Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 14 May 2014 19:03

nageshks wrote:
Sanku wrote: If Anantha Kumar defeats NN, it would be exceptionally amazing to claim he has done nothing.
I don't understand this hatred for Anant Kumar here. What did he do? Play politics inside BJP? Heck, even Yediyurappa did more of that (including throwing chairs at party MLAs disagreeing with him)! Anant was guarding his turf, and he played vicious politics in that regard.

If Anantha Kumar wins, it will be due to the Modi effect and not entirely on his own strength. Are we justifying working against party interest here? If AK did nothing wrong by opposing Namo for PM, then so did SS or Advani.

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 14 May 2014 19:05

Ramana and Others +1 on Sadhvi Prgya case. I have followed and gone thru thecase all the way. It was/is complete eyewash designed to create Hindu Terror label.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 14 May 2014 19:06

Jarita wrote:Maneka for the Environment Ministry

That one is a key post. Maneka and her son both are psychos. Every midnight loud cries of 3 dozen dogs remind me of Maneka. Instead of solving problem she will create new more complex ones. She is an extremist in her action.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 14 May 2014 19:08

Sushma is a trouble. She has been pampered by Sonia with a view to encourage her ambition there by stopping Modi. Ambition is not wrong but taking enemy's help to fight internal battle is wrong,wrong,wrong. She also suspected to have a deal on Telangana

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 14 May 2014 19:09

Estimated Congress vote share in 2014 is 22%. Who are the other 78%
Hint: Majority religion of the nation

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 14 May 2014 19:09

abhijitm wrote:
Jarita wrote:Maneka for the Environment Ministry
That one is a key post. Maneka and her son both are psychos. Every midnight loud cries of 3 dozen dogs remind me of Maneka. Instead of solving problem she will create new more complex ones. She is an extremist in her action.

Agree. She is too much of an extremist or ideologue and too independent

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 14 May 2014 19:09

Plz no IFS as NSA!

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 14 May 2014 19:11

The big business types in this proposed regime are bigger extremists who will create long term sustainability problems for the nation.
Short term view of an India with roads and Infrastructure at the expense of our forests, water, mountains and way of life is not desirable.
We need Maneka and we need an empowered Maneka who can say no especially in face of the mercantile invasion.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 14 May 2014 19:12

^^
I will take a bet that most people being talked about negatively here will be given fair amount of respect and position in the govt.

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 14 May 2014 19:14

abhijitm wrote:
Jarita wrote:Maneka for the Environment Ministry
That one is a key post. Maneka and her son both are psychos. Every midnight loud cries of 3 dozen dogs remind me of Maneka. Instead of solving problem she will create new more complex ones. She is an extremist in her action.

hahahaha

vina · Post by **vina** » 14 May 2014 19:16

vivek.rao wrote:
Agree. She is too much of an extremist or ideologue and too independent

Oh the irony of it. All that ranting and raving and dharmic this and that , which frankly reeks of counting chickens before they are hatched, mind you there might be a slip between the cup and the lip, is sweet reasonableness and objective, but Maneka's activism for the environment and animal rights is of course extremism and ideology!

Touché.

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 14 May 2014 19:20

I am getting very nervous. Guys could you all discuss exit polls instead of ministries and next Govt. Thanks

sunnyP · Post by **sunnyP** » 14 May 2014 19:21

Sushma Swaraj - Indian Ambassador to Iceland. Or if she wants somewhere warmer then send her to Sierra Leone or some other lovely African nation.

SRoy · Post by **SRoy** » 14 May 2014 19:23

Sanku wrote:^^
I will take a bet that most people being talked about negatively here will be given fair amount of respect and position in the govt.

Sure. Why not.
We will have 2004 redux in 2019.
Respect my foot.
If any of these idiots are handed anything of importance I'll in person apologize to the people that I hoodwinked into voting for BJP in this election.

member_28025 · Post by **member_28025** » 14 May 2014 19:24

Anantha wrote:I am getting very nervous. Guys could you all discuss exit polls instead of ministries and next Govt. Thanks

Talking of ministeries and next govt. stops dhoti shivering.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 14 May 2014 19:24

Who is the bald (relatively) young spokes person who represented BJP in Varnasi debates on NDTV?

