Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 25 Aug 2013 10:54

Om Puri asks

ओम पुरी ने कहा, 'अगर वह रेप करना जानता है तो क्या वह किशोर है? अगर कल पाकिस्तान 18 साल से कम उम्र के आतंकवादियों को भेज देता है, तो क्या हम उन्हें किशोर मानेंगे और छोड़ देंगे?'

Om Puri asked " Is he Juvenile if he knows how to rape? Tomorrow if Pakistan send terrorists below 18 years of age would we accept them as Juvenile and release them?"

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 25 Aug 2013 11:00

Quetta safer for Musharraf than Rawalpindi: BHC

QUETTA: Dismissing the ex-military dictator Pervez Musharraf’s petition for transfer of his trial from Quetta to Rawalpindi for security fears, Chief Justice Balochistan High Court (BHC) Qazi Muhammad Faiz Essa on Saturday observed that Quetta was a safer place for him than Rawalpindi.

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He said the Quetta Cantonment was safer for the former president, as the GHQ in Rawalpindi had been attacked by terrorists but no such incident had ever occurred in Quetta.

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He said Musharraf was attacked four times in Rawalpindi, adding that Quetta was a safer place for Musharraf than Rawalpindi.

“What had happened in Islamabad a few days ago? One governor general, one prime minister and one federal minister were killed in Rawalpindi.”

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 25 Aug 2013 11:02

SC cautioned about Zardari’s possible exit from Pakistan

ISLAMABAD: The Supreme Court was once again cautioned about President Asif Ali Zardari possible departure from Pakistan after the expiry of his term in September.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 25 Aug 2013 12:06

chaanakya wrote:Om Puri asks

ओम पुरी ने कहा, 'अगर वह रेप करना जानता है तो क्या वह किशोर है? अगर कल पाकिस्तान 18 साल से कम उम्र के आतंकवादियों को भेज देता है, तो क्या हम उन्हें किशोर मानेंगे और छोड़ देंगे?'
Om Puri asked " Is he Juvenile if he knows how to rape? Tomorrow if Pakistan send terrorists below 18 years of age would we accept them as Juvenile and ~~release them~~?"

Actually he meant "Tomorrow if Pakistan send terrorists below 18 years of age would we accept them as Juvenile and spare them (or not shoot them down)?"

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 25 Aug 2013 12:46

Excuses to remain darpok and niraash.

Everytime pukis terrorize and kill, issues shift to loopholes - as a valid behaviour under secularism.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 25 Aug 2013 12:51

Well I think Juveniles are not spared. They are covered under JJ Act. So after getting punishment for max of three years we release them having served the sentence awarded by JJ Court. That is not equal to sparing. What he , perhaps, meant was that would we release them ( Paki Juvenile terrorist) if caught, convicted and having served sentence as Juvenile in some Home. Remember Kasab age was ascertained by Ossification test in absence of any age related documents ( not provided by TSP since they disowned him). Till date TSP has not claimed that he was Juvenile even though his citizenship was established by Journos in Piggistan.

Sparing them would mean not booking the case which is not true. Juveniles are booked under special Law. So that translation stays.

kidoman · Post by **kidoman** » 25 Aug 2013 17:50

One porki army major killed when he accidentally fell into a ravine near LoC. Seems allah also wanted to see their tally increase.That's make it 6 and equals casualty on Indian side post Aug 6th. Also a paki women was killed and seven others injured in Indian firing.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/594984/loc- ... al-sector/

member_26255 · Post by **member_26255** » 25 Aug 2013 22:09

Eight killed, including ASWJ spokesman, in Karachi violence

KARACHI: At least eight people were killed, Including the spokesperson for the Ahle Sunnat Waljamaat (ASWJ), in various incidents of violence in Karachi on Sunday, DawnNews reported.

The spokesperson for the ASWJ, Maulana Akbar Saeed Farooqi, was injured in a gun-firing incident near Safari Park in Karachi's Gulshan-i-Iqbal area.

He was shifted to a hospital for treatment where he later succumbed to his injuries.

