Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct 2014

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Dipanker wrote:Iranian guards kill Pakistani soldier near border
QUETTA: Iranian border guards attacked a vehicle of Frontier Corps, a para-military force, inside Pakistani territory killing one personnel and injured another three on Friday morning.

Khan Wasey, the Spokesman FC told Dawn.com that Iranian border guards have been violating Pakistani territory since the past two days. He said the FC's vehicle was also damaged during the attack.
Al Ham Sandwich and Marshmellow ! Brotherly fellow Islamic Republic Iran does unto Pakistan what Kaafir Hindu India is doing unto Pakistan :lol:
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Anujan wrote: If you ask the SDREs on why arms supply to Pakistan should be cut off, each SDRE will make a long logical argument, using different words, different ideas, different set of logical arguments. While they'll all be well argued, it is all very tiring to follow each of them, remember the argument and be convinced by them. If you ask a typical Pakistani abdul on why Pakistan is training and sending terrorists everywhere, he/she will reply with a straight face "Pakistan itself is a victim of terrorism". In some ways, we are victims of our own intelligence. We tend to pack arguments with nuance. A typical pakistani with IQ in the low 90's will parrot the same set of words. If you observe closely, "Pakistan itself victim of terrorism" has permeated even the discourse in the west. Even Motorma fair, sane people like Lisa Curtis, Panetta, Kerry and so on manage to squeeze it in. "Pakistan itself is a victim of terrorism...."
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Good chow for the learned Maulanas here...
AXIS OF NATIONAL SECURITY
Too long to keep quoting...
Edit.....oops....article too old - from June!
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Rahul M wrote:from my FB timeline :

2 countries became independent in 1947.
it is now 2014. one of those countries has reached mars.
the other is still trying to enter India ! :mrgreen:
Only one country became independent, 'the other group' got a piece of land in bhik. I say the other group because it's not a nation entity, just a mafia..
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Jivana, it is a piece of real-estate. That's all.

And, welcome to BRf, by the way.
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Army razes 19 terrorist camps in PoK :
The army has destroyed 19 terrorist camps in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK) while retaliating to unprovoked firing on civilians in Jammu and Kashmir by Pakistan forces.

This was disclosed in a report submitted to Defence Minister Arun Jaitley by General Dalbir Singh Suhag.
Free Press Journal
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"Targets of opportunity"! Great to see a pro-active response from the new GOI.
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arun wrote:Army razes 19 terrorist camps in PoK :
The army has destroyed 19 terrorist camps in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK) while retaliating to unprovoked firing on civilians in Jammu and Kashmir by Pakistan forces.

This was disclosed in a report submitted to Defence Minister Arun Jaitley by General Dalbir Singh Suhag.
Free Press Journal
Aha! Lightbulb moment. Now it is clear why Pakis have been squealing so much. Also explains this gratuitous bravado from Sartaj Aziz

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/india-cannot ... 23-56.html
Pakistan on Thursday said that India cannot afford to carry out "surgical strikes" inside the country as it is aware of Pakistan's response to any such action.
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There was a glorious statement from Gen.Bandicoot,"Mush-a-rat",the ex-ex-ex of Pak,infamous loser of the Kargil War,venting his spleen at India over Pak's cross-border shelling and the robust Indian response.The 'coot that Pak "knows how to attack from the front and the back"!

Of course! The Pakis are the acknowledged rent boy of the region,bending over backwards and acting as the region's "public convenience" especially for its all-weather patrons the US and China.The Brits,who love the Pakis dearly,from their well-known predeliction that afflicts many of their public schools,perhaps prefer being attacked from behind rather than attack themselves! hence Gen.Bandicoot's bluff and backside bluster.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-29661340
When it comes to Islamic clerics in Pakistan, few are more senior than Hafiz Tahir Ashrafi. His opinion on Islamic scripture is sought by the nation's lawmakers. But this is a country where it is illegal for Muslims to drink alcohol, so it's unsurprising that his apparently intoxicated appearance on a late night talk show has caused controversy. He made a seemingly slurred speech criticizing the moral conduct of Pakistani cricketer-turned-politician Imran Khan. As he spoke, one of the TV hosts visibly tried to hide his amusement.
The linked video is hilarious :mrgreen:
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Iranian border guards fire mortar shells inside Pakistani territory - DAWN
Iranian border guards on Saturday fired three mortar shells in Mashkail, Pakistan's bordering town with Iran, officials said.

A security official who requested anonymity told Dawn that mortar shells fired by Iranian guards landed in deserted areas close to the sparsely populated Balochistan's Mashkail town.

"The mortar shell attack caused panic among the people," the official said, adding that Frontier Corps (FC) and Levies personnel reached the spot and security was tightened around the border.

No casualty was reported in the attack, the official added.

Today's shelling came hours after a junior officer of the FC was killed in an attack by Iranian border forces in Mand area of Balochistan's Kech district. Four FC personnel were injured.

Moreover, the Balochistan government demanded that the centre take up the issue of continued border violations by Iranian border guards with the Iranian foreign office.

Jan Muhammad Buledi, spokesman for the Balochistan government, stated that Iran had been violating Pakistani territory and attacking civilians for the past three days. Buledi has demanded Islamabad to take up this issue with the Iranian foreign office and lodge a formal protest in this regard.

Earlier on Friday, the Iranian border guards had stormed inside the Mand area of Balochistan and had attacked a vehicle of Frontier Corps, killing one soldier and injuring three others.

Khan Wasay, a spokesman for FC troops in Balochistan, told Dawn that at least 30 Iranian border guards had entered into Pakistan's bordering town of Nokundi and made the residents hostage for six hours.


