Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 13 Aug 2013 17:22

If were him i wouldn't visit any Anglo-saxon atlanticist places until 2014 election is over. Never believe these limeys.

Narendra Modi gets invite to visit Britain

http://www.niticentral.com/2013/08/13/n ... 18210.html

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 13 Aug 2013 18:24

Paranoia much?

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 13 Aug 2013 18:26

BJP doing well with Modi leading the campaign, says Raman Singh

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 13 Aug 2013 18:27

Gus wrote:Paranoia much?

Wish LB Shastri were as paranoid about traveling abroad...

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 13 Aug 2013 18:58

Hari Seldon wrote:BJP doing well with Modi leading the campaign, says Raman Singh

iska mathlab, micromanagement at state level khoob ho raha hai. good news. I think what raman singh is conveying specifically by mentioning modi's name in the statement is the fact that "unlike the previous campaigns where we were receiving diktats from D4 removed from the ground, we finally have a neta who knows what is going on in the mind of the aam karyakarta and the local state unit, someone who knows how to run a campaign and do booth level management".

Arunkumar · Post by **Arunkumar** » 13 Aug 2013 18:58

Hari Seldon wrote:
Gus wrote:Paranoia much?
Wish LB Shastri were as paranoid about traveling abroad...

+100

Modi had mentioned the issue of Britain's Sterling pound balance payment issue of 1947 in the pune rally. I am tempted to believe he views Britain through those lens. Also belgium conferring leopold award on 10j-queen has also not escaped his attention. He rarely ever mentions European success stories. His speeches mainly contain references to Japan, China, South Korea and Singapore. Also he considers India to be Solarpower - rich country rather than an Oil power-poor country vis-vis Middle east. To summarize his inclination is Look east.

UK realizes this and hence the wooing. Also SK visa issue last week was a delibrate tactic to get into his good books IMO.

Dont think modi will take the visit now.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 13 Aug 2013 19:39

How Twitter trends have been rigged - factfile

Must read expose from niti central staff. Simply awesome. So glad that the web has democratized opinion, investigation and common sense. Highly recommended folks.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 13 Aug 2013 19:43

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 13 Aug 2013 19:47

Modi on FSB, takes wind out of congi sails.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 13 Aug 2013 20:07

Big eNrega (twitter and FB bots purchase by CONgress) scandal

http://www.flickr.com/photos/100146337@ ... 030051122/

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 13 Aug 2013 20:18

As per NDTV face book and twiter are now firmly on INC side, We come to free social media.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 13 Aug 2013 20:21

Ajay Maken's Followers are from

http://t.co/QbpCzo3p3V

https://twitter.com/namo_india/status/3 ... 4027400192

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 13 Aug 2013 20:46

Hari Seldon wrote:
Gus wrote:Paranoia much?
Wish LB Shastri were as paranoid about traveling abroad...

Yes. And the answer is don't travel. Perfect.

Have we removed all Sikhs from being bodyguards to anybody?

How about no garlanding ever of anybody.

I am a bit tired of the "oh noes!!!" and the "modi better be careful, I hate to say I told you so, but I am telling you now" and assorted ridiculous paranoia like "don't go to Delhi" etc.

Even if you add such folks to ignore list, the thread becomes (paraphrasing nayakuddin) a toilet floor littered with crap that you have to avoid stepping on....

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 13 Aug 2013 20:57

arvin wrote:
Hari Seldon wrote: ----
quote="Gus"
Paranoia much?
/quote
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Wish LB Shastri were as paranoid about traveling abroad...
+100

Modi had mentioned the issue of Britain's Sterling pound balance payment issue of 1947 in the pune rally. I am tempted to believe he views Britain through those lens. Also belgium conferring leopold award on 10j-queen has also not escaped his attention. He rarely ever mentions European success stories. His speeches mainly contain references to Japan, China, South Korea and Singapore. Also he considers India to be Solarpower - rich country rather than an Oil power-poor country vis-vis Middle east. To summarize his inclination is Look east.

UK realizes this and hence the wooing. Also SK visa issue last week was a delibrate tactic to get into his good books IMO.

Dont think modi will take the visit now.

Modi should stick to India and be single minded in focus on this.

He needs to be like Arjuna on this target.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 13 Aug 2013 21:43

eNAREGA's latest deed. Using the picture of dead for DP to generate anti-Modi trends.

https://twitter.com/TweetinderKaul/stat ... 8542334977

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 13 Aug 2013 22:02

So shameful!

Virendra · Post by **Virendra** » 13 Aug 2013 22:43

She actually openly told a foreign politician on Indian television that :
-- No we don't accept what our Supreme Court says and this is a quality of our democracy. [I am so mad at this mud slinging of Indian democracy. Whoever wants, plays with it in whatever way]
-- No he is guilty until proven innocent.
-- No he is still controversial and untouchable despite absolutely no evidence against him.

There seems to be no shame these days. Ghor Kaliyuga onlee.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 13 Aug 2013 23:08

There got to be some way to book these jokers for some sort of treason laws.

R_Kumar · Post by **R_Kumar** » 13 Aug 2013 23:09

^I will have no problem with this kind of propaganda if NDTV declares openly that they are pro Congress.
They are getting exposed every day so much that now it doesn't surprise you any more.
Even Barkha episode wasn't enough shameful for them and she still pretend to have high moral.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 14 Aug 2013 00:15

what a comic relief!

JohnTitor · Post by **JohnTitor** » 14 Aug 2013 00:15

Disgusting. India has become a dump. I am ashamed of all the sickulars who vote for this.

Kamal_raj · Post by **Kamal_raj** » 14 Aug 2013 00:53

I am so happy to see that interview this really brings the true face of that two bit journalist. She isjust another rabble rouser...Essentially the U.K politician kicked her teeth in the end and everybody now knows that. This is exactly how it should be done very politely.... Made my day!

Regis.....Kamalraj

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 14 Aug 2013 01:52

Even while being biased there used to be some semblance in the past. NDTV has come down to a level where they use "chota mota blasts" and now pleading with foreigners to not allow Modi. Sreenivasan Jain and Nidhi Razdan!!!

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 14 Aug 2013 02:02

Sushupti wrote:
what a comic relief!

Launcelot Gobbos of Madam Merchant of Venice?
They should be called Rawhol Gaandi Youranalists Poletaker Babes.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 14 Aug 2013 02:48

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 14 Aug 2013 04:17

Modi Modi Modi Modi Modi

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Modi combat prod

New Delhi, Aug. 13: The message from Gandhinagar to Delhi was unambiguous: if the BJP has to seriously fight the Congress in 2014, it must be a straight-out combat.

BJP sources said in his recent meetings with party seniors, Narendra Modi stressed that the battle against the Congress should take on the Gandhi family.

Which is why in a departure from its past tactics, the party went on the front foot today in Parliament on Sonia Gandhi’s son-in-law Robert Vadra’s real estate “purchases”.

As late as last evening, top leaders sounded tentative when asked if they would raise the “Vadra matter” in Parliament, following Haryana bureaucrat Ashok Khemka’s recent report to the state government substantiating the “charges” he had earlier made against Vadra.

After Khemka’s first “revelations”, the Hooda government ordered a probe and gave a “clean chit” to Vadra.

Asked if they would pursue the case, a leader said: “It is our desire to, but we have never been allowed to raise it in either House.”

When The Hindu first broke the story on Vadra in 2012 based on Khemka’s claims, the BJP’s young MPs pressured the brass to raise the issue in Parliament, that was then in session.

In an internal meeting, L.K. Advani argued that “personal attacks” against politicians’ family members were not on and that too in the House where the person named was not present to defend himself. Sushma Swaraj, the Lok Sabha Opposition leader, endorsed Advani’s view while her Rajya Sabha counterpart, Arun Jaitley, had reportedly “reluctantly” conceded.

After Modi’s constant clamour for an eyeball-to-eyeball confrontation with the Congress, on Sunday, Yashwant Sinha, former finance and foreign minister, gave a notice in the Lok Sabha seeking suspension of question hour to discuss Vadra.

Sources said Sinha “decided on his own”. The Hazaribagh MP initially opposed Modi’s elevation as the BJP’s central campaign committee chief and threw in his lot with Advani. Eventually, BJP boss Rajnath Singh told him he would either have to reconcile himself to a Modi-led dispensation or feel free to chart an independent course. Sources said Sinha went to “another extreme” to ingratiate himself with the Gujarat chief minister.

Once he gave the notice, Sushma asked two young MPs, Nishikant Dubey and Anurag Thakur, to follow suit. Prakash Javdekar gave a similar notice in the Rajya Sabha.

This morning after stalling both Houses on Vadra, the leaders reportedly decided not to chase the issue. The BJP’s hotheads, however, insisted they should not turn off the heat on him.

Asked why the BJP raised it so late in the day, a source claimed: “It’s election time. We have to confront the Gandhis.”

The BJP did not co-ordinate with the non-Congress spectrum in its anti-Vadra assault.

