General Elections 2014 : RESULTS thread

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 19 May 2014 00:30

India TV is the future channel for right wingers

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 19 May 2014 01:00

David B. Cohen ‏@DavidBCohen1 3m
Modi's win was a rejection not only of the dynasty but of the colonial Brits, who tried to teach Hindus to be ashamed of their culture.

A trickle of Foreign journo's and leaders have started understanding the view points of the Dharmics makes solid sense. Slowly but surely the numbers will only rise. With Modi's arrival the Dharmic perspective will gain traction in India and then worldwide.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 19 May 2014 01:30

harbans wrote:
David B. Cohen ‏@DavidBCohen1 3m
Modi's win was a rejection not only of the dynasty but of the colonial Brits, who tried to teach Hindus to be ashamed of their culture.
A trickle of Foreign journo's and leaders have started understanding the view points of the Dharmics makes solid sense. Slowly but surely the numbers will only rise. With Modi's arrival the Dharmic perspective will gain traction in India and then worldwide.

We need to be control of the whole narrative!

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 19 May 2014 01:35

amma is cleverer than didi to seek support for governance share to empower state managements! but all said and done, what is she going to do for the corruption? i doubt she can participate well there... she might as her amassment guarantees few of her generations, but her setup below will find hard time giving up free kala money.

"Selvi (Ms) J Jayalalithaa, wished him a very successful tenure as Prime Minister of India. The Hon'ble Prime Minister– designate assured the Hon'ble Chief Minister that there will be absolute co-operation between the Government of India and the Government of Tamil Nadu," a state government release here said.

Modi's assurance came in the wake of the AIADMK chief saying in her letter that she looked forward to a meaningful era of Centre-state cooperation with the BJP leader at the helm of affairs.

The release said Modi also congratulated Jayalalithaa for her party's 'remarkable victory' where she notched up 37 of the 39 seats in the state.
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/407 ... ation.html

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 19 May 2014 02:35

Ramana wrote: On a side note, today one *** has come out categorically against the idea of supporting AAP in Delhi. Congress is headed for a split towards Dec 2014 and splinter group will merge with BJP led by state units..

Aaah! We gamed this...

Congress has three scenarios
1/ Family leaves the country to avoid arrests/jail while holding good control over party. In this case there is a possibility for family to come back after 10yrs with fresh face.

2/ Family stays in the country and also holds control over party. Will go thru penance and revitalize over time.

3/ family moves out of country and the party splinters. Wherever InC is power or strong, the CM will become/form a regional party. Otherwise merge into existing opposition party, BJP or other depending on state. AP's YSRCP is example of first type splinter.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 19 May 2014 02:37

The interesting observation is AAP neither hurt Congress nor BJP. It is simply a non-player in this elections.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 19 May 2014 02:41

'मइया दो आदेश प्रियंका बढ़ाएं कांग्रेस। यूपी में अग्निपथ..अग्निपथ आ जाओ प्रियंका छा जाओ प्रियंका..।

Mother please order Priyanka to lead congress now, there is fire raging in UP, pls come Priyanka lead Priyanka

http://www.jagran.com/news/national-hor ... tml?src=p1

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 19 May 2014 02:43

Punjab is BJP-SAD bastion slipping away, they must do something about it. If AAP takes over, it will foment Khalistan sentiments. And Punjab is quite rich, funds will flow + border state

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 19 May 2014 03:10

RamaY wrote:
Ramana wrote: On a side note, today one *** has come out categorically against the idea of supporting AAP in Delhi. Congress is headed for a split towards Dec 2014 and splinter group will merge with BJP led by state units..
Aaah! We gamed this...

Congress has three scenarios
1/ Family leaves the country to avoid arrests/jail while holding good control over party. In this case there is a possibility for family to come back after 10yrs with fresh face.

2/ Family stays in the country and also holds control over party. Will go thru penance and revitalize over time.

3/ family moves out of country and the party splinters. Wherever InC is power or strong, the CM will become/form a regional party. Otherwise merge into existing opposition party, BJP or other depending on state. AP's YSRCP is example of first type splinter.

the Twitter is abuzz with 3 of the 9 YSRC MPs are joining BJP.

Congress splitting will not wait until December. We may not see 2015 with Sonia and Rahul in the scene. The RS parties will split like as though there is no tomorrow. Enjoy the show folks. The entire so called pseudo-sec-factory is unravelling.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 19 May 2014 03:11

WTF, Times house needs to be neutralized

The fact that the BJP has won a majority on its own in the 16th Lok Sabha has, inevitably, drawn comparisons with previous elections in which parties have won a majority of seats on their own. What has not quite figured in most of these comparisons is the fact that no party has ever before won more than half the seats with a vote share of just 31%. Indeed, the previous lowest vote share for a single-party majority was in 1967, when the Congress won 283 out of 520 seats with 40.8% of the total valid votes polled.