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 14 May 2014 19:25

IBTL polls (not sure if it is exit, but they are tweeting now).

IBTL ‏@IndiaBTL 28m

#IBTLPoll Bihar BJP 24 (+12) LJP 3 (+3) RLSP 1 (+1) JDU 2 (-18) RJD 9 (+5) Congress 1 (-1) .

IBTL ‏@IndiaBTL 22m

#IBTLPoll BJP 11 (+3) Congress 1 (0) JVM 1 (0) JMM 1 (-1) Orissa BJD 10 (-4) BJP 8 (+8) Congress 3 (-3) .

IBTL ‏@IndiaBTL 20m

#IBTLPoll West Bengal TMC 23 (+4) Left Front 11 (-4) Congress 4 (-2) BJP 4 (+3) Assam BJP 6 (+2) Congress 6 (-1) Others 2 (-1) .

IBTL ‏@IndiaBTL 14m

#IBTLPoll North Eastern States BJP 2 (+2) Congress 4 (-2) Left Front 2 0) NPP 1 (+1) NPF 1 (0) Others 1 (-1) .

IBTL ‏@IndiaBTL 10m

#IBTLPoll East India BJP+ 62 Congress+ 29 Others 50 .

IBTL ‏@IndiaBTL 22m

#IBTLPoll Delhi BJP 7 (+7) Congress 0 (-7) AAP 0 (0)

Punjab BJP 2 (+1) SAD 4 (0) Congress 4 (-4) AAP 3 (+3) .

IBTL ‏@IndiaBTL 20m

#IBTLPoll Haryana BJP 5 (+5) HJC 1 (0) INLD 2 (+2) Congress 2 (-7)

Himachal Pradesh BJP 2 (-1) Congress 2 (+1) .

#IBTLPoll Uttarakhand BJP 4 (+4) Congress 1 (-4)

Jammu & Kashmir BJP 3 (+3) PDP 2 (+2) NC 1 (-2) Congress 0 (-2) Others 0 (-1) .

IBTL ‏@IndiaBTL 9m

#IBTLPoll Uttar Pradesh The Big One BSP 8(-12) SP 9 (-14) Congress 4 (-17) BJP 59 (+49) BJP heading towards a historic tally in UP-Bihar .

IBTL ‏@IndiaBTL 1m

#IBTLPoll North India BJP+ 87 Congress+ 14 Others 24 .

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 14 May 2014 19:26

Amit Shah

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 14 May 2014 19:27

SRoy wrote:Respect my foot.
If any of these idiots are handed anything of importance I'll in person apologize to the people that I hoodwinked into voting for BJP in this election.

+ a million.

If any BJP influential lurker reading this, take this as a warning. No repeat of 1999. I don't want to see those faces again. Do that and l will ensure you will lose at least 15 votes next election. I am damn serious.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 14 May 2014 19:30

#IBTLPoll North India

BJP+ 87
Congress+ 14
Others 24 .

#IBTLPoll Uttar Pradesh The Big One

BSP 8(-12)
SP 9 (-14)
Congress 4 (-17)
BJP 59 (+49)

BJP heading towards a historic tally in UP-Bihar .

#IBTLPoll Uttarakhand

BJP 4 (+4)
Congress 1 (-4)

Jammu & Kashmir
BJP 3 (+3)
PDP 2 (+2)
NC 1 (-2)
Congress 0 (-2)
Others 0 (-1) .

#IBTLPoll Haryana

BJP 5 (+5)
HJC 1 (0)
INLD 2 (+2)
Congress 2 (-7)

Himachal Pradesh
BJP 2 (-1)
Congress 2 (+1) .

#IBTLPoll Delhi

BJP 7 (+7)
Congress 0 (-7)
AAP 0 (0)

Punjab
BJP 2 (+1)
SAD 4 (0)
Congress 4 (-4)
AAP 3 (+3) .

#IBTLPoll East India
BJP+ 62
Congress+ 29
Others 50 .

#IBTLPoll North Eastern States
BJP 2 (+2)
Congress 4 (-2)
Left Front 2 0)
NPP 1 (+1)
NPF 1 (0)
Others 1 (-1) .

