Kakkaji wrote:DhruvP wrote:Great replies, SwamyG and Disha! Keep up the good work.
But, but, Theo Saar is not convinced.
I am not into convincing anybody. It is their choice who they support or vote or critic. The point is., if you support Congress., please be prepared to explain this:
1. Falling economy, high inflation
2. Rising corruption
3. Pathetic state of foreign affairs
4. Division across language, religious and caste lines.
5. Large inequities
Particularly the 1,4 and the 5th poing need to be defendend by the Congress supporters.
Here is a sample on division across caste lines, this news is now on back burner and nowhere does it show up on google search. Hence reproducing in full. :
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/339 ... isram.html
Caste factor reason behind Sisram Ola, Girija Vyas inclusion
P J Joychen, Jaipur, June 17, 2013, DHNS:
The veteran Jat leader from Rajasthan, Sisram Ola who defied the advise to retire into the Raj Bhavan finally grabbed a Cabinet berth in the latest rejig of the Union Cabinet on Monday.
The decision to include the 85-year-old from Jat heartland Jhunjhunu in the cabinet is viewed as more of a political compulsion for the Congress. The assembly election is due in Rajasthan by the end of this year.
The Jat community constitutes sizeable 13 % of the electorate in Rajasthan and the unceremonious exit of Jat leaders like Mahipal Maderna and Malkhan Singh following the alleged abduction and killing of ANM Bhanwari Devi had created heartburn in the Jat community.
The BJP has been wooing the Jats blaming the chief minister of implicating these leaders to settle political scores. There were also talks of some of these leaders may jump into the BJP bandwagon before the elections to teach Chief Minister Ashok Gehlot a lesson. Another Congress leader who found a Cabinet berth is Girija Vyas.
She is considered as a replacement to C P Joshi who was deputed for party work. Both are Brahmins who belong to Mewar region (exactly the same place of Nathdwara in Udaipur) and were colleagues in the Mohanlal Sukhadia University. But politically both were in the opposite camps.
While Joshi was a Gehlot acolyte and dabbled in state politics , Vyas was considered in the opposite camp including Sisram Ola and was in national politics.
But it was by sheer bad luck that she missed a ministerial birth at the centre to Joshi.
Joshi who was the president of the Pradesh Congress committee was defeated by just a single vote in the last assembly from Nathdwara. There was sympathy for Joshi who brought the Congress back to power but lost out by a vote who was also a strong contender for the post of chief minister.
The party then contested him from the parliamentary seat from Bhilwara and he came out victorious with a land slide margin.
All Congress supporters., particularly residing outside of India need to answer this:
1. Why do they follow Uniform Civil Code of their host countries and why they oppose it in India. If they support it., automatically they should think of supporting BJP.
2. What about candid interviews from the dynasty parivar? None so far. Even the coached ones have failed.
3. Where is their vision? Any discussion beyond vituperative debate on communalism and always something about "I am feeling uncomfortable".
4. Where is their stand on pernicious effect on conversions? In fact, one of the member here openly advocated that other members should convert (nary an apology from the same forum member).
If there has to be a debate., let it be a debate on facts - subjective saying like "I am feeling uncomfortable"., or saying the Hindu right is bad since the christian right or the muslim right has been bad without any evidence is counter productive. It is basically trolling on emotions and is a waste of time and energy (and since it is trolling on emotions., a stronger direct counter should be expected - but is not tolerated).
Regarding Modi, even SC/SIT is defending its own report. At that stage Modi is exonerated. Ishrat has been proven a terrorist or at most a clueless teen head over heels in love with a terrorist. It is a pathetic attempt to arrive at wink-wink nudge-nudge guilt by association.
Ones who feel uncomfortable., what is their stand on Sadhvi Pragya? Let me take a bet here., they will not answer. And if they answer it will be shifted subtly and the blame will be pointed back or something from the left or the outfield will be brought into to trash any further debate.
Regarding Saurabuddin and Kausar-bi another wink-wink nudge-nudge and guilt by association. And now they have brought in Haren Pandya. what about 100s of killing in Mah, Kerala, Odisha, Haryana, Delhi - both political and ordinary? What happened to YSR? To Madhav rao Scindia? To Sachin Pilot? To Karma? Why "madam" is not angry?
Even Brahma cannot make persons wise if they chose to be blinded, ignorant and want to remain unwise.