Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul 2014

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This is mutiny, Whatddo Paki call it? Poaqootney! Begining of the end as their capacity to resist, oppose India diminishing by the day now. Rich India will bury Poor Pakistan Bina Kharag Bina Gaal.
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First Bakistan Have no population problem but Bopulation Broblem
Bakistan has the brain numbing ammi-abba viral copulation problem. Bakistan has a 'bunny rate of growth'.
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Anujan wrote:Remember the news that some of the people who attacked the Navy dockyard were navy personnel? It was a lie!! Not some, but all attackers were navy personnel :rotfl:

http://www.dawn.com/news/1131654/dockya ... vy-frigate
According to informed sources, the attack was carried out entirely by serving Navy personnel, along with Owais Jakharani, a former Navy cadet who could have been given access inside without too much trouble.
“The group of would-be hijackers, led by a senior officer, was even saluted by the guard at the bottom of the gangway, before another became suspicious of their intentions and alerted other personnel.” :mrgreen: 8)
How difficult is it for this scenario to play out in a nuclear warhead storage silo? How do you ensure incorruptible personnel guarding the weapons, when the forces are pervasively compromised by terrorist ideologies and organizations?
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Let us add to the lexicon of Bakistan:

State Navy and Non-State (rogue) Navy.
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How difficult is it for this scenario to play out in a nuclear warhead storage silo? How do you ensure incorruptible personnel guarding the weapons, when the forces are pervasively compromised by terrorist ideologies and organizations?
Maybe the State-TSPA is secure in the fact the nukes are duds, even if the four rings of security are compromised for jihad fistula by Non-State TSPA.
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The Naval attack seems to be a staged one aimed at keeping the US dole tap flowing. Paki military is apprehensive of the tap being closed after the US withdrawal from Afghanistan.

This was preceded by ISPR ( channel 2: run by so called non-state actors) announcement of formation of Al-Qaeda's South Asian wing. In Pakistan Pak military is Al-Qaeda.
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Moral victory for India as UK MPs debate on Kashmir
LONDON: The British government on Thursday condemned terrorism and violence and rejected mediation in the dispute between India and Pakistan on Kashmir in a parliamentary debate in which pro-India speakers among the MPs overwhelmed Pakistan supporters by almost three to one.

Replying at the end of a three-hour debate on the political and humanitarian situation in Kashmir, Tobias Ellwood, a junior minister in the foreign office, said, "Talks (between India and Pakistan) can only take place free from terrorism and violence." He reiterated there would be "no mediation" by Britain in respect of the differences between India and Pakistan over Kashmir.

The debate took place in a committee room and under the auspices of the Backbench Business Committee. In other words, it wasn't a part of government business and there was no vote at the end of the debate. At the same time, it had official recognition.

Of the 18 speakers who participated, only three clearly stood up for Islamabad's cause — the mover of the debate, David Ward, who represented a Bradford constituency where most of the voters or their families hail from Mirpur in Pakistani-administered Kashmir, and two MPs of Pakistani-origin.
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^ I think it is good to know that majority opinions in the west are now in our favor. Some may call this a blatant interference in our internal matter. But like it or not whatever is between India and pukistan, the west and china are direct or indirect contributors. If we think that paki mc bc are such a pain in our our arse and they can punch above their weight because of 3.5 support then any sign of change in that situation is welcome.

We can guard our own interest. But if someone is taking our side and bashing puki mc bc then hell I say one more time baby!
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RCase wrote:
First Bakistan Have no population problem but Bopulation Broblem
Bakistan has the brain numbing ammi-abba viral copulation problem. Bakistan has a 'bunny rate of growth'.
There are 250+ million pigs across our western border. Anything less is madrassa math.
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abhijitm wrote:^ I think it is good to know that majority opinions in the west are now in our favor. Some may call this a blatant interference in our internal matter. But like it or not whatever is between India and pukistan, the west and china are direct or indirect contributors. If we think that paki mc bc are such a pain in our our arse and they can punch above their weight because of 3.5 support then any sign of change in that situation is welcome.