"We have sent a formal letter to Islamabad regarding Iranian intervention and violation," Akbar Hussain Durrani, Secretary Home and Tribal Affairs Department Balochistan told Dawn.

Durrani said the provincial government had taken up the matter seriously and urged the capital to raise this issue with Tehran.
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Anujan wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-29661340
When it comes to Islamic clerics in Pakistan, few are more senior than Hafiz Tahir Ashrafi. His opinion on Islamic scripture is sought by the nation's lawmakers. But this is a country where it is illegal for Muslims to drink alcohol, so it's unsurprising that his apparently intoxicated appearance on a late night talk show has caused controversy. He made a seemingly slurred speech criticizing the moral conduct of Pakistani cricketer-turned-politician Imran Khan. As he spoke, one of the TV hosts visibly tried to hide his amusement.
The linked video is hilarious :mrgreen:
This is not the first story about this particular Sunni Deobandi Mohammadden Clerics drunken antics. Almost exactly two years back there was a story of this very same Mohammadden Cleric, Tahir Ashrafi, getting drunk at an event at the German Embassy, puking on himself, passing out and then covering up his drunkenness, with the help of the ISI, by claiming to have been abducted after being injected with an intoxicating substane :lol: :

Mystery of Tahir Ashrafi’s kidnapping: This is how they distort history
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The “Good” Haqqani’s wife, Farahnaz Ispahani writing in CNN:

Pakistan is sliding toward extremism
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Harsh V Pant reckons that Prime Minister Modi has got it right when it comes to the Islamic Republic Of Pakistan.
Smart policy for India means not being stuck between the talking/not talking binary. It's not talking that matters but under whose terms - and after years of ceding the initiative to Pakistan, it is now for India to dictate the terms for negotiations.

Modi has done well to remind Pakistan that India indeed has the capability to impose serious costs in response to Pakistan's escalatory tactics
On Pakistan, Good Start By PM Modi
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Yet another top honor for pakisatan. islam-a-bad airport has been rated best of the worst. :D

Guide to Sleeping in Airports’ top 10 worst airports

1. Islamabad Benazir Bhutto international airport, Pakistan (ISB)

2. Jeddah King Abdulzaziz international airport, Saudi Arabia (JED)

3. Kathmandu Tribhuvan international airport, Nepal (KTM)

4. Manila Ninoy Aquino international airport, Philippines (MNL)

5. Tashkent international airport, Uzbekistan (TAS)

6. Paris Beauvais-Tille international airport, France (BVA)

7. Frankfurt Hahn international airport, Germany (HHN)

8. Bergamo Orio al Serio international airport, Italy (BGY)

9. Berlin Tegel international airport, Germany (TXL)

10. New York City LaGuardia international airport, USA (LGA)
Islamabad replaces Manila at top of list of world’s worst airports
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AnujanJi, in military terms what is a terrorist camp? And how difficult would it be restore such a camp once destroyed. To my lay mind, physically eliminating terrorists and leadership is one thing, but what is a camp?
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CRamS wrote:AnujanJi, in military terms what is a terrorist camp? And how difficult would it be restore such a camp once destroyed. To my lay mind, physically eliminating terrorists and leadership is one thing, but what is a camp?
Dunno - but what one might expect a camp to have -
1. barracks/lodgings
2. armory, other supplies
3. training apparatus, firing range
4. communications hub?
5. sentry posts, fences, ......
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A_GuptaJi,

Question though is how decapitating it is to TSP by destroying a camp with all the logistic capabilities you listed?

One thing that can make a significant dent. A few days back we were talking about US help in taking on TSP. One thing is crippling sanctions. If not that, then does US not have the drone technology and other capabilities to say knock out the entire Murdike headquarters of the pigLeTs? In fact, given how many "bad terrorists" US has eliminated through HumInt and drones, I would think US can take out Murdike one fine morning when Hafeez pig is in there preaching to the faithful. That would deal a significant blow to TSP.
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CRamS, let us just say that any small action taken by India is far more significant than action taken by the US.

Secondly, from Mahatma Gandhi saying - let's decide whether there should be Pakistan after the British leave, to the Simla Agreement to the current day Modi policies, the Indian effort has been to reduce the Pakistan problem to a two-body problem, i.e., Congress v. Muslim League with no British, or India-Pakistan with no UN, etc., etc. No need to wish counter to that and make it a three-body problem again.
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arun wrote:[*quote="Anujan"]http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-29661340
When it comes to Islamic clerics in Pakistan, few are more senior than Hafiz Tahir Ashrafi. His opinion on Islamic scripture is sought by the nation's lawmakers. But this is a country where it is illegal for Muslims to drink alcohol, so it's unsurprising that his apparently intoxicated appearance on a late night talk show has caused controversy. He made a seemingly slurred speech criticizing the moral conduct of Pakistani cricketer-turned-politician Imran Khan. As he spoke, one of the TV hosts visibly tried to hide his amusement.
The linked video is hilarious :mrgreen:[*/quote]

This is not the first story about this particular Sunni Deobandi Mohammadden Clerics drunken antics. Almost exactly two years back there was a story of this very same Mohammadden Cleric, Tahir Ashrafi, getting drunk at an event at the German Embassy, puking on himself, passing out and then covering up his drunkenness, with the help of the ISI, by claiming to have been abducted after being injected with an intoxicating substane :lol: :

Mystery of Tahir Ashrafi’s kidnapping: This is how they distort history
:rotfl: The faces of the anchors in that video...... priceless
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Apparently Bad Sharif spoke and said that there wont be any peace in the region till "Cashmere" is solved. Army general who is an expert in foreign policy! Wonder what his prescriptions are to contain the Ebola outbreak and what India should be looking for in Mars.
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A_Gupta wrote:
CