Mangalyaan: ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission

member_28714 · Post by **member_28714** » 24 Sep 2014 20:29

Raja Bose wrote:
George wrote:All my life I've been hearing India is the sixth country after US, Russia, China UK and France to...

Today it went India is the fourth country after US, Russia, Europe (country?)

Its nice to see China absent.

I hope to die not before one day hearing India is the first country to.... for some major achievement. I can only help by paying taxes. Too noob to contribute.
India is the first country to succeed in its Mars mission on the very first attempt.There you go.

haha, of course yes.

maybe just one more first.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 24 Sep 2014 20:35

vina wrote:
Why CNN-IBN is showing MMS. We don't want to see him , hear him with coal tarred face. What a disgrace that pathetic chap is.
Well, that "pathetic chap" was the one who wanted the mission, okayed the plans, financed it and saw it launched.

He didn't do anything apart from hand over Indian taxpayers money..they and ISRO take the credit, if anything.

NYT is right. Modi has absolutely nothing to do with this other than the speech he gave today. That is fine . He is after all the elected PM of the day.

But let us not miss the wood for the trees and acknowledge the contributions made and who created this mission in the first place. Modi could have been more gracious and acknowledged MMS in is speech,when he spoke about Vajpayee and Chandrayaan.

Acknowledge the jerk who called him names, ran a corrupt empire and made a mockery out of the Indian state? Modi was gracious enough to allow MMS to attend the function. Anyone else would have ensured MMS was nowhere near the function.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 24 Sep 2014 20:35

vina wrote:
Why CNN-IBN is showing MMS. We don't want to see him , hear him with coal tarred face. What a disgrace that pathetic chap is.
Well, that "pathetic chap" was the one who wanted the mission, okayed the plans, financed it and saw it launched. NYT is right. Modi has absolutely nothing to do with this other than the speech he gave today. That is fine . He is after all the elected PM of the day.

But let us not miss the wood for the trees and acknowledge the contributions made and who created this mission in the first place. Modi could have been more gracious and acknowledged MMS in is speech,when he spoke about Vajpayee and Chandrayaan.

When Modi gave credit to Vajpayee for inspiring Chandrayaan, I expected him to mention MMS in passing for Mangalyaan. It would have been swell, if Modi had done that. Politics is nasty; and he missed that bus and played partisan politics. A tad disappointing that he did not take the high road.

I hope, at least we BRFites, don't bring MMS vs Modi; or Congress vs BJP into these discussions.

member_28108 · Post by **member_28108** » 24 Sep 2014 20:38

The Spacecraft is now circling Mars in an orbit whose nearest point to Mars (periapsis) is at 421.7 km and farthest point (apoapsis) at 76,993.6 km. The inclination of orbit with respect to the equatorial plane of Mars is 150 degree, as intended. In this orbit, the spacecraft takes 72 hours 51 minutes 51 seconds to go round the Mars once.

From ISRO website

Vashishtha · Post by **Vashishtha** » 24 Sep 2014 20:38

So when should we be expecting the first images from the Mars Color Camera(MCC) ?

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 24 Sep 2014 20:39

Madras school.. Courtesy NYTimes. Looks like a Girls school. good.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 24 Sep 2014 20:40

As Mangalyaan achieves success in its first attempt, pressure builds on it to settle and get married

New Delhi. As soon as Mangalyaan started orbiting Mars this morning after covering a distance of 670 million kilometers, thus achieving an envious professional milestone, pressure has started building on it to “settle down” by getting married.

Parents from different parts of the country, when asked for their reactions on Mangalyaan’s achievement, expressed their happiness, but quickly added that the Mars Orbiter should now focus on personal life.
Mangalyaan

Time to enter next phase of life.

“Covering 670 million kms is not less than completing engineering, and our Mangalyan finished it on time. That means without any year back,” Suresh Sharma, a concerned father of two told Faking News.

“I think it should either go for higher studies, or if it is happy with its current job, then it should marry,” Mr. Sharma said.

“You see, going for a higher studies could be good for Mangalyan’s career. As of now it’s just an orbiter, but after doing some PG course it may become a rover,” Mr. Sharma explained benefits of higher studies.

“But I think he shouldn’t take much professional tension, and get married now,” he added.

Anuradha Aunty, wife of Mr. Sharma, even suggested names of some possible life partners for Mangalyaan.

“NASA’s MAVEN is doing the same work what Mangalyaan is doing and is also from a respectable family. They will make a good couple. But if Mangalyaan goes for higher studies and become Mars Rover, then, I think we can target NASA’s Curiosity Rover,” said Sharma Aunty, showcasing her expertise in the matter.

