Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 21 Apr 2014

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 11 May 2014 16:04

May 11th - the day of reckoning for Im-duh-Dim and Shrilleen Ma-Zari (Remember - it also happens to be Mother's day). Anyway, this image of a liberal baki coming to a street in pakhanistan near you:

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 11 May 2014 18:01

Blast in Peshawar kills five, wounds 14

PESHAWAR : An explosion near Bacha Khan Chowk in Peshawar killed at least five persons and wounded 14 others, DawnNews reported.

http://vimeo.com/94824442

Cheers

jash_p · Post by **jash_p** » 11 May 2014 18:32

anupmishra
May 11th - the day of reckoning for Im-duh-Dim and Shrilleen Ma-Zari (Remember - it also happens to be Mother's day). Anyway, this image of a liberal baki coming to a street in pakhanistan near you:

quary to gurus and Pakilurkeres, is Jihad khans drama is for one day or till "phate tak"

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 11 May 2014 20:43

Armed clash leaves 5 dead, 1 injured in Bannu

BANNU: Five people, including a father and a son, were killed and another was injured in an armed conflict between two groups in Bannu, Express News reported on Sunday.

The incident took place near Bannu’s Soorangi area, where two groups clashed over a land-related dispute.

The fight turned violent when members of both the groups took out their guns.

The deceased and the injured were shifted to Bannu District Hospital.

Police have started investigation into the incident; however no arrest has been made as yet.
Cheers

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 11 May 2014 20:49

Shrileen Ma-Ta-Hari effect?

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 11 May 2014 21:47

Another article quotes Faranaz Ispahani (Husain Haqqani's wife) that Modi's win will be bad for the region because he is likely to retaliate strongly to things like Mumbai attacks, because he is anti-muslim!!

No matter how smart, educated and intelligent you are, pakiness slips through.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 11 May 2014 23:19

pgbhat wrote:Not sure if posted.
Fazlullah sacks Sajna as TTP chief of SWA

Is that his real name? I mean, doesn't "Sajna" translate to "loverboy" or something of that sort?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 12 May 2014 01:23

Who will be the next Indian army chief?

http://tribune.com.pk/story/707137/who- ... rmy-chief/

In the backdrop of the ongoing worrisome Indian elections, another, totally unnecessary controversy has arisen in India; that of the appointment of Indian Army Chief General Bikram Singh’s successor, when General Bikram retires in July this year. The issue is interesting since the BJP is protesting the right of the Congress-led United Progressive Alliance (UPA) to appoint the next army chief because the UPA is expected to lose the election in India.The BJP conveniently forgets its own appointment of Admiral Arun Prakash as the Indian Naval chief, days before it was to leave office in 2004. Is there more to this controversy than meets the eye?A former Pakistani soldier commenting on the appointment of the Indian army chief must broach the subject with caution. But the ongoing controversy being reported in the Indian media provides me some justification to try. Since well before Partition, India has strictly adhered to the principle of seniority in the appointment of the army chief, with only one noteworthy exception. While seniority is one consideration, I hold the opinion that it must not be the overriding one for two reasons: firstly, it is very well to contend that all three-star officers are fit to rise to four star, but we know it is not true.One is reminded of The Peter Principle, i.e., that every man rises to his level of incompetence. It may not be easy for politicians to select the most competent of those in the run in militaries, but they should, at least, be able to eliminate the most incompetent.Secondly, and far more importantly, strict adherence to seniority makes it possible for any chief to ensure who succeeds his successor. There has been at least one occasion when a Pakistani army chief attempted to do the same; but since seniority is not adhered to here, he did not succeed. The fact that the one who was appointed in Pakistan turned out to be an unmitigated disaster is not germane here.As a matter of fact, Bikram’s predecessor, General VK Singh, accused his predecessor, General JJ Singh, of doing just that; emplacing the officer who would succeed his successor.Since the retirement of General VP Malik, the Indian chief during Kargil, appointments of senior military officers have been controversial. After his retirement, there were rumblings of discontent regarding Malik’s selection for promotions too, but since then, this subject seems to come up with considerable regularity.During VK’s time, the controversy became farcical. VK’s birth certificate gave a date of birth which made him a year older than his claims and, therefore, due for retirement. VK refused to accept the governmental decision and had it reversed by the court.
But VK’s controversy didn’t end with his retirement. He is central to the ongoing one as well. After retirement, VK joined the BJP and is their candidate for Ghaziabad, where he is expected to win.
Strictly according to seniority, Bikram’s successor is General Dalbir Singh Suhag — but after Suhag is General AK Singh. AK’s son is married to VK’s daughter. Is that the missing link?
It does seem the only available explanation. After publicly questioning the UPA’s right to appoint Bikram’s successor, the BJP leadership has written to President Pranab Mukherjee, the ceremonial (but still) Supreme Commander of the Indian military. Meanwhile, a subtle but scurrilous vilification campaign has begun against Suhag.That does seem to explain this controversy. VK is still up, running, and has plenty of fresh tricks up his sleeve. But where is it headed and what will be the outcome?I am not aware of the profile of AK. But, if Modi wants to ensure that he has an army chief of his choice, it can only mean one thing, i.e., that he wants a chief who is ‘like-minded’. This cannot but bode ill for Pakistan. Needless to say, the Pakistan military will be following this development with interest. One can but hope that our defence minister and prime minister, perhaps after reading this, will also be concerned.
However, the worst fallout of these developments will be on the Indian Army: the rank and file. What confidence can an army chief inspire in his soldiers and young officers if he is appointed through such a dubious selection process?What kind of ‘loyalists’ will he select for promotions to senior ranks? Whom will he position to succeed his successor? The quality and quantity of damage an incumbent does may often not be so visible during his tenure, as it is after his departure. The tragedy is that misdeeds of any chief are inherited by his successor(s) and frequently, also attributed to the successor who is actually suffering from them.We might not have followed seniority but we have had our share of Ziaul Haqs, Musharrafs and their ilk. Even our last chief, having made a wonderful start for his first two and a half years, lost his way after he sought an extended extension; though he must be given credit for his continuous efforts to nurture democracy.Ashfaq Kayani at least retains that legacy. But if the efforts of Modi/BJP/VK succeed, what will be AK’s legacy; an ill wind for the profession of arms in India? The Indian rank and file have my sympathies, just as the Pakistani rank and file have had them after an ill wind has swept our land.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 12 May 2014 03:47

