chaanakya wrote:harbans wrote:The solution to the Chinese nitpicking along the border is simple. Very simple. Derecognize Chinese aggression of Tibet. Claim Kailash Mansarover. Start to reverse the damage done by previous leaders. That message needs to be got through to a potential leader like NM. Obviously while doing all that keep the powder dry.
fully agree. We need to take offensive into their camp.
And what if after these lame announcements by the Government of India, the Chinese intrude even more or worse, embark on a "limited" punitive strike to punish India for its indiscretions. What if then they occupy and keep a fairly large chunk of our territory, a la aksai chin ? Just like 1962 ? Escalating a situation when India does not have the fire power to even defend itself, leave aside "taking the offensive into their camp" would be laughable, if it was not so dangerous. Remember, Nehru in 1962 ? After paying no attention to building up our defenses for years, one fine day, he just woke up and "commanded" the Indian Army to "drive the Chinese out of our territory". The situation today is worse than Nehru's days. Nehru merely neglected to build up our armed forces. Since him, over the last 50 years, we have systematically run down and hollowed out our defenses, mainly due to our internal corruption, which has in last twenty years or so resulted in corrupting of the top brass of the Army too. Besides massive corruption in the Army's procurement process, total apathy and even antipathy among most in our political class to build up our armed forces, over reliance on Russia, over emphasis on "indeginising" of defense production, lack of coherent defense posture and policies, lack of an overall integrated foreign, domestic and defense vision, shamelessness to the extreme, all have contributed to our "hollowed out" defense forces. As if, hollowed out defense forces are not bad enough, there has been no political will to defend our borders. The will has totally collapsed. This is all recent HISTORY. Now let us talk about the present and the future. The present is worse than the recent history I outlined above and the future portends to be even worse. Does anybody see any hopeful signs ? I don't. So, for the sake of argument, even if I agree with you that the Indian government should "derecognize Chinese aggression of Tibet..........", do you see any prospects of the Indian government doing that right now or in the forseeable future ?
I read in a thread elsewhere that Shiv has made a comeback and is upset by this self criticism. "The Chinese blame us and the we Indians blame ourselves too", he said. Well, ok, let us not blame ourselves for the state of affairs. Let us blame all our ills on the Chinese, the Pakis and of course, let us whip our favorite whipping boy again, it is all the West's fault - with massive conspiracies hatched against India everyday in Washington, London, Paris, Berlin, but mainly London and Washington. Yep, Americans and the Brits are so obsessed with checking the (long predicted and long awaited) "inevitable rise" of India as an "inevitable super power", an economic giant, a billion people, that they have totally neglected and even colluded with their Islamic enemies to spend all their time plotting against India in all sorts of convoluted ways. Yeah, I "totally believe" that. Now, have I proven myself worthy of receiving a "certificate" of being a "good, dharmic, civilizational Indian", who sees no evil, hears no evil and speaks no evil about our Godly and perfect Dharmic country made up of all Godlike individuals about whom how can anyone even think that they can be corrupt and idiotic.