In another incident unknown persons killed two people in Sector A area of Karachi's Surjani town. Fear and panic gripped the locality after the incident.

Another person was gunned down in New Karachi's Ayub Goth area.

One person was killed in Zia colony of Karachi's Korangi area whereas another was killed in Korangi area's Bilal colony area.

Moreover two bodies, bearing marks of torture, were recovered from the Korangi Creek in Ibrahim Hyderi area of Karachi. The bodies were not identified till the filing of this report.

member_26255 · Post by **member_26255** » 25 Aug 2013 22:11

Pakistan orders indefinite shut down of govt offices near LoC

MUZAFFARABAD: Amidst continuous unprovoked firing from the Indian Army across the Line of Control, Pakistan ordered complete shutdown of government offices near the area , Express News reported on Sunday.
All the offices within 3 kilometres of the Line of control were ordered to be shut for an indefinite period.
Earlier in the day, firing from Indian Army allegedly killed two women and wounded seven civilians in Kashmir, Pakistan authorities claimed.
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pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 25 Aug 2013 22:21

Terrorist held, 12 tons of explosives seized in Khyber Agency

At least 60 bags of potassium chlorate, mortar shells, timers, landmines, detonators, fuses, improvised explosive device circuits and gel explosives were recovered from the basement of the house, Colonel Mohammad Naeem Sarwar told AFP.

A suspect was arrested during the raid, which was carried out after a roadside bomb wounded three civilians in the area on Saturday, he said.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 25 Aug 2013 22:31

World Bank ready to provide performance-based support to Pakistan, says new VP

Islamabad: The new vice president of World Bank Group's South Asia region has said the lending agency is ready to provide policy and performance-based support to Pakistan.{What kind of haram talk is this}

Philippe Le Houerou said that the World Bank Group is ready to assist the Pakistan government in reform implementation through policy and performance-based support.

Le Houerou added that the complex challenges facing the country call for not only implementation of multi-sectoral fundamental reforms and investments but also their careful sequencing, the Express Tribune reports.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 26 Aug 2013 01:42

Pakistan: Jihad Commander Urges Muslim Youth To Replicate Benghazi: 'Just As They Assaulted And Destroyed The American Embassy, Destroy The Embassies Of Europe'

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atla ... stroy.html

Today's mantra (today and every day of this relentless bloody jihad on the West): The war transcends borders, nations, race, etc. It is global and it is jihad. And as the West continues to pretend that it not Islamic, Muslim supremacists gain more ground. Maulana Asmatullah Muawiya, a key militant commander of Tehreek-e-Taliban Punjab (TTP) whose threat forced Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to postpone the scheduled hanging of three top militants in mid-August, has called for attacks on European embassies across the world.
In a high-definition video released by Umar Media, the broadcasting arm of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan which is headed by Hakimullah Mehsud, Maulana Asmatullah Muawiya urges Muslim youth to replicate the attack on the US mission in Benghazi, Libya

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 26 Aug 2013 02:00

A case of donor fatigue?

Cheers

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 26 Aug 2013 02:06

Pakistan has lost more than $100 Billion in the war against monsoon and is the front line ally against monsoon. International community should donate more.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 26 Aug 2013 03:21

‘No More International’: India considers Kashmir battle ‘won’

NEW DELHI: The Indian government believes it has won the battle along the Line of Control (LoC) by preventing the ‘internationalisation’ of the lingering dispute over the Himalayan state of Kashmir.

In an interaction with reporters in Hyderabad, external affairs ministry spokesperson Syed Akbaruddin said the dispute between India and Pakistan over Kashmir was no longer an international issue.

“[The Kashmir dispute] is not an international issue anymore … it is an issue between India and Pakistan,” said Akbaruddin. “No one on any international forum is focused on this issue … nobody is raising the matter elsewhere … this is success in itself,” he added.

While Pakistan has repeatedly called for a plebiscite in Kashmir in accordance with the United Nations resolutions, India has always maintained that the dispute is a bilateral issue between the two nations.