^^^^
Vigilant Pakistani journalists like these are the ones who have preserved civilian supremacy in India and kept India coup free.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 12 May 2014 04:28

The love fest with everything Arabic continues. Note the subtle refenerce to South Asia and 5000 years of history.The past is us

the Arabisation of Pakistani society

that overarching question: what is Pakistani culture, and how should it be defined in the first place?

For some years now we’ve seen the creeping influence of Arab culture into the Pakistani way of life

complain about how Pakistani women are abandoning traditional Pakistani dress for the burqa, niqab and abaya

the assumption being that Arabisation is synonymous with Islamisation.

So far, so good. But fear not because:

But there has always been an Arab influence in this part of the world, through ancient trading ties and travel.

Indeed, what we see in Pakistani society is not true Arabisation; rather, it is our fantasy of what Arab culture looks and sounds like.

Our ‘adoption’ of certain easily imitated elements of Arab culture speaks not of true cultural colonisation, but instead of an observed, idealised Arabia that exists not in reality in the Gulf, the Levant, or the Maghreb, but in our own consciousness

And while we may dream of mimicking that culture, we must recognise we are actually changing it from its ‘pure’ form and assimilating it into our own Pakistani, and larger South Asian culture

We should not be so fearful of ‘losing’ our culture.

So, fear not bakis. Gradual arabization is only natural because it dwells in "our" subconscious mind and "our 5000 year heritage is used to absorbing newer influences". And people of this South Asian culture; why fight it?

Our 5000-year-old civilisation, which sprang from Buddhist and pre-Hindu traditions, and encompasses the great heritage of the Indus Valley, Taxila and Gandhara is strong enough to withstand and dilute the influences of other, younger cultures.

Author's name is Bina Shah.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 12 May 2014 08:28

anupmisra wrote:The love fest with everything Arabic continues. Note the subtle refenerce to South Asia and 5000 years of history.The past is us

Author's name is Bina Shah.

Would this be a case of "bina-shah kaale vipareeta buddhi" or do you think I am mistaken?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 12 May 2014 08:51

shiv wrote:
anupmisra wrote:The love fest with everything Arabic continues. Note the subtle refenerce to South Asia and 5000 years of history.The past is usAuthor's name is Bina Shah.
Would this be a case of "bina-shah kaale vipareeta buddhi" or do you think I am mistaken?

