Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 21 Apr 2014

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I am impressed with the bold move by Modi-ji to invite all SAARC head of states for his swearing in ceremony. Granted we don't have an ideal neighborhood. We have to deal with snakes like NS and war criminals like Rajapakse. However, we cannot wait indefinitely for a perfect environment and move ahead with what we have got now.

It's time India took leadership of the sub-continent. Otherwise China will do it for us. I for one am surprised that it took India 60 years to even contemplate this. Going forward, we should bring in Myanmar into SAARC fold. Arent Myanmar and Afghanistan are part of Akhand Bharat (meaning historic civilization of Bharat).
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arun wrote:
arun wrote:'Excellent move' by Narendra Modi to invite Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to swearing in: Omar Abdullah

Cannot say I agree. An unwise move.

“No show” of a SAARC leader will be spun as message to India of foreign discomfort for electing Modi and “no show” even in the absence of malice is likely given the short notice. Meanwhile this will be interpreted by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan as weakness especially given events on the LoC. This is a time for Pit Bulls not Labrador Retrivers with a “sensitive” side as witnessed yesterday at Parliament’s Central Hall. Let me hope this is a one time aberration and that the Nation is not saddled with a 56 inch chested metrosexual:

Pakistan again violates ceasefire along LoC in Poonch
Dredging up some history.

What exactly has changed since May 2013 in terms of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan addressing India’s concern on terrorism sponsored there to stoke India making nice to the Islamic Republic?

Then our sans 56 inch chest Prime Minister Manmohan Singh turned down the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s invitation to attend the induction of Nawaz Sharif as the Islamic Republics PM. Now we have a situation where an invitation to Nawaz Sharif to attend such an induction of an Indian PM has been tendered by our 56 inch chested to be PM :roll: :

Nawaz Sharif ’very happy’ if Manmohan Singh attends Pakistan inauguration

Has the Noble Peace prize disease struck early :?:
While it is recognized that the words from Shashi Tharoor are undoubtedly motivated, it would be wise for Mr. Modi to follow them else it will be a very short time into his Prime Ministerial term of office before we have a Kargil a'la Mr. Vajpayee or a Sharm El Sheikh a'la Dr. Manmohan Singh:
“It is one more reminder that there are people in the Government of Pakistan who are unable or unwilling to exercise control over the elements on their soil who conduct terror attack s against India or Indian interests whether in India or Afghanistan,”
“We urge Narendra Modi to bear in mind that earlier Atal Behari Vajpayee who took a bus trip to Lahore , and right after four months, the Kargil incident happened, and therefore, we should not allow history to repeat itself as some fundamental national interests remain unchanged no matter whosoever is in power.”
“We understand the enthusiasm for a photo- op celebration of swearing in of Modi, but we urge while these things are going on there should be great deal of caution about slipping into any substantive talks without the deliverables which the Congress has always insisted,”
“We have certain irreducible minimum demands after 26/11 which are definitely serious action pursued and punishment of the perpetrators of 26/11 and their allies and supporters and the dismantling of the infrastructure of terror from which attacks are conducted on India’s interest. If that has not happened and has not happened so far, then a high profile visit of either country should not be conducted without some concrete outcome.”
From here:

Shashi Tharoor terms Indian consulate attack as tragic, asks Narendra Modi to exercise caution
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Brad Goodman wrote:Benis quesiton? If HIV+ mujahid goes to jannat what happens to all the houris and peachy bottoms? :eek:
Kufr!!

Gates of jannat, as you know and aware of are only meant for the real momeens. These gates (the most beautifully designed by Allah's personal architect, Zaid-mahdi-ham-Eid) cure all diseases and turn the believers in straight men, once the momeen passes through them. You may also want to be award that the gates are "manned" by bin-qasim origin pakis with long, straight, white beards, shaven moustaches and dark marks of constant prostration on their foreheads. Reports also suggest that peachy bottoms have now turned into prunes as the jihadis from bakistan and affiliated territories have yet to learn the "ways" after being away from civilization for decades.

And that rumor about 72 virgins, its, well..., a rumor. Reports from despondent pakis who have returned indicate that it is now one 72-year old toothless virgin for each momeen who was shaheedized in the name of allah.
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schinnas wrote:I am impressed with the bold move by Modi-ji to invite all SAARC head of states for his swearing in ceremony. Granted we don't have an ideal neighborhood. We have to deal with snakes like NS and war criminals like Rajapakse. However, we cannot wait indefinitely for a perfect environment and move ahead with what we have got now.