We can guard our own interest. But if someone is taking our side and bashing puki mc bc then hell I say one more time baby!
Looks like we are searching for a pat on the back here and also want to impress people by holding a higher moral ground. That higher moral ground is what is costing us dearly. We will be better off NOT giving an inch. And make the proverbial mile an impossibility.
The Brits are masters at playing both sides. Let us not forget that. It is best we ignore everything else and show only our anger at this being discussed in UK.
Guess what China did when Cameron played the Tibet card ? Britain was shut out from state visits. Angela Merkel made full use of that and ensured good gains for german products.
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the brits are preparing the ground for future intervention, they are just placating the stronger side, for now. The day nukes are unleashed, there needs to one Chinese/Russian/Indian nuke too with "Queen" written on it.
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^ who cares about pat on the back? Its paki bashing that is more important. If somebody takes your side then least we can do is just savour the moment. Will give back if they speak against our interest. And if that make somebody to call us hypocrite then we'll show them middle finger.
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Demonstration of the IEDology of Pakistan kills 3:

Blast in Quetta leaves 3 dead, 20 others injured
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Shreeman wrote: Half is already gone to two other ports.
If they have two other ports, what are they? Do not count Gwadar in it.
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Nandu wrote:So for an UK parliament debate to make it clear to them that there is no such backing is, IMHO, important in the bigger scheme of things.
May be, but Pakistan's interpretation (which we can expect within the next few days) will be on the familiar pattern as Ms C.Fair has explained to her western audience. That is, the very fact that there was a debate on Kashmir in the Parliament of the country which granted freedom to Pakistan [and India] and which has a moral obligation in resolving the issue because it was its partition award that caused this problem in the first place, is in itself a vindication of Pakistan's claims. Just wait.
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We have to be masters of this skill:
http://goo.gl/YbHdu8
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DipankarJi, abhijitmJi, the very headline that ToILeT put out "Moral victory for India as UK MPs debate on Kashmir" makes me profusely throw up. How is a debate by pipsqueak UK in its parliament as its internal matter be considered a "victory for India". This itself shows how f%$%ing compromised our elite are.

Now, coming to the so called "victory", nobody should be fooled. Its like a good cop, bad cop strategy. UK has no business in India's internal affairs in the first place.
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abhijitm wrote:Its paki bashing that is more important. If somebody takes your side then least we can do is just savour the moment. Will give back if they speak against our interest. And if that make somebody to call us hypocrite then we'll show them middle finger.
the theory goes according to this. If you accept their praise, you have to accept their criticism as well. Tomorrow if these americans/british give the pakis backing for their misdemeanour in Kashmir or in India and this parliament gives it human rights cover, you will be shown up as opportunistic to accept only when they backed India and not when they backed pakistan.

The anglo-saxon is then again the fair mediator, acceptable to both pakis and pseudo hindus. Do you want to see this ? Your middle-finger will amount to nothing.
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Did anyone see how full and overflowing the British parliament was during that debate? Sure generated a lot of interest - although most of the members were hiding under their seats and could not be seen when the video was taken.

Britain has encouraged and collected a huge POK minority from the days that the Mangla dam was constructed so the issue is partly domestic politics.
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Oh my God, let TSP abuse us, let TSP send terrorists, let TSP run a viscous campaign through its surrogates to defame Indian army in Kashmir, but we must be nice to TSP and let them come to India and showcase their talents; so says HT

http://www.hindustantimes.com/comment/l ... 63455.aspx
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -ship.html
Al-Qaeda India branch’s first attack ends in dismal failure as jihadists 'raid wrong ship'

Al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent, the new group announced last week by Ayman al-Zawahiri to bolster his flagging fortunes, suffered a setback when three of its fighters were killed and seven arrested in its first ever terror attack.


Heavily armed militants attacked a naval dock in Karachi's sea port on Saturday night and targeted what they believed was an American aircraft carrier, but instead found a Pakistan Navy frigate and were overwhelmed before they could cause any damage, investigators said.