Sharma Aunty predicted that if Mangalyaan and Curiosity Rover somehow fell in love with each other and got married, then it was quite possible that Mangalyaan could relocate to Mars surface without being a Mars Rover.

“All I want that Mangalyaan get married as soon as possible. Kab tak akele akele Mars ke chaaro or ghoomte rahega,” a visibly concerned Sharma Aunty concluded.

Not just parents, Mangalyaan is attracting interests of priests too as he appears to have settled professionally. Janardhan Chaturvedi, a celebrity priest who hosts a separate show of his on a news channel expressed his concerns about Mangalyaan being maanglik.

“There are many eligible satellites revolving around the Earth. But as they are not maanglik, we should avoid them and better look for Mars centred satellites,” Janardhan Chaturvedi suggested ISRO.

Meanwhile, a letter has been written by Hidustan Vivah Manch to Prime Minister Narendra Modi, urging him to discuss the prospects of wedding of Mangalyaan and MAVEN during his upcoming US visit.

“It is time for India and America to turn their dosti into rishtedaari,” commented head of Hidustan Vivah Manch.

Ankit Desai · Post by **Ankit Desai** » 24 Sep 2014 20:41

vina wrote:Modi has absolutely nothing to do with this other than the speech he gave today. That is fine . He is after all the elected PM of the day.

Modi was there not only by the capacity of PM but he is also minister of Department of Space. So he has more to do with it than just give speech like past PMs did.

-Ankit

vina · Post by **vina** » 24 Sep 2014 20:43

Karan M wrote: He didn't do anything apart from hand over Indian taxpayers money..they and ISRO take the credit, if anything.

Well, the Dept of Space reported directly to the Prime Minister. So MMS did conceive , vet , finance and saw the PSLV lift off with MoM all within challenging timelines. Do be gracious and give him his due.

Modi was gracious enough to allow MMS to attend the function. Anyone else would have ensured MMS was nowhere near the function.

What function ?

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 24 Sep 2014 20:50

Abhinandan to ISRO scientists and everyone who participated in the mission directly or indirectly. Huge achievement for Indians who could insert Mangalyaan to Mars orbit with precision on the first time.

Kripa of Swamy Venkateshwara at this achievement of high order.
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JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 24 Sep 2014 20:53

Dr. Balachandran tearing Sanjay Jha a new one on Times Now !!! "Bloody Rubbish" - Mallu grandpa about to lose his temper, clear the room everyone !!!! It's effing hilarious. "I'm amused that these people think they are talking something intelligent" ...

member_23658 · Post by **member_23658** » 24 Sep 2014 20:57

^ and Ornab concluded by saying "listen to him Sanjay and dont do that again. ok... listen to what he said and now dont repeat that again"

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 24 Sep 2014 21:01

VinaJi, with all due respect, cut the crap. MMS was the most shameful, disgraceful PM India every had. In fact, looking at him and his wordview, he has nothing, nadaz, zilch in common with those simpleton scientists and engineers gathered at ISRO. MMS more is more of a "house negro" for US/UK, and loving cousin of Pakijabis. It is Cong's shame that they could not find any other able leader than this disgraceful man.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 24 Sep 2014 21:05

SwamyG wrote:
matrimc wrote: That is prof. Yashpal if I am not wrong.
Nope.

Got it. you are referring to the scientists who are at the mission controls stations - not those sitting in visitors area.

Anurag · Post by **Anurag** » 24 Sep 2014 21:06

Link to that timesnow debate please?

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 24 Sep 2014 21:08

vina wrote:
Why CNN-IBN is showing MMS. We don't want to see him , hear him with coal tarred face. What a disgrace that pathetic chap is.
Well, that "pathetic chap" was the one who wanted the mission, okayed the plans, financed it and saw it launched. NYT is right. Modi has absolutely nothing to do with this other than the speech he gave today. That is fine . He is after all the elected PM of the day.

But let us not miss the wood for the trees and acknowledge the contributions made and who created this mission in the first place. Modi could have been more gracious and acknowledged MMS in is speech,when he spoke about Vajpayee and Chandrayaan.

When Modi gave credit to Vajpayee for inspiring Chandrayaan, I expected him to mention MMS in passing for Mangalyaan. It would have been swell, if Modi had done that. Politics is nasty; and he missed that bus and played partisan politics. A tad disappointing that he did not take the high road.

SwamyG wrote: I hope, at least we BRFites, don't bring MMS vs Modi; or Congress vs BJP into these discussions.