She is the same laid-ey who called Rajiv Malhotra to thanks him for South Asianity and he put her in right Mushplace.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 12 May 2014 09:40

ISI still desperate for sand samples of niclear test area in Pokhran - Economic Times

Sixteen years after India created history by becoming the sixth country to have tested nuclear bombs and joining the elite nuclear club on May 11, 1998, Pak intelligence agency, ISI, is making a lot of efforts to get a sample of the sand in Pokhran. The ISI even today, is reportedly trying to spy this area and get the sand samples of the area in Pokhran where the nuclear tests were conducted.

At the tail end of Pokaran field firing range, the spot where nuclear test was done, is under strict vigil and ISI has not been able to succeed in its efforts. The 3.5km long road is closely guarded and one has to pass four strictly guarded gates to get there. Even till today, the then director of United States' Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), George Tenent feels disappointed at not being able to get the hint of the nuclear test conducted by India in 1998.

According to an intelligence source, "ISI had launched its spies and agents whose objective was to take sand from this place. ISI wants to test the sand and analyze how the testing was done scientifically and technically. But due to the alertness of BSF jawans, their objective so far has not seen the light of the day."

Defence spokesperson SD Goswami said, "Guarding and protecting the defence land is the responsibility of the local military authority. As such, all defence land falls under restricted area zone where permission for civilian freedom of movement is strictly monitored and depends on case to case."

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 12 May 2014 09:41

Polio & Pakistan - Op Ed in DT

The world community must not forget the sacrifices of Pakistan in the war on terror and must play its role to lift the travel restrictions on Pakistani citizens. Today, polio is rife in Pakistan due to its full engagement in the war by being a close US ally and spending everything there. The travel bans on Pakistanis will further weaken Pakistan’s efforts to fight the crippling polio disease. This country should not be pushed to a state of isolation by disconnecting its citizens from the world. The travel restrictions on Pakistanis mean leaving Pakistan alone at a most difficult time when Islamabad is already struggling with terrorism, an energy crisis and threats to democracy. Polio is not a Pakistan-specific disease, the way the WHO has tried to portray it by punishing all Pakistanis. The presence of this virus anywhere is a threat to everywhere. This was the time of the world community to stand by Pakistan to tackle the polio virus, rather than leaving Islamabad alone.

It is always the fault of others and Pakistan is after all only a fall guy after having sacrificed everything for the sake of others. AoA.

sum · Post by **sum** » 12 May 2014 09:45

Today, polio is rife in Pakistan due to its full engagement in the war by being a close US ally and spending everything there

Loove the Pakis and their excuses

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 12 May 2014 09:58

From Tarek Fatah

dada · Post by **dada** » 12 May 2014 13:25

# Peregrine,

The Strategy of Pakistan versus India has 4 elements
1. Conceal ( Not a Secret anymore ! Thanks to pk military's domination of policy making apparatus its mindset is firmly institutionalised.
Even if the Politicians keep changing , the global variables remains in place )
2. Wait ( Timing. for the right opportunity . Make pk wait till the water crisis overwhelms it. Daming the Kabul/IWT Rivers is a good
beginning )
3. Attack by Surprise /Ambush ( How long can it sustain a full fledged war with India. Estimates vary from 2 weeks to 6 weeks)
4. Capture ( the water storing capacity /spaces of kashmir).

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 12 May 2014 15:07

SSridhar wrote:Polio & Pakistan - Op Ed in DT

More on the pakolio denial saga. Our debauched human condition

Syria alleges that polio has been exported to it by Pakistan along with militants carrying it and WHO thinks that might be true.

Pakistan hasn’t exported polio to Cameroon

Do we even realise how scary a place we appear to the world?

Pakistan seems to be on a train that has travelled beyond the zone of rationality.

They have a train that works?

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 12 May 2014 15:11

More pakolio-related chest beating. Polio vaccine choices.

we are in danger of re-infecting the planet.

Think of the thousands of Pakistanis that go to and from other countries, any one of them, or any ten of them, or any hundred of them, a possible carrier of the virus.

Polio is easily curable. Pakistaniyat ain't. Which one will the world want to tackle first?

hulaku · Post by **hulaku** » 12 May 2014 16:12

Gunmen kill Pakistan Navy official in Karachi

KARACHI: Unknown gunmen attacked a Pakistan Navy official near Karasaz area on Karachi's Shahrea Faisal on Monday, DawnNews reported.

Security and rescue teams reached the attack site situated on the port city's main artery.

The targeted Navy official was rushed to a hospital for treatment where he succumbed to his wounds during treatment.

Police sources said that the incident appeared to be sectarian motivated

http://www.dawn.com/news/1105811/gunmen ... in-karachi

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 12 May 2014 16:42

dada wrote:# Peregrine,

The Strategy of Pakistan versus India has 4 elements

Many thanks indeed.

Cheers

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 12 May 2014 17:46

http://www.dawn.com/news/1105811/gunmen-kill-pakistan-navy-man-in-karachi

Earlier this month, a security guard of the Pakistan Navy was shot dead by robbers in an attack on the car of a senior navy officer in Defence Phase II.

Another Pakistan navy officer was shot dead and his Swedish wife wounded in a similar attack in September last year.

Earlier on Feb 27, a lieutenant commander of the Pakistan Navy was wounded in an attack in Karachi’s Keamari area who later succumbed to his injuries.

In another incident on Feb 7 2013, a naval officer and his wife were injured in a mysterious explosion in their car near the city’s Karsaz area.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 12 May 2014 20:59

anupmisra wrote:More pakolio-related chest beating. Polio vaccine choices.

we are in danger of re-infecting the planet.
Think of the thousands of Pakistanis that go to and from other countries, any one of them, or any ten of them, or any hundred of them, a possible carrier of the virus.
Polio is easily curable. Pakistaniyat ain't. Which one will the world want to tackle first?

Nitpick.

Polio is incurable but preventable by vaccination and eradicable by vaccinating all susceptible populations
Pakistaniyat is incurable, but spread is preventable by sealing borders. It may be eradicable by dissolving Pakistan.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 12 May 2014 22:36

anupmisra wrote:More pakolio-related chest beating. Polio vaccine choices.

we are in danger of re-infecting the planet.
Think of the thousands of Pakistanis that go to and from other countries, any one of them, or any ten of them, or any hundred of them, a possible carrier of the virus.
Polio is easily curable. Pakistaniyat ain't. Which one will the world want to tackle first?

Remember how kufr yindoos offer prasad to millions of gods and goddesses? Now south Asian dissimilarity is that when pakis go to hajj pilgrimage in land of forefather Saudi, pakis are given polio drops! link

b) All travellers arriving from polio-endemic countries and re-established transmission countries, namely, Afghanistan, Chad, Nigeria and Pakistan regardless of age and vaccination status, should receive 1 dose of oral polio vaccine (OPV). Proof of polio vaccination at least 6 weeks prior to departure is required for visitors from polio-endemic and re-established transmission countries to apply for entry visa for Saudi Arabia and travellers will also receive 1 dose of OPV at borders points on arrival in Saudi Arabia...

The worst part is that polio drops are NOT FREE. The importance of NOT FREE should not be lost to anyone for polio endemic STFUPpies thread!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 12 May 2014 23:44

Maybe ISI has been tasked to make PNS merge into TSPA and is getting rid of reluctants.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 13 May 2014 00:04

With new case, Karachi's polio tally rises to 5

KARACHI: A new polio case surfaced in Karachi’s Gadap Town, taking this year’s tally for the city to five, Express News reported on Monday.

According to initial details, the 18-month-old has never been immunised.

Gadap Town is one of those areas where the refusal rate for polio vaccination is very high.

Interestingly, government officials had recently claimed the area was becoming polio-free.

To date 60 polio cases have been reported in Pakistan. This includes 46 cases from the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, nine from Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and five from Sindh.

Cheers

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 13 May 2014 00:07

shiv wrote:
Nitpick.

Polio is incurable but preventable by vaccination and eradicable by vaccinating all susceptible populations

Pakistaniyat is incurable, but spread is preventable by sealing borders. It may be eradicable by dissolving Pakistan.

Nah! Oral Pakistani Vaccine promising instant shahadat could do the trick

partha · Post by **partha** » 13 May 2014 01:13

http://tribune.com.pk/story/707489/sena ... ng-graves/

Senate votes in favour of awarding life terms for desecrating graves

^
Progress! Ahmedis can now bury their loved ones in peace.

