Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Arunkumar · Post by **Arunkumar** » 18 Jan 2014 15:04

Ad by minority dept for soliciting muslim votes has a punchline 'Aap banenge hindustan banega'. Open hint for quommunity members whom to vote.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 18 Jan 2014 15:06

what if ST did it ???

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 18 Jan 2014 15:12

ShankarCag wrote:On that note we should have a thread to track the "achievements" of Indian Americans in North America, Western Europe, Australia and New Zealand. Our fawning DDM writes eulogies on their "achievements" to build up their profiles in desh. We should know who is being sent as brown sahebs to our lands to lord over us.

Bobby jindal one one fry who could have been used. But Rajiv Malhotra did a piece on him on Huff post and some how his star has stopped rising since. It's very much possible that useless people like Meghnath Desai, Amartya Sen do their masters bidding when they come to India.

I do find it a bit sad that Indians so willingly give up their citizenship to accept a citizenship of another country. As some gurus here said- is it the mercantile mentality? If we feel proud enough to be an Indian perhaps we will prevent the rise of turncoats who will willingly sell their desh.

member_28352 · Post by **member_28352** » 18 Jan 2014 15:16

Those who have given up citizenship have chosen one way over the other. So the Bobby Jindals and Nikki Haleys of the world are not our concern. Its the guys like Amartya Sen who have retained Indian passports, the so called crypto Americans, that can be used to cause damage to us.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 18 Jan 2014 15:18

ShankarCag wrote:Those who have given up citizenship have chosen one way over the other. So the Bobby Jindals and Nikki Haleys of the world are not our concern. Its the guys like Amartya Sen who have retained Indian passports, the so called crypto Americans, that can be used to cause damage to us.

Are you sure he is still holding Indian passport?

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 18 Jan 2014 15:30

11 people die of cold in Delhi

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 18 Jan 2014 16:47

So Sunanda utters "IPL crimes" and gets bumped off by underworld. Now they are cremating the body and Tharoor is back to sitting pretty. The Delhi clique can truly get away with anything.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 18 Jan 2014 16:52

Claims she was forced to shut her mouth after defending Kashmiri pundits on television.

https://twitter.com/irajdeep/status/424 ... 56/photo/1

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 18 Jan 2014 17:27

Dr. Praveen Patil ‏@albatrossinfo 3h
Injury marks on the wrists and neck area reported by AIIMS doctors on Sunanda Pushkar's dead body.
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Dr. Praveen Patil ‏@albatrossinfo 2h
"Mr & Mrs Tharoor had a major fight on the flight between Trivandrum & Delhi & also had fights in the Leela hotel" reports @ZeeNews

Bloody psychopath could have snuffed his own wife. She probably threatened to expose him after what he did to her. If this guy did it, he isn't going to spend one damn day in prison. He knows too much.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 18 Jan 2014 18:09

Then he too will be bumped off. The mafia doesn't care about the after effects. They anyway made plans to ship out Gandhis.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 18 Jan 2014 18:28

Altair wrote:Then he too will be bumped off. The mafia doesn't care about the after effects. They anyway made plans to ship out Gandhis.

SP was part of the looting actions till now. Just because ST is out for others she got angry and threaten to expose him?? I am sure she knows she will be in serious danger if she threaten that.

ST is not going anywhere. Kerala voters may elect him once again. He even got chest pain

You can quote this freely - Chest pain and sickness certificate is proof of guilt

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 18 Jan 2014 18:59

Hansie Crojnie flight crashed, Bob Woolmer killed in hotel. [Edited. Ramana] For both of them it was third marriage. They belong to a world out there and none of us can even comprehend how that world will be.

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 18 Jan 2014 19:11

I think we should not forget the delhi law min issue ...

The bloody law minister comes in the middle of the night...catches 2 ugandan women..utters racial slurs...his goons beat them up and perform cavity searches...and make them urinate
in public...is not this tantamount to sexual assault ?

why did the police not arrest the minister?