It's time India took leadership of the sub-continent. Otherwise China will do it for us. I for one am surprised that it took India 60 years to even contemplate this. Going forward, we should bring in Myanmar into SAARC fold. Arent Myanmar and Afghanistan are part of Akhand Bharat (meaning historic civilization of Bharat).
Rajapakse, a war criminal. Not the same old hoary chestnut again. :lol:

if he is, then he is accompanied by a very, very ,very large contingent of ltte folks and an equally gigantic contingent of their overseas "supporters" of a certain fanatic religious persuasion, all of whom are now being touted as being more pure than the driven snow.

If the sinhala has not done what they had to do, they would have long been over run by these ltte turds. Better the sinhala than the ltte turds and certainly best for India.
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Apathy of MMS government shown towards our neighbours especially Nepal, Bhutan, SL etc has helped chinese to make inroads in our backyard. This cannot continue anymore. What Modi is doing is a good start. He cannot single out pakis, it just does not look good, so those @$$@! have to be here so be it. Inevitably this gathering of regional leaders has been played by media as indo-pak meeting..anyway. I hope Modi will start bringing all the neighbours again under Indian influence. It is absolutely important for our national security and aspiration.
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chetak wrote:Rajapakse, a war criminal. Not the same old hoary chestnut again. :lol:

if he is, then he is accompanied by a very, very ,very large contingent of ltte folks and an equally gigantic contingent of their overseas "supporters" of a certain fanatic religious persuasion, all of whom are now being touted as being more pure than the driven snow.

If the sinhala has not done what they had to do, they would have long been over run by these ltte turds. Better the sinhala than the ltte turds and certainly best for India.
+1

good thing is this time Modi does not have to worry too much about amma and other leaders. He has free hand to take the relationship with SL forward. That should also encourage SL leaders to lean more towards India.
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abhijitm wrote:
chetak wrote:Rajapakse, a war criminal. Not the same old hoary chestnut again. :lol:

if he is, then he is accompanied by a very, very ,very large contingent of ltte folks and an equally gigantic contingent of their overseas "supporters" of a certain fanatic religious persuasion, all of whom are now being touted as being more pure than the driven snow.

If the sinhala has not done what they had to do, they would have long been over run by these ltte turds. Better the sinhala than the ltte turds and certainly best for India.
+1

good thing is this time Modi does not have to worry too much about amma and other leaders. He has free hand to take the relationship with SL forward. That should also encourage SL leaders to lean more towards India.
I grant you that the tamil guys may have their grievances but to constantly undermine national interest for petty, personal and political expediency is really pathetic. amma included.

Leave the sinhala alone. They did right to polish off the ltte. No one else would have had the guts to do what they rightly did, in their best national interest.
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***Warning***
Guys, why are you discussing Rajapakse, amma et al here ?
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Apparently Nawaz is having some trouble securing permission to visit India.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/ ... 9C20140523

Also what is this nonsense of "Pakistan army wants to fight taliban but civilians dont" meme thats going around? Didnt the army sign peace deals upon peace deals when Musharraf was in power?
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A Question to the Wise :

Since Badmaash will be attending Modi's “Swearing In” as the next Prime Minister of India it would be usual for him to bring along a Large Entourage – may be 70 to 80 “Undesirables” - with him would the GoI ensure that they are all whetted and have already requested Badmaash for a full list? Hopefully GoI will have informed Badmaash to ensure that they all have Valid Vaccination against Polio.

It is to be kept in mind that on as per Dawn of 10th May 2014 Pakistani Ministry of National Health Services requested the World Health Organisation on Friday to give the government one month’s grace period, instead of 15 days sought earlier, to implement WHO recommendations for stopping transfer of wild poliovirus across the borders.

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Benis quesiton? If HIV+ mujahid goes to jannat what happens to all the houris and peachy bottoms? :eek:
This is quite clear in Sura 9 X-YZ: "Lo, verily, those burdened with what shall come to be known as AIDS, shall, indeed, go to Hades, wherefore, verily, they shall be entertained by 72 virginal houris with AIDS (contracted by intravenous blood transfusion onleeeee ha ha ahahahah)."