Belatedly, Biju Janata Dal MPs got into the act yesterday. One of them called Odisha chief minister Naveen Patnaik for a go-ahead. He gave it but by the time the BJD completed procedural formalities, its MPs realised the BJP had stolen a march over them.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130814/j ... gq706yVuYQ

LohPurush truly turned into a LovePurush.

negi · Post by **negi** » 14 Aug 2013 04:23

^ Ghanta uski umar mein love bhi na hoga usse.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 14 Aug 2013 04:25

jsut a few random quotes-

despite overwhelming evidence of misdeeds of congis led by termite queen, still the congis supporters/sickulars believe in them.

even on flimsiest or many a time no evidence agaisnt NaMo - they go agianst him or his party.

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congis have become a den of criminals with anti national tendencies and communla agenda.

still despite overwhelming evidence its supporters do not see it -- something commonly called a 800 lb gorilla or elephant in the room. amazing supporters- and they are well educated and can read talk walk and breathe english.
They are in all walks of life.

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if congis can spend hell lot of money on twitter and facebook which are in relaity of not that significance in a population of 1.2 billion-- Imagine the extent of loot and corruption indulged in India to maintain a stragehold over media and other outlets at regional levels including mainataining a well knit leftists cabal including foreign entities.

At local level at every booths expensive way of maintianing rowdies and goondas mullahs fathers and fake swamis.

It is mindboggling at the vast amounts splurged in crores of hard earned Indian sdres money.

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sureely a very expensive way of maintaining its supporters by the congis.
it will get defrauded soon or rather India will get defrauded soon due to loot by congis.

In a different sort of way-- congis and its supporters are looting India.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 14 Aug 2013 04:31

Looking at these two reports many things become clear. Congis had full assurance from D4 of nothing happening. But Yashwant Sinha in his zeal to impress Modi demolished the Vajpayee Consensus. One surprise attacking move has exposed Congress and its B teams in cow-belt. Imagine the damage caused by D4 to the BJP and its prospects. And this dirty old man wanted to lead BJP for one more term.

Cong tells BJP to go to court on Vadra
UP twins back govt

Congress members were taken aback when senior BJP leader Yashwant Sinha raised the issue in a surreptitious manner. He did not name Vadra but spoke of “a highly connected person who has learnt the art of making hundreds of crores without going to any business school or making any investment”.

As soon as they realised his intent, the Congress members took on the BJP, interjecting with the roar “Desh ke saath” (with the nation) when the rival MPs shouted “Congress ka haath”.

Sinha later told reporters finance minister P. Chidambaram should learn the Vadra model of making money. The Congress spokesperson refused to lock horns on this comment, saying Sinha was free to learn any model he wanted to.

Both Houses of Parliament were adjourned on this issue in the morning but the BJP later relented to allow a discussion on the food security bill.

The Samajwadi Party and the Bahujan Samaj Party, which back the UPA from outside, defended Sonia against the BJP’s attack.

The Janata Dal (United), which broke away from the NDA recently, also showed no interest in the BJP’s sloganeering. The Left supported the idea of an independent probe but did not attack Sonia.

Mayawati took the lead, arguing: “I would like to say if Sonia Gandhi is held responsible for it, our party does not agree with it. If someone does something wrong, his or her relations should not be punished. On the allegations against Robert Vadra, how can Sonia Gandhi be held responsible?”

The Samajwadi’s Naresh Aggarwal said the BJP was “politicising” the issue, which was a state matter and should be handled at that level.

“I don’t agree with the BJP’s slogan of sarkari damaad. We are not in agreement with the politicisation of the issue and dragging Sonia Gandhi into it. I do not see how she can be held responsible for the whole issue,” Aggarwal said.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130814/j ... gq-jayVuYQ

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 14 Aug 2013 04:34

I hope many others in future will emulate Yashwant Sinha and keep on surprising Queen and her D4. If one follows the debate on IBNlive, it was really pathetic watching Sardesai and Vinod Mehta, both whining how Congress never made it personal by attacking Ranjan Bhattacharya. I say go and attack bhattacharya and if possible ABV. My good wishes and God bless you Congis!

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 14 Aug 2013 04:35

Sushupti wrote:Modi Modi Modi Modi Modi ---------

Modi combat prod
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http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130814/j ... gq706yVuYQ
LohPurush truly turned into a LovePurush.

Great NaMo pushing the non D4 MPs to be aggressive. This will be a important turning point in the election campaign.

If termiet queen and her teflon family are brought onto street level dicourse - it is a done deal that congis will face music-- similar to termite queen husband facing the music at street level.

All anti congress parties as in Odisha AP and other places will take cue from aggressive BJP in this matter.

