Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 30 Oct 2013 15:07

^ Sure. NM is catching peoples imagination and his credibility is a product of a campaign based on lies and deceit. Must realize that over eagerness to use deceit and fog as tools will sully the larger credible picture.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 30 Oct 2013 15:16

tactical brilliance is usually strategically stupid, as the paki example has taught us.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 30 Oct 2013 15:25

NM has to be as white as driven snow given the cabal which is working overtime to find anything to use against him.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 30 Oct 2013 15:35

A general rule cannot be made. Chanakya acknowledges that deception has an important role. Deceiving some one with evil intentions, for a good cause, is a valid tactic.

However the particular plan being discussed plays with the expectations of poor people, and hence cannot be recommended.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 30 Oct 2013 15:52

You cannot beat congress using their own game. Good governance itself is good enough to get votes fo NaMo.

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 30 Oct 2013 16:09

Shikhandi vs Bhishma. Anything to ensure the victory of dharma. It is your intention which forms your karma not the actual deed. Otherwise nobody kills and no one is killed.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 30 Oct 2013 16:18

If mafia goes ahead with the division of Ap then bjp should promise Jammu, Ladakh ut, bodoland, gurkhaland etc and pic up these seats. No need for assembly resolution etc as the same is not being done in case of AP.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 30 Oct 2013 16:29

Seventeen parties together against communalism: Nitish at convention on Third Front

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 30 Oct 2013 16:31

Narayana Rao wrote:If mafia goes ahead with the division of Ap then bjp should promise Jammu, Ladakh ut, bodoland, gurkhaland etc and pic up these seats. No need for assembly resolution etc as the same is not being done in case of AP.

You are just too much attached to so called untied AP and for you if that is not there then India has to collapse. Even if T formation is an evil, that should not be a reason for entire world to end. Stop this line please.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 30 Oct 2013 16:41

Bjp already promised Jammu state, Ladakh ut, Jaswanth Singh was put up in Dargiling with a understanding on Gurkhaland, Bodo people
are forced to fight Bangladesi invader mobs under Assam. So if all these steps are very bad why bjp supported these thing earlier.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 30 Oct 2013 16:50

What is good about that bike rally is that there are no cops in sight ( in that picture) and yet the bikers did not encroach the road and obstruct the oncoming traffic. There is easily 40-50 bikes in that picture with around 70-80 people and it shows the motivation and discipline among the bikers. Feels good.

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 30 Oct 2013 17:00

Pratyush wrote:Seventeen parties together against communalism: Nitish at convention on Third Front

goons conference...are the 17 nitwit associations listed anywhere ?

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 30 Oct 2013 17:21

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 30 Oct 2013 17:35

Please give as much publicity as possible

Big Apple’s rotten lies: Mischief, misinformation of New York Times

Miracle At Gandhi Maidan

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 30 Oct 2013 17:35

Please give as much publicity as possible

Big Apple’s rotten lies: Mischief, misinformation of New York Times

Miracle At Gandhi Maidan

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 30 Oct 2013 18:09

November 7th all party meeting on division of AP. BJP continue to support division as per Kishan reddy. Mafia plans continue in AP.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 30 Oct 2013 18:19

kmkraoind wrote:I have a khatarnak idea to spoil Congress' victory and threw its cadre in confusion. Anyhow people all know that Congress is a den of corruption and have tons of money.

Just spread rumors and build shoddy propaganda machine, that tells people that: Since Congress is facing do-or-die situation with NaMo,they have decided to brazen out with all their money. Now they are offering 20K for every vote. Now fun begins, as usual if Cong tries to bribe voter with a liquor/saree+500-1000 currency note, people will rebel and asks their 20K or will vote for NaMo.

this should be only done with gov organized setup, like CBI, NSA etc to catch the corrupt bribers. this should not be done by taking law under hands from public for whatsoever good intention is.. imho, 108--

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 30 Oct 2013 18:26

Narayana Rao wrote:Bjp already promised Jammu state, Ladakh ut, Jaswanth Singh was put up in Dargiling with a understanding on Gurkhaland, Bodo people
are forced to fight Bangladesi invader mobs under Assam. So if all these steps are very bad why bjp supported these thing earlier.

Just because some fools in bjp and rss have promised these, it does not make it right. The whole insurgency nonsense in NE/china problem etc.. would not have started if not greater assam was not destroyed to create these 7 states. Splitting J&K will be a even bigger disaster. Just becos Jaswant's parochial interests led him to support Gorkhaland, it does not make it right. Damn, such a small state will never have a administration to even collect basic intelligence on chinese snooping in their territory.

negi · Post by **negi** » 30 Oct 2013 18:30

^ States don't do any intelligence gathering regarding other countries; all such agencies are under central government. There are far more important factors which need to be discussed regarding Gorkhaland than snooping on the Chinese whatever little they do it will be better than commies in WB.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 30 Oct 2013 18:39

if states are affected parties to insurgencies with no effective solutions from coming central gov, then it is states right to protect itself (meaning people's right to protect themselves ultimately).. under democratic norms, people can engage security services for their private security, they can engage with state machine to form a protection cell rather intelligence cells, but intel collection could be sub component of such cells.

it all depends on the gravity of the situation, and how ineffective is central federated setup.

Ashok Sarraff · Post by **Ashok Sarraff** » 30 Oct 2013 18:45

Please email President and CEC to provide adequate security to Shri Narendra Modi. They are the two most important custodians of democracy and free and fair polling in India.