“If any person without sanction of law authority digs up and in any way desecrates a grave, steals, damages, removes or in way physically violates a dead body which is in or stolen from a grave shall if found guilty of such an offence be liable to punishment of life imprisonment,” the bill read.

^
Oh wait, a loophole.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/423802/poli ... t-clashes/

FAISALABAD: A heavy police contingent on Friday, on the demand of a banned organisation, removed Quranic verses and religious texts written on tombstones of Ahmadi graves to save the area from clashes on religious grounds.

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 13 May 2014 02:58

shiv wrote: Nitpick.

Polio is incurable but preventable by vaccination and eradicable by vaccinating all susceptible populations
Pakistaniyat is incurable, but spread is preventable by sealing borders. It may be eradicable by dissolving Pakistan.

Shivji,

Nitpicking the nitpick ...

Polio is incurable but preventable by vaccination and eradicable by vaccinating all susceptible populations. (Agree)

Pakistaniyat is cureable - Need to address the Malsi problem elephant in the room.

Pakistaniyat is spread by indoctrination and inbreeding, which no vaccination can eradicate. Sealing of the borders is futile. Pakistaniyat is spread far and wide and it is found all over the world, especially in places like Londonistan, Al Barbaria etc. Only lobotomy or similar drastic surgical measures are needed for cure.

Cannot be eradicated by dissolving Pakistan - Tsk, tsk ... fundamental rule! - you can take a Paki away from Pakistan, but cannot take away the Pakistaniyat from a Paki.

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 13 May 2014 03:08

svenkat wrote:http://www.dawn.com/news/1105811/gunmen-kill-pakistan-navy-man-in-karachi

Earlier this month, a security guard of the Pakistan Navy was shot dead by robbers in an attack on the car of a senior navy officer in Defence Phase II.

Another Pakistan navy officer was shot dead and his Swedish wife wounded in a similar attack in September last year.

Earlier on Feb 27, a lieutenant commander of the Pakistan Navy was wounded in an attack in Karachi’s Keamari area who later succumbed to his injuries.

In another incident on Feb 7 2013, a naval officer and his wife were injured in a mysterious explosion in their car near the city’s Karsaz area.

Are you sure that it was robbers or STFUPISI goons eliminating their biraders of a rival arm (STFUPN)? Or was it the TTP taking revenge for the STFUPN submarine attacks in the FATA badlands?

(The Paki fascination for 2 & 7 to make 72 announcements continues ...

)

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 13 May 2014 03:23

partha wrote:
http://tribune.com.pk/story/423802/poli ... t-clashes/

FAISALABAD: A heavy police contingent on Friday, on the demand of a banned organisation, removed Quranic verses and religious texts written on tombstones of Ahmadi graves to save the area from clashes on religious grounds.

If any person without sanction of law authority digs up and in any way desecrates a grave, steals, damages, removes

Pliss to realize, it is authorities of the law that is doing the desecrating. The people of STFUPistan are peaceful (Malsi means peace). The removing of Quranic verses and religious texts written on tombstones of Ahmadi graves also absolves the perpetrators of more heinous charges of Blasphemy (punishable by DEATH), as Allah's words are not meant for whole of humanity in the Nazariya-i-Pakistan.

Rajagopal · Post by **Rajagopal** » 13 May 2014 05:03

This is the mother of all towels! Taller than Himalayas, Deeper than the pacific, sweeter than honey.

"I am ashamed of being a Pakistani today. I am ashamed that I belong to a country that kills human rights lawyers and sitting governors, and issues death threats to university professors. I am ashamed that we believe in spaghetti monster theories and pie in the sky conspiracies and risk the future of our children. I am ashamed that we have rejected our scientists just because they believe in a different dogma. I am ashamed that we cannot protect our women, we cannot protect our children and we cannot protect our men from the evil that is extremism, fundamentalism and the foolhardy idea that Pakistan is a great nation".

"Pakistan is a fledgling, flailing state"

"We share more with our Indian brothers than our ancestral DNA. Our food, language, clothes, lifestyles are more like them than the Arabs we so badly want to mimic and ape"

"I stare at the green passport with the same self-loathing as the fat 16-year-old girl with pimples on her face who is told that she cannot get married because she will always be blind, diseased and fat and her elder, stronger, prettier, better-educated sister will snag all the good catches because she ended up with the better caretaker after the divorce of their parents."

more details: http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/22231 ... pakistani/

The author is a brave and a beautiful woman. I request my Yindoo brothers to comment in support of the author.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 13 May 2014 06:10

In fact for many years I did believe that Jinnah had made a mistake. I no longer believe that.