I didn't expect MMS to talk about it after keeping Maun vrata for 10 years and busy doing /allowing others to do scams after scams.''' CWG, CoalG , 2G, 3G, 4G ( remember it ) SG, RG, PG, IG and so on so forth. The credit goes all to ISRO . MMS was busy doing $G there.

It was conceived by ISRO and was in three+ years in preparation as a result of success of Chandrayaan which was the idea proposed by ABV.MMS is insipid, lacks inspiration and new ideas. he could not have spoken of it first. MMS merely announced it from Red fort to avert attention from scams or like a doorman announcing arrival of guests.

UPrabhu · Post by **UPrabhu** » 24 Sep 2014 21:10

JE Menon wrote:Dr. Balachandran tearing Sanjay Jha a new one on Times Now !!! "Bloody Rubbish" - Mallu grandpa about to lose his temper, clear the room everyone !!!! It's effing hilarious. "I'm amused that these people think they are talking something intelligent" ...

I always look forward to Dr. Balachandran on News Hour. He was super during Kudankulam issue.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 24 Sep 2014 21:16

Photu dekhne ko mangta yaar.......chodo palitiks ko ek din ke liye.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 24 Sep 2014 21:17

OK pls end the OT political discussions (I plead guilty too)... Let's keep focus on MOM.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 24 Sep 2014 21:21

SBajwa wrote:What is the life of the orbiter? How many years/months?

Supposed to be six months. But probably would be a little longer that mom has more fuel.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 24 Sep 2014 21:22

vina wrote:
Karan M wrote: He didn't do anything apart from hand over Indian taxpayers money..they and ISRO take the credit, if anything.
Well, the Dept of Space reported directly to the Prime Minister. So MMS did conceive , vet , finance and saw the PSLV lift off with MoM all within challenging timelines. Do be gracious and give him his due.

Modi was gracious enough to allow MMS to attend the function. Anyone else would have ensured MMS was nowhere near the function.
What function ?

Like foreign policy, space policy is also a product of national consensus and there has been continuity in all administrations. It started with visioNaries like Sarabhai who persuaded Nehru.

We should take pride in robust civilizational memes and go beyond petty focus on personalities.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 24 Sep 2014 21:22

mr gin: club class vision
math guru: universe, multiverse, string...

Anurag · Post by **Anurag** » 24 Sep 2014 21:26

Link to the timesnow debate?

UPrabhu · Post by **UPrabhu** » 24 Sep 2014 21:30

Why can't ISRO raise the periapsis to above synchronous orbit and leave the satellite in unmaintained orbit beyond six months? No reaction wheels on the spacecraft for attitude control?

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 24 Sep 2014 21:31

that bbc/nyt article MUTU saying modi has nothing to do with this is as good as saying any Indians has anything to do with this. does he not represent the nation from a prime spot? ask that MUTU to jump into thames river.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 24 Sep 2014 21:33

As a respite from the western press, here's some interesting news from PRC:
http://world.huanqiu.com/exclusive/2014-09/5149149.html (needs Google Translate)

The Chinese pronounce the Mars craft's name as Man Jia Lian . Looks like they did not get the memo on soft g vs hard g .

Asian reporting is generally positive and admiring. Credit given as due.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 24 Sep 2014 21:38