Check it out in the translation by Papaduke Pickarse
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You guys should watch Times Now with Arnab running now. This is the funniest debate I've ever seen. G Parthasarathy sounds wasted. Looks like he hit the bottle early. He is struggling to get words out of his mouth. Meantime there is a Paki called Kasuri something screaming Brahmin, Kautilya, Chaankya... :rotfl: Arnab has got a wicked smile and he keeps going to Partha to get him to speak..This is gold.
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Benis quesiton? If HIV+ mujahid goes to jannat what happens to all the houris and peachy bottoms? :eek:his is quite clear in Sura 9 X-YZ: "Lo, verily, those burdened with what shall come to be known as AIDS, shall, indeed, go to Hades, wherefore, verily, they shall be entertained by 72 virginal houris with AIDS (contracted by intravenous blood transfusion onleeeee ha ha ahahahah)."
Check it out in the translation by Papaduke Pickarse
Folks, Sexually Transmitted Deen Vs Sexually Transmitted Disease is very interesting scenario. But remember when Mind is Already lost to Inbreeding , AID or NO AID have no actual meaning among brain dead , morally Comatose critters.
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http://www.dawn.com/news/1108159/sikhs- ... -holy-book
Sikhs protest attacks on religious sites, desecration of holy book
ISLAMABAD: Dozens of baton-holding protestors from the Sikh community pushed past the front gate and entered the grounds of parliament on Friday, protesting recent attacks on their houses of worship.Sikhs from Sindh and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province had gathered outside parliament to protest against what they claimed was the alleged desecration in Shikarpur of Guru Granth Sahib, the holy book of the Sikh community.Sikhs are a tiny minority in predominantly Muslim Pakistan, with most of them living in the southern Sindh province.Senior police officer Aftab Cheema said the Sikh leaders were also protesting against several attacks on their worship places in Sindh.The protestors demanded that the minority community be given protection to practice their religion. They demanded that the government register all their religious sites and places of worship, similar to mosques, and install CCTV cameras for surveillance and security.The Sikhs briefly staged a sit-in on parliament’s lawns, police said, before government representatives – which included PML-N lawmakers Syed Zafar Ali Shah and Ramesh Kumar – held negotiations with them.After successful negotiations, the protestors left the grounds of parliament peacefully.According to sources, the Leader of the House in the Senate, Raja Zafarul Haq has spoken to Chief Minister Sindh Qaim Ali Shah, asking him to provide better protection to the Sikh community and their places of worship. Police officer Cheema said investigators would look into how protesters made it past the gate.
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chetak wrote: I grant you that the tamil guys may have their grievances but to constantly undermine national interest for petty, personal and political expediency is really pathetic. amma included.

Leave the sinhala alone. They did right to polish off the ltte. No one else would have had the guts to do what they rightly did, in their best national interest.
You are totally missing the point. LTTE is a terrorist org and most Tamils in India including JJ are not shedding tears for them. However, what many Indians dont recognize is that Srilanka and Rajapakse has turned fascist with a unitary model country depriving Tamils of their language, culture and religion and in effect stating Sri lanka is for Singhalese. What Rajapakse did in SL is not very different from what Pakis did in East Bengal. What Rajapakse stands for is polar opposite of what India stands for. Also there is a wrong notion that Sri Lankan Tamils are Christians. Majority of them are staunch Shivites and Singhalese regularly bombed temples in their civil war.

People confusing Srilankan situation with India (esp J&K) dont understand that Bharat at its core has an inclusive civilization and gives equal rights to everyone, which was not the case in East Pakistan or Srilanka under Rajapakse. Exclusivist philosophies followed violently by Rajapakse's Srilanka or East Pakistan are contrary to our fundamental values. Being against LTTE shouldn't mean we should support Rajapakse. Both of them are against what India stands for. If India does not take a moral stand against the continued discrimination against Tamils in our own backyard, shame on us. Next time any section of people of Indian origin are attacked and discriminated against anywhere in the world, we would lose the moral right to support them.
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http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9 ... aging-Modi
Modi is a rare combination of the two. He has his spell and a sterling record of development, aided without doubt by an enabling environment where the electorate could only rest their hopes on him after others had betrayed it with dismal performance. He seems a man who can easily connect with the people. An effective orator, he outshined Rahul Gandhi who appeared unenthused and listless in comparison. To the dismay of many in Pakistan, let me suggest that if Modi gets his act together, he will take India places. India will change, perhaps finally realising its dream and potential, as will its polity. India will never be the same again; this remains my considered opinion. He is that kind of fellow.
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y in Pakistan wondered if this was an election lost or an election won. If there was one factor that played in wooing the voters, it was leadership, or the lack of it when they disavowed the Congress. That did it for Modi. Modi appeared resolute, clear headed, focused and decisive; all that Manmohan or Rahul were not. Is there a lesson out there for us and our political class? Especially in our current situation where not only are institutions entangled with each other, they are also breaking up within. What is needed for Pakistan too is a no-nonsense style of leadership that is upfront, owns the problems, and seems willing and active in doing something about it. Not the kind of absent leadership that sleeps by the side as the state and the nation unravel before it. Statesmanship has been wrongly understood by this clan. They think sleeping through, or remaining detached and above the fray is how statesmen are made. There cannot be another as fallacious a conception. Statesmen are leaders, and leaders work with their hands. Will Modi spur Nawaz to do better? I feel the simple relativity of how India propels, and how Pakistan nosedives under listless, lackadaisical leadership, will be enough factors to force a change. Of what kind will remain to be seen. Manmohan’s listlessness was too contagious.

