AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

[Dasari]

Dunno if this is scripted or genuine... but here goes anyway:

Won’t allow Cong to pass any Bill this session, says SP

If its scripted, it might mean even the INC doesn't want the bill to pass for some arcane reason.... doesn't add up somehow. I can see TMC opposing T-bill tooth and nail owing to gorkhaland tensions but TMC ain;t part od UPA. Will NCP oppose owing to vidarbha tensions?.

Congress is going full steam. In fact they postponed the cabinet meeting that is supposed to send the bill to President from yesterday to today evening. The idea is that when supreme court takes the petitions this morning, they will refuse to act as there is no evidence that cabinet sent the bill to President. Since SC doesn't work on Saturday and Sunday, the bill will go to President on Saturday and comes back to parliament by Monday morning and it will be too late for SC to intervene. At least the bill will be technically introduced before SC acts. They are going to that extent. This is Congress treachery at its best.

[Muppalla]

Dunno if this is scripted or genuine... but here goes anyway:

Won’t allow Cong to pass any Bill this session, says SP

If its scripted, it might mean even the INC doesn't want the bill to pass for some arcane reason.... doesn't add up somehow. I can see TMC opposing T-bill tooth and nail owing to gorkhaland tensions but TMC ain;t part od UPA. Will NCP oppose owing to vidarbha tensions?.

Congress is going full steam. In fact they postponed the cabinet meeting that is supposed to send the bill to President from yesterday to today evening. The idea is that when supreme court takes the petitions this morning, they will refuse to act as there is no evidence that cabinet sent the bill to President. Since SC doesn't work on Saturday and Sunday, the bill will go to President on Saturday and comes back to parliament by Monday morning and it will be too late for SC to intervene. At least the bill will be technically introduced before SC acts. They are going to that extent. This is Congress treachery at its best.

The entire region called AP has only looked at small petty pictures and missed the big picture of who is driving this wedge and why. We discussed these and got criticized and called as CTs too. Why it has to be divided in the last minute has a simple answer as politics but not entirely true. It is kind of now or never and hence the desperation.

[Muppalla]

Now the news is that Cabinet accepts Hyderabad as UT. There you go and finally T folks gets raw deal.

[chaanakya]

SC has refused to stay the proceedings.

SC refuses to stay tabling of Telangana Bill in Parliament

[chaanakya]

Now the news is that Cabinet accepts Hyderabad as UT. There you go and finally T folks gets raw deal.

Well that is one good news. Now Congis may not get seats in Telangana or in Seemandhra.

[chaanakya]

And may be we will have President's Rule in both Telangana and Seemandhra till the new Assemblies are constituted.

[Altair]

Will BJP give provide an Olive Branch to Congress on Telangana issue or put Congress out of misery?

[RajeshA]

Now the news is that Cabinet accepts Hyderabad as UT. There you go and finally T folks gets raw deal.

Well that is one good news. Now Congis may not get seats in Telangana or in Seemandhra.

UT can just be an intermediate phase in Hyderabad's recognition as a separate state, like say Delhi. What we then have is Indian state having fully transferred Hyderabad to the Razaks on a plate. Do we want MIM to control its own "no-go" state, with its own security forces?

[member_28352]

^^^This was always the intended INC action saar. They know Seemaandhra will never agree to Hyderabad being given to Telangana. Half of the Telangana support is because they are salivating at the prospect of rent seeking from Hyderabad. When they realize that the INC has made a fool of them and used their grievance to take Hyderabad away from the Telugu people they will suddenly learn the virtues of a united Andhra. I think INC cares jackshit about either Telangana or Seemaandhra.

[RajeshA]

So two cats nicely enjoying a big loaf of bread among themselves. A monkey comes around, and whispers in the year of one cat that actually the loaf of bread was baked only for it and not for both. So one cat starts saying it wants the loaf for itself. The other cat says it brought all the water for kneading and logs for cooking, so it should have a part. First cat doesn't agree and continues to fight over it.