India and Pakistan have fought three wars since their independence from Britain in 1947 – two of them over Kashmir.

Kashmir is divided between India and Pakistan by the UN-monitored LoC, but is claimed in full by both countries. It lies at the heart of more than 60 years of hostility between India and Pakistan.

Cheers

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 26 Aug 2013 03:37

As the khans drawdown from Afghanistan, one can see Pakistan's itch to heat things up in J&K.

So they start off with LOC incidents, they'll be actively encouraging trouble in the valley and the adjoining hill towns like doda, kishtwar etc.
If a new Pak Army chief comes in, he will have to prove his mettle by doing his initiation thingie by staging a mini war with India. (It usually ends in them downhill skiing, but hey as long as the mango abdul and ayesha at home can be fooled and only told that Pakistan won, all iz well)

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 26 Aug 2013 04:41

No More International’: India considers Kashmir battle ‘won’
http://tribune.com.pk/story/595309/no-m ... attle-won/

NEW DELHI: The Indian government believes it has won the battle along the Line of Control (LoC) by preventing the ‘internationalisation’ of the lingering dispute over the Himalayan state of Kashmir.In an interaction with reporters in Hyderabad, external affairs ministry spokesperson Syed Akbaruddin said the dispute between India and Pakistan over Kashmir was no longer an international issue.“[The Kashmir dispute] is not an international issue anymore … it is an issue between India and Pakistan,” said Akbaruddin. “No one on any international forum is focused on this issue … nobody is raising the matter elsewhere … this is success in itself,” he added.While Pakistan has repeatedly called for a plebiscite in Kashmir in accordance with the United Nations resolutions, India has always maintained that the dispute is a bilateral issue between the two nations.India and Pakistan have fought three wars since their independence from Britain in 1947 – two of them over Kashmir.Kashmir is divided between India and Pakistan by the UN-monitored LoC, but is claimed in full by both countries. It lies at the heart of more than 60 years of hostility between India and Pakistan

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 26 Aug 2013 05:20

JK issue will be "won" only after we have driven out the Pakis our of PoK.
Until then we have not won.

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 26 Aug 2013 09:18

Peregrine wrote:A case of donor fatigue?

Cheers

Donor fatigue? No problem, we are Bakistanis. Let's kidnap a few donors and threaten to make Donor Kebab.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 26 Aug 2013 17:16

Baikul wrote:
Peregrine wrote:A case of donor fatigue?
Donor fatigue? No problem, we are Bakistanis. Let's kidnap a few donors and threaten to make Donor Kebab.

Baikul Ji : I think - in the words of Pakistan Army Major (Retd) Kamran Shafi - the Indian Authorities should threaten to make "Kebab Boti" of the "donors". Surely this would be more Pakitorturous!

Cheers

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 26 Aug 2013 19:02

As the khans drawdown from Afghanistan, one can see Pakistan's itch to heat things up in J&K.

So they start off with LOC incidents, they'll be actively encouraging trouble in the valley and the adjoining hill towns like doda, kishtwar etc.

That is the whole issue with an Islamic state like Pakistan. Either the Govt smashes down the Jihadi's and rules with an iron fist like Mubarak, Saddam or Assad, or OTOH if it encourages some degree of freedom it ends up with Jihadi IED's on it's own street protesting democracy or freedoms as unislamic and for more Islam. So when a country tries to maintain a facade of democracy it needs to nurture and give the Jihadi's some mission. Paki's achieve that vent in JK and Afghanistan plus now assorted areas in the world. Why the hell should Paki's allow more democracy and freedoms and good relations with India inviting assorted jihadi's to IED all over Peshawar, Lahore and Isloo?

