Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 Apr 2014 21:34

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maitas66 ‏@chinmaykrvd 2h

Cicero HeadLines today survey:TDP-BJP alliance to win 17-21 seats in AndhraPardesh both regions

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 19 Apr 2014 21:37

AP (T+SA) has 42 seats. if BJP-TDP win only 17-21, it's not a victory. what is Jagan's situation?

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 19 Apr 2014 21:38

http://thewrongdoctor.com/2014/01/03/juhapura/

Puke Alert
Another secular Cashmeri called Bashrat beer has a farticle in NYT today. I gave up after reading 1 para and went to readers comments.
In comments section some Rakshak posted pics of "slums " of Juhipura and is shown in the link above.

The "independent" western media is shown for what it is. Average readers are finding out how biased these rags are. There are are several western readers most likely evangelist types quoting Manoj Mitta on the SIT report.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 Apr 2014 21:40

vC ‏@vijucherian 2h

The #BJP hits the road in #Chennai. @htTweets #MyIndiaMyVote #Tamilnadu #NaMo pic.twitter.com/xI6GCJH0j3

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 19 Apr 2014 21:41

If true on that Karnataka thing it will be a crash landing for Ramya actress from Mandya seat. Ambareesh's treatment will be a big cause of it.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 Apr 2014 21:50

Bengal politics has suddenly become very interesting. Didi says "Is dafa Bengal me TMC ki bari"

Firstpost ‏@firstpostin 3h

BJP showing off its power because of Cong’s anti-people policies: Mamata http://dlvr.it/5RNcGL

Chakulia: The BJP's claim that it would come to power at the Centre replacing the Congress was because of the latter's "anti-people policies", Mamata Banerjee said today and reiterated that no government in Delhi could be formed without the TMC.

"BJP is showing off its power (to replace Congress-led government at the Centre) because of Congress's anti-people policies," the Trinamool Congress chief told an election rally here in North Dinajpur district.

"Congress has sold out the country. People are fed up with the Congress. It has inflicted miseries on the people. It has increased the price of diesel, petrol and gas and tried to snatch the livelihood of crores of small traders," she said.

Alleging that the Congress and the CPI(M) were hand in glove in the state, Banerjee, the Chief Minister, claimed that change in West Bengal would not have come about if she had not formed the Trinamool Congress.

Recalling that her party had allied with the Congress in the 2011 Assembly elections, she claimed that the TMC helped it win seats and alleged that the party, on the other hand, acted like 'Mir Jafar' and assisted the CPI(M) and its allies Forward Bloc and RSP to secure seats.

Claiming that Congress, BJP and CPI(M) were not an alternative in the elections in state, but the TMC was, she said "Is dafa Bengal me TMC ki bari."

Wary of the four-way contest in the state, she criticised the BJP for trying to cut into TMC votes. "I am against the BJP. I urge you to ensure that votes are not split."

She also claimed that no government in Delhi could be formed without the TMC. "Whenever elections come Congress, BJP and CPI(M) make promises, but don't get swayed by them," she said.

She claimed that Congress and BJP which had joined hands on the Telangana issue wanted to divide Bengal, Bihar and other parts of the country.

kvraghav · Post by **kvraghav** » 19 Apr 2014 21:55

Ramya is rahul gandhis candidate, it was a ultimatum from rg that pulled ambareesh out of hospital in singapore for campaining. Ambareesh may join jds.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 19 Apr 2014 22:06

Talked to my dad. He said that turnout in Mysore city was also very poor, about 55% or so. Overall Mysore LS constituency was around 68%.
I am surprised why people in the cities don't want to go out and vote.

archan · Post by **archan** » 19 Apr 2014 22:07

pankajs wrote:

This is only for those who were previously registered and had voter IDs, right?

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 19 Apr 2014 22:10

^perhaps they lost to kingdoms and dynasties. they have no idea what is real democracy. it would eons to get them to vote.. is there any constituency done >90% voting?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 Apr 2014 22:15

^^
I think that seems to be correct.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 Apr 2014 22:16

Anamika ‏@NameFieldmt 1h

DMK is using Hindi in their posters, Modi is giving an English interview on a Tamil channel ThanthiTV. What's happening to the world

Anyone with link?

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 19 Apr 2014 22:20

Disappointing to hear about the turnout and result projection in Mysore. If BJP needs to expand into Kerala they need to be strong in DK.

rvishwak · Post by **rvishwak** » 19 Apr 2014 22:38

why is Raj Thackery suddenly on all news channels? Aaj tak, TimesNow, CNNIBN, ABP news and 'Aap Ki Adalat' visible everywhere.

