Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 29 Apr 2014 12:22

Makes sense. I was hasty in drawing conclusion. Thanks folks.
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IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 29 Apr 2014 12:40

B Ramdev faces arrest under strict SC/ST law.
Dangerous and clever ploy to divide BC vs SC by congress
Needless to say EC is another institution subverted

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 29 Apr 2014 12:42

SC/ST law is the Indian version of the Pakistani blasphemy law.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 29 Apr 2014 12:42

going after people around him , as they couldnt do much to either modi or shah , wonder what effect it has on BJP's vote share

munna · Post by **munna** » 29 Apr 2014 12:50

krishnan wrote:going after people around him , as they couldnt do much to either modi or shah , wonder what effect it has on BJP's vote share

It is actually ok if he gets BRD goes to the big house. His going to jail will assuage any ill will that he generated and will also get the matter to a close, NDA/BJP has to just stay quiet. However even better would be the backlash generated amongst his followers regarding the arrest especially for the upcoming 9 seats of HP and UK. His Patanjali Peeth has good numbers of boots on the ground in these states. Regarding the battleground of UP and Bihar tough phases for NDA are more or less over, so worry less work more. A strong field level mobilization and tactical micro management of seats is needed. Thankfully no high falutin diktats from Delhi a la Punjab are there.

member_28352 · Post by **member_28352** » 29 Apr 2014 12:53

Will have an effect. Ramdev should have been more circumspect in his speech. Even the Gita advises this. In an election where every vote counts this was something that was not needed. On the contrary actually filing the case assuages some of the anger and some of the damage can be controlled. BTW the SC/ST (Prevention of Atrocities) Act is draconian in the sense that there is no concept of anticipatory bail. BR will have to be arrested and will then have to apply for regular bail.

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 29 Apr 2014 12:55

Does anyone feel that BR comment will be taken as an insult by Dalits? Or is the worry that the message will be distorted to make Dalits feel victimized?

This is worse than puppy statement episode.

munna · Post by **munna** » 29 Apr 2014 13:06

ShankarCag wrote:On the contrary actually filing the case assuages some of the anger and some of the damage can be controlled. BTW the SC/ST (Prevention of Atrocities) Act is draconian in the sense that there is no concept of anticipatory bail. BR will have to be arrested and will then have to apply for regular bail.

Exactly! He should go the big house and NOT APPLY for bail till 8-9th May, he gets to be a victim of INC

and also at the same time becomes a non-issue once inside

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Prahaar wrote:Does anyone feel that BR comment will be taken as an insult by Dalits? Or is the worry that the message will be distorted to make Dalits feel victimized?

The answer to this cannot be attempted in a short paragraph but I will give it a try. BRD's comment can be used to exploit the traditional Yadav-Jatav chasm that exists in the battleground of UP. However for that to happen there are a number of factors at play that need to be neutralized by the opponents of the NDA. First, the field force of BRD is already working on explaining their guru to the masses. Secondly, UP-Bihar are propping the BJP boat on the base of a massive OBC-MBC-EBC break in their favor owing in part to Modi's OBC status, a polarisation of SC Vs OBC may become zero sum game for UPA/UPA stooges if attempted in earnest as an increasing number of OBCs may counter polarize, since Mulayam MY belt is more of less over in the upcoming phases.

As a very old worker said to me "during election time, if you are unsure of something, just keep campaigning like crazy and reach out like raita fallen from a cup".

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 29 Apr 2014 13:13

Muppalla wrote:

This is the paagal gardhi that goes on everywhere. The JK folks have to know that local level how strategic it is important to polarize against mullah appeasing parties. For example, the Western UP folks do exactly that. In this JK world the love for the congress party even under extinction does not change. Say in Maha or AP if it happens because they don't take any direct hits and being pagal can be called ignorant. What's wrong with Jammu folks?

Jammu BJP is retarded on so many levels. However, Udhampur is half communal and half secular, AFAIK. Putting up a secular candidate would've dented BJP chances even further.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 29 Apr 2014 13:22

SC/ST law is the Indian version of the Pakistani blasphemy law.