Thus ironically the more we talk peace, encouraging democracy and institutions in Pakistan, we encourage one very prudent section of the Paki establishment to open venting stages in the LOC, JK, Afghanistan. When these silly Aman's get serious so does that part of the establishment in Pakistan that realizes then that the Jihadi's will come home to roost or roast them..so they better do something like creating more vent valves like 26-11, parliament attacks, LOC, J&K killings, Afghanistan nonsense etc. Remember earlier i had posted increased Jihadi activity including war/ attacks on the LOC whenever India-Pak started cricketing ties. The same applies to the peace kind of ventures. So ironically talking peace and chai biscoot and really improving upon relations will invite more attacks on us. Every Paki sponsored event in the last 25 years bears witness to this logic and it shall continue till Muslims are majority in India and Islamic rule settles down in India.Then it;s all over. And the time frame for that is less than 2 quick generations or 50 years whichever is faster.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 26 Aug 2013 19:21

Kufr yindus did you know that whatever little progress India has made from Rajiv Ghandhi's time was courtesy The Prophet and his foremost chela. In that sense, yindu India owes its progress to the Islamic thought. Mythmaking ... Paki style

Ali (RA) on governance

Dr A Q Khan
Monday, August 26, 2013
From Print Edition

It is reported that transcripts of Ali’s letter were kept at the UN by Secretary General Kofi Annan and that Rajiv Ghandhi gave a copy to his ministers for guidance.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 26 Aug 2013 20:48

http://zeenews.india.com/news/south-asi ... 71691.html

‘Bania’ India can’t attack Pakistan, says Hafiz Saeed

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 26 Aug 2013 21:02

Pakis making fun of Chanakya. Making fun of a concept one does not understand or can never replicate.

rajsunder · Post by **rajsunder** » 26 Aug 2013 21:38

chaanakya wrote:Well I think Juveniles are not spared. They are covered under JJ Act. So after getting punishment for max of three years we release them having served the sentence awarded by JJ Court. That is not equal to sparing. What he , perhaps, meant was that would we release them ( Paki Juvenile terrorist) if caught, convicted and having served sentence as Juvenile in some Home. Remember Kasab age was ascertained by Ossification test in absence of any age related documents ( not provided by TSP since they disowned him). Till date TSP has not claimed that he was Juvenile even though his citizenship was established by Journos in Piggistan.

Sparing them would mean not booking the case which is not true. Juveniles are booked under special Law. So that translation stays.

No body is talking about sparing them, the question is simple Om Puri wanted to know if we are going to treat the killer of 100+ Indians as a juvenile or are we going to have a special treatment for such kind of crimes and prosecute them as adults.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 26 Aug 2013 21:48

I understand what you say and agree that is why I said the word"Spare" is not correct translation.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 26 Aug 2013 22:01