The press has not given a decent coverage about the nature of atrocity the chap committed . Most people just think he asked people to arrest random women...I think we should tweet this for the next several weeks...should not let him get away in the tharoor business...

ashashi · Post by **ashashi** » 18 Jan 2014 19:27

9:15 am: Shashi Tharoor hospitalised

Union Minister Shashi Tharoor, who was hospitalised after he complained of chest pain and palpitation on Friday night, has now been shifted out of ICU to normal ward of AIIMS.

10:10 am: Shashi Tharoor stable

Union Minister Shashi Tharoor reportedly suffered a 'cardiac event' last night when he was admitted to AIIMS. He is now stable, the report added.

11:00 am: Shashi Tharoor discharged

Shashi Tharoor, who was hospitalised after he complained of chest pain, has now been discharged from AIIMS. Tharoor was initially admitted to the ICU and was later shifted to a ward at the All India Institute of Medical Science.

12:10 pm: Sunanda's autopsy begins

Three-member doctors' team begins Sunanda Pushkar Tharoor's post-mortem at AIIMS. The process will be completed by 2 pm and the report will be submitted to the sub-divisional magistrate.

1:05 pm: Sunanda's funeral today

Shashi Tharoor's wife Sunanda will be cremated at 5:30 pm in Delhi.

2:25 pm: Autopsy of Sunanda Tharoor complete

The autopsy of Sunanda Tharoor, who was found dead last night at a Delhi hotel, has been completed at AIIMS. A distraught Tharoor arrived at the hospital to receive the body of his wife Sunanda.

5:30 pm: Sunanda Pushkar cremated

The mortal remains of Sunanda Pushkar, wife of Shashi Tharoor were, consigned to flames here today evening. The cremation took place at the Lodhi Road crematorium in south Delhi, near the couple's residence in Lodhi Estate.

Something fishy about this timeline. Why such a hurry to cremate Sunanda Pushkar?

sunilUpa · Post by **sunilUpa** » 18 Jan 2014 19:38

gakakkad wrote:I think we should not forget the delhi law min issue ...

The bloody law minister comes in the middle of the night...catches 2 ugandan women..utters racial slurs...his goons beat them up and perform cavity searches...and make them urinate
in public...is not this tantamount to sexual assault ?

why did the police not arrest the minister?

The press has not given a decent coverage about the nature of atrocity the chap committed . Most people just think he asked people to arrest random women...I think we should tweet this for the next several weeks...should not let him get away in the tharoor business...

Lest we forget!

Can some one draw a cartoon of law minister with KKK hood and tweet?

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 18 Jan 2014 19:40

Telugu Desam Party wants Tharoor to be removed from cabinet

While condoling death of Sunanda Pushkar, TDP president N Chandrababu Naidu today demanded that Union Minister of State for HRD Shashi Tharoor be removed from the Cabinet till the probe into his wife Sunanda Pushkar's suspicious death gets over.

In a statement issued here today, Chandrababu wanted the police to book a case against Tharoor under the Domestic Violence (Prevention) Act alleging the latter was responsible for Sunanda's death.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 18 Jan 2014 19:44

almost all cases of high profile have gone to dr sudhir gupta in AIIMS for autopsy, he also has superseded many to become HOD in AIIMS.
http://www.aiims.edu/aiims/departments/ ... 0Gupta.htm

Forensic Opinion in Delhi Police/CBI cases

· Uphar Fire tragedy Cases
· BMW Lodhi Road accident case,
· Shivani Bhatnagar Murder case,
· Scribe Nirupma Pathak case,
· Jessica Lal case
· Nitish Katara case
· Bibi Jagir Kaur daughter case
· Nainital Firing Case
· Ram Singh, Tihar Jail Death
· Ilivarasan Death, Tamilnadu