Request form for the President:

http://www.helpline.rb.nic.in/GrievanceNew.aspx

Election Commission of India contact details:

Email:feedbackeci@gmail.com

http://eci.nic.in/eci_main1/contactus.aspx

sampat · Post by **sampat** » 30 Oct 2013 18:51

IF EC & President was free and fair then what was all noise about EVM Magic?

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 30 Oct 2013 18:55

Thank god there is still integrity in journalism... Exhibit 1 is Karan Thappar

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 30 Oct 2013 19:00

OK now this seems baseless... was told namo had bullet proof SUVs flown to patna for the rally... no?

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 30 Oct 2013 19:02

NYT farticle has zero effect on votes as nobody in the India that will decide knows or cares about it. They expect him to be bumped off and are trying to appear prophetic to the miniscule "educated" Indians and assorted ill-wishers who read that rag. As the tsunamo progresses, we can expect a marshalling of the "secular"/jehadi/ej forces in US (ASHA, FOIL etc) but I expect that to be a good thing for India because we need to see the head in order to chop it off. Even if NaMo is taken out, God forbid, BJP will come to power. The asuric forces outside India need a strong supportive echo from within India to justify their existence and survive and that will be snuffed out one way or another.

syele · Post by **syele** » 30 Oct 2013 19:08

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/left-r ... ostpopular

NSG gives only immediate security. NSG leaves the venue security to local administration that does its best based on its established procedures.

SPG not only gives immediate security, but also sanitizes the whole venue, controls the access points to the venue etc. When SPG is involved even the local administration is legally required to meet SPG criteria.

If SPG was involved in Patna rally, the state apparatus was LEGALLY required to meet SPG's venue and access-route sanitization criteria. This would have, most likely, caught at least one of the IEDs triggering complete combing procedure.

Kamal_raj · Post by **Kamal_raj** » 30 Oct 2013 19:11

I wanted to complain about the nytimes article. Is there an email address I just could not find it.

The amriki paedophile thinks that it can finger Indian democracy just like they do in
Pakistan and Middle East.

Regds

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 30 Oct 2013 19:22

Kamal_raj wrote:I wanted to complain about the nytimes article. Is there an email address I just could not find it.

The amriki paedophile thinks that it can finger Indian democracy just like they do in
Pakistan and Middle East.

Regds

link

Malayappan · Post by **Malayappan** » 30 Oct 2013 19:45

Desperate Nitish's secular bunkum and Hitler punch - Prasannarajan in India Today.

Punchline: What we hear from Nitish Kumar is the sales pitch of political harlotry. India is not seduced.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/niti ... 20935.html

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 30 Oct 2013 19:56

Hari Seldon wrote:OK now this seems baseless... was told namo had bullet proof SUVs flown to patna for the rally... no?

Hari ji,

That article is correct. I read 2 days before the rally in dainik jagran which mentioned that bihar govt said that they cannot spare bullet proof vehicles for Modi.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 30 Oct 2013 20:03

by Rahul M
tactical brilliance is usually strategically stupid, as the paki example has taught us.

Absolutely!! That is the reason that Satyamev Jayate is our motto. We should fight Adharma with Satya!

bhargava · Post by **bhargava** » 30 Oct 2013 20:29

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 30 Oct 2013 20:31

Rahul Gandhi attacks BJP and mosquitoes in Madhya Pradesh

Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/poli ... 20025.html

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 30 Oct 2013 20:31

The congoons are just following yhe patriarch. When they threaten modi.

Kanson · Post by **Kanson** » 30 Oct 2013 20:32

SBajwa wrote:
by Rahul M
tactical brilliance is usually strategically stupid, as the paki example has taught us.
Absolutely!! That is the reason that Satyamev Jayate is our motto. We should fight Adharma with Satya!

I have some objection to the way it was put and defined here. Pls bear if I appear little snobbish.

Of course, Truth triumphs! But does it tells you when it will? Will it be OK if that happens after another 20 years. Of course, Truth triumphs!!!

This meaning of fighting adharma with Satya gives the message as if we only speak truth to defeat it. But Satya in our tradition has bigger meaning. It also means truthful to yourself. It doesn't mean speaking only truth!! Otherwise the story of Ramayana and Mahabharata would be different!

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 30 Oct 2013 20:36

the problem with that motto is the moorkhs. given any jayate context, they don't analyze if it is true or false, and has no RTI or info at hand to get details of the truth.

there are few issues and factors:
- media presenting the information without filtering or refracting
- information multicast infrastructure and reach (generally video has a higher impact - seeing is believing)
- capability of aam to disect information that is mutated
- leadership and information broadcast system regulations and inefficiencies
- dorkness of media (DDM)
- the level of aam-ness vs. info content

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 30 Oct 2013 20:39

Coffee spill alert.

Rahul gandhi identifies the enemy

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 30 Oct 2013 20:58

It doesn't mean speaking only truth!! Otherwise the story of Ramayana and Mahabharata would be different!

Story of Ramayana teaches "Pran jaye par vachan no Jaye" i.e. "You should not break promises". Who has broken the promises of their manifestos? The Congress Politicians.

Story of the Mahabharata teaches "Fight your enemies even if they are your brothers for the sake of Dharma". Meanwhile Congress government is not doing its Dharma when its enemies (nPakis and Chinis) occupy the home of people of India, kill its people and hurt them in any way.

In order to stop Adharama you should not commit more Adharam.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 30 Oct 2013 21:03

so how many mosquitoes he killed?

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 30 Oct 2013 21:27

he probably has 2-3 people standing behind him to even do that