The ‘Appease India’ syndrome

The strategic and political environment in the Indo-Pak subcontinent is violently rocking back to its erstwhile state of volatility and uncertainty. Events astride, the livewire LoC threaten to sabotage all chances of a rapprochement between the two belligerents. The critical political and military balance of the past few years is threatening to go out of kilter and consigning the peoples of Indo-Pak subcontinent to many more years of animosity, stunted economic growth, poverty and misery.
The two countries seem to be prime victims of their own rhetoric and political posturing; India more so than Pakistan. They seem to be drifting, uncontrollably and apparently unknowingly, towards an abyss; one they can easily avoid.
The Indian PM and his government appear helpless to stem this drift and the resultant rot in their bilateral relations with Pakistan.
The situation, however, is compounded by a rather strange and inexplicable paradox. While the Pakistan government (and a horde of fifth columnists) is adamant on pursuing a policy of conciliation that borders on rank, almost supine appeasement towards the Indians, the latter’s intransigence and arrogance continues to grow by leaps and bounds. India’s fixation on its misplaced and imaginary sense of superiority and self-importance has always been incomprehensible and nauseating.
Indian intransigence is driven by many factors. Extracting political dividends from the vagaries of Indo-Pak relations is one of the major ones. The political dimension is dominated by the coming elections in India. The BJP and Congress are positioning themselves to extract maximum political mileage from this current degeneration of the bilateral strategic environment. Resultantly, the Indian President and PM were openly hostile and derogatory towards Pakistan in their Independence Day speeches. It remains to be seen whether the two PMs can still manage to keep their appointment on the sidelines of the UNGA Session in New York in September.
The military dimension has worsened by the hour. Rhetoric, bullets and artillery shells are flying fast and thick and in equal measure across the LoC and the working boundary. These incidents have caused the BJP to ratchet up the political ante by accusing the ruling Congress Party of being “soft” on Pakistan and literally forcing it to backtrack on its efforts to improve relations with it. The Indian Army Chief General, Bikram Singh, added more fuel to the fire by coming out with rather unnecessarily brash and boastful statements that further vitiated the situation. As a result, the incidents of firing across the LoC have multiplied and so have the casualties on both sides.
Thus, the Indian opposition and the Indian military have (conspired-?) between them scuttled the chances of subcontinental dialogue and peace for the present and the immediate future.
The Indians, it seems, have taken this confrontational road out of fear that once the US/Nato/Isaf combine leaves Afghanistan, it will free up many militant groups from astride the Durand Line, who will be without an enemy to chase and confront. They expect them to turn their attention towards Indian Held Kashmir (IHK) and initiate yet another bout of militancy. By falsely accusing Pakistan and heating up the LoC, the Indians hope to pre-empt it. They hope to convince the international community to pressurise Pakistan to somehow block this latent militant threat. India is likely to spike up its destabilising activities in Balochistan and Fata.
The US-UK combine too has a role to play in the murky and bloody politics of the Indo-Pak subcontinent. Was the current regime change in Pakistan a true democratic exercise or was it preordained? How may we explain the utter lack of a political campaign by the PPP - arguably the most lively, vociferous politically active party? And where was their never-say-die party leadership? Something is definitely amiss in this state of Denmark!
The unprecedented visits of the British PM David Cameron and FS William Hague immediately after our elections remain unexplained and enigmatic. What were the reasons for their rather speedy engagement of PM Nawaz Sharif? They were followed by US Secretary of State John Kerry.
The similarities of the US-UK combine’s interests in the subcontinent and Sharif’s “vision” are noteworthy. And is PM Sharif’s policy of appeasement towards India a result of this confluence of visions? Is Pakistan to be weaned away from China and embroiled in subcontinental solutions to its economic and development woes? Or is it also a prelude to easing up regional economic integration and opening borders and routes to facilitate the US inspired and led New Silk Road Project?
The approach of the Pakistan government towards India needs to be revisited. It must, without fail, uphold, secure and promote Pakistan’s national interests, dignity, self-respect, pride and honour. The current stance might be the result of PM Sharif’s “vision” to evolve a peaceful environment in the Indo-Pak subcontinent as a prelude to achieving regional economic integration with the rest of South Asia, Central Asia, ME and beyond. These are laudable intentions indeed; however, it always takes two to tango. Pakistan must not, unilaterally, carry on with this policy of appeasement, while the Indians continue to kill its brave soldiers and civilians on the LoC with disdain and dismissive arrogance. It is unacceptable to Pakistan.
It is in India’s interest to free itself from the paradigms that tether it to Pakistan and comprehensively limit it to the subcontinent. Of necessity, it must resolve all outstanding issues with Pakistan, including Kashmir, the Indus Waters Treaty problem, Siachen, Sir Creek, et al. Only then will it be able to grow in strategic reach and stature. It will then be able to take advantage of the massive economic developments that are likely to take place in the South-Central Asian Region in the foreseeable future.
India has presumably loftier geopolitical and strategic designs and ambitions. To seek them, it must “free” itself from the debilitating “Pakistan Syndrome”. It is its call to make.
Appeasing India is unnecessary and redundant. Pakistan must always act and conduct itself as a self-respecting nuclear power ought to.

The writer is a retired brigadier and a former defence attaché to Australia and New Zealand. Currently, he is on the faculty of NUST (NIP-CONS).

If amreeka had neo-cons bakistan has nip-cons.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 26 Aug 2013 22:25

^Written by an ISI propaganda department novice, recently North Korea/China returned.

The fact is that Indians are inflicting substantial punishment on the LOC and all Pakistan can do is put its hand up Hafeez sahib's chaddi and have him mouth Islamist imbecilities. While the tall Panjabi mussalman, handsome and radiant, get pulverised in their bunkers.