The monkey playing honest broker promises to give the whole loaf to the first cat. Second cat objects. Monkey now says it would personally look after the loaf, as otherwise both the cats may end up tearing each other.

Now the monkey has the loaf and the cats have nothing.

The fundamental principle of Islam, is that any place which has once been declared Dar ul-Islam like Nizam's Hyderabad cannot be allowed to pass into the hands of the Kufr permanently.

So another partition is underway - what is mine (Hyderabad) is mine and what is yours we can share (other areas in Rayalseema with Muslims).

[Altair]

RajeshA,
If Hyderabad is declared as an UT (and that is a BIG IF), MIM,the rabid razakkar party will feel threatened by central intervention in law and order.
If a non-secular party or an ultra nationalist party comes at centre, The looooooOOOOOOOOng arms of law and order(Kanoon ke Lambe haath) will clip the wings of MIM through a revamped Intelligence apparatus by muscling up the "Octopus". Octopus was sabotaged by MIM as it threatened their Anti-National activities. MIM will do everything to stop Hyderabad being declared as an UT. They have everything to loose. Separate state is another story.
I believe declaring Hyderabad as an UT is good provided the security aspect is handled in a planned and ruthless way.
Altair

[Vamsi.R]

Dunno if this is scripted or genuine... but here goes anyway:

Won’t allow Cong to pass any Bill this session, says SP

If its scripted, it might mean even the INC doesn't want the bill to pass for some arcane reason.... doesn't add up somehow. I can see TMC opposing T-bill tooth and nail owing to gorkhaland tensions but TMC ain;t part od UPA. Will NCP oppose owing to vidarbha tensions?.

Congress is going full steam. In fact they postponed the cabinet meeting that is supposed to send the bill to President from yesterday to today evening. The idea is that when supreme court takes the petitions this morning, they will refuse to act as there is no evidence that cabinet sent the bill to President. Since SC doesn't work on Saturday and Sunday, the bill will go to President on Saturday and comes back to parliament by Monday morning and it will be too late for SC to intervene. At least the bill will be technically introduced before SC acts. They are going to that extent. This is Congress treachery at its best.

Union Cabinet clears T bill .. in the evening

[Dasari]

Now the news is that Cabinet accepts Hyderabad as UT. There you go and finally T folks gets raw deal.

I don't think this is true. The cabinet meeting as planned was completed only few minutes ago. We don't know the details. The only leak we have is that they included polavaram submerged areas in SA. They are putting a clause to finance commission to look into the funding requirement for SA to build the capital which is another deception. Btw, the introduction of the bill first into Rajya sabha so that the bill survives beyond the current govt was Mr P Chidambarma's idea. Draw your own conclusions.

[chaanakya]

Cabinet cleared T-Bill without Hyd as UT. So its now going to President for consent before introduction in RS on 10th as planned.

[chaanakya]

. Btw, the introduction of the bill first into Rajya sabha so that the bill survives beyond the current govt was Mr P Chidambarma's idea. Draw your own conclusions.

Being the last session of 15th Loksabha , it would have made little sense to introduce the Bill in Loksabha. It would have been a dead giveaway that Congis are playing deception game. They are being true to the script. next should be President rule coming after Current Session ends and before Poll is announced but after the Bill is made into Act and notified. We have time.

[chaanakya]

Union Cabinet clears T bill .. in the evening

Oh By late night President will clear it to be presented in Rajyasabha.

[chaanakya]

BTW Polls will be announced in the last week of March and first phase of six phase polls will be on 15th or 17th April and Counting on last week of May i.e. 24th or 25th May 2014. These are tentative Schedule.Will be finetuned.

[ShyamSP]

Will BJP give provide an Olive Branch to Congress on Telangana issue or put Congress out of misery?

