Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

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Postby SaiK » 07 May 2014 20:23

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Postby krishnan » 07 May 2014 20:36

i took it from twitter

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Postby muraliravi » 07 May 2014 20:53

vivek.rao wrote:Don't doubt the fascist of India: Libtards,scum Liberals living in London/US/COMMIES/CASTIESTS/Islamic fanatics/PAIDMEDIA/ITALIANMAFIA

Will do Any thing, will ally with anyone even ISI,IM,LeT,JuD and even Taliban.

With election results just around the corner, Congress is floating the idea of an ‘enlarged’ United Progressive Alliance-III taking on board new allies and keeping their options open on leadership issues to stop Narendra Modi.




Well, all this is just empty brainstorming within congress. If BJP hits 195 and its allies (SAD-5, SS-11, TDP-13, LJP-3, RLSP-1, AD-1, TN Allies - 4, NPF-1, Swabhimani/RPI/Others - 1) get 40 seats, NDA will have 235. They will need roughly 35 seats to form govt.

I dont see Jaya and Naveen bending to congi needs to keep Modi out. BJP can form govt quite easily. They will ask for their pound of flesh, but will support BJP finally.

I mean the mutual cancellations of DMK/ADMK, TMC/Left, BJD/Cong will ensure that no 3rd front will form. There are only 2 shameless parties that will support congis inspite of their conflict and that is sp & bsp. But that is not enough to form govt.

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Postby kapilrdave » 07 May 2014 20:56

Why congoons, MSM, EC not scared of NM? What scares me is that the audacity is growing more and more as they see the defeat approaching them. What makes them so confident? EVM-magic? It will get bloody if they do it out of proportion i.e. limit bjp to less than 180. Anything above that will still get NM as PM. How much bloody it will get is anybody's guess. But I think congoons saw it early hence mitigated the risk by handpicking the military chiefs. So even the supreme commander can't do anything about it. And then, they always have MSM with them to paint everyone along with NM as megalomaniac and even anti-state. And no, EVMs can't be assumed to be safe anymore. They have been under "tight security" of EC for long now. That means in cong's custody.

The vested interests had to act sooner or later or they will perish. It is scary. Very scary.

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Postby fanne » 07 May 2014 21:02

If anyone is planning something bad, Modi in Varanasi should be very careful.

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Postby Victor » 07 May 2014 21:12

panduranghari wrote:Modi has said HE wont be vindictive when he started this campaign of congress mukt bharat. Read between the lines and you have your answer.

He also said "kuch logon ko to darna hi padega" (some people need to be afraid). There is no vindictiveness needed by BJP to clean out the filth that has accumulated. Just letting the law take its course without interference will do the job. The pendulum has swung so far to one side, just bringing it back to center is enough to finish the dynasty and its beneficiaries.

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Postby chaanakya » 07 May 2014 21:14

Last three days and he needs to be more careful. NaMo has already won. BJP is 272+ and NDA is 300+ But enemies would do everything to risk his elimination. Ishwar Unki Raksha Kare.

btw he has z+ security and he does not trust them fully. His security is headed by DIG rank officer of Gujrat with more than 100 Policemen from Elite commando force of GP. Hopefully that should be adequate.

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Postby krishnan » 07 May 2014 21:16

they should fly a few UAV up there and keep track of surrounding

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Postby Rahul Mehta » 07 May 2014 21:33