This statistical fact points to an important aspect of the latest 'wave'. Far from spelling the end of a fractured polity, the 2014 results show just how fragmented the vote is. It is precisely because the vote is so fragmented that the BJP was able to win 282 seats with just 31% of the votes.

Simply put, less than four out of every 10 votes opted for NDA candidates and not even one in three chose somebody from the BJP to represent them. Those who picked the Congress or its allies were even fewer, less than one in five for the Congress with a 19.3% vote share (which incidentally is higher than the BJP's 18.5% in 2009) and less than one in every four for the UPA. Unfortunately for the Congress, its 19.3% votes only translated into 44 seats while BJP's 18.5% had fetched it 116 seats.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 315930.cms

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 19 May 2014 03:21

Don't die laughing

and keep away from keyboard if you are drinking something

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And do your dharmic duty and spread the humor far and wide.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 19 May 2014 03:21

Muppalla wrote:the Twitter is abuzz with 3 of the 9 YSRC MPs are joining BJP. Congress splitting will not wait until December. We may not see 2015 with Sonia and Rahul in the scene. The RS parties will split like as though there is no tomorrow. Enjoy the show folks. The entire so called pseudo-sec-factory is unravelling.

Unless 6 out of 9 decide to merge with BJP, they would invite provisions of the Anti-Defection Law, or they would have to resign from their hard-won seats and contest again under the BJP banner.

Same case with Congress. Congress's mandate is fragmented - a few seats from every state. There is no one who can lead 30 out of 44 Congressmen out of Congress for a successful split.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 19 May 2014 03:28

RajeshA wrote: Unless 6 out of 9 decide to merge with BJP, they would invite provisions of the Anti-Defection Law, or they would have to resign from their hard-won seats and contest again under the BJP banner.

Same case with Congress. Congress's mandate is fragmented - a few seats from every state. There is no one who can lead 30 out of 44 Congressmen out of Congress for a successful split.

That's is the prerogative of speaker. In addition, the anti-defection law applies only to recognized state/national parties. Not for those that just registered parties. Any number of them can be traded in bazaar.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 19 May 2014 03:30

psy op from India today

Poll data shows large number of Muslims voted for Modi
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/delh ... 62351.html

The skepticism about the Muslim community's reservations about voting for the BJP and its prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi was laid to rest on Friday when the party went on win all the seven Lok Sabha constituencies of Delhi.

Data released by the office of the Delhi chief electoral officer have indicated a reversal in the Muslim community's support for the Aam Aadmi Party in the National Capital.

In the Chandni Chowk parliamentary constituency, BJP candidate Harsh Vardhan trounced his AAP rival Ashutosh in Sadar Bazar by 17,623 votes. Likewise, in Ballimaran and Chandni Chowk too, the BJP candidate enjoyed a much larger vote share than Ashutosh.

"There is no such thing that any community will be sidelined or marginalised if BJP is in power. We do not believe in such politics," Harsh Vardhan said.

While many spoke about Kapil Sibal continuing to enjoy the minority community's faith, the poll results told a different tale. The two-time Congress MP, who had won by a margin of over 2 lakh votes last time, ended up at the third spot in Chandni Chowk.

If the comments from clerics and members of the community are anything to go by, then the Muslims have decided not to repose any faith in the Congress simply because they had been taken for granted for the last 10 years. Not only did the community lost faith in the Congress, but it also turned away from the AAP. The antics in the Delhi Assembly had clearly spelt disaster for the Arvind Kejriwal-led party.

While AAP candidates had banked heavily on a secure Muslim vote bank in Delhi, this reversal in trend across all seven parliamentary constituencies in the Capital is emblematic of the fact that the community have moved beyond the past references to Modi's alleged involvement in the Godhra riots. It also shows that the minority community is ready to give the BJP a chance at governance too.

In North-East Delhi constituency, which has a sizeable Muslim population in Babarpur and Mustafabad Assembly constituencies, BJP candidate Manoj Tiwari, who was initially relying upon a huge vote bank from the Purvanchali population, now enjoys the vote of the Muslim populace as well.

Moreover, a large section of the Muslim population came out in celebration of the BJP's victory on Friday, stating that they felt no fear in voting for the party.