#IBTLPoll West Bengal
TMC 23 (+4)
Left Front 11 (-4)
Congress 4 (-2)
BJP 4 (+3)

Assam
BJP 6 (+2)
Congress 6 (-1)
Others 2 (-1) .

#IBTLPoll Jharkhand

BJP 11 (+3)
Congress 1 (0)
JVM 1 (0)
JMM 1 (-1)

Orissa
BJD 10 (-4)
BJP 8 (+8)
Congress 3 (-3) .

#IBTLPoll Bihar

BJP 24 (+12)
LJP 3 (+3)
RLSP 1 (+1)
JDU 2 (-18)
RJD 9 (+5)
Congress 1 (-1) .

#IBTLPoll South India

BJP+ 46
Congress+ 27
Others 49 .

#IBTLPoll Tamil Nadu

BJP 3 (+3)
PMK 3(+3)
MDMK 2(+1)
DMK 7 (-11)
AIADMK 24 (+15)
Congress 0 (-8)

Pondicherry
NRC 1 (+1) .

#IBTLPoll Kerala

Congress 9 (-4)
IUML 2 (0)
KCM 1 (0)
Left Front 8 (+4)
Massive consolidation of Secular forces prevents BJP in backwaters.

#IBTLPoll Karnataka
BJP 17 (-2)
Congress 9 (+3)
JDS 2 (-1)

JDS wins Hasan and Chikkaballapur .

#IBTLPoll Seemandhra

BJP 2 (+2)
TDP 14 (+10)
YSRC 9 (+9)

Telangana
BJP 3 (+3)
TDP 1 (-2)
TRS 6 (+5)
MIM 1 (0)
Congress 6 (-7) .

#IBTLPoll West India
BJP+ 121
Congress + 20
Others 2

#IBTLPoll Chhattisgarh
BJP 9 (-1)
Congress 2 (+1)

Goa and UTs
BJP 4 (+1)
Congress 0 (-1) .

#IBTLPoll Rajasthan

BJP 23 (+19)
Congress 2 (-18)

Madhya Pradesh
BJP 27 (+11)
Congress 2 (-10) .

#IBTLPoll Gujarat

BJP 23 (+8)
Congress 3 (-3) .

#IBTLPoll Maharashtra

Congress 5 (-12)
NCP 6 (-2)
BJP 19 (+10)
Shiv Sena 14 (+2)
MYT 2
MNS 1
Others 1
NDA 35, UPA 11 .

Raja · Post by **Raja** » 14 May 2014 19:31

I don't care who/what/when as long as NAMO is able to deliver on economic growth, national security, and last but not least, Hindu security. I am not going to sit here and armchair criticize him from day 1.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 14 May 2014 19:32

#IBTLPoll gives Congress 70 seats in all of India!

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 14 May 2014 19:33

SRoy wrote:
Sanku wrote:^^
I will take a bet that most people being talked about negatively here will be given fair amount of respect and position in the govt.
Sure. Why not.
We will have 2004 redux in 2019.
Respect my foot.
If any of these idiots are handed anything of importance I'll in person apologize to the people that I hoodwinked into voting for BJP in this election.

The old adage holds true here. Keep you friends close, but your enemies closer. All the people who are being talked about negatively will get posts, lets hope they are not important. The big challenges in the short run I feal are Home, Economy and Defence. As long as they don't' come evenly remotely closer to any of these,we should be fine.

-M

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 14 May 2014 19:35

Madhu Kishwar says rumors have started, and Muslims have been told to be alert for riots,means riots are planned by congis post 16th. Hyderabad already has had a Sikh killing this morning in a riots (of course not covered by MSM)

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 14 May 2014 19:37

Today's Chankya tweet

Telangana

Assembly
VP: TRS - 42% CON - 25% TDP+BJP - 19% Others - 14%
Seats: TRS - 71(+/- 9) CON -23 (+/- 7) TDP+BJP 15 (+/- 5) Others 10 (+/- 3)

Parliament
TRS: 9 (+/- 2), CON - 4 (+/- 2) BJP+TDP 3 (+/- 2)

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 14 May 2014 19:38

#IBTLPoll gives AAP 3 seats in all of India, all coming from Punjab!