The existing NaMo wave is 5% reality, and 95% of it is same as the Anna\AK wave we had seen in apr-2011 , aug-2011, aug-2012, oct-2013 etc.
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'A few weeks back, some ALL 50+ news channels were showing NaMo;s pre-recorded interview at the same time, and no ad came in the middle. Such synching across all news channels is NOT possible unless channels owners were directly ordered by MNC-owners to do such synching, And each channel charges 5 times the normal paid-interview charges for such "all channels show same interview" event.
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Universal show is when all channels of a genre show same event. This is done to FORCE user to watch that show. No matter how many times he changes channels, he will see the same event. And so TV-viewer will give up the idea of changing the channel and start watching it like a tame dog, And constant exposure to same will make him like the event !!!
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This can be organic if event is some live cricket match etc,. But if a pre-recorded interview has to be shown on all channels at same time, then it cannot be organic and has to be planned and huge money has to be paid, and it requires direct orders from channels' owners and super-owners. And if interview is of huge political importance, then price is very very huge.
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Money alone cant buy such coverage. IOne has to cut a huge quid-pro-quo deal with channels owners and super-owners.
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This has happened before in India. In apr-2011, MNC-owners paid all channels to show Anna\AK , Anna]AK and Anna\AK and nothing else, and so Anna\AK became huge hit. And then in aug-2011 too, MNC-owners and Missionaries paid hige money to show Anna\AK, Anna\AK , Anna\AK and nothing else. And so again, Anna\AK became hige superhero, And then we saw same in sep-2013 to nov-2013, where MNC-owners shows AK to the extent that he became superman.
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In case of NaMo , there is 5% reality. eg Gujarat has better electricity, less corrupt admin etc.But the FACT that paid-media didnt ask question to NaMo on Kashi Vishvanath Devalaya, census-2011, Reliance gas price increase, failing municipal schools in ahmedabad, Krishna Janambhoomi, BJP's unkept promises to expel Bangladeshi in 1996/1998 etc shows that paid-media was paid NOT to ask these questions. And this was done to ensure that NaMo doesnt look bad. BJP doesnt have such control over media. Only MNC-owners have such control over media. So why are MNC-owners helping NaMo? its not hard to see why --- NaMo is silent on Mauritus route, NaMo has also convinced Swami Ramdevji to drop Mauritius route issue, NaMo is silent on revoking tax benefits to SEZ , NaMo agreed WTO's demand of GST, NaMo agreed on FDI on everything except multi-brand retail and so forth. IOW, NaMo agreed with almost all demands of MNC-owners and in return,, MNC-owners have him royal media coverage, and also reduced coverage of AK.
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Now I have utter disrespect for anyone and everyone who takes help of MNC-owned mediamen. The biggest reason I hate Anna\AK has been that he colluded with MNC-owned paid-media to peddle this useless Janlokpal. NaMo shouldnt have colluded with foreign-owned mediamen. Taking OFFICIALLY paid advt is ok, and even paid news is pardonable. But taking strategic help from MNC-owned paid-media is a disreputable move.
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Postby a_bharat » 07 May 2014 21:36

Modi should avoid the kind of slow moving roadshow he did the other day.
Will be a great TV spectacle, but the risk is not worth and is unnecessary.
All it takes is a sharp shooter at a window.

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Postby vivek.rao » 07 May 2014 21:42

Rahul Mehta wrote:that paid-media didnt ask question to NaMo on Kashi Vishvanath Devalaya, census-2011, Reliance gas price increase, failing municipal schools in ahmedabad, Krishna Janambhoomi, BJP's unkept promises to expel Bangladeshi in 1996/1998 etc shows that paid-media was paid NOT to ask these questions.


What kind of nonsense is that?

1. PADIMEDIA asking about Kashi temple or Krishna temple? They asked him about Ayodhya repeatedly and he replied perfectly. PAIDMEDIA tried every twisted trick; "He called Priyanka daughter; He used Rama Picture; He used caste card; Amit Shah wanted revenge"

2. They used half statements, outright lies to paint a fascist takeover of India by Modi with Development mask where as Amit Shah is dangerous Hitler behind him.

3. If you haven't paid attention every sneeze,word of Priyanka Vodka is projected as PG slams Modi, PG chides Modi, PG blasts Modi; PG questions Modi; PG questions Modi; PG ridicules Modi;

Conspiracy theories are fine. But not even looking at one and creating a story after story is ridiculous without giving a month time to Modi.
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Postby Vikas » 07 May 2014 21:44

Rahul Mehta, Are you the only one who is not on the payrolls of MNC. After all everyone else is being pulled by some mysterious benevolent MNC.
Who knows even BRF posters are also being paid to be Pro-BJP and NaMo.

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Postby Arunkumar » 07 May 2014 21:47

Agree with the sentiments here, 5 days to go not worth taking any risks. Modi should take rest so that his throat heals for nations address on may-16. Dont want a Battle of Sinhagad redux....the fort is captured....but....