Three jihadis were killed in the attack, four were captured and another three arrested the following day on information from interrogations. Two Pakistan Navy guards were wounded in the fighting.


"It was a complete failure, they did not do any kind of damage, some were captured and we caught more, seven so far and may be more to come. They were well-equipped and came with the intention of taking a ship into their custody but they were caught in the initial stages," a senior source close to the investigation told the Telegraph.


Al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent, the militant group unveiled by Zawahiri last week to demonstrate his clout despite the rise of Islamic State (Isil), claimed responsibility for the attack on Thursday and said former Pakistan Navy men had carried it out.
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Isn't that telegraph article about Al Qaeda All Hind attacking wrong ship complete bull crap since the attack was actually by Paki Navy itself? TTP also claimed responsibility for the attack.
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habal wrote:the theory goes according to this. If you accept their praise, you have to accept their criticism as well. Tomorrow if these americans/british give the pakis backing for their misdemeanour in Kashmir or in India and this parliament gives it human rights cover, you will be shown up as opportunistic to accept only when they backed India and not when they backed pakistan.

The anglo-saxon is then again the fair mediator, acceptable to both pakis and pseudo hindus. Do you want to see this ? Your middle-finger will amount to nothing.
The theory goes according to this. Every time the west try to speak of indo-pak issue many of us brown their pants. This is the product of lack of faith in oneself. What if they say that, what we will do? what if we say this, what will happen next? As if we don't condemn them we will be obliged to accept their mediation. And what if tomorrow they say whole of j&k belongs to pakistan or they say they support referendum , what will happen? Will GoI be obliged to listen to them oh because you know what last time they took our side we failed to condemn them. Well, things are not that straightforward, definitely not in this millenium. So please stop being so insecured and paranoid.
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abhijitmJi, kindly click the link A_GuptaJi posted: viewtopic.php?p=1716085#p1716085

Fact of the matter is that, and I challenge you to dispute it, both US/UK want India to make massive concessions to TSP on Kashmir: which means giving them the valley (eventually), or for a start, to make it palatable to India (MMS's 4 point formula), some bogus crap like "joint management" of Kashmir etc. Make no mistake about this.

I will trust US and UK intentions if they stick to FACTS. And that is, state clearly and unequivocally that there is no question of plebiscite or referendum or UN resolutions simply because TSP has reneged on the very first clause of the UN resolutions, namely, withdrawal of their troops and handing over POK to India. There is something called statute of limitations. Going back to UN resolutions just because it suits US/UK and TSP now, when they themselves reneged when it was not favorable to them is fraudulent and mischief mongering.

Once US/UK state this, TSP themselves will stop asking for mediation. Right now, TSP desperately wants mediation, US/UK would like to, and they are trying all kinds of tricks to make it palatable for India.

Bottom line: Unless US/UK change their fundamental stance and reconcile the valley as an integral part of India, which they have not behind the smiles and bonhomie, India should be loathe to any mention of the K word, good or bad, by the US/UK fraudsters.
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Guy is trying to be funny, but as far as India is concerned, its not LeT but you guessed it, Al Queda that is the gold standard for terrorism

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seriously ... 05482.html
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CRamS wrote:Bottom line: Unless US/UK change their fundamental stance and reconcile the valley as an integral part of India, which they have not behind the smiles and bonhomie, India should be loathe to any mention of the K word, good or bad, by the US/UK fraudsters.
Fact is CRamS we cannot change the status quo by ourselves in our favor. We will definitely not allow pakistan to change that other way with our without anybody's help, no matter what and who is running GoI. Then, if we are willing to play a long term game the option left with us is to start gathering more support especially from those who are benefactors of pakistan. So I fail to understand how repelling and shutting positive support from within 3.5 is tactically better than encouraging them. And I also fail to understand the merit of the argument that if we listen to what benefit us then we are obliged listen to what harm us.

If we agree that pakistan is what it is 'mostly' because of 3.5 support them then I believe it would be wise of us if we start encouraging those elements within 3.5 who favor us. They might be deceiving or they might be true. Let time decide that. But shutting them outright is not wise IMHO.