Contribution in Commonwealth Games Delhi 2010, has been inducted as member of organizing committee to frame and finalize the draft for medical management of medico-legal cases during the games.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 18 Jan 2014 19:52

Minhaz Merchant ‏@minhazmerchant 12m

Cong-AAP plan--prosecute Sheila in Feb, Cong withdraws support, frees Kejri for LS, Sheila case frozen. What a plan!

member_28352 · Post by **member_28352** » 18 Jan 2014 19:53

^^IndraDji, I suggest that you post this info in the teetar thread also for others to post.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 18 Jan 2014 19:58

^^ please tell me how to do that I am a novice, though I have a twitter account

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 18 Jan 2014 20:05

IndraD wrote:^^ please tell me how to do that I am a novice, though I have a twitter account

Either use Twitlonger to post tweets that are bigger than 140 char or post chain of tweets (replying the previous tweet of yours).

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 18 Jan 2014 20:06

AK is blabbering on CNN-IBN
1. He will take up CWG case now
2. He never wanted congress support, it is other way round
3. KB is promoting Modi
4. He doesn't care if his govt falls, in fact he dares cong to withdraw support
5. Defends vigilante action of his ministers
6. African MEA lodges protest with GoI
7. GoI assures safety of African nationals
8. Ak wants full control of DP, for this he is ready to go to any extent

I agree with some one else's obs that Shiela Dixit is likely to be sacrificed for a bigger game plan

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 18 Jan 2014 20:19

Muppalla wrote:Sunanda is small bee who is an escort girl (so called event management industry) ...

really? were you a customer?

the woman has just been cremated and you had to come up with this...

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 18 Jan 2014 20:23

OK, now that the autopsy has found "unnatural death" and physical marks, this looks more and more like a murder. I sure hope Tharoor's goose is cooked, and that of other UPA/Congress criminals involved.

SriKumar · Post by **SriKumar** » 18 Jan 2014 20:31

Muppalla wrote:.....

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SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 18 Jan 2014 20:34

I'd would say before a clean change in desh, it is better to use these aam admi fellows to get the brooming aspects done, with their own hands.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 18 Jan 2014 21:09

Some people are suggesting that in the second stage of the color revolution what if:

Case 1) Congress withdraws support and makes a show conflict.

Case 2) AAP crowd squat on lootyan ki Delhi and MSM shows this movie 24/7.

I want to run the following two suggestions by you bhailog for dealing with the above two scenarios:

Case 1) BJP should immediately support AAP for a strict working on their agenda. Their agenda actually promised everything of BJP only more. This will allow BJP to throw a spanner in the congress's work.

Case 2) BJP should immediately get Tikait brothers to descend on delhi in a much bigger show of strength and protest alongside the AAP log. And when the Congress is gone BJP should immediately declare support for AAP on conditional basis. This will obviously do a delhi redux at the centre and this whole charade gets exposed.

I agree though the Case 2 may not even arise since the voting will be only 2.5-3 months away. In delhi there was an accumulated effect of the BR+Anna+Corruption cases protests over 2 years. Hence 2.5 months nationwide looks too short a time for too small an effect.

My hunch is AAP will try to be the smart-aleck, protesting against a NaMo lead govt. with full support of Atlanti-fascists. In which case I suggest some real confrontation and a general sack of the english language MSM. I am sure NaMo supporters can clog the SM if something like this befalls the country. India based businessmen can be asked to fill up the requirement for the english language MSM.

rvishwak · Post by **rvishwak** » 18 Jan 2014 21:10

IndraD wrote:11 people die of cold in Delhi

only ZEE News reporting this, other MSMs maintaining radio silence

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 18 Jan 2014 21:21

kmkraoind wrote:
IndraD wrote:^^ please tell me how to do that I am a novice, though I have a twitter account
Either use Twitlonger to post tweets that are bigger than 140 char or post chain of tweets (replying the previous tweet of yours).