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Postby fanne » 07 May 2014 21:49

OR RM ji is on the payroll, just that by asking us not to vote for Modi, he is letting the Congoons win, which ultimately what the MNCs want. It is a sophisticated game, but alas, only RM (and AK) think that they have the brains, others do not.

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Postby member_28397 » 07 May 2014 21:58

★Isha 300+★ @ikashyap · 18m
Know y Arnab isnt on Newshour tonight? Because he's interviewing NaMo in Gandhinagar RIGHT NOW.It'll b broadcasted on 11th.Mad TRP confirmed

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Postby SaiK » 07 May 2014 22:09

krishnan wrote:they should fly a few UAV up there and keep track of surrounding

snoop-gate++? just keep moles inside to tweet pics

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Postby krishnan » 07 May 2014 22:11

it can be handled by his security team

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Postby SaiK » 07 May 2014 22:14

then they shud use the rc walas

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Postby kmkraoind » 07 May 2014 22:15

It seems alcoholics have loose control on their minds and tongues. First, it was Mani Shankar Ayer that gave chai and chaiwala insulting remark, that NaMo latched and used to his advantage. When that "chai" thing is becoming routine, now Mrs. Vadka has given "neech" jibe and now NaMo is using it to the tilt to tell scams and ills of UPA.

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Postby Mihaylo » 07 May 2014 22:19

I think the value of a road show at this late stage is miniscule. It is downright foolishness. And no security can handle a roadshow of such magnitude. We are talking about thousands of people within a few meters of a High Value target. There will be anarchy if something goes wrong.

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Postby James B » 07 May 2014 22:22

Lost her mental balance.

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Postby chaanakya » 07 May 2014 22:23

Arnab got audience of Sri Narendra Modi ji on 11th for his programme frankly Speaking. What a timing . On 12th Polling and he will be taking on Congi chamcha head on a day before.

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Postby muraliravi » 07 May 2014 22:33

Rahul Mehta wrote:.

In case of NaMo , there is 5% reality. eg Gujarat has better electricity, less corrupt admin etc.But the FACT that paid-media didnt ask question to NaMo on Kashi Vishvanath Devalaya, census-2011, Reliance gas price increase, failing municipal schools in ahmedabad, Krishna Janambhoomi, BJP's unkept promises to expel Bangladeshi in 1996/1998 etc shows that paid-media was paid NOT to ask these questions. And this was done to ensure that NaMo doesnt look bad. BJP doesnt have such control over media. Only MNC-owners have such control over media. So why are MNC-owners helping NaMo? its not hard to see why --- NaMo is silent on Mauritus route, NaMo has also convinced Swami Ramdevji to drop Mauritius route issue, NaMo is silent on revoking tax benefits to SEZ , NaMo agreed WTO's demand of GST, NaMo agreed on FDI on everything except multi-brand retail and so forth. IOW, NaMo agreed with almost all demands of MNC-owners and in return,, MNC-owners have him royal media coverage, and also reduced coverage of AK.
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How many times do I have to explain to you that both 1991 and 2001 census were released in sep 1994 and sep 2004 respectively. Why would 2011 census be an exception, looks like you just want to parrot your pet statements with no basis.

Why should modi explain what BJP did in 1996/98 on bangladeshi issue, was he a minister in the NDA govt? He has said that they will expelled now, if he does not do that by 2019, we all have every right to ask him. On your other questions, lesser said the better.

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Postby chaanakya » 07 May 2014 22:35

And Turdesai did not get any audience. Mediacrooks reports that he is begging 3D hologram of Namo to be interviewed.

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Postby vivek.rao » 07 May 2014 22:37

^^ Don't worry about RMji. He has good legislations on his mind.

But he is obsessed with his conspiracy theories and has no clue when it comes to rationalize them.

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Postby Mort Walker » 07 May 2014 22:41

MRJi,

Please give RM a break. He is truly anti-establishment and you've got to respect that. He raises questions, which some may be nonsensical, but are still necessary to be asked. If any govt. were to implement some of RM suggestions, I think we would all be a lot better off.

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Postby Karan M » 07 May 2014 22:53

Yeah sure but it is the same sort of anti establishment BS that led to the unthinking acceptance of the AAP by many purely because it was anti establishment. I also remember how spinster and co raved and ranted 10x on ABV and co, gleefully picking up on any slights real amd imagined. And what came thereafter? Anarchists can go suck eggs as far as governance is concerned. Tbe jury system shows its impotence time and again in the US but RM swears by it. This is quackery.

