INS Vikramaditya: News and Discussion

nash · Post by **nash** » 05 Jan 2014 13:04

simply AWESOME

just a look of it and you can imagine why it is a "Gamechanger" in IOR and what it can do to enemy psyche.

Khalsa · Post by **Khalsa** » 05 Jan 2014 13:59

Oh Balle Balle
Thank you Thank you Thank you

That was just plain downright gawdaemn awesome .... hooo ha ha ha

Jai Hind

Aditya G · Post by **Aditya G** » 05 Jan 2014 14:06

PIX 4.jpg from Gokhale's blog: Vikram is dragging two lines in the water, what is it?

A Chetak is stationed on her at heli deck #2

Nikhil T wrote:Ladies and Gentlemen, the pictures you've been waiting for.

More here:

EDIT: aditya_d, you beat me to it

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 05 Jan 2014 14:09

check the link posted by Nikil ji for bigger photo

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 05 Jan 2014 14:12

lined up for photo ops, check the positions of the ships , not random

Roperia · Post by **Roperia** » 05 Jan 2014 14:39

What a sight! Some of the most beautiful Indian military pictures.

Khalsa · Post by **Khalsa** » 05 Jan 2014 14:40

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RkOMtBuUu-0/U ... /PIX+3.jpg

Sorry I don't know how to resize.
But whats Vikram_Adee towing behind her. Towed Sonar Array

There are two cables going out to the sea.
Seen in other pics too.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 05 Jan 2014 16:17

Hmm can that SHAR aircraft in th above Photograph from Viraat land on Vikram aditya, but a good idea use the Viraat CBG to protect Vikram aditya from the Red Sea hostile area.

chackojoseph · Post by **chackojoseph** » 05 Jan 2014 16:54

SHAR may have actually taken off from Vik. The landing gear is down.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 05 Jan 2014 17:18

imo it is coming in to land....they tend to pull in from behind and a little to the side in videos .. not sure if the SHAR jet deflectors need some special coating on flight deck to protect.

a typical landing pattern from ark royal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQAldoXgkUQ

Shrinivasan · Post by **Shrinivasan** » 05 Jan 2014 17:24

chackojoseph wrote:SHAR may have actually taken off from Vik. The landing gear is down.

No Chacko, the SHAR just did a deck pass.. If you see the short video clip in NDTV, you can see the plane coming over the carrier, momentarily hidden behind the island and then. Re appearing in the front of the carrier...

K Mehta · Post by **K Mehta** » 05 Jan 2014 17:55

Today is officially Indian jingo day! Vicky and GSLV too good!

ashvin · Post by **ashvin** » 05 Jan 2014 19:07

^^^^ Amazing pictures!!

Klaus · Post by **Klaus** » 05 Jan 2014 20:19

IIRC, Shyamd used to refer to a certain airstrip in Oman being used by IAF and IN's air-arm, wonder if the Tu-142's used the facility for this homecoming of INS Vikramaditya. It would explain why the flotilla made its way up to the Persian Gulf.

BTW, great pictures!

Pranay · Post by **Pranay** » 05 Jan 2014 21:22

Roperia wrote:But whats Vikram_Adee towing behind her. Towed Sonar Array

There are two cables going out to the sea.
Seen in other pics too.

Aditya G wrote:PIX 4.jpg from Gokhale's blog: Vikram is dragging two lines in the water, what is it?

Most likely - towed decoys were deployed - something along the lines of the following...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/SLQ-25_Nixie

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 05 Jan 2014 22:20

Towed lines:

1.Skipper's clothing being washed.

2.Fed up with Russian grub for so long,the crew are trying to catch some fish with a trawl.

3.Paki spies caught trying to come aboard being fed to the sharks!

PS:Worth recalling.
INS Vikramaditya was spied upon by NATO aircraft and ship last year but the matter was hushed up
Shiv Aroor | Headlines Today | New Delhi, November 18, 2013 | U

Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/ins- ... 25335.html

vivek_ahuja · Post by **vivek_ahuja** » 05 Jan 2014 22:22

Philip wrote:Towed lines:

1.Skipper's clothing being washed.

2.Fed up with Russian grub for so long,the crew are trying to catch some fish with a trawl.

3.Paki spies caught trying to come aboard being fed to the sharks!

Eric Leiderman · Post by **Eric Leiderman** » 06 Jan 2014 00:04

Philip on point 3)

since the lines are taut the bait is being disregarded by the sharks below their dignity to feast on such scum

ManjaM · Post by **ManjaM** » 06 Jan 2014 01:26

what are the "fishing poles", 7 in number" on the left side of Vik.

Eric Leiderman · Post by **Eric Leiderman** » 06 Jan 2014 02:15

They would support a netting for safety reasons

ManjaM · Post by **ManjaM** » 06 Jan 2014 02:34

Thank you.

Pranay · Post by **Pranay** » 06 Jan 2014 03:00

ManjaM wrote:what are the "fishing poles", 7 in number" on the left side of Vik.

Eric Leiderman wrote:They would support a netting for safety reasons

They are Pole (communication) antennae...

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 06 Jan 2014 03:51

With such a large escorting group, I doubt the Pakis will be able to tell which one is the Vikramaditya's sound signature

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member_27808 · Post by **member_27808** » 06 Jan 2014 04:07

Philip wrote:Towed lines:

1.Skipper's clothing being washed.

2.Fed up with Russian grub for so long,the crew are trying to catch some fish with a trawl.

3.Paki spies caught trying to come aboard being fed to the sharks!

OR the collective egos and insecurities of the Paki and Chinese armed forces.

ManjaM · Post by **ManjaM** » 06 Jan 2014 04:21

Pranay wrote:
ManjaM wrote:what are the "fishing poles", 7 in number" on the left side of Vik.
Eric Leiderman wrote:They would support a netting for safety reasons

They are Pole (communication) antennae...