Modi, however is no goody-two-shoes. He is also characterised as the ‘butcher of Gujarat’. That will change. He is someone who reads his role well. What was needed then to appease some at the RSS was then and that helped him establish his position within the party; but now there is a different role for him. The weight of his victory will help Modi establish his influence not only within the BJP, but also within the RSS. He is likely to have much greater freedom of action, as he now goes about establishing himself as a man of substance in the international arena. He will not be the gung-ho Modi that we assume, instead he will be deliberate, firm and unyielding in the way that he charts his and India’s future. How might then Pakistan manage him? The first apprehension is will he war with Pakistan. Here is how it will go. He will begin with an immediate assessment of what his armed forces will need to gain an assured level of readiness – armed forces are always short of what they assume is absolute readiness; remember the nine months that Manekshaw needed before the 1971 war, or how the Indian army dithered after Mumbai from a reprisal action. Modi’s aim will not be to seek a war. But come another situation like Mumbai 2008, he would like his military to respond with effect; of that there should be little confusion. Pakistan will then need to evolve its own plan to first deter and then respond to such a reprisal. That will put them both on a slippery slope of escalation dominance.What both sides will need instead are measures and processes that will control and manage escalation, not dominate it. Failing these the spiral down the stability regime will be rather rapid; consequences untold and horrendous. It will also help if another Mumbai does not occur. We can be assured of Modi working hard to find space for an armed retribution if he was tested with something as horrible as that. It is better to be prepared than be surprised. And how do you manage him? By simply being better at what he does. With our current pack, forget it.Tailpiece: In a master stroke Modi has invited Nawaz Sharif to his inauguration. That is enough to test the mettle of Pakistan’s leadership. If Nawaz goes he will need the acumen to dominate his first interaction with Modi. Otherwise he is coming back with a clearer enunciation of how Modi would like Nawaz to respond to his concerns. Devil and the deep blue sea, is it?
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X-posted from NaMo superthread.

Re: the invitation of Nawaz Sharif to the inauguration.

Something to bear in mind. Nawaz Sharif got to be PM because, of all the parties in the Paki elections, his PMLN was the one most in bed with the Punjabi tanzeems (JeM, LeT, SSP, LeJ etc.) All the other parties' candidates were either getting blown up by these Tanzeems or scared to hold rallies, etc. because of the threat. Nawaz sailed through as a result.

Ties between Nawaz and people like Hafiz Suar are very deep and long-standing. They go both ways in terms of funding, political support, campaigning, recruitment, propaganda, and many kinds of "bijnejj" where the main competitor is TSPA-owned agricultural and industrial corporations. They are much deeper than the ties between Nawaz and TSPA (in fact the mainstream TSPA backed PTI/Imran Khan in the elections, but Nawaz won, revealing that the Punjabi Tanzeems and their ISI godfathers are a far more powerful kingmaker in Paki domestic politics than even TSPA).

Defenders of Nawaz Sharif say that in fact, he and his brother Shahbaz have no choice but to be in bed with the Punjabi Tanzeems. They are his "insurance" against an Army Jernail (with possible US backing) deposing him once again, exactly as Musharraf did in 1999.