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Postby SaiK » 07 May 2014 23:10

The uprise of the quackeries should prove a point about our democratic setup.. we have to start plugging that hole, right from constitutional amendments.. There was a thread open, and RM ji should seriously focus on that thread, and those who are really interested to bring some valuable points to the table.

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Postby SwamyG » 07 May 2014 23:11

krishnan wrote:EC is loosing a lot of credibility this election , people always maybe had doubt, all that has been made open this time

It does not matter what is being said. It matters who is saying that. Now Modi is saying it, and people are listening and noticing it. Is is Bhagvad Gitae only because Bhagwan said it, no :mrgreen: ?

ps: Also there is neram, kalam and samayam.

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Postby SaiK » 07 May 2014 23:13

yeah.. for gullible desis, add pralayam as the date fixed to correct EC!
the question is do you want to create one or fix one?

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Postby SwamyG » 07 May 2014 23:20

Rahul M wrote:
SanjayC wrote:One lesson I have learnt from Hindu history is to be ruthless with your enemies when you are strong and decimate them totally. Leniency, fair play, benevolence only make you a useful idiot because the enemy won't show these traits to you when it gets power over you. History is full of misplaced generosity of Hindu rulers who later had their throat cut by the same dudes.

"fires and enemies should be put out completely"
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Kural 674 By sage Tiruvalluvar

Reflect on this: efforts and enemies, if left unfinished,
can both ravage you like an unextinguished fire.


Everybody urges and agrees.....finish them off :-)

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Postby SwamyG » 07 May 2014 23:22

Marten wrote:I really would like to see VKS and JJ also involved (basically, keep ALL sides mollified but occupied in fixing what is broken).

Make JJ the governor of WB :rotfl:

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Postby Karan M » 07 May 2014 23:35

SaiK wrote:The uprise of the quackeries should prove a point about our democratic setup.. we have to start plugging that hole, right from constitutional amendments.. There was a thread open, and RM ji should seriously focus on that thread, and those who are really interested to bring some valuable points to the table.


Go ahead, encourage the anarchists and see where it takes you. RM is not encumbered by minor things like facts and details. Same as with AAP et al. Its always burn the system, tear it down, recreate something else - copied from someplace else or their own crackpot idea. Thanks but no thanks.

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Postby SaiK » 07 May 2014 23:38

hey.. at least i am engaging them.. no? :twisted:

it is a takniq - what is auto-boxing?

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Postby Karan M » 07 May 2014 23:45

More you engage them, more you encourage them and there is no dearth of those gullible enough to destroy the very tree they sit under, as the entire AAP fracas proved.

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Postby vivek.rao » 07 May 2014 23:46

One thing is sure: Libtards, Looters, Scammers, West all are sweating and panting at the thought of Modi

More than any election since 1977, this election is about an individual

At a continuing series of discussions on India Decides 2014: Assessing the Election and Beyond organised by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Devesh Kapur, director of Centre for Advanced Study of India, University of Pennsylvania, noted that more than any Indian PM or PM candidate, Modi was beholden to almost no one except himself -- not to his party; not even to the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, which in fact doesn’t like him, but is ‘making virtue out of necessary;’ not to civil society, not to the NGOs, and not in even to business, which ‘sees him as the best hope and not the other way around.’

‘He’s in my opinion, in many, many ways, an outsider -- a complete outsider and it’s been very well established,’ Kapur said.



It’s precisely why the Delhi establishment is so wary and apprehensive about him. They have been so used to the fact that when a friend’s child or cousin’s niece has to be admitted to a school or somewhere, they can call someone -- they are now not sure who to call. He’s not one of them and the feeling is very much mutual.’

He noted that everything that had been said and written about Modi reminded him of the American Public Education documentary Waiting for Superman: ‘Everyone is sort of projecting their hopes and apprehensions on an individual and there are two problems with this fixation. One is we really don’t know much about this guy. He’s come up -- he was a tea-seller’s son -- and many of you know about Indian society that when you come up from that background, you’ve gone through terrible humiliation in your life growing up and you know how to hold your cards very close to the chest. This is a man who holds his cards very close to this chest.’