With the retards pushing in the CVB, Islamization of India will happen with rapidity. We will positively have Sharia by 2040 if NM loses this time. So a massive effort is required from all those who want NM. This is the fight for our destiny, even 47 wasn't so much as this one is. Brits even if they stayed a decade more would have been better than Nehru. They'd have fought off Chinese aggression in Tibet for sure is my take. Tibet would have been a protectorate under India is more likely. This coconut (brown outside and white inside) rule last 65 years is worse.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 29 Apr 2014 13:25

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Singha · Post by **Singha** » 29 Apr 2014 13:49

the crowning glory of SP raj seems its "tough for police to register cases against muslim youth"

so they can indulge in all manner of crime petty to small and escape without repercussions.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 29 Apr 2014 14:15

No matter how many MPs Modi gets, he should form the Govt. Use the 18 months for rapid governance and economic reforms, some quick fixes on development front, especially road building, cleansing the system of Congis as much as possible, especially the ECI, and then go for new elections!

In the mean time he can expand his presence in Tamil Nadu, Odisha, West Bengal, Karnataka and Telangana.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 29 Apr 2014 14:17

he doesnt have to expand, people will make sure that he does, once he proves his development work, people will vote for him

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 29 Apr 2014 14:19

Singha wrote:the crowning glory of SP raj seems its "tough for police to register cases against muslim youth"

so they can indulge in all manner of crime petty to small and escape without repercussions.

One can really pity the mental blindness of Hindus who vote for SP even after this. This is worse than Mughal rule but if Yadavas are OK with getting their women teased and raped by Muslims as long as "one of our caste" is ruling UP, I would say, they deserve what they are getting.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 29 Apr 2014 14:21

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pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 29 Apr 2014 14:24

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member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 29 Apr 2014 14:27

prahaar wrote:Does anyone feel that BR comment will be taken as an insult by Dalits? Or is the worry that the message will be distorted to make Dalits feel victimized?

This is worse than puppy statement episode.

Til ka taad hai aur kuch nahin. NaMo campaign has been so successful that nobody is left with nothing to do. Hence everybody wants to 'feel' this or that about this or that.

This is what Udit Raj said about BR's comment -

"The meaning of the word and the intention behind its usage should be viewed in the right context. Ramdev is not of those kind that he would use such words in a bad context. His intention towards Dalits is not wrong," he said.

He said by merely eating or sleeping in the houses of Dalits does not change their lives as projected by Gandhi.

"Why does Rahul Gandhi not invite Dalits to his own house," he said, questioning why Congress has not been able to uplift Dalits despite being in power for so long in India.

On the FIR against Ramdev, Udit Raj, who is BJP candidate from North West Delhi, claimed Congress is unnerved at the fact that Dalits were supporting BJP.

Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/bjp- ... 57772.html

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 29 Apr 2014 14:31

when the time for the downfall of the Yadava clan came, they became arrogant and pleasure seeking. Krishna and Balarama kept quiet because they knew what was fated.

one day a group of rishis came in for a meal and they played a bad joke on the rishis. dressing up a man as a pregnant woman they asked the rishis to predict if the child would be boy or girl. seeing through this the rishis cursed the man would give birth to something that would lead to their downfall and not human.

the very next the man after acute labour pain delivered a metal mace!

they panicked and threw it into the sea where it dissolved into grains and washed ashore on a beach, where they grew into tufts of grass.

one day after a beach party the yadava leaders started argueing and fighting among themselves...satyaki and kritavarma who had fought on opposite sides each made fun of the deeds of the other that broke the rules of war. a brawl soon started and people picked up rocks and sticks. those who picked up the grass tufts saw it turn magically into maces and used that to hammer their foes.

krishna too sensing the end was near picked up a mace and started hammering.

Balarama saw this and sat down in penance, dissolving into a beam of bright light that melted into the sea.

after all were dead, krishna wandered alone into the forest and waited for the fated end and thats when the hunter shot an arrow into his foot.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 29 Apr 2014 14:39

RAGA has been asked to lie low and become invisible.

PG has been sent forth to hog the MSM limelight and give a better impression for the Congis.

but with her campaigning only in 2 places its not going to help, no matter how much english MSM tries.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 29 Apr 2014 14:58

This is totally unknown to our media, two progroms in two years and no action

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nellie_massacre

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 29 Apr 2014 15:08

I met a rare specimen- a real congressy and he was hiding in the debate under garb of 'neutral observer'

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But the moment he started praising Nehru he was caught
their debate USP is same like AAP
Yedurappa in BJP
No development in Gujarat' In fact more development in TamilNadu
BJP as corrupt as congress
RTI was brought by congi
when asked but the brain child was Arun Shourie ans is ya but congi brought it hence congi more honest
Amit Shah is another Dawood
In UP riot RSS is also involved along with SP

but finally even he was full praise on organisation and galvanisation of RSS this time

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 29 Apr 2014 15:15

ShankarCag wrote:Will have an effect. Ramdev should have been more circumspect in his speech. Even the Gita advises this. In an election where every vote counts this was something that was not needed. On the contrary actually filing the case assuages some of the anger and some of the damage can be controlled. BTW the SC/ST (Prevention of Atrocities) Act is draconian in the sense that there is no concept of anticipatory bail. BR will have to be arrested and will then have to apply for regular bail.