If termite queen and its supporters are brought to shame in the run to elections -- then behenjis and muaalhs will fall in line.
puatachi talaivi and did will have no problems in associating with NaMo.
NiKu will be rendered toothless. Laloo may change spots.

It just needs "ek aur dhakka" to breach the walls of omerta code.

Ovearll if sonia misdeeds recahes a rural folks mind that she is looting India-- I am salivating at this prospect if it really happens.

( I am looking far ahead if it is successful-- )

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 14 Aug 2013 04:43

Advani and his cohorts in the D4 must be afraid that the corruption of their own family members can be brought to light by Congress.

Family members of 'senior' BJP leaders, including those of LKA and ABV, are not above board.

Family members of other opposition leaders have also lined their pockets. Mayawati herself is the queen of corruption.

The whole parliament will have to be changed to clean out the corrupt.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 14 Aug 2013 05:44

There is scuttlebutt that INC took the T-decision after getting the D4 buy-in and before Modi visit to Hyderabad.
Hence the surprise.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 14 Aug 2013 05:53

Gus wrote: Yes. And the answer is don't travel. Perfect.

Have we removed all Sikhs from being bodyguards to anybody?

How about no garlanding ever of anybody.

The bolded parts are strawmen, saar. You're welcome to them, don't foist them on me.

I'm saying 'be paranoid'. Take more than a 'fair share' of precautions. namo's Z+ ensures decent level of control and safety within the country. Don't travel unless you have to. Is all.

I am a bit tired of the "oh noes!!!" and the "modi better be careful, I hate to say I told you so, but I am telling you now" and assorted ridiculous paranoia like "don't go to Delhi" etc.

You're tired? Good for you. Tireless people from Mr Madahava Reddy to Mahendra Karma to Yerram Naidu have all been conveniently removed from the scene *within* the country. Thank gawd for namo's Z+. But that's just me.

Even if you add such folks to ignore list, the thread becomes (paraphrasing nayakuddin) a toilet floor littered with crap that you have to avoid stepping on....

Why visit such sh1tty dhagas then, saar? Why do favors and cast thy pearls of wisdom before swine who deserve not thy largesse? Kindly ignore such dhagas. And posters. Wouldn't be surprised if you make a song and dance about doing so too, while you are at it. Not everyone rides such high horses, after all.

P.S.
Heck, I've tried staying away from the dhaga a couple of times. Didn't work. I was pleasantly surprised how dhagas continue to thrive even when I ceased to visit... yea, really. They die of their own accord at their own time. Good thing too, in accordance with the natural order of things.

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 14 Aug 2013 06:26

Brits might want to kill Modi, just like soviets killed LBS. Even Chavez had alleged that CIA had caused cancer in him.

No specially now its time to be careful, these brits are being sweet but their heart is black.

So yes its something of necessity to take these precautions, anyway why expend energy going to eu, us, canada etc. Skype conferencing can be done.

It was good to see Modi being given water bottle by bodyguards, he knows he's up against the might of NATO + Vatican + EJs.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 14 Aug 2013 06:34

August 17 is the FSB bill vote in Lok Sabha. If the LKA et al want to they can defeat the govt and get the elections underway.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 14 Aug 2013 07:07

^^^

In the current political climate, it will be suicidal for any political party to openly vote against the FSB. The best course of action is to fight a delaying action the way Modi is trying to do. So that he can claim that he improved it.

This put the INc in a quandary. Dammed if they do and dammed if they dont.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 14 Aug 2013 07:12

Kakkaji wrote: The whole parliament will have to be changed to clean out the corrupt.

Not only it does what you want, the reverberations last longer than the immediate effect that's seen.

niran · Post by **niran** » 14 Aug 2013 08:35

NaMo is too clever for kangis and even D4, he is pushing for minimum 65kg of grain per family of 5 per month, if kangis says ok then it will
"NaMo is the savior NaMo ki jai ho" and kangis will get their lungis tied in a knot financing the scheme
if they do not or somehow maneuver so that bill is passed as it is
then it will be
"NaMo is great Kangrez is ebil, down with kangrez"
all iz going to the plan of Snatan Dharma.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 14 Aug 2013 08:49

More mundanely, the tendency to play statesman on the global stage (at India's expense) has been our PMs' bane Nehru down. Only LBS, IG and PVNR were the honorable exceptions.

NM doesn't need global accolades for anything. He is (or at least should be) immune to their flattery or condemnation, blandishments or browbeating, handshakes or armtwisting.

If all goes well and namo sarkar does become reality, let sushma as MEA mantri go on 'em global junkets and wow the world with a rajghat dance on the global stage.

Anyways, my last on this. Peace.