Let’s take a bill like the Land Acquisitions Bill, which many people believe is terrible and can impede industrialization, etc. But he cannot just roll back that bill because he doesn’t have a majority in the Upper House.


And, views about him are extremely polarised and polarised not only in India, but in the United States and I am sure here in Washington as well. His supporters have very high expectations of him on the economic front and his detractors have deep apprehensions about him on the social front, especially apprehensions about the implications for India’s secular fabric.’


He said the likely metamorphosis from Dr Manmohan Singh to Modi was from one extreme to the other -- ‘too little power and too much power.’ Kapur then pointed out the realistic limits of power.



Kapur also tackled the big question: Modi’s humiliation by the State Department by denying him a visa in 2005.

My sense is that because he recognises that he must get the economy on track -- and that is the thing he’s most recognised for -- and to get the economy on track, he knows he has to get the US investors on his side. So, on that he will not sulk. (But) he’s a man who does not forgive and forget easily and I have zero doubt that he will hold what the US did to him; he will keep that in mind.’

Tellis also acknowledged that Modi had been bruised by US policy decisions over the years.



Unfortunately, there’s very little that can be done to fix the specific issues that were the source of his grievances, which had to do with a visa and so on and so forth,’ he said. But we in the United States really need to have a more welcoming attitude to him sooner rather than later.’ :rotfl:

I think he will make his decisions based on what he sees as the national interest -- he’s smart enough to know that India’s interests vis-à-vis the United States are so and so and he will pursue those. The real question is whether he will do it with enthusiasm. :rotfl: And, so, how the United States reaches out to him will make a real difference to that question of enthusiasm.


Kapur said, ‘The upside that you are going to see is very likely in infrastructure -- the man likes to build like the Chinese vision. The downside, which might be apprehensive, is how he handles dissent. I am not sure he is a person who knows how to handle it well.’

Economist Arvind Subramanian declared, ‘With the present Prime Minister it was all Hamlet and no Macbeth. With Modi, the fear is that it will be exactly the opposite.’



Afraid. Be afraid SCUMBAG looter Libtards. be afraid. No more Bharat Ratnas. No more Padma bhushans/Sris.

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Postby shyamoo » 07 May 2014 23:48

Karan M wrote:Go ahead, encourage the anarchists and see where it takes you. RM is not encumbered by minor things like facts and details. Same as with AAP et al. Its always burn the system, tear it down, recreate something else - copied from someplace else or their own crackpot idea. Thanks but no thanks.

Karan, +108.

Many moons ago, I put the gentleman in question on 'Ignore' list. Enjoyed peace of mind since then. He has been actively undermining NaMo / BJP while plugging his spiel. He is AAP ka BAAP. He provides false/inaccurate information and puts the onus on us to prove it as incorrect and ignores the same when provided. If this isn't trolling, I don't know what is. And why are people encouraging all the CTs by claiming that there could be some truth behind it?

Bradmins have been very lenient with him. Other have been warned when they promoted their stuff but not this gentleman. I wonder why? :?:

I hate it when people quote his posts. Defeats the purpose of putting him on ignore.

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Postby Vikas » 07 May 2014 23:48

SwamyG wrote:
Marten wrote:I really would like to see VKS and JJ also involved (basically, keep ALL sides mollified but occupied in fixing what is broken).

Make JJ the governor of WB :rotfl:


Better idea, Let Bardhan or Yechuri or Karat be the Governor of WB :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Postby ramana » 07 May 2014 23:57

Wrong analogy. Why do they have to speak using Shakespeare and that to incorrectly?

My fundamental question is why do Washington power circles care so much to keep Modi in doghouse all the UPA decade? And now want to balme him in advance as Macbeth a shady/flawed character, when they should go by the Bible ' Sow the wind and reap the whirlwind".

Or Old Testament "An eye for an eye...."

And as I tweeted to Walter Mead 'Experts should worry about getting US economy on track and not about far away leaders....."


guy is still in shock!

OK where is the US money that can be incested in India!!!

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Postby JE Menon » 07 May 2014 23:59

Vnmshyam,

Natya shastra. That's why.


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