It is now open that Congress, TRS, and YSRCP are one gang from RS elections. If BJP also supports Congress, Congress gang will retain AP. Congress with "secular" parties might go UPA-3 on the blood of AP. NaMo might end up doing Chekka Bhajana (Bhajan with wooden cymbals)

Congress, TRS, YSRCP worked unitedly for RS polls
http://www.andhraheadlines.com/state/co ... 26823.html

[johneeG]

Will BJP give provide an Olive Branch to Congress on Telangana issue or put Congress out of misery?

It is now open that Congress, TRS, and YSRCP are one gang from RS elections. If BJP also supports Congress, Congress gang will retain AP. Congress with "secular" parties might go UPA-3 on the blood of AP. NaMo might end up doing Chekka Bhajana (Bhajan with wooden cymbals)

Congress, TRS, YSRCP worked unitedly for RS polls
http://www.andhraheadlines.com/state/co ... 26823.html

Regardless of what happens in AP, kongis are gone. I don't understand why the kongis are even doing all this nonsense on AP. Anyway, its all over for the kongis. Even in AP, kongis are not going to get any seats on their own.

About lotus: it is precisely this kind of vacillating and compromising with kongis that led to the rise of parties like Fordriwal. Fordriwal rised because lotus was seen as kongi-B. If the lotus supports the kongis in such games at the fag end of its term when it is totally powerless, then it will be seen as a kongi-B. Just the other day, Modi made a clear pitch that kongis have created divisions on both sides and contrasted it with the way lotus created smaller states.

I think lotus should simply reject all the bills by kongis. All the bills. Period. Any new bill can be brought about by the new sarkaar. Kongis have no moral right to decide on any issue anymore. And it would be worst if the lotus supports any kongi bill...any kongi bill for any reason. How can lotus claim to be a proper opposition if you end up supporting the kongi bills? Infact, even lokpal should not have been passed. It was passed because lotus supported. Why is lotus so compromising towards the kongis? Is lotus an alternative or extension of the kongis?

No wonder, people don't trust the lotus. They trust Modi. Without Modi, lotus is in as worst position as the kongis. Its really time for the lotus to stop and introspect into where it is going.

[chaanakya]

Will BJP give provide an Olive Branch to Congress on Telangana issue or put Congress out of misery?

It is now open that Congress, TRS, and YSRCP are one gang from RS elections. If BJP also supports Congress, Congress gang will retain AP. Congress with "secular" parties might go UPA-3 on the blood of AP. NaMo might end up doing Chekka Bhajana (Bhajan with wooden cymbals)

Congress, TRS, YSRCP worked unitedly for RS polls
http://www.andhraheadlines.com/state/co ... 26823.html

What happens if BJP does not support the Bill in Parliament. It is clear if T Bill has to pass it needs BJP support? I mean in terms of Elections and realignment of political forces in two regions of AP.

[chaanakya]

Well it seems that Seemadhra MPs were not serious about preventing Split of AP but more interested in small matters on division of AP like which region should go to Residuary AP
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... telangana/

The Bhadrachalam division will continue to be with Khammam district which will be part of Telangana. The law makers of Seemandhra region have been demanding inclusion of the area in residuary Andhra Pradesh as these are submerged area of Polavaram multi-purpose irrigation project, which will be part of residuary Andhra Pradesh.

That only means division is already accepted by them rest is put up for public show. Fixed match to fool public by Congis. In the process several lives have been lost or might be lost. Sad.

[disha]

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-bj ... nt-1960093

BJP to support Telangana Bill in Parliament
Friday, February 7, 2014 - 22:25 IST | Agency: PTI


After the Union Cabinet cleared the Telangana Bill, BJP on Friday said it will support the bill in Parliament as it has not changed its stand on the new state's formation. "There is no change in our stand or policies with regard to Telanagan formation.

We are a national party and the stand of our national leadership on the issue is one," said BJP's Andhra Pradesh chief G Krishna Reddy. The Telangana Bill will be introduced in Parliament on February 12. The BJP leader said whenever this bill comes up in Parliament, his party will support it. He, however, said, the BJP leaders from Andhra Pradesh will seek amendments to the bill to include an economic package along with water and other packages for Seemandhra region.