I wish they arrest him immediately. Polls are remaining in E.UP and Bihar. The volunteers of BJP can take a little rest as that one arrest event will polarize OBCs to booths. BR may not be get votes if he campaign but he can singlehandedly get OBCs to booths in favor of BJP. I wish the government does that immediately.

munna · Post by **munna** » 29 Apr 2014 15:18

Muppalla wrote:
ShankarCag wrote:Will have an effect. Ramdev should have been more circumspect in his speech. Even the Gita advises this. In an election where every vote counts this was something that was not needed. On the contrary actually filing the case assuages some of the anger and some of the damage can be controlled. BTW the SC/ST (Prevention of Atrocities) Act is draconian in the sense that there is no concept of anticipatory bail. BR will have to be arrested and will then have to apply for regular bail.
I wish they arrest him immediately. Polls are remaining in E.UP and Bihar. The volunteers of BJP can take a little rest as that one arrest event will polarize OBCs to booths. BR may not be get votes if he campaign but he can singlehandedly get OBCs to booths in favor of BJP. I wish the government does that immediately.

Eggjactly sir!!" Bhagwaan ke liye" please arrest him

The gobermund in the state and centre plus EC does not understand that it was midnight action at Ram Lila ground and jailing of Anna that brought their image to tatters. Try again sir!

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 29 Apr 2014 15:18

nageshks wrote: If he succeeds, he will have inevitably changed the voting patterns across the country, sending most parties to the dustbin of history.

SPECTACULAR POST NAGESHKS...

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 29 Apr 2014 15:26

ramana wrote:
Hari Seldon wrote:Hmmm. so BRF gurus are saying the conservative lotus tally this time will be ~ 190-200.

Wahan, we have amitbhai shah reeling out his 'conservative' estimate of 272 (for NDA, not just BJP). Time will tell who's more right. Truth is likely to be somewhere in between of course...
HS
PMO is setting files on fire. Do you think that's a sinners move?

It is a signal much like the papal enclave. In this case, it means white flag

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 29 Apr 2014 15:41

BTW if any one missed-Mulayam in his speech today said ''ayyashi ki wajah se badhi mehangai'' --pleasure seeking led to price rise

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 29 Apr 2014 15:48

Murugan wrote:This is totally unknown to our media, two progroms in two years and no action

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nellie_massacre

mongoldoi is still a mini-BD.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 29 Apr 2014 16:26

Massive voter name deletion in uttarakhand also, as i suspected all congi ruled states are subverted

Sanjay · Post by **Sanjay** » 29 Apr 2014 16:37

muraliravi, did you factor that in to your assessment of likely seat tallies ?

niran, isn't the impact of voter deletion and the barrage against NaMo taking a toll on our potential seat totals ?

Could it be BJP is being overly optimistic and overconfident ?

Not disbelieving you for a moment, just worried out of my mind!

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 29 Apr 2014 16:56

RamaY wrote:I wonder if Modi going aggressive against JJ and MB is an indication of reaching near 272 or a desperate act to get as many as possible above 200...

I think it is the former because Modi has no incentive to strengthen DMK/Congress or CPI/Congress alliance by splitting anti termite votes.

Moi thoughts too, only May 16th can tell for certain. It is tough to read from the rhetoric. If you watch the Congress and MSM aggression one would think similarly for Congress. Is Congress trying to get past 100, or does it see a chance to get to 140. Modi's team have to decided to move their King straight to the center of the board. Is it a trap or is it suicidal?

What is clear is that, Modi's team realizes they have enough troops on their side. Their siege of the fort is over, their scouting and attacks on the fort walls are over. It is time to barge into the fort and head straight to the palace. That is what is happening, and by doing so they are going to invite the elite troopers of the opposition. And Modi is riding the lead horse, with million soldiers. Unfortunately , baring Amit and a few blossoming young leaders, there are no other generals on his side. They are either too old, lack confidence & motivation, incompetent, clueless or sold out.

On May 16th, he ALONE will enter the King's chambers. Who will come out?

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 29 Apr 2014 17:06

Uttarakhand in 2012 Assembly elections had somewhat favoured Congress in Hill areas and BJP was stronger in the plains of Uttarakhand.

