage. NCP has always been darlings of Islamists. You might recall this election pamphlet from Aurangabad NCP candidate for Vidhan-Sabha elections.

This was few years ago. Things have gone downhill since. Aurangabad was always a hotbed for Jihadis (by A'bad, I mean Marathwada). 1992 showed a glimmer of hope but its gone now. Nanded district is already MIM stronghold (or fast becoming one). I will not be surprised if NCP allies with MIM (this may not happen in this election, but after 2019, I am not sure - SP is the sane voice holding NCP on course. After him, things will be unpredictable).

I view NCP (and SP) like I view China in global affairs. I respect them for their role in challenging and curbing (to an extent) the rule of western Imperium. But, like China, they will eventually make a deal with devil (Islamists) to stay alive, in profit and relevant. Thus they will, by their choice and actions, inevitably hurt hindu interests.

One more gem by NCP in Marathwada region of MH..

further buttresses my point above. They have made Aurangzeb a Sufi Saint...

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 May 2013 20:58

Wasnt Aurangazeb called a "zinda pir" in his time? If he is made a Sufi saint that wont go well with the Wahabandis who dominate the madarassas all over the Islamist world.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 07 May 2013 21:17

Finally the Indian Muslims have to neutralize the Wahabi Islam in India and the next generation Indian muslims

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 07 May 2013 21:30

Singha wrote:Intelligence alert over possible terror attack on US Consulate in Mumbai, Kolkata: sources
CNN-IBN has also learned that the US consulate officials are the target. An anonymous letter with Al-Jihad logo was sent to the consulate.

shyamd wrote:They are testing our responses

Add to the mess the speculation about Modi's PM candidate declaration and also October elections.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 08 May 2013 13:11

5 more arrested from Coimbatore relating to BLR blasts. IB reckons they provided logistics - probably part of a larger sleeper cell.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 08 May 2013 14:03

shyamd wrote:5 more arrested from Coimbatore relating to BLR blasts. IB reckons they provided logistics - probably part of a larger sleeper cell.

Will they now be released as party of amnesty now that Congress has won?

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 08 May 2013 14:11

Sanku wrote:Will they now be released as party of amnesty now that Congress has won?

Add to it, the case against Shri Abdul Nasser Mahdani-ji may also lose its traction. One area which would be of interest is how the next Govt. would handle terror related cases especially when a members of a minority community are involved. When Shri Mahdani-ji was in Coimbatore Prison, IIRC a couple of regime changes did happen in TN. But our man remained inside. Will that happen this time as well? Need to wait and watch.

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 May 2013 15:13

It is good news for Mahdani, no doubt about that.

member_23651 · Post by **member_23651** » 08 May 2013 20:22

Congress master plan to put curb on any Criticism of Govt. I think it is more designed to defeat the Delhi/Anna Kind of spontaneous protests.

Goverment of India Rolls Out Central Monitoring System to Snoop on SMS, Online Chats

Government of India started rolling out, rather quietly, a project last month through which it will have access to everything that happens over the telecommunications links in India – be it phone calls, text messages, online activity, and even social media interactions.
The project is called the Central Monitoring System through which the GoI will have unrestricted access, a single window view if we may, to each byte of information that follows across the telecom network in India. Different agencies of the government like the National Investigation Agency as well as tax authorities will have also access to communication data of citizens of India.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 08 May 2013 20:33

Or could be used to catch terrorists, spies etc - who are using these means to communicate....