Reddy said, "Since BJP does not have an MP from Andhra Pradesh in either Lok Sabha or Rajya Sabha, the state leaders today met senior leaders Rajnath Singh and Arun Jaitley and pressed for moving amendments to the bill to include special economic packages for development of both Telangana and Seemandhra regions."

Listing such packages for the development of both the regions, he said, these include the Ichchampelly project in Telangana besides a project for uplifting the handicapped. Reddy also called for special power projects for Telangana from the Centre and special incentives for the promotion of industry in both regions.

The controversial bill will be presented in the Rajya Sabha in the present form and the government will move 32 amendments when it is taken up for consideration.

Lot of things are riding on amendments at this stage. For some, if the bill is going to be presented and most likely to be passed., then as well try to make the most of it and get it amended to favour seemaandhra.

[ShyamSP]

It is now open that Congress, TRS, and YSRCP are one gang from RS elections. If BJP also supports Congress, Congress gang will retain AP. Congress with "secular" parties might go UPA-3 on the blood of AP. NaMo might end up doing Chekka Bhajana (Bhajan with wooden cymbals)

Congress, TRS, YSRCP worked unitedly for RS polls
http://www.andhraheadlines.com/state/co ... 26823.html

What happens if BJP does not support the Bill in Parliament. It is clear if T Bill has to pass it needs BJP support? I mean in terms of Elections and realignment of political forces in two regions of AP.

Realignment already happened and nothing big will come.

If BJP supports it Congress+TRS+MIM gets Telangana and it will be tough for TDP to truck with BJP in non-Telangana. For Seemandhra, Congress and BJP are both culprit for playing division politics on the AP state. Seemandhra will become like Tamil Nadu with no place for Central parties in the future.

If BJP doesn't support the bill, they continue to play blame game on Congress and BJP+TDP can give tough fight in next elections. TDP can sweep Seemandhra saying voting for Congress and YSRC will lead to split in the future.

Harsh reality is that Telugus will become Kashmiris without any care for Nation. BJP will fail the nation by encouraging divisions.

[chaanakya]

Realignment already happened and nothing big will come.

If BJP supports it Congress+TRS+MIM gets Telangana and it will be tough for TDP to truck with BJP in non-Telangana. For Seemandhra, Congress and BJP are both culprit for playing division politics on the AP state. Seemandhra will become like Tamil Nadu with no place for Central parties in the future.

If BJP doesn't support the bill, they continue to play blame game on Congress and BJP+TDP can give tough fight in next elections. TDP can sweep Seemandhra saying voting for Congress and YSRC will lead to split in the future.

Harsh reality is that Telugus will become Kashmiris without any care for Nation. BJP will fail the nation by encouraging divisions.

Thnanks for reply. Your answer is a food for thought, for me.

But I don't think telugus would behave without caring for the Nation. They are too much invested in the development and well being of this country to become one. I can give you umpteen examples of their contribution starting with National Flag. But I can understand your dismay. We have been divided and got over it without much rancor.

[Vayutuvan]

Especially Telangana region which is completely land locked. They are dependent on MH and SA though the region has some coal mines.

[chaanakya]

The Concept of being Landlocked does not work in the context of Indian States as interstate trades can not be stopped. That would be relevant only if it is for a landlocked Country. Coal or other mines would be shared nationally so both would have equal access to it.

[Shanmukh]

Realignment already happened and nothing big will come.

If BJP supports it Congress+TRS+MIM gets Telangana and it will be tough for TDP to truck with BJP in non-Telangana. For Seemandhra, Congress and BJP are both culprit for playing division politics on the AP state. Seemandhra will become like Tamil Nadu with no place for Central parties in the future.

If BJP doesn't support the bill, they continue to play blame game on Congress and BJP+TDP can give tough fight in next elections. TDP can sweep Seemandhra saying voting for Congress and YSRC will lead to split in the future.