Headlines from Non-Indian sources

'A Shining Symbol': India's Mars Orbiter Mission Goes Into Orbit (NBC News)
Far-Out Feat: India's Mars Orviter Mission Goes Into Orbit (NBC News)
On a Shoestring, India Sends Orbiter to Mars (NY Times)
India makes history with successful Mars Orbiter Mission (Salon.com)
India's MOM spacecraft arrives at Mars (NASASpaceflight.com)
India's low-cost space mission reaches Mars orbit(RT.com)
India's Mars Orbiter Mission Arrives Safely (Sky & Telescope)
India puts spacecraft into orbit around Mars (Foxs News)
India's spacecraft orbits Mars successfully – and it cost less to send it there than Hollywood spent on making Gravity {Daily Mail UK}
India successfully puts spacecraft in Mar's Orbit (Yahoo News)
India becomes first Asian nation to reach Mars orbit, joins elite global space club (washington Post)
Mangalyaan: India's race for space success (BBC News)
India's first Mars satellite 'Mangalyaan' enters orbit (BBC News)
India gets low-cost orbiter to Mars for just $75 million (France24)
India wins Asia’s Mars race as spacecraft enters orbit (Capital News Kenya)
India's giant interplanetary leap to Mars (Aljazeera.com)
India's Satellite Makes It to Mars (Mashable)
India’s first Mars satellite enters orbit, costing just 11% of NASA’s own Mars mission (Extreme Tech)
India makes history with successful maiden voyage to Mars(Telegraph UK)
India triumphs in maiden Mars mission, sets record in space race (Reuters)
India's Mangalyaan space probe enters Mars orbit (Deutsche Welle)
In a first, India puts spacecraft in Martian orbit (Christian Science Monitor)
India Beats China to Mars Orbit at 11% Cost of U.S. Probe (Bloomberg)
History Created as India Dares Unknown and Achieves Near Impossible – MOM Successfully Arrives in Mars Orbit (Universe Today)
Mars mission opens India for space business (SFGate)
India's Bargain Cost Mars Mission Mangalyaan Triumphs, Successfully Slides Into Mars Orbit (Forbes)
India becomes the first Asian country to reach Mars (Ars Technica)
India has sent a spacecraft into Mars Orbit (Time)
India Satellite Reaches Mars Orbit on First Try (Wall Street Journal)
India's First Mars Probe Makes Historic Red Planet Arrival (Space.com)
How India beat China to Mars (for less than the cost of a Hollywood movie) (Christian Science Monitor)
Breakthroughs without the big bucks: India's Mars orbiter, $1 microscopes (BetaBoston)
India proudly wins Asia's race to Mars (Taipei Times)

Added: The power of words & planting ideas was once again reiterated by Modi. He articulated the fact that MoM costed less than the movie 'Gravity'. It is a 'hook' that even the Western press is glad to use. And that idea is getting entrenched and picked up by millions around the globe.

member_28108 · Post by **member_28108** » 24 Sep 2014 21:39

Anyone knows any reason why there is a delay in showing the images ?

Sonugn · Post by **Sonugn** » 24 Sep 2014 21:41

Mallu channels reporting that images have been received in good quality & that camera is in excellent condition

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 24 Sep 2014 21:42

matrimc wrote: Got it. you are referring to the scientists who are at the mission controls stations - not those sitting in visitors area.

Yes.....lots of them were outright communal. I noticed this gentleman because of the three stripes.

partha · Post by **partha** » 24 Sep 2014 21:44

prasannasimha wrote:Anyone knows any reason why there is a delay in showing the images ?

Post processing. Processed photos have been sent to PMO.
To answer your earlier question on RGB24/32, it will be difficult to guess the internal implementation. It depends on many factors - memory structure, image format etc.

member_23370 · Post by **member_23370** » 24 Sep 2014 21:46

Raja Bose wrote:
Raja wrote:Well, I have to say that after the very initial article from BBC with the typical "poor bla bla" attached in the end, they have done a pretty good coverage. All the subsequent articles seem to indicate a change in perspective. For example, this one even criticizes such patronizing criticism: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29341850
Do we care?

Exactly!!!

As far as I am concerned ..Jalne wale thera muh kala....

member_28108 · Post by **member_28108** » 24 Sep 2014 21:46

Current data rate churned by MOM according to DSN website is 40kb/sec to both receivers at Canberra.

member_23370 · Post by **member_23370** » 24 Sep 2014 21:47

harbans wrote:Actually the Chandrayaan, MOM and many other ISRO missions prove one thing: It's not India that is wasting money in Space, it's the West. 700 Million USD to get to what India can get to for 70 Million clearly indicated it's not India that is wasting money. Time US/Europe and those that crib over toilets and poverty put their money where their mouth is and tell their Govts you're wasting money when India can do it cheaper. No?

And pay McDonald employees $15/hr..

member_28108 · Post by **member_28108** » 24 Sep 2014 21:47

Sonugn wrote:Mallu channels reporting that images have been received in good quality & that camera is in excellent condition

5 photos were recieved a few hours before.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 24 Sep 2014 21:49

No photu yet? Allah ke Nam pe release karo Baba..

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 24 Sep 2014 21:49

Time for noob questions
1. Is the camera oriented only towards Mars?
2. I believe there is a comet which comes close to Mars. Is there any plan to study it.

partha · Post by **partha** » 24 Sep 2014 21:54

5 photos have been sent to PMO. It's only a matter of time before they are released to the public.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 24 Sep 2014 22:04

vina wrote: Well, the Dept of Space reported directly to the Prime Minister. So MMS did conceive , vet , finance and saw the PSLV lift off with MoM all within challenging timelines. Do be gracious and give him his due.

bwahahaha...

try harder.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 24 Sep 2014 22:08

MOM Success and MAVEN success

Please post this in facebook and Twitter side by side