When the Indian guns open up, they resort to their masjids; does it count towards the daily five?

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 26 Aug 2013 22:51

How bad or good are the Paki's getting it on the LOC? Any inputs?

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 26 Aug 2013 23:02

they resort to their masjids

In the video too, one Paki brigadier(?) said that they have mosques when evil Hindoos rain nukes on them, also in recent cross LOC transmission intercepts too, they asked their between-legs-tail-tucked herroes to return back to mosques. Seems like they are being trained well for the doomsday. What is this deal about hiding in mosques? do they expect our mijjiles to be 'secular' and leave the mosques untouched?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 26 Aug 2013 23:04

Most likely after the US-NATO combine leaves Af-Pak, the Paki Taliban will take over TSP.
TSPA will shed their briefs and change into kacchas.

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 26 Aug 2013 23:14

anupmisra wrote:Pakis making fun of Chanakya. Making fun of a concept one does not understand or can never replicate.

Eight centuries of inbreeding has turned the Pakis into dumb-asses morons, I can't stand 99% of their TV content.

member_26255 · Post by **member_26255** » 26 Aug 2013 23:14

harbans wrote:How bad or good are the Paki's getting it on the LOC? Any inputs?

Express Tribune says Indian cross-border firing in Kashmir forces residents to flee

http://tribune.com.pk/story/595416/indi ... s-to-flee/

Dunya news says 3 Indian soldiers killed in retaliatory fire.

http://dunyanews.tv/index.php/en/Pakist ... es-retalia

One must wonder that how suwaristani army can be so confident about the casualties/losses/injuries on
our side.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 26 Aug 2013 23:19

Zia ul-Haq's legacy in Pakistan 'enduring and toxic'

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 26 Aug 2013 23:24

India cannot attack Pakistan; it can only fight like 'women': Hafiz Saeed

Wah! Wah! Hafiz sahib ... You mean the Great Pakistani army was defeated in 48, 65, 71 and kargil by a bunch of women!!!

Once a suar always a suar I guess.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 26 Aug 2013 23:31

pankajs, In San Diego zoo there is an animal called Bearded Pig.
I guess hafeez suar is a human version.

ashish raval · Post by **ashish raval** » 26 Aug 2013 23:34

Nice, seems someone's backside is on fire after mujahid tatto's are falling like rats from the hills of Kashmir. I will not stop shelling till every bunker is flattened.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 27 Aug 2013 00:13

Shahzad Choudhry in some Paki paper..

A recent article in the Indian Defence Review (IDR) has this to say: “Creating a proxy war in Balochistan to sever it from Pakistan is in the direct interest of India”. This interest was further amplified by no less a person than Professor Brahma Chellaney, a leading Indian strategic thinker, who suggested that ‘just as India cut Pakistan to size in 1971, there was a need to further fragment it. For it to happen India need not fight a war; unconventional means should be resorted to’. I paraphrase, of course. The implication is pretty obvious: eliminate Pakistan’s power potential by cutting it down in size – literally.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9 ... t-of-truth

Brahma Chellany on choo choo..

Brahma Chellaney ‏@Chellaney 13m
Fabrication: A false quote attributed to me in a Pakistani newspaper, The News International, by one Shahzad Chaudhry http://goo.gl/7lt9eI
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Moral: How unusual..a Paki lying!!

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 27 Aug 2013 00:18

Unusual part is pukis caught lying openly.

MurthyB · Post by **MurthyB** » 27 Aug 2013 02:34

Uneven Cohen drops his brilliant bits of horse wisdom to a school boy from Tehelka about India-Shitland relations. Around 8:30 he talks about a "dual strategy" that involves strat-e-gy experts at the top, and actual kandle kissers at the bottom to affect change that will enable normalization. Also produces a new insight about India that it has an "inferiority complex" vs Shitland; this is based on his earlier statement that a minority in India sees Pakistan as a failed state and wants nothing to do with them.