IndraD ji,
I took the liberty of posting it here.
https://twitter.com/sarpamedha/status/4 ... 3672404992

I am using a twitter client for Android (FalconPro in my case) which automatically posts long tweets through twitlonger.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 18 Jan 2014 21:26

Del - as original comment is already expunged.

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 18 Jan 2014 21:33

ravi g saar I have said this umpteen times and will say this again BJP must not touch PAAP or support it or form government in Delhi till it gets full majority and must make this clear to the voters of Delhi as well. Let the PAAP and it's baap fight against each other and make a public scene out of it what BJP needs to do is project leadership and the capability to give a stable government which both PAAP and it's baap aren't capable to give as this charade is showing. If any of the cases that you project comes true then more so good for BJP as this r*ndibaaji will continue and people will see the fallacy of their vote to PAAP, if they don't then BJP will only shoot itself on it's foot by participating in this drama.

A small example I will give is that one of my friend wasn't too sure about Namo till a few months ago so when I talked today about our next PM and stressed that he must take gaddi to save this country from going to the drain he firmly said that he will become PM and nobody can stop him from becoming one. It's a bit significant for me since he isn't political minded and was having some hopes about AAP due to all the TV tamasha but since the tamasha has continued now post government formation in Delhi he has been disillusioned. So educated people who weren't sure about Modi are definitely having second thoughts now hence I stress again that BJP must allow this r*ndibaaji to continue, people will get disgusted in time and their is still enough to LS polls.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 18 Jan 2014 21:34

ravi_g wrote:Some people are suggesting that in the second stage of the color revolution what if:

Case 1) Congress withdraws support and makes a show conflict.

Case 2) AAP crowd squat on lootyan ki Delhi and MSM shows this movie 24/7.

I want to run the following two suggestions by you bhailog for dealing with the above two scenarios:

Case 1) BJP should immediately support AAP for a strict working on their agenda. Their agenda actually promised everything of BJP only more. This will allow BJP to throw a spanner in the congress's work.

Case 2) BJP should immediately get Tikait brothers to descend on delhi in a much bigger show of strength and protest alongside the AAP log. And when the Congress is gone BJP should immediately declare support for AAP on conditional basis. This will obviously do a delhi redux at the centre and this whole charade gets exposed.

I agree though the Case 2 may not even arise since the voting will be only 2.5-3 months away. In delhi there was an accumulated effect of the BR+Anna+Corruption cases protests over 2 years. Hence 2.5 months nationwide looks too short a time for too small an effect.

My hunch is AAP will try to be the smart-aleck, protesting against a NaMo lead govt. with full support of Atlanti-fascists. In which case I suggest some real confrontation and a general sack of the english language MSM. I am sure NaMo supporters can clog the SM if something like this befalls the country. India based businessmen can be asked to fill up the requirement for the english language MSM.

SP murder is a good opportunity. BJP should get some dirt on and keep the focus on SONIA, Shinde, Tharoor, ISI

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 18 Jan 2014 21:38

X-post

Indian media failed Sunanda Pushkar, and now she’s dead

On 1/15, Sunanda Pushkar, the wife of Indian minister Shashi Tharoor, took to his Twitter account to post lovesick messages that she claimed were written to him by Mehr Tarar, a Pakistani journalist.

On 1/16, the Economic Times carried a sensational disclosure by her: “I took upon myself the crimes of this man during the [Indian Premier League].” In 2010, Tharoor had resigned from his post in the government amid accusations that Pushkar and he had helped a new franchise in the lucrative cricket league.