PS: i dont agree with that headline 'moral victory'. That is too dumb.
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shiv wrote:Did anyone see how full and overflowing the British parliament was during that debate? Sure generated a lot of interest - although most of the members were hiding under their seats and could not be seen when the video was taken.

Britain has encouraged and collected a huge POK minority from the days that the Mangla dam was constructed so the issue is partly domestic politics.
Apparently this was not a proper house of commons debate, some sort of side debate held in a side chamber and only 18 MP showed up. Only three of them were pro Paki, two of Paki/Mirpuri origin and the third some Mr. Ward, a Brit who relies on East Bradford Paki/Mirpuri votes. The rest 15 spoke against the Paki. A big let down for the Paki.
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wig wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -ship.html
Al-Qaeda India branch’s first attack ends in dismal failure as jihadists 'raid wrong ship'

Al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent, the new group announced last week by Ayman al-Zawahiri to bolster his flagging fortunes, suffered a setback when three of its fighters were killed and seven arrested in its first ever terror attack.


Heavily armed militants attacked a naval dock in Karachi's sea port on Saturday night and targeted what they believed was an American aircraft carrier, but instead found a Pakistan Navy frigate and were overwhelmed before they could cause any damage, investigators said.


Three jihadis were killed in the attack, four were captured and another three arrested the following day on information from interrogations. Two Pakistan Navy guards were wounded in the fighting.


"It was a complete failure, they did not do any kind of damage, some were captured and we caught more, seven so far and may be more to come. They were well-equipped and came with the intention of taking a ship into their custody but they were caught in the initial stages," a senior source close to the investigation told the Telegraph.


Al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent, the militant group unveiled by Zawahiri last week to demonstrate his clout despite the rise of Islamic State (Isil), claimed responsibility for the attack on Thursday and said former Pakistan Navy men had carried it out.
Read carefully the bolded part. Very clever headline of the article for creating good psyops effect. Was any Indian involved in this attack?
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Punjabi Taliban call off armed struggle in Pakistan
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PESHAWAR: The Punjabi Taliban militant group on Saturday announced that it was giving up its armed struggle in Pakistan, and would now pursue the implementation of Shariah in the country through peaceful means.In a newly released video message and a written statement, a copy of which was received by Dawn.com, Punjabi Taliban Chief Ismatullah Muawiya said that after consultation with the Ulema, and given the prevailing situation in Pakistan, the organization was ending its armed struggle within the country, limiting its use of force to "infidel forces".Ismatullah Muawiya had only a few days ago announced the group would limit its activities to Afghanistan, and today's announcement is of great significance as it appears to mark the end of the anti-Pakistan armed struggle of the largest Taliban group, in terms of sheer numbers. The faction had been active in Punjab, the political power base of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N).The announcement indicates further fragmentation in the umbrella Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), which suffered a setback when a new bloc recently declared its split from the group's official leadership. The TTP Jamatul Ahrar (freedom fighters group) said it would no longer recognise TTP Chief Mullah Fazlullah as its Emir, and named Omar Khalid Khorasani as its commander.In the same video, Muawiya said the Punjabi Taliban would continue with Dawat Tablig (preaching) and would be operating in Afghanistan. He also called upon the other warring Taliban groups and the government to return to the peace process. The Pakistani Taliban had announced a ceasefire earlier this year, where attempts were made to continue peace talks with the government.Muawiya also called upon the government to rehabilitate the war affected people of the tribal areas "with honour and dignity" and provide them compensation. He said that, "peace is the need of the hour to foil conspiracies against Pakistan and its people."The Punjabi Taliban chief also announced that the organisation would start relief activities in the flood hit areas of Punjab.As noted in previous reports, the Punjabi Taliban had become increasingly open to talking peace with the government, and that was the reason the more hardline Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan leadership parted ways with them.
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MN Kumar wrote:Was any Indian involved in this attack?