In West Delhi, where Parvesh Singh Verma won by the largest margin, the BJP candidate polled 1.11 lakh votes from Matiala and 80,529 votes from Najafgarh while AAP's Jarnail Singh polled merely 57,492 and 30,850 votes respectively from these areas. The two areas have a large Muslim population.

"I was confident of getting the highest margin in the city. The people of all communities have gone all out to extend their support to the party and all this talk about Muslims being sidelined is rubbish. Every community is equal for us and we believe in working equally hard for all of them," Parvesh said.

Results show support for saffron in 45 of 87 Muslim strongholds

The BJP has won more than half the 87 Lok Sabha seats across the country with a high percentage of Muslim voters, with most of the gains concentrated in the politically crucial states of Uttar Pradesh and Maharashtra.

However, the new Lok Sabha will have the fewest Muslim parliamentarians since the one elected in 1952, with just 21 of them emerging victorious in the polls. The BJP itself does not have a single MP from the minority community.

The BJP won 45 of the 87 Lok Sabha seats identified by the Centre for the Study of Developing Societies (CSDS) as having a high concentration of Muslim voters. In Uttar Pradesh alone, the party won all but one of the 27 seats with a sizeable Muslim electorate.

Prominent among the winners in Uttar Pradesh was BJP president Rajnath Singh, who bagged the Lucknow seat that has some four lakh Muslim voters, including numerous Shias.

Significantly, the BJP bagged three seats in Assam with a large number of Muslim voters - Gauhati, Mangaldoi and Kaliabor. It also won the Chandni Chowk and North-East Delhi constituencies in the national Capital, both of which have a large Muslim electorate.

Of the 102 constituencies where at least one in five voters is a Muslim, the BJP won 47 seats.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 19 May 2014 03:31

Muppalla wrote:
RajeshA wrote: Unless 6 out of 9 decide to merge with BJP, they would invite provisions of the Anti-Defection Law, or they would have to resign from their hard-won seats and contest again under the BJP banner.

Same case with Congress. Congress's mandate is fragmented - a few seats from every state. There is no one who can lead 30 out of 44 Congressmen out of Congress for a successful split.
That's is the prerogative of speaker. In addition, the anti-defection law applies only to recognized state/national parties. Not for those that just registered parties. Any number of them can be traded in bazaar.

Any idea which 3 are defecting Muppalla-ji? And is it only SA MPs or does it also include the YCP MP from Telangana (Khammam)?

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 19 May 2014 03:36

RajeshA wrote: Unless 6 out of 9 decide to merge with BJP, they would invite provisions of the Anti-Defection Law, or they would have to resign from their hard-won seats and contest again under the BJP banner.

Same case with Congress. Congress's mandate is fragmented - a few seats from every state. There is no one who can lead 30 out of 44 Congressmen out of Congress for a successful split.

~~I believe its ok if 1/3 of the members defect. Anything less would be illegal under the anti defection law.~~

I stand corrected. Its 2/3 of elected members.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 19 May 2014 03:37

I don't know Nagesh ji. It is only on Twitter but I expected it anyway. Too much of inescapable evidence is there on Jagan and Co. The party consists of those who are there due to majhburi and/or due to blackmail. Very few are really there with loyalty. it is all a bought out loyalty. It will unravel too fast.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 19 May 2014 03:39

AP experts, please help me make sense of this verdict.

Results of Khammam

PONGULETI SRINIVASA REDDY Yuvajana Sramika Rythu Congress Party 421957
NAMA NAGESWARA RAO Telugu Desam 409983
KANKANALA NARAYANA Communist Party of India 187653
BUDAN BAIG SHAIK Telangana Rashtra Samithi 89063

I thought that the YCP had burnt its bridges in Telangana, and yet, here is this YCP character winning Khammam, that is supposed to be a Kamma stronghold. Can someone figure out what happened here? And I see that the Con. party has not even contested here. Were they in alliance with the CPI in Telangana?

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 19 May 2014 04:00

Muppalla wrote:I don't know Nagesh ji. It is only on Twitter but I expected it anyway. Too much of inescapable evidence is there on Jagan and Co. The party consists of those who are there due to majhburi and/or due to blackmail. Very few are really there with loyalty. it is all a bought out loyalty. It will unravel too fast.

Many YSRCP candidates spend thru their elections, their own money or others.

When Modi expedites the corruption cases across nation, I have a feeling YSRCP head will be taken out.
What needs to be seen is if the family tries to maintain some political presence even without the head or it will give up the fight leading the rest of the gang go find new homes.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 19 May 2014 04:03

http://zeenews.india.com/news/general-e ... 32987.html

Narendra Modi to resign as Gujarat CM on May 21, Anandiben's name finalised: Report

Gandhinagar: BJP's PM-designate Narendra Modi is expected to resign as the Chief Minister of Gujarat on May 21 - a day after he will be formally elected as the new leader by the party's parliamentary board to lead the NDA government.