Now, consider calmly and carefully the result of the invitation to Nawaz Sharif by Modi. TSPA obviously disapproves but isn't saying anything much in public. Meanwhile Hafiz Suar, Nawaz's "insurance" and most powerful backer so far, is openly threatening Nawaz in public. All this because Modi (who knows very well what he symbolizes in Pakistan) issued one invite to Nawaz to attend his swearing-in ceremony... the shakily-balanced equations of Pak Govt, TSPA and Jihadi tanzeems have received a hard whack. And Modi hasn't even been sworn in yet.

But maybe I am wrong, and maybe Modi is just after the Nobel Prize and coerced by secularitis to appease the Indian Muslim votebank, just like MMS was. :roll:
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^^ Pakrat panelists getting into abusive streetfights on Indian TV channels is also a great counterpoint to the melismatic Sufi howls on the Aman ka Tamasha show. Pakrats kill Aman ki Asha - just because Modi politely issued an invitation to Nawaz Shareef and stirred up doodoo in Pakhanastan.
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Not sure if modi invite is chunkian. But the confusion that Nawaz has on whether to attend or not makes it clear for everyone who is in charge in Pakistan. Apparently Sartaj Aziz is for it and Mr Bean is against it and obviously the Army is against it.

I think his brother will attend, with Nawaz finding some convenient "urgent excuse" to stay back.
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If NS does not attend, it takes the pressure off NaMo to 'visit pak'. It's calling NS' bluff right away: if you cant make the decision to travel for a swearing in, how much credibility do you have to deal weightier issues?

If NS does not come, NaMo will smile and write him off.
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Anujan wrote:Not sure if modi invite is chunkian. But the confusion that Nawaz has on whether to attend or not makes it clear for everyone who is in charge in Pakistan. Apparently Sartaj Aziz is for it and Mr Bean is against it and obviously the Army is against it.

I think his brother will attend, with Nawaz finding some convenient "urgent excuse" to stay back.
Fine Shahbaz can join the second rank of dignitaries (and non -premium menu:)) with zero photops
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Apparently Khurshid Mahmud Kasuri said that the new Indian government is headed by a terrorist in Arnab's show in times now. Why arent such people blacklisted?
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Guys, I will cut ModiJi some slack, he is not even sworn in as PM just yet, but had this TSP attack in Herat succeeded, it would have really tested him. Question is what are India's options. Loud mouth Arnab as usual had a bunch of Pakis on his show who literally bragging about the attack and calling for resolution of "core issue", while the Indians Maroof, GP, and BJP spokesman Chari had no clue on how to respond. They kept repeating the usual litany of complaints India has and how TSP must seize the moment by responding to Modi. Pathetic. Mother India ought to do better.
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On India’s Modi-fication
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/opinion/24 ... i-fication
As soon as the expected result from India started to trickle in, the Twitterville and our English media went abuzz reflecting the concerns of our fellow countrymen for their Muslim brethren in India. A BJP win is viewed as a major problem for Indian Muslims. Our fairly enlightened journos, who do this gig for a living, were echoing the sentiments of an average Pakistani on Twitter. To me, all of that sounded pretentious and a bit absurd. 180 million or so Muslims of India, out of approximately 1.2 billion people, have persevered and thrived in India for 67 years and counting. A conservative Hindu government cannot just sideline, overlook or ignore such a significant minority. I say this with utmost confidence; we will not see any packed trains to Pakistan, bringing us dejected and dissatisfied co-religionists from India. The primary reason why despite upsets — including the Gujarat riots — in the backdrop, Muslims are able to survive and thrive along with other minorities is India’s secular constitution. The last BJP stint did not see gruesomeness like Gujarat spread across the country so there is plenty of hope for this one as well. Any inkling of a conservative government with a Hindu majority, gives most of us an ‘aha’ moment, that solidifies the raison d’être of Pakistan. We thank our heavens and stars and our founder for steering us to this ‘Promised Land’. But I find our stance quite hypocritical, since when it comes to Pakistan, a country that was formed on the base of Islam, people seek and appreciate a conservative government, yet when it comes to India, the same people dislike that idea. My personal views about conservatives are well known — regardless of what country, I am always against any hardline approach. So our folks with their bleeding hearts will regurgitate the tragedies of Gujarat and conveniently ignore the daily bloodshed in our land. To top everything, in our case, it is Muslim on Muslim violence, which gets either swept under the rug or blamed on ‘foreign’ and ‘invisible’ hands.
Perhaps, it would be in Mr Modi’s best interest to send signals to all the minorities of India and alleviate their concerns. This of course should be followed with appropriate measures after he takes his oath of office, because at our end, we have the Hafiz Saeeds and Zaid Hamids and their like, who will paint a gloomy picture for Indian Muslims and cause unnecessary hysteria. I am sure India has its own versions of these loonies, who pump similar rhetoric into their equally mindless followers. Regardless of who occupies the office, whether it is India or Pakistan, the main issues remain the same. At our end, we have the perception that we have gone the extra mile to extend a hand to our neighbours and it seems like on the other end there is the usual stalling tactic. When you try to get the pulse of Indians, their long standing concerns are pertaining to our folks and their involvement in a ‘disputed’ region. We have been going round and round in these circles forever and ever.
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Rudradev wrote:
Ties between Nawaz and people like Hafiz Suar are very deep and long-standing. They go both ways in terms of funding, political support, campaigning, recruitment, propaganda, and many kinds of "bijnejj" where the main competitor is TSPA-owned agricultural and industrial corporations.
As an aside, the above has been obvious to us on BRF and to others such as Parthasarathy and a few other keen observers of shitland. But why oh why do our media - like that bimbo on NDTV still talk like "Nawaz Sharif is keen on the visit but.."?