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 14 May 2014 19:40

The dirty tricks of congies are predictable. You can rest assured that the communal community is well aware of the predilections of the secular ones. They will be adequately prepared, for any conflagration.

The secular crowd can at this time try to be tactically brilliant like they were during muzaffnagar. But they will not gain any real lasting advantage. Not with Modi as the PM of the nation.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 14 May 2014 19:40

IBTL predicting outcomes in high profile seats

IBTL @IndiaBTL · 3h

High Profile Seats in South Malkajgiri - Congress Tirupati - BJP Bangalore South - BJP Trivandrum - Congress Chennai South - ADMK

High profile Seats in East Patliputra - BJP Chhapra - RJD Nalanda - JDU Madhepura - BJP Howrah - CPM Asansol - BJP Dumka - JMM

High Profile Seats in North Amritsar - BJP New Delhi - BJP Baghpat - BJP Ghaziabad - BJP Amethi - Congress Azamgarh - BJP

High Profile Seats in West Nanded - BJP Mumbai NE - BJP Baramati - NCP Gandhinagar - BJP Badmer - BJP Jaipur Rural - BJP

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 14 May 2014 19:41

merlin wrote:How is NDA going to get laws passed in the Rajya Sabha when then won't have majority there for a long time? Is there any provision for laws to be only passed in the Lok Sabha and even if it does not pass in the Rajya Sabha, send it to the President anyway?

only for money bills LS power is supreme. on everything else they are equal. in case of impasse joint sessions can be held.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 14 May 2014 19:42

abhijitm wrote:
SRoy wrote:Respect my foot.
If any of these idiots are handed anything of importance I'll in person apologize to the people that I hoodwinked into voting for BJP in this election.
+ a million.

If any BJP influential lurker reading this, take this as a warning. No repeat of 1999. I don't want to see those faces again. Do that and l will ensure you will lose at least 15 votes next election. I am damn serious.

Well I have made a bet, and we will see soon enough. (btw, Sushma S was on tv just now looking very happy after her meeting with other top brass)

Meanwhile, since I am making predictions, let me say this, no scapegoats and excuses will be needed in 2019.

Meanwhile people are well advised to do analysis of reality of India and why BJP lost 2004/9 rather than tilt at windmills.

Tamang · Post by **Tamang** » 14 May 2014 19:42

RamaY wrote:Who is the bald (relatively) young spokes person who represented BJP in Varnasi debates on NDTV?

Nalin Kohli

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 14 May 2014 19:44

RSS confirms no poll was released by RSS. media has it that RSS gave ~240 seats to NDA

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 14 May 2014 19:44

340 for NDA as predicted by Chanakya will be good to beat out RS handicap

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 14 May 2014 19:45

Anantha wrote:RSS confirms no poll was released by RSS. media has it that RSS gave ~240 seats to NDA

I knew it. Sheila Bhat was bluffing

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 14 May 2014 19:45

NDTV poll looking ominous, YSRC getting 12 in LS and capturing power in Seemandhra with upto 100 assembly seats, that will be a disaster

Has south India faailed India this time, kerala, AP voting INC TRS and YSRC

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 14 May 2014 19:46

Tamang wrote:
RamaY wrote:Who is the bald (relatively) young spokes person who represented BJP in Varnasi debates on NDTV?
Nalin Kohli

Thx. He should be part of Modi team.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 14 May 2014 19:49

Aditya_V wrote:NDTV poll looking ominous, YSRC getting 12 in LS and capturing power in Seemandhra with upto 100 assembly seats, that will be a disaster

Has south India faailed India this time, kerala, AP voting INC TRS and YSRC

Didn't Jagan invest in NDTV?

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 14 May 2014 19:50

Watching NDTV to know dynasty approved exit poll numbers. NaMo will lose onlee.

SRoy · Post by **SRoy** » 14 May 2014 19:51

what r NDTV numbers BTW?

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 14 May 2014 19:51

yaar, abhi result aana baaki hai. Lets wait. Congress waale itne bade moorkh nahi hai. They may have something up their sleeves. We may see BJP in UP at 35 and in Bihar at 15. So some salami slicing here and there may bring them down below 200. Lets not jump now.