But love this man and his aggression, especially the treatment for Turdesai & Arnab.
Don't know how much Hindutva is important for this man after forming his political party keeping regional politics in mind, but he should be the person on panel debating on Hindutva if ever happens on public platform or media.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 Apr 2014 22:40

dna ‏@dna 2h

Samajwadi Party's Kailash Chaurasia and transgender Kamla file nomination against Narendra Modi in Varanasi seat http://dnai.in/caCI

New Indian Express ‏@NewIndianXpress 2h

Advani, Gadkari to campaign in #TamilNadu - http://tnie.in/1lkDqep #loksabha2014

Suddenly TN has become very important to BJP.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 19 Apr 2014 22:42

The most potent way of ensuring that the middle class goes out to vote is the threat that if they don't, their cable connections would be cut for 2 months.

Raj · Post by **Raj** » 19 Apr 2014 22:50

pankajs wrote:
Absolutely essential to read Shekhar Gupta's wonderful write up today on idea of Secularism | The Indian Express: http://indianexpress.com/article/opinio ... -g.twitter …"
Dupatta has been called a weather vane. Seems to have moderated his position.

Here is a quote from the above article.

India gave itself a secular, liberal constitution because a vast majority of all its people, in fact almost unanimously, determined that this was the finest formulation for nation-building in a land as diverse and complex as ours. The Constituent Assembly had participation from across the many ideological divides. The document it drafted has now acquired the status of scripture and nobody in mainstream politics dares to question it. The man credited with leading that process, Ambedkar, has been added to our pantheon of all-party gods.

The original constitution of India did not have Secular or Socialist in the preamble. Indira Gandhi changed the Constitution during emergency.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty-seco ... n_of_India

The 42nd Amendment also amended the Preamble and changed the characterization of India from "sovereign democratic republic" to a "sovereign, socialist secular democratic republic", and also changed the words "unity of the nation" to "unity and integrity of the nation".

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pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 19 Apr 2014 22:58

Prasanna Viswanathan ‏@prasannavishy 19m

HT prediction for TN Rt @vasudevan49: @prasannavishy ADmk 15 ,Nda 12,DMk 10 , rest others”

Raj · Post by **Raj** » 19 Apr 2014 23:05

Anantha wrote:http://thewrongdoctor.com/2014/01/03/juhapura/

Puke Alert
Another secular Cashmeri called Bashrat beer has a farticle in NYT today. I gave up after reading 1 para and went to readers comments.
In comments section some Rakshak posted pics of "slums " of Juhipura and is shown in the link above.

The "independent" western media is shown for what it is. Average readers are finding out how biased these rags are. There are are several western readers most likely evangelist types quoting Manoj Mitta on the SIT report.

The article is full of lies and innuendo. For example,
The author says Modi never visited minority relief camps.
http://hindu.com/thehindu/2002/03/07/st ... 801300.htm
Mr. Modi visited relief camps housing the minorities and instructed the officials concerned to ensure supply of essential commodities.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 19 Apr 2014 23:11

Shekhar Gupta is as usual lying. The words "secular" and "socialist" were added to the constitution during IG regime and emergency.

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 19 Apr 2014 23:30

ETV Bihar News.

Ranchi: People get angry after seeing EVMs in a vehicle at night.

Subodh Kant Sahay of Coalgate fame is contesting from Ranchi.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 19 Apr 2014 23:31

RajeshA wrote:The most potent way of ensuring that the middle class goes out to vote is the threat that if they don't, their cable connections would be cut for 2 months.

Simple. Start a "Citizens for Democracy" NGO and have the cable services shut down on poling day; Of course voluntarily.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 20 Apr 2014 00:04

The words Socialist and Secular are constitutionally illegal having not been introduced in a constitutional manner.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 20 Apr 2014 00:58

Yes, it is surprising that no one challenged it in the Supreme court. And they decide all by themselves that this illegal act is a fundamental principle that all Indians must adhere to. The correct way to do it would be through a referendum or by an elected Govt constitutionally.

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 20 Apr 2014 02:13

Supratik wrote:Yes, it is surprising that no one challenged it in the Supreme court.

Any political party that challenges it will risk losing votes.

"Secular, Socialists" have become holy words in the Republic.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 20 Apr 2014 02:25

Kakkaji wrote:
Supratik wrote:Yes, it is surprising that no one challenged it in the Supreme court.
Any political party that challenges it will risk losing votes.