On 1/17, Pushkar was found dead in a hotel room at the Leela, a hotel in south Delhi. It wasn’t long before Twitter, a wellspring of angst for India’s most high-profile journalists, was suggested as one of the possible reasons behind Pushkar’s demise. One channel asked: Was it suicide or murder? After Pushkar published the first messages, Tharoor claimed his account had been hacked. Twitterers, as they do with these things, rallied immediately

Indian media was less critical about its own practices. Shortly after the Economic Times piece, the news channel NDTV got Pushkar on the phone for an interview. They didn’t ask her about the “crimes of this man.” At one point during the live phone conversation, when Pushkar said she regretted choosing silence during the cricket controversy, the interviewer changed the subject, “Ma’am, you do realize you’re live on NDTV? Also, aren’t you worried the BJP [the party in opposition] will take up this issue?” The channel’s concern for the minister’s career, not the details of Pushkar’s revelation, was dismaying.

There are plenty of other examples of journalists who shirked their duties. In the minutes after Pushkar’s death became public knowledge, Barkha Dutt, NDTV’s group editor, said that Pushkar had told spoken with her on 1/15 about issues including Tarar and the cricket league. (“…not really private [conversation] actually, as [Pushkar] repeated verbatim to Express, Economic Times,” Dutt tweeted.

Dutt said she advised Pushkar to speak with a confidante instead. A celebrated journalist known for intrusive reporting at the scene of major incidents, Dutt took the editorial judgment to ignore Pushkar’s frank revelations about a sitting union minister.

On its part, CNN-IBN brought out Sagarika Ghose, a senior editor, who had met Pushkar socially. She said that Pushkar had, “off and on, over the past month, spoken about this particular liaison [between] her husband Shashi Tharoor and the Pakistani journalist… she was very unhappy about it.” Yet, until Pushkar put out the messages by herself, few people knew about the brewing trouble.

Media outlets occasionally hold back information, of course. There are often debatable, yet justifiable, reasons for doing so. But the manner in which Pushkar’s admissions were addressed and ignored by some of India’s most prominent journalists raises, once again, serious questions about seemingly cozy relations between reporters and the political class. They had their chance to ask Pushkar about the “crimes.” Now they don’t.

In the process, the media have added more fuel to the popular belief that journalism in India isn’t done in the public interest as much as in the interest of the rich, the powerful, and the political.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 18 Jan 2014 21:53

Sagar G wrote:ravi g saar I have said this umpteen times and will say this again BJP must not touch PAAP or support it or form government in Delhi till it gets full majority and must make this clear to the voters of Delhi as well. Let the PAAP and it's baap fight against each other and make a public scene out of it what BJP needs to do is project leadership and the capability to give a stable government which both PAAP and it's baap aren't capable to give as this charade is showing. If any of the cases that you project comes true then more so good for BJP as this r*ndibaaji will continue and people will see the fallacy of their vote to PAAP, if they don't then BJP will only shoot itself on it's foot by participating in this drama.

A small example I will give is that one of my friend wasn't too sure about Namo till a few months ago so when I talked today about our next PM and stressed that he must take gaddi to save this country from going to the drain he firmly said that he will become PM and nobody can stop him from becoming one. It's a bit significant for me since he isn't political minded and was having some hopes about AAP due to all the TV tamasha but since the tamasha has continued now post government formation in Delhi he has been disillusioned. So educated people who weren't sure about Modi are definitely having second thoughts now hence I stress again that BJP must allow this r*ndibaaji to continue, people will get disgusted in time and their is still enough to LS polls.

But BJP should not sit pretty as an amused onlooker enjoying AAPs fate.
It should address the complaints of junta (whose nonredressal resulted in conditions which allowed AAP to be foisted on us in the first place)... most important issue

Reforms to Justice system and Police and law enforcement system . Already N number of committees gave reports on latter - all gathering dust. Modi should say give us the resounding mandate and BJP wil drag the Indian Police system languishing in 19 th century CrPCs and transform into a 21 st century force.
Since he is a firm believer in federalism states which would ordinarily hold out (like Jaya,Mamta,Patnaik etc) are likely to cooperate.

The deal with the Devil has to be made preelections, and its the duty of dharmics to see that NaMo's hand is as strengthened as it can be by that time.