Reports on Sunday said that the state BJP leaders have arrived at a consensus on senior minister Anandiben Patel's name to be the new Chief Minister of Gujarat.

On May 20, the BJP MLAs will formally elect Patel as their leader in the presence of Thawarchand Gehlot, BJP general secretary, who has been appointed as the observer to monitor the entire process by the party high command.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 19 May 2014 04:03

VikramS wrote: One guy on Twitter is now saying that Muslims must demand proportionate representation since they no longer feel secure.

Tell him Muslims are the safest in India, than in a Islamist country.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 19 May 2014 04:10

SwamyG wrote:
VikramS wrote: One guy on Twitter is now saying that Muslims must demand proportionate representation since they no longer feel secure.
Tell him Muslims are the safest in India, than in a Islamist country.

Or give him the FACT that Pakistan and Bangladesh are just that. They have 600+ MPs between BD/PK

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 19 May 2014 04:43

ShyamSP wrote: I'd give a lot of credit to Baba Ramdev. Although he went beyond his limits as Sanyasi into political matters and acted at times as politician.

Isn't that what Chaanakya did thousands of years ago?

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 19 May 2014 04:45

nageshks wrote:AP experts, please help me make sense of this verdict.

Results of Khammam

PONGULETI SRINIVASA REDDY Yuvajana Sramika Rythu Congress Party 421957
NAMA NAGESWARA RAO Telugu Desam 409983
KANKANALA NARAYANA Communist Party of India 187653
BUDAN BAIG SHAIK Telangana Rashtra Samithi 89063

I thought that the YCP had burnt its bridges in Telangana, and yet, here is this YCP character winning Khammam, that is supposed to be a Kamma stronghold. Can someone figure out what happened here? And I see that the Con. party has not even contested here. Were they in alliance with the CPI in Telangana?

khammam is as good as coastal district in terms of fit inside Nizam-Telangana. So its configurations are still very different.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 19 May 2014 04:48

ShyamSP wrote: I'd give a lot of credit to Baba Ramdev. Although he went beyond his limits as Sanyasi into political matters and acted at times as politician.

+1008.

Kakkaji wrote: Isn't that what Chaanakya did thousands of years ago?

He irritated sometimes but he was instrumental is a lot of ways.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 19 May 2014 04:51

Folks,
I just did a basic review of the performance of the AAP in the Punjab seats, and maybe someone with specific knowledge of Punjab can help me understand this verdict (Munna-ji, I am looking at you in particular). It is helpful to have a map of Punjab LS seats for my review, so here is the link to one.

http://www.mapsofindia.com/parliamentar ... es/punjab/

Okay, now the AAP has won 4 constituencies, Fatehgarh Sahib, Sangrur, Patiala, and Faridkot.

In two of the seats, it has won by a very convincing margin, Faridkot (1.75 lakh), and Sangrur (2 lakhs). In Patiala, it has won by 20K votes, and in Fatehgarh Sahib, it has won by 50K votes.

Punjab is divided roughly into 3 regions. Region west of the Beas, and north of the Sutlej (region is called Majha, I think). This region has 3 seats (Khadoor Sahib, Amritsar and Gurdaspur). This region was among the worst hit by the Khalistan insurgency, IIRC. AAP has only a marginal presence in this region, with the best performance coming in Khadoor Sahib (old Taran Taran), with about 1.5 lakh votes. In the other two, AAP vote share is less than 1 lakh votes.

In the Beas-Sutlej doab, which has 2 seats (Jalandhar and Hoshiarpur), the AAP is making its presence felt strongly. In both seats it has 2 lakh+ votes, which is very creditable.

The last region is the region south of the Sutlej (called Malwa, I think), which has 8 seats (Ferozepur, Faridkot, Bathinda, Ludhiana, Anandpur Sahib (old Ropar), Fatehgarh Sahib (old Sirhind), Sangrur and Patiala, the AAP has done very well in the east, but less so towards the west (towards the Pakistani border). This region is traditionally the Akali stronghold, and particularly towards the south, west, and east, is much more rural in its character. In the two western seat of Ferozepur and Bathinda, the AAP has got <1 lakh votes in Bathinda, and just over 1 lakh votes in Ferozepur. In the north eastern and northern seats of Ludhiana and Anandpur Sahib respectively, the AAP has done well, getting 2.5 lakh (Ludhiana) and 3 lakh (Anandpur Sahib). It is in the southern, eastern and central seats of Sangrur, Faridkot, Fatehgarh Sahib and Patiala that the AAP has performed superbly, winning all four. The AAP infection is particularly serious in the two central seats of Faridkot and Sangrur, where the AAP has won 4 lakh+ and 5 lakh+ votes, winning very handsomely. Can someone point to what has caused this tumour growth in the centre of Malwa? What particular failure of the Akalis has done this?