This business of "Nawaz Sharif being ken on coming" is a bogey that seeks to do the usual ulloo banaoing of easily ulloo banaoed Indians who actually believe that Nawaz Sharif means well for India. What will it take to make Indian media slightly more intelligent and perceptive?

Sharif is no friend of India.
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Two maiden overs bowled in Islamabad

ISLAMABAD: Twin bomb attacks rocked Pakistan's capital Islamabad early Saturday, injuring two people, officials said.

The first blast took place around 2:00 am (2100 GMT) in an upmarket shopping area close to the city centre.

"It is not yet clear whether a suicide bomber was involved or not... both of the injured were watchmen," Chaudhry Hafiz Hussain, a senior police official, told AFP.

Local TV showed broken glass and branches strewn across the pavement.

Abdul Majeed, another police official, told AFP by telephone a separate bomb had gone off in another area of Islamabad around half an hour later, with no one hurt.

"The bomb disposal squad is examining the site to ascertain the nature of the second blast," he said.

The attacks were the first to strike the capital since an explosion tore through a fruit and vegetable market in April, killing at least 22 people.

Saturday's incident came after three days of air strikes by the Pakistani military against militant hideouts which killed at least 75 people, in apparent retaliation against insurgent strikes and against foreign fighters, according to a security official.

A month-long ceasefire between Pakistan and the Taliban, who have waged a seven-year insurgency, expired last month.
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I hope the STFUPA resolves the problem of Modi invitation for Badmash by doing a coo.
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kenop wrote:I hope the STFUPA resolves the problem of Modi invitation for Badmash by doing a coo.
Well in the good old days, people in Pakjab pretty much accepted the coup as "good" for the country and the army was free to suppress any little insurgency in NWFP (Khyber Pakhtunkhwa).

But now they have a full blown civil war going on with the Crapistan army tied up there, desertions of Pakthuns and sectarian war in Karachi and terrorism in Punjab, and the Paki army has also committed itself to security of Chinese and ohetr security duties. The Pakistan army is not in a position to conduct a coup. A coup will make no difference to Pakistan in terms of law and order.

One thing that might be happening is a gradual relegation of Pakistan to irrelevance as far as India is concerned. If terrorism subsides India will simply dump Pakistan and pay no attention. Pakistan is now struggling to stay relevant
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Christine Fair · @CChristineFair

 23rd May 2014 from TwitLonger

So the Pak Defense Attache sent a minion to the Pentagon where I was presenting my book FIghting to the End to request that I sign my book for the DaT, a one Brig. "Cattar." (No offense to cat lovers intended.) I thought this was pretty rich after all the tattiyan they have pulled with me. It did not go go well for the minion. I told the minion that IF I signed it, it would say "Sub se bare chutiya ke liye." And, if that was not acceptable, "Cattar sahab mere bund chum sakte hain." Said minion was amused and demanded that he be escorted out of the Penagon.

Upon reaching home, this is the message I dispatched to Brig. Cattar. (Name has been changed to protect the guilty.)

"Cattar

I was amused that you sent a minion to the Pentagon to request that I sign a copy of Fighting to the End for you. It was also rewarding to see that the cover was removed. I guess the cover's intimation was too salient for GHQ? As your messenger no doubt informed you, things did not go as planned. It seemed that he also had to send a rather rangila return message. Such is the perils of his job, I presume.