"Secular, Socialists" have become holy words in the Republic.

I wonder if Subramanian Swamy would like to bite the bullet.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 20 Apr 2014 03:11

Supratik wrote:Shekhar Gupta is as usual lying. The words "secular" and "socialist" were added to the constitution during IG regime and emergency.

Since they were added during Emergency, doesn't it make the entire 42nd amendment unconstitutional? Shouldn't the BJP challenge the amendment in its entirety?

No party wants to touch this amendment because of the word secular in it. You might as well introduce another amendment with a clause called "pro-poor" in the Preamble & it will sail through Parliament

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 20 Apr 2014 03:45

pankajs wrote:
Prasanna Viswanathan ‏@prasannavishy 19m

HT prediction for TN Rt @vasudevan49: @prasannavishy ADmk 15 ,Nda 12,DMk 10 , rest others”

Friends from TN - Is this a possibility at all? Not just HT, even others are saying the same.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 20 Apr 2014 04:02

I mentioned even before all this din started the biggest surprise will be from TN! Given Orissa 7 last month. Lets see though what is next.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 20 Apr 2014 04:08

People did went to Supreme Court. It held that these words add nothing news to the constitutional scheme and Socialism in Indian constitutional meaning is not a communist dictatorship or communist economic set up has any compulsory constitutional force. Similarly Indian constitution was secular even before the amendments. Hence nothing changed due to this amendments.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 20 Apr 2014 04:24

Narayana Rao wrote:People did went to Supreme Court. It held that these words add nothing news to the constitutional scheme and Socialism in Indian constitutional meaning is not a communist dictatorship or communist economic set up has any compulsory constitutional force. Similarly Indian constitution was secular even before the amendments. Hence nothing changed due to this amendments.

Then nothing shall change with their removal.
That honorable judge should explain it to secularists once these words are removed from constitution.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 20 Apr 2014 04:46

Prem Kumar wrote:
Supratik wrote:Shekhar Gupta is as usual lying. The words "secular" and "socialist" were added to the constitution during IG regime and emergency.
Since they were added during Emergency, doesn't it make the entire 42nd amendment unconstitutional? Shouldn't the BJP challenge the amendment in its entirety?

No party wants to touch this amendment because of the word secular in it. You might as well introduce another amendment with a clause called "pro-poor" in the Preamble & it will sail through Parliament

No. Cannot be challenged in court because post-facto, the amendment was voted in by a quorum of sitting MPs.

I propose a codicil to the amendment that seeks to redefine 'secular' and 'socialist' in more classical terms.

Secular in India means preserving the religious demography (in addition to the diversity) of India. So any and all attempts to change religious demographics become unconstitutional...

Bade · Post by **Bade** » 20 Apr 2014 04:53

Secular in the Indian context means diversity of thought. Limiting it three dominant varieties of religions is a fallacy. Secularism is there to ensure diversity even within the Hindu fold, to put it bluntly.

Maybe what socialism means is debatable. India is anyway far from socialist in reality.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 20 Apr 2014 05:20

Narayana Rao wrote:People did went to Supreme Court. It held that these words add nothing news to the constitutional scheme and Socialism in Indian constitutional meaning is not a communist dictatorship or communist economic set up has any compulsory constitutional force. Similarly Indian constitution was secular even before the amendments. Hence nothing changed due to this amendments.

NR who were the judges at that time? Can you look it up?

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 20 Apr 2014 05:24

maitas66 ‏@chinmaykrvd 13h
Kerala post polling:UDF-45(9),LDF-43(11),BJP-9(0),Others-4(0).Left makes dramatic comeback riding on Ezhava-Dalit combo at BJP expense

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 20 Apr 2014 07:05

vivek.rao wrote:
maitas66 ‏@chinmaykrvd 13h
Kerala post polling:UDF-45(9),LDF-43(11),BJP-9(0),Others-4(0).Left makes dramatic comeback riding on Ezhava-Dalit combo at BJP expense

Interesting. A split of that vote ought to have benefited the UDF, not the LDF. Overall, BJP ought to eat into both their voteshares in the long term, progressively squeezing both. Mildly disappointing if neither TVM nor Kasargod pans out for BJP, but not entirely unexpected this time.

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 20 Apr 2014 07:25

vivek.rao wrote:
maitas66 ‏@chinmaykrvd 13h
Kerala post polling:UDF-45(9),LDF-43(11),BJP-9(0),Others-4(0).Left makes dramatic comeback riding on Ezhava-Dalit combo at BJP expense

I feel sad that I was unable to change my DL voter registration to KL in time for voting. I sure hope the rascal Tharoor loses (even if it is to the commie guy) in TVM. Any projection about TVM specifically ?