It may well have been a subconscious instinct to protect the mother civilisation. A whiskey drinking, pork eating, third class momeen, Khwaja Muslim may well have been deeply conflicted about India's future with the burden of India's past. He would have been intimate with Gandhi's deep orthodox ethics and Nehru's heterodox cosmopolitanism, finding no place for Muslim India within this continuum.

He never sold his Bombay residence, perhaps because he did know which side of the border was really home. Likely not with the buffalo herders of West Panjab.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 13 May 2014 06:18

sanjaykumar wrote:In fact for many years I did believe that Jinnah had made a mistake. I no longer believe that.

It may well have been a subconscious instinct to protect the mother civilisation. A whiskey drinking, pork eating, third class momeen, Khwaja Muslim may well have been deeply conflicted about India's future with the burden of India's past. He would have been intimate with Gandhi's deep orthodox ethics and Nehru's heterodox cosmopolitanism, finding no place for Muslim India within this continuum.

He never sold his Bombay residence, perhaps because he did know which side of the border was really home. Likely not with the buffalo herders of West Panjab.

So which part of Jinnah's 'subconscious instinct' for his 'mother civilization' was at work when he offered his legal services to defend carpenter-turned-ghazi Ilm-ud-deen who murdered a Hindu Lahori publisher for blasphemy?

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 13 May 2014 06:27

It was meant as satire.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 13 May 2014 06:36

sanjaykumar wrote:It was meant as satire.

Slow day here...tubelights not in good working order...

joygoswami · Post by **joygoswami** » 13 May 2014 08:21

RCase wrote:
svenkat wrote:http://www.dawn.com/news/1105811/gunmen-kill-pakistan-navy-man-in-karachi
Another Pakistan navy officer was shot dead and his Swedish wife wounded in a similar attack in September last year.

Bexpress Tribune says he was an Officer !!?? So why were trying to hide his raank, eh ?

Klick Heare

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 13 May 2014 09:16

Thanks for holding your ire, sire, it was only satire.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 13 May 2014 09:21

Anujan wrote:Another article quotes Faranaz Ispahani (Husain Haqqani's wife) that Modi's win will be bad for the region because he is likely to retaliate strongly to things like Mumbai attacks, because he is anti-muslim!!

No matter how smart, educated and intelligent you are, pakiness slips through.

Hindus defending themselves from getting slaughtered is anti-Muslim. After all, the natural nature of a Hindu is to get killed, enslaved, mutilated and worse, whereas its the Muslim/Pakistani's right to do all these and more. Modi protecting Hindus is definitely anti Muslim and anti Pakistani.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 13 May 2014 09:23

SSridhar wrote:ISI still desperate for sand samples of niclear test area in Pokhran - Economic Times
Sixteen years after India created history by becoming the sixth country to have tested nuclear bombs and joining the elite nuclear club on May 11, 1998, Pak intelligence agency, ISI, is making a lot of efforts to get a sample of the sand in Pokhran. The ISI even today, is reportedly trying to spy this area and get the sand samples of the area in Pokhran where the nuclear tests were conducted.

At the tail end of Pokaran field firing range, the spot where nuclear test was done, is under strict vigil and ISI has not been able to succeed in its efforts. The 3.5km long road is closely guarded and one has to pass four strictly guarded gates to get there. Even till today, the then director of United States' Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), George Tenent feels disappointed at not being able to get the hint of the nuclear test conducted by India in 1998.

According to an intelligence source, "ISI had launched its spies and agents whose objective was to take sand from this place. ISI wants to test the sand and analyze how the testing was done scientifically and technically. But due to the alertness of BSF jawans, their objective so far has not seen the light of the day."

Defence spokesperson SD Goswami said, "Guarding and protecting the defence land is the responsibility of the local military authority. As such, all defence land falls under restricted area zone where permission for civilian freedom of movement is strictly monitored and depends on case to case."

Clearly shows they have no firm knowledge about the capabilities of Indian deterrence and need confirmation.