Next things next.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 18 Jan 2014 22:02

Lilo wrote:IndraD ji,
I took the liberty of posting it here.
https://twitter.com/sarpamedha/status/4 ... 3672404992

I am using a twitter client for Android (FalconPro in my case) which automatically posts long tweets through twitlonger.

please spread as much as possible as I am computer illiterate, not of much help

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 18 Jan 2014 22:05

Lilo wrote:But BJP should not sit pretty as an amused onlooker enjoying AAPs fate.
It should address the complaints of junta (whose nonredressal resulted in conditions which allowed AAP to be foisted on us in the first place)... most important issue

I am not exactly fond of Delhi so don't have much sympathy for them regarding their blunder with PAAP. BJP can't do much other than lending an ear and shouting in streets regarding the people's problems, it's in opposition and can only do much. In each and every TV show they must hammer the point about a stable government and the leadership that they can provide. Dr. Harshvardhan needs to get more air time than he is getting now (which is exactly zero).

How can anyone expect BJP to address the problems that Delhi faces without giving them the numbers to form the government ???

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 18 Jan 2014 22:24

With AAP people are seeing the result of electing proverbial opposition.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 18 Jan 2014 22:36

A color revolution is coming to India. I predict that right after Sheila is prosecuted Kejriwal will eye the PM post directly. He is going to to swamp New Delhi just like what happened during the arab spring and then the fireworks in the media will start. Gandhis will be out of the country and MMS and whoever is left of the cabinet will have the bear the brunt. They will be lathi charged, water cannoned, etc. TIME and other internaitonal magazines and news channels will cover it and boost his popularity immensely. Modi wont get any airtime for at least 2 months before elections and Kejriwal will be declared the hero of India. MMS will step down and then a jan-lokpal will be constituted and elections put off in the name of saving the country.

Sonia (Ahmed Patel) will have accomplished a few things:

Preserved AAP and expanded its popularity, neutralized Modi, purged her foes from within the party, and again succeeded in planting another mole in the PM chair, and most importantly of all preserved the back channel for her family to enter into politics again with all the power and no accountability. It's actually a brilliant plan the more I think about it. If it turns out to be true Modi is going to fighting an even bigger battle.

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 18 Jan 2014 22:39

AK supports vigilantism.

This interview increases middle class voters of AAP .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfVX4Wt-qdI

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Nationalists activists lost to anti-nationals like AK because nationalist activists followed FALSE advices of BJP-leaders and opposes proper legislative reforms necessary to reduce crimes\corruption etc. So crime\corruption grew and hapless commons are falling for such fake and pseudo reformists like AK

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 18 Jan 2014 22:42

Sagar G wrote:
Lilo wrote:But BJP should not sit pretty as an amused onlooker enjoying AAPs fate.
It should address the complaints of junta (whose nonredressal resulted in conditions which allowed AAP to be foisted on us in the first place)... most important issue
I am not exactly fond of Delhi so don't have much sympathy for them regarding their blunder with PAAP. BJP can't do much other than lending an ear and shouting in streets regarding the people's problems, it's in opposition and can only do much. In each and every TV show they must hammer the point about a stable government and the leadership that they can provide. Dr. Harshvardhan needs to get more air time than he is getting now (which is exactly zero).

How can anyone expect BJP to address the problems that Delhi faces without giving them the numbers to form the government ???

Problem not just in Delhi,
All urban metro centers (relatively uneffected with caste based vote bank politics as seen in rest of the rural india) are susceptible to AAP like sock puppets .

BJP should take immediate counter measures and include reforms in Justice and Police system in its manifesto. pronto.
Else some one else (it could be Congis this time) will swoop down on the samosa before BJP can have a go and it will be again left holding the plate as in dilli. If congis include this in their manifesto before BJP ,it can't afford to look as though copying it from the Congis and it will be at a disadvantage.