Yes, all the attackers were Indians baniyas (confirmed after post mortem) who travelled from Bombay to k'rachi by a fishing boat, donned pee-en-yes' uniforms en route and attacked their al-sword. 1000 thanks be to arrah, the all seeing everywhere and all mericiful(ly brutal), who gave djinn technology to the puristanis yesterday and al-sword suddenly morphed into an Amriki aircraft carrier - three times its size, and then remorphed into al-sword complete with puristani navels to subdue the Raa Indian operatives. We have arrested 1900 baniyas to date. We are truly blessed. By the way, we now have djinn technology and all its codes. Our troubles are finally over.
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Jhujar wrote:Punjabi Taliban call off armed struggle in Pakistan
Haramistan link
Muawiya said the Punjabi Taliban would continue with Dawat Tablig (preaching).... open to talking peace with the government
Peace at last, peace at last, peace at last.
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Are Punjabi Taliban now regrouping to become "Indian Al-Qeeda" now that US forces are leaving Afghanistan and the Baki STFUP army has strategic depth there.

Would serve the 3.5, Bakis and Jeehaaardis well to do that.
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Al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent, the new group announced last week by Ayman al-Zawahiri to bolster his flagging fortunes, suffered a setback when three of its fighters were killed and seven arrested in its first ever terror attack.
South Asia when it is convenient, Indian Subcontinent when it is convenient.
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Now we know where Khalid sheikh mohd got his 9/11 idea from.... turns out its a PIA ad from 1979 or something....

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anupmisra wrote:
MN Kumar wrote:Was any Indian involved in this attack?
Yes, all the attackers were Indians baniyas ...
My mistake. Its wasn't a question.
Its not even South Asia or Indian subcontinent now. They are directly quoting as Indian.
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Lack of Ijlamic activity like sucide bombing, beheading, IED explosion,etc has upset even Arrah. He has decided enough is enough and caused floods in god forsaken ijlamic paradise called pakisatan

Seven including bridegroom drown as boat capsizes
Seven people including bridegroom drowned as an over-loaded boat capsized near flood-hit Shershah embankment on Sunday.

According to rescue sources, the boat carrying 20 to 25 wedding guests overturned near Shershah embankment when it was moving from Chenab to Multan.

Bodies of seven people have been recovered while 15 more people including bride are still missing, the rescue sources said.
25 drowned, just 7 bodies recovered. Keep faith in Arrah, he wont disappoint. Just 7 deaths is an insult to violent god like Arrah.
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Jhujar wrote:Punjabi Taliban call off armed struggle in Pakistan
We have to really understand this change of heart, if indeed it is true. There is something very fishy here.
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SSridhar wrote:
Jhujar wrote:Punjabi Taliban call off armed struggle in Pakistan
We have to really understand this change of heart, if indeed it is true. There is something very fishy here.
This sounds like another of those ceasefires that used to last for a few minutes before collapsing in a blaze of Ak47 fire.
PESHAWAR: The Punjabi Taliban militant group on Saturday announced that it was giving up its armed struggle in Pakistan, and would now pursue the implementation of Shariah in the country through peaceful means.
Peaceful means. Such as singing ArrahuAkbal bhajans, wearing taaveez and sacrificing goats? Door-to-door philosophical debate to bring out the beauty and truth of Salafi Islam?

In the entire history of Islam, there has never been a single peaceful political movement to bring infidels into the fold. Infidels were/are/will be put to the sword. The Book prescribes their recommended torture and methods of execution, no less.

There is no danger of ideological peace breaking out in Pakistan anytime soon.
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SSridhar wrote:
Jhujar wrote:Punjabi Taliban call off armed struggle in Pakistan
We have to really understand this change of heart, if indeed it is true. There is something very fishy here.
attrition of LeJ to LeT or AQ? Consolidation under AQ of indian subcontinent? I am baffled to be honest.
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Yes very fishy especially when seen in combination with the army's quiescent approach during the Imran quadri drama... And zawahiris announcement of aq subcontinental branch, and ISILs pronouncements...

Good early signs that Islam is in danger in Pakistan...
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