Harsh reality is that Telugus will become Kashmiris without any care for Nation. BJP will fail the nation by encouraging divisions.

The BJP does not seem to have the guts to fight in the Parliament against the Congress. Sushma and her gang are the wimpiest opposition that any government could ever hope to get. If the BJP had the tiniest bit of sense, they would be opposing the division of the state, since in one stroke, they could simply deny the whole of SeemaAndhra to the Congress or their proxies, the YSR. Once that was done, and the Congress and its gang had been wiped out in large part of SeemaAndhra, they could negotiate with the Telanganites on their terms (what are the Telangana folks going to do if their state is not given on their terms? Take that piece of real estate and run into Pakistan?) But this requires courage, the willingness to throw the non performing assets in the BJP (were they ever assets or were they always liabilities?) aside and boldly refuse to back the division of the state at the moment. Having taken the wind out of the sails of both the Congress and the YSR, they could win handsomely in SeemaAndhra, secure that region for the Hindus, and then crush the Congress in Telangana as well because the higher Muslim population in Telangana means that the Telangana folks will have to come back to the BJP and its affiliates for help (those who want to ally with the MIM should remember their fates at the hands of the Razakars). Now the BJP has handed over one part to the Razakars, the other part to the EJs. Magnificent work, BJP. Maybe the Razakars and/or EJs will give Sushma and Kishan Reddy a Darwin award for dooming the Hindus on both sides.

[Rony]

BJP Thinking

Telangana bill could make it through Parliament with BJP support

Prospects of the Telangana bill, cleared by the Union Cabinet on Friday, looked brighter with an influential section of BJP veering around to the view that it might be smart politics to facilitate passage of the legislation.

The Andhra Pradesh Reorganization Bill incorporates a concession to Seemandhra with 130 villages in Bhadrachalam district being set aside for the construction of a separate Polavaram irrigation project.

The lengthy Cabinet meeting saw ministers from Seemandhra and Telangana repeating well worn arguments while other ministers waited impatiently for proceedings to conclude.

The Congress core group on Friday also decided to push ahead with the bill which is expected to be taken up in Parliament on Wednesday.

BJP leaders backing the Telangana bill feel the party should not raise procedural objections to the bill as it would be in the saffron party's interests to let Congress face the fury of Seemandhra parties over bifurcation.

Till now, BJP has indicated that despite its commitment to Telangana, it could raise issues like whether the bill needs to be a constitutional amendment and also oppose any attempt to rush the legislation through Parliament.

But a section of the BJP is considering if the messy process of splitting Andhra Pradesh into two states is the best option as the ruling coalition will have to deal with a blowback in Coastal and Rayalaseema regions.

In the event BJP were to form a government after the Lok Sabha election, it would have to swiftly honour its commitment to create Telangana as a top post-poll priority with the attendant protests and recriminations.

If BJP were to go ahead and strongly support the Andhra Pradesh Reorganization Bill, it will immediately improve the chances of the legislation clearing Parliament though BJP's prospective ally TDP feels differently.

TDP hopes the Telangana bill can be stalled so that it can look to win seats in both regions partnering BJP. But going by the current thinking in BJP, the party seems to feel sacrificing a few seats is affordable.

BJP sources said the heat and dust over Telangana, at least in the immediate context, may subside in about a month or so by which time the campaign for the next Lok Sabha will begin rolling.

With the school of thought that sees profit in letting Congress midwife Telangana gaining salience, resistance to the bill is likely to drop, allowing government managers to deal with Seemandhra holdouts.

Government sources made it clear that options like suspending Seemandhra members, including those from Congress, are very much on the table. If proceedings remain disrupted, a voice vote can be sought too.

TDP leaders claimed Telangana opponents will demand notices for a no-confidence motion be dealt with before any legislative agenda and touted support of some regional parties, though there is little evidence of consultations.