Pranay saheb,
Looked it up on the interwebz and found a picture. Looks like they can probably be rotated up as well as the top and LH view seem to indicate.

I dont know how to resize the picture, click on the link to see it.
http://www.steelnavy.com/images/essex/essex_drawing.jpg

Pranay · Post by **Pranay** » 06 Jan 2014 04:49

ManjaM wrote:Pranay saheb,
Looked it up on the interwebz and found a picture. Looks like they can probably be rotated up as well as the top and LH view seem to indicate

Yes, i'm aware (I have served on an aircraft carrier) - these antennae can be pivoted up and down - they are horizontal during flight ops...

Please, no need for the - saheb. Thanks

ManjaM · Post by **ManjaM** » 06 Jan 2014 05:15

Pranay wrote:
ManjaM wrote:Pranay saheb,
Looked it up on the interwebz and found a picture. Looks like they can probably be rotated up as well as the top and LH view seem to indicate
Yes, i'm aware (I have served on an aircraft carrier) - these antennae can be pivoted up and down - they are horizontal during flight ops...

Please, no need for the - saheb. Thanks

Interesting. I havent seen these antennae on other ships in the fleet (from the picture posted in this thread). Is it because the same antennae are installed somewhere else on those ships?
Thank you.

krishna_krishna · Post by **krishna_krishna** » 06 Jan 2014 13:49

Guys there is more just than show off to the vikky coming to Persian gulf . Guess what massa and franky deploy their a/c and were waiting to do some mischief. Navy looks like wanted to give big finger to both so they deployed in full force, to show who has bigger dick. No more you can bully around like you did during parakram, now we got bigger danda :

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=1461
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ew&id=1407

Any comments from senior gurus ?

chackojoseph · Post by **chackojoseph** » 06 Jan 2014 17:34

http://youtu.be/olJopSrK0O0
Clearly shows SHAR landing and take off. There is a touchdown at 52 seconds.

JTull · Post by **JTull** » 06 Jan 2014 18:07

chackojoseph wrote:http://youtu.be/olJopSrK0O0
Clearly shows SHAR landing and take off. There is a touchdown at 52 seconds.

It never touched down. Just hovered for few seconds and off it went.

chackojoseph · Post by **chackojoseph** » 06 Jan 2014 18:35

Ok its clearly a hover. May be Russians have some warranty clause which does not allow it to touch down

dinesh_kimar · Post by **dinesh_kimar** » 06 Jan 2014 18:44

I suspect massa not very impressed with our present CBG, with 8-9 old SHARs, critical ASW helos in short supply, and no Barak type SAM system yet. Thats why we need the DDG Escorts, they are the main threat to massa with their SAM systems.
Even our Subs have become critical.Massa sees all, Massa knows all. Massa smiles.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 06 Jan 2014 19:02

^ what is the intention of the above post may I ask? who said it was to impress massa?

>> Massa sees all, Massa knows all. Massa smiles.

ofcourse how can one forget the picture perfect mess they have made from libya to afpak. sees all and knows all indeed.

dinesh_kimar · Post by **dinesh_kimar** » 06 Jan 2014 19:15

Saar, one of above post abt Navy wanting to show Frenchies and Massa who has bigger d**k, so they deployed in full force, in that context onlee. I should have added the quote for better clarity.

krishna_krishna · Post by **krishna_krishna** » 06 Jan 2014 19:36

^^ with all due respect rather than ridiculing machismo about massa, please have intelligent discussion from the same link that excercise was not pre planned at all. And there was a reason why navy choose the route it chose andsent such a powerful fleet to receive Vicky when they could have directly go through Arabian Sea straight to karwar. I am just connecting dots which has just slipped the our media or this forum I do not see a simple coincidence to have both massa and frenchie playing jack an Jill went up the hill and Vicky deploying those towed decoy arrays.

K_Rohit · Post by **K_Rohit** » 07 Jan 2014 09:48

http://www.airliners.net/photo/India--- ... 2373915/M/

The unseen escort for the group

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 07 Jan 2014 10:04

I bet even INS Chakra was around, that would anther unseen escort.

Khalsa · Post by **Khalsa** » 07 Jan 2014 12:09

chackojoseph wrote:Ok its clearly a hover. May be Russians have some warranty clause which does not allow it to touch down

I don't think so that is the reason.

It could be any and all of the following.

It does not have the personal on board.
It does not have the gear on board to support SHARs... start up generators, HMT tractors

, spare parts,
maybe the fuel and grease that is changed after every sortie needs to be carried over first.

Without any and all of the above onboard Vikram_A .... safety dictates that a SHAR may not land on Vik_A except in a case of emergency.

Last not least a thought popped in my head just as I was writing....
Maybe the first honour of a touchdown on Vikram_A needs to go to a pilot in the mig-29K to make an emphatic statement of coming of age of the panthers squadron (not to mention Navy) and put the final signature in the shift in our carrier strategy... i.e. going from vertical landing a/c to an arrested recover aircraft.

Wouldn't you ? Hell I would ensure that there is a surprise escort and landing of Panthers craft on the Vikram_A once it gets closer which will emphasis that Commander Theo and his boys have not been basking in the beautiful sunny days earlier this year drinking beers but working their ass off on those arrested landings and take off in day and night.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 07 Jan 2014 12:16

the fishing lines could be
(a) noisemakers to mask the prop noises
(b) passive sonar arrays to listen for other subs
(c) old fashioned seamanship speed measurement test in progress by reeling out the knotted rope + stopwatch.

perhaps onlee tsarkar sir can comment....

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 07 Jan 2014 14:00

Any idea if INS Chakra will now be part of Vikram Aditya Battlegroup to give the CBG cover