This time it seems the Hill regions would go for the BJP. Now which part is this input of voter list deletion coming from.

Just get one rally with Khanduri to say that he will open up teacher's vacancies at primary & secondary level and put special focus on betterment of little kids left behind in this money order economy. Also declare some scheme for cement roads for villages in the hills from the nearest tarmacked road. Seed this information through some nukkad sabhas etc. in the East Delhi & Govt. colonies in Delhi and Lucknow region where Pahadis have good numbers. They will surely call on folks back home to vote for BJP.

Uttarakhand will vote on May 7, so still some time left.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 29 Apr 2014 17:07

Who decides whom to arrest or lodge an FIR against whom and under which section ?
Is EC powerful enough to order arrest of anyone during election season ? Why no order of arrest against Pawar or his nephew or so many jokers.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 29 Apr 2014 17:28

Sanjay wrote:muraliravi, did you factor that in to your assessment of likely seat tallies ?

niran, isn't the impact of voter deletion and the barrage against NaMo taking a toll on our potential seat totals ?

Could it be BJP is being overly optimistic and overconfident ?

Not disbelieving you for a moment, just worried out of my mind!

I have factored that in. But to be fair, congress plays these games in states where it rules and BJP does the same in states ruled by them. Let us have president's rule in Chhattisgarh for 1 year and then have elections, let me see if BJP can win after that, i very much doubt.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 29 Apr 2014 18:27

paging SRoy, Supratik.

modi was not wrong.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 29 Apr 2014 18:31

muraliravi wrote: Here are the exit polls in 2009

Headlines Today: UPA 191, NDA 180
Star-AC Neilsen: UPA 199, NDA 196
India TV-C Voter: UPA 189-201, NDA 183-195
CNN-IBN-CSDS: UPA 185-205, NDA 145-160
The Times of India: UPA 198, NDA 183

I would say csds was closest to reality, they got NDA almost perfect, they predicted the wind correctly, but just did not predict the extent of UPA victory very accurately. So I would not conclude that they were wrong, and surely they were not right either.

Final results of 2009: UPA 262, NDA 159, 3rd Front 79. Could be because NDA allies were well known and UPA allies accumulated as the election in 2009 went on.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 29 Apr 2014 18:33

Mort Walker wrote:
muraliravi wrote: Here are the exit polls in 2009

Headlines Today: UPA 191, NDA 180
Star-AC Neilsen: UPA 199, NDA 196
India TV-C Voter: UPA 189-201, NDA 183-195
CNN-IBN-CSDS: UPA 185-205, NDA 145-160
The Times of India: UPA 198, NDA 183

I would say csds was closest to reality, they got NDA almost perfect, they predicted the wind correctly, but just did not predict the extent of UPA victory very accurately. So I would not conclude that they were wrong, and surely they were not right either.
Final results of 2009: UPA 262, NDA 159, 3rd Front 79. Could be because NDA allies were well known and UPA allies accumulated as the election in 2009 went on.

Yes sir, so overall while most exit polls got UPA close to 200, they overestimated NDA and CSDS was the only one to get NDA right. But exit polls are easier than prepolls. I had posted csds prepolls in 2009 also, they did well on that too.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 29 Apr 2014 18:44

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What the devil! ED: Saradha's Sudipto Sen bought Mamata's paintings for Rs 3cr in wife Piyali's a/c http://www.mumbaimirror.com/news/india/ ... 068458.cms …

The Calcutta High Court on Monday ordered the West Bengal government to repay investors affected by the Saradha chit fund scam.

In addition, the enforcement directorate (ED) has started investigating the role of TMC ministers in the multi-crore scam.

Sources in the ED said that West Bengal Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee, who is also an artist, sold two of her paintings to Saradha CEO Sudipta Sen for Rs 3 crore.

"The transactions were made from the account of Sen's wife Piyali," the source added.

Piyali Sen and her son Subhajit were arrested last week for their alleged role in a money laundering case.

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Will now Mamata apologize to Namo? TMC Audited accounts reveals for 2012, Rs 3.93 crores receipts from sale of paintings !! Where is Arnab?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 29 Apr 2014 19:30

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RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 29 Apr 2014 19:39

Singha wrote:when the time for the downfall of the Yadava clan came, they became arrogant and pleasure seeking. Krishna and Balarama kept quiet because they knew what was fated.
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The Yadavas who followed Sri Krishna & Balarama went to Dwaraka.
There are some Yadavas who stayed back under Jarasamdha's rule. Current Yadava population is that group.