Earlier, the Cabinet approved the Telangana bill and sources said it was true to provisions of the draft sent to the Andhra Pradesh legislature in December last year. The state assembly had rejected the draft in January end.

The bill entrusts the governor, who will handle the charge of both Telangana and Seemandhra for now, with the responsibility of maintaining law and order, internal security and security of vital installations, besides the management and allocation of government buildings in the common capital.

[Rony]

Congress Thinking

How the Telangana 'mess' may be a win-win situation for Congress

After the Union Cabinet approved the Andhra Pradesh Reorganisation Bill on forming India's 29th state of Telangana, it is expected to go to the President and then to Parliament. (Read)

Political analysts have criticised the Congress for poor party management, so much so that it allowed its own chief minister to do an Arvind Kejriwal, sitting on 'dharna', right in the capital, cocking a snook at the party leadership.

While that show of defiance and standing up against the Congress leadership, as also repeated obstruction by its own party MPs in Parliament, are seen to have reflected poorly on the image of the party, questions are being raised on whether the Congress leadership will act against Kiran Kumar Reddy at this stage. At least to silence the sarcastic jibes from the BJP, who have told the Congress to first put its own house in order.

Sources close to the Mr Reddy have said the Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister may not step down at least till the Telangana Bill is presented in Parliament. He has already publicly declared that he will not oversee bifurcation of the state, sitting in the chief minister's chair.So if the Bill goes through, as planned by the UPA, his days would be numbered.

If the UPA decides to suspend or remove him, they cannot elevate the deputy chief minister Damodar Rajanarasimha, who is from Telangana, as that would not go down well with the Seemandhra leaders. So one of the choices could be PCC chief Botsa Satyanarayana,who is seen as acceptable to Telangana too.

Either ways, the more the chief minister is seen as a rebel and the more he distances from the Congress, the better it is for the party politically. Mr Reddy may or may not launch his own political party. He may or may not get hordes of Seemandhra Congress leaders joining him. But a new party would give disheartened Seemandhra leaders a new identity and poll symbol with which to go to the people, at a time when the Congress is far from popular in Seemandhra. So while being away from the Congress, Mr Reddy would help the party keep real political opponents, Chandrababu Naidu and Jagan Mohan Reddy, in check in Seemandhra.

In Telangana, Sonia Gandhi will be tom-tomed as the leader who gave Telangana if the Bill goes through or at least someone who tried her very best to do so. So the Congress can most certainly hope to make electoral gains, as many analysts and surveys have suggested.

Incidentally, the Congress leadership acted on their promise to give a separate state of Telangana at a time when they had already lost their popular leader YS Rajasekhara Reddy and his son, Jagan, had emerged as a big challenge to the party and the Telangana Rashtra Samiti, which won only 10 assembly and two Lok Sabha seats in 2009.

The promise of Telangana had served the purpose of putting a check on Jagan, who is now virtually restricted to the Seemandhra region. The Telugu Desam, with cadres in both regions, was put in a quandary. Besides, the Congress has become the big brother in the relationship with the TRS in Telangana.

[devesh]

^^^This was always the intended INC action saar. They know Seemaandhra will never agree to Hyderabad being given to Telangana. Half of the Telangana support is because they are salivating at the prospect of rent seeking from Hyderabad. When they realize that the INC has made a fool of them and used their grievance to take Hyderabad away from the Telugu people they will suddenly learn the virtues of a united Andhra. I think INC cares jackshit about either Telangana or Seemaandhra.

salivating at anything is not our habit. without Telangana as your "strategic depth" you are destined to play 2nd fiddle to southern neighbors. isn't that why all the salivating about "telugu variki telugu rashtram" was going on since 1950's?

Hyderabad was always the city of the alien nawab anyway. History simply reasserts an old reality.

[Lilo]

^ Devesh ji,

Who is treating anyone as a strategic depth here ?
Give proof for the filthy accusations on one set you have been spouting for once.
Or stop speaking from your behind.