Cutting to the chase, you may find that the "be nice to your face, stab you in the back" approach works well with U.S. diplomats and those in uniform who suffer the nonsense of the ISI and the Pak Army per force or out of ignorance. However, it does not work with me.

I am utterly exhausted with your country's dangerous policies that have resulted in the deaths of Americans and our allies in Afghanistan. I am disgusted with your organization's continued support to groups like the Haqqani killers, the LeT (or whatever new name under which they operate) among others.

I find the treatment that I received from your organization and the ISI, which you represent in your present capacity, to be worthy only of the worst countries and appallingly gendered. Frankly, I can't understand why your organization(s) think(s) that bullying me will silence me in expressing my outrage against your country's numerous crimes. Being PNG'ed is like being pregnant: you can't get more pregnant.

That my country still writes checks to underwrite and incentivize your country's perfidy is gob-smacking.

I have absolutely no intention or desire to return to the country that your organization has ruined for the indefinite future.

You should know that while I am one of the few who will say these things clearly and publicly, many in the U.S. government share my views. They are simply more constrained than I am in saying so.

As the owner of this message, I will be posting this exchange to my social media as a public record of this exchange.

Warmest Regards,

C. Christine Fair, PhD
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^chick is going ballistic...wonder what they really did to her.

In any case, not complaining ...
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JEM, she is referring to 'stabbing in the back' and also 'treatment received from the ISI' . . . obviously, something happened. Christine Fair has not been fair to us before. She knew about the perfidious behaviour of STFU-TSP and yet chose to side with them. She is antagonistic now because of this 'back stabbing'. She can't be trusted as she can join them back if suitable amends are made. Anyway, as you rightly said, not complaining . . . So far, so good.
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Rudradev wrote:X-posted from NaMo superthread.

Re: the invitation of Nawaz Sharif to the inauguration.

<snip>

Now, consider calmly and carefully the result of the invitation to Nawaz Sharif by Modi. TSPA obviously disapproves but isn't saying anything much in public. Meanwhile Hafiz Suar, Nawaz's "insurance" and most powerful backer so far, is openly threatening Nawaz in public. All this because Modi (who knows very well what he symbolizes in Pakistan) issued one invite to Nawaz to attend his swearing-in ceremony... the shakily-balanced equations of Pak Govt, TSPA and Jihadi tanzeems have received a hard whack. And Modi hasn't even been sworn in yet.

But maybe I am wrong, and maybe Modi is just after the Nobel Prize and coerced by secularitis to appease the Indian Muslim votebank, just like MMS was. :roll:
Modi did say that his administration will be "nothing like his critics imagined... he (Modi) has ambitions to go down in history as the man who changed the history of the subcontinent."

Words to that effect. It was widely reported.

So I believe NaMo is another pappi-jhappi kind of man when it comes to whacking STFUP. On all other counts I have the highest regards for and expectations from NaMo. He's a true son of Bharat mata.
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"Cattar sahab mere bund chum sakte hain.
caught my attn
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^^pls translate ...
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sports.ndtv.com/indian-premier-league-2014/news/224643-keeping-pakistan-players-out-of-ipl-is-hurting-indias-image-shahid-afridi
Pakistan all-rounder Shahid Afridi feels Indian cricket's image has taken a hit worldwide due to the Indian Premier League (IPL) organisers' decision to keep players from his country out of the Twenty20 event.
:(( :mrgreen:
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http://www.euronews.com/2014/05/23/ukra ... ays-putin/

“We should say unequivocally – everyone understands who we are talking about – it’s the transiting country, Ukraine, who is to blame. This country abuses its status of gas transit country for Europe,” Putin added.
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JE Menon wrote:^^pls translate ...
JE Menon Ji :

1. Kiss my Alpha - - Echo. That is what she meant. The word "Bund" refers to the Entrance to the Rear Garden of Delights.

2 Brig Gay Dear Catter : Catter - Bilu or Billa - short for Bilal

Added Later : She is one smart cookie! Cat is not the Clue. It is the opposit Dog.

The Brig Gay Dear is : Abdullah Dogar who is the Defence & Army Attache.

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JE Menon wrote:^^pls translate ...
Literally "Kiss my ass"
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Who taught her this colorful language..Too much for Paki Attache..
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