If these figures are correct, then it seems that breaking the evil grip of the commies and moonshiners in KL is a longer-term project. It needs to be done urgently though.

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 20 Apr 2014 07:26

Non-Yadav OBC voters may power BJP rath in west UP

FIROZABAD: It seems to be a distinct pattern and its electoral implications are immense. Conversations with townsfolk and villagers in parts of western UP show a marked consolidation of non-yadav OBC votes behind BJP. Analysts feel this could give the party the momentum to emerge with top honours in the LS polls.

At lodh-dominated Indumai village of Firozabad, Bhagirath Singh says: "We are BJP voters here." It helps that Kalyan Singh, the tallest community leader has returned to BJP and his son is contesting from Etah. In nearby Mohammadabad, shopkeeper Nihal Singh Baghel says: "I'm not voting Modi. I'm voting for the BJP candidate who's from our caste."

Some 70km away in Etah's Salempur village, another bunch is openly supporting Modi. "For the first time an OBC has got the chance to become PM," says sarpanch Kayam Singh Baghel. That's not true — Deve Gowda was the first such — but nobody here knows this.
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Even in parts of eastern UP, the consolidation is evident. In Varanasi, the Patels (kurmis in other parts) are overwhelmingly in favour of Modi. A bunch of factors — the Gujarati being a fellow OBC, the Sardar Patel statue campaign in Gujarat which the Patels appreciate — have worked in Modi's favour, even though the Patels of Gujarat have nothing in common with those in UP barring the shared surname. According to businessman Mahendra Kumar Patel, Modi's December rally in Mirza Murad, an area surrounded by Patels near Varanasi, attracted the caste en masse.

"The Patels have taken a liking to him. Even if the Apna Dal alliance hadn't happened, most of them would have voted for him," he told TOI last month. BJP has tied up with Kurmi-dominated Apna Dal; the latter contesting from Mirzapur and Pratapgarh.

Shot in the Arm for BJP as Brahmin Outfit Supports Raja, Ganesan

A leading Brahmins collective in Tamil Nadu has extended its support to two BJP candidates contesting the coming parliamentary elections in the State.

Representatives of the Tamil Nadu Brahmin Association (Registered) met South Chennai constituency candidate Ila Ganesan on Wednesday last and offered a formal letter of support to his candidature. The association, which is a breakaway group of TAMBRAS, claims to have two lakh members across 700 branches in the State. In Chennai, the outfit has around 30,000 members.

“This is the first elections we are encountering since we formed our own association four years ago,” association president Padma Gopalan said. “We have decided to support two BJP candidates in the State, Ila Ganesan and H Raja, who is contesting in Sivaganga.” While Brahmins constitute a miniscule seven per cent of the total population in the State, South Chennai has a relatively higher concentration of the community, which has generally backed the AIADMK chief J Jayalalithaa, a Brahmin. Hence, the association’s support to Ganesan, who is also a Brahmin, is expected to give an edge to the BJP candidate in what is expected to be a tough contest for the seat. “This is central elections and we want to support BJP and its prime ministerial nominee Narendra Modi,” Padma Gopalan said. “Hence, we are supporting Ganesan. He is a friendly person and a Brahmin.”

The collective’s volunteers propose to conduct door-to-door campaigning and also solicit support from residential welfare associations in the constituency. In his response, Ganesan said several trade and caste-based organisations and Lions Clubs had extended their support to him. “In this context, I welcome the support of the Brahmin association also.”

Asked about the latest opinion polls conducted by an English TV channel, which projected the NDA alliance in the State bagging only three seats out of the 39 in Tamil Nadu, he said that surveys conducted over a period of time showed a steady increase in the total number of seats for the NDA at the national level. “Similarly, things will change in a week’s time in the State too,” he quipped.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 20 Apr 2014 07:28

^a$$ KL moonshiners and commies deined my mom's voter registration as well.

commies of KL are useless for any nation on the planet.

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 20 Apr 2014 07:41

SaiK wrote:^a$$ KL moonshiners and commies deined my mom's voter registration as well.

commies of KL are useless for any nation on the planet.

After Harkishan Surjit and Jyoti Basu croaked I was hoping these parties would soon fold up. But Yechuri, Karat, Raja, and assorted Bengali commies are pulling on somehow. All useless fellows. I hope they croak soon. Silver lining is that I don't see any significant "younger generation" leadership in these parties.