[devesh]

Hit a nerve have I? We should both look in the mirror. Bring along shankarcag for good measure.

[Lilo]

^Do you think its some sort of acheviemnt ?
Any idiot can spout baseless bullshit and think its some hitting the nerve game.

As I said if you don't have proof shut it with your parochial bile.

[devesh]

No I will not shut it. Telangana can salivate for Hyderabad but noble Seemandhra Telugu pride keepers cannot salivate about strategic depth?! As I said look in the mirror.

[Dasari]

^^^This was always the intended INC action saar. They know Seemaandhra will never agree to Hyderabad being given to Telangana. Half of the Telangana support is because they are salivating at the prospect of rent seeking from Hyderabad. When they realize that the INC has made a fool of them and used their grievance to take Hyderabad away from the Telugu people they will suddenly learn the virtues of a united Andhra. I think INC cares jackshit about either Telangana or Seemaandhra.

salivating at anything is not our habit. without Telangana as your "strategic depth" you are destined to play 2nd fiddle to southern neighbors. isn't that why all the salivating about "telugu variki telugu rashtram" was going on since 1950's?

Hyderabad was always the city of the alien nawab anyway. History simply reasserts an old reality.

Until now T blackmailed rest of AP with Hyderabad and division. Now even after division they have to continue pampering T, otherwise they will threaten SA to become second fiddle to souther neightbors. What a strategy? You know what, more than the division, the reaon why it became such a contentious issue was the atttitude of T separatists which was always like saying that I don't mind losing my two eyes as long my easern neighbor loses one. If 25 MPs become second fiddle to rest of South, what about 17. But that is ok, as long as SA gets hurt , T don't mind getting hurt twice.

[Lilo]

OK I take it you don't have proof .

Now i assume you are using filthy bullshit to create more animosity to make the issue more emotional between both sides.

After all T demand is itself is now a self proclaimed "emotive" issue with no logic behind it. So, Ok we all know it and acknowledge it.

Only it gets my goat when parochial people who can't see beyond "their" "borders" and "their" people take sanctimonious positions for supposedly the greater good of all of Bharat .

[devesh]

Telangana has no interest in threatening SA about anything. it has always been the latent fear of domination by southern neighbors that led to the separation of Telugu areas from Madras State. the demand rose from that fear. and joining Telangana was merely icing on the cake, so to speak.

you guys can keep on building castles about how Telangana will doom you into the rest of eternity. at the end of the day, don't forget that some of the staunchest supporters to TDP came from Telangana. and even now, TDP still has some loyal vote bank there. it is foolishness of Kosta elites who went all in with INC that caused this disaster.

so next time you are looking for some threat, look at yourself in the mirror.

[devesh]

OK I take it you don't have proof .

Now i assume you are using filthy bullshit to create more animosity to make the issue more emotional between both sides.

After all T demand is itself is now a self proclaimed "emotive" issue with no logic behind it. So, Ok we all know it and acknowledge it.

Only it gets my goat when parochial people who can't see beyond "their" "borders" and "their" people take sanctimonious positions for supposedly the greater good of all of Bharat .

'filthy', 'emotional', 'bullshit'....yada yada

so if ShankarCag posts about "salivating Telangana", it's completely ok. but if noble Telugu pride keepers SA "salivates", it's a problem.

I get it. there are hierarchies here. some people salivate because that's what they are fit to do. while other noble people stay far away from it.

[Muppalla]

Strategic Depth, land locked or resources shares are all talks when two countries divide. I don't understand why these topics get into discussions too much in the context of this division. Hilarious at best.

Introducing in RS to keep the bill alive has no meaning (other than sales point in case they cannot create Telangana) and the new government don't need to take it up. The bill does not live longer than six months as I remember.

[Lilo]

Devesh ji,
If you have a problem with Shankarcag settle it with him.
Why are you using it as an opportunity to for one of your filth heaping sessions on an entire people?

And who are the Telugu pride keepers ?
who made the claims and on whom are you railing ?