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 19 May 2014 05:03

SwamyG wrote:
VikramS wrote: One guy on Twitter is now saying that Muslims must demand proportionate representation since they no longer feel secure.
Tell him Muslims are the safest in India, than in a Islamist country.

too bad! can't complain now. ask them to join BJP for the future seats, and fight for UCC; fair participation from all communities are welcome. we are moving to a merit based society, and ask them to move forward with us, or get left out. We can give lending hands, change their logic, but they have to drink the portion to survive. eye 4 eye is not understood at all now. we pass, and quell the evil to die for itself looking at barren sky and dessert.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 19 May 2014 05:10

On comic note, it is said that AAP won 4 seats in Punjab as folks misunderstood AAP word and thought they were voting for themselves

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Re-elections should be held in those four constituencies

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SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 19 May 2014 05:14

tweet that!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 19 May 2014 05:22

Nageshks & muraliravi, While the mind is still fresh can we start analyzing the vote patterns and also expert opinion?

So say from May 29th we start the analyses?

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 19 May 2014 05:25

ramana wrote:Nageshks & muraliravi, While the mind is still fresh can we start analyzing the vote patterns and also expert opinion?

So say from May 29th we start the analyses?

Yes, Ramana-ji. Maybe it will be good to divide states (it involves a lot of work, so if someone does the basic number crunching for the state, the rest of us can weigh in with our opinions?). It will be good if 4-5 of us take 5 states each (less for ppl who get UP, for instance), so that the basic number crunching is done by then?

Does anyone have any opinions on who wants to take what state?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 19 May 2014 05:27

I was thinking priority is those states that are slated for state elections and Delhi.
Second tier is border states like Punjab, West Bengal and J&K from security aspect.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 19 May 2014 05:34

ramana wrote:I was thinking priority is those states that are slated for state elections and Delhi.
Second tier is border states like Punjab, West Bengal and J&K from security aspect.

That means Haryana, Jharkhand, Maharashtra, and most likely Delhi (maybe even Bihar). I can take up Haryana, Delhi and Jharkhand right away, and have the data ready in about a week. Does MuraliRavi-ji, or someone else want to take Maharashtra?

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 19 May 2014 05:36

nageshks wrote:
ramana wrote:I was thinking priority is those states that are slated for state elections and Delhi.
Second tier is border states like Punjab, West Bengal and J&K from security aspect.
That means Haryana, Jharkhand, Maharashtra, and most likely Delhi (maybe even Bihar). I can take up Haryana, Delhi and Jharkhand right away, and have the data ready in about a week. Does MuraliRavi-ji, or someone else want to take Maharashtra?

Sure, I will take Maharashtra

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 19 May 2014 05:42

Thanks two stalwarts have stepped up to the task.
I want both of you to lead the effort.

SaiK you need to help pull data etc as they as

Am relying on you three to do this.

a_bharat · Post by **a_bharat** » 19 May 2014 06:02

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 19 May 2014 06:23

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Sambit Patra administering Jhapads to Mani Shankar Mullah

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 19 May 2014 07:31

Jhujar wrote:Guys, Since Modi have won from Varanasi, BJP from Assam and Ganga Will be cleaned . Lets remember the son of Assam
BHUPEN HAZARIKA'S GANGA BEHTI HO KYUN (SANSKRUT

Jhujar saab Kya baat hai. Truely great song, heard it after a while. Pt. Narendra Sharma agonizingly asks Ganga why dont you give birth to Bhismarupi another son.
The prayers have been answered on May 16.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 19 May 2014 07:42

Apart from Nithish Kumar, Rahul Narvekar made the biggest mistake of the election season. Dude, jumped from Shiv Sena to NCP, now whenever I see him on the TV - I see no life on his face. Earlier, he had the energy and smile, just like Devang Nanavati. And his presence on the TV shows would be lively. Now, poor dude. Wonder what bit him.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 19 May 2014 07:49

ramana wrote:Thanks two stalwarts have stepped up to the task.
I want both of you to lead the effort.

SaiK you need to help pull data etc as they as
Am relying on you three to do this.

baap re baap, bada kaam appun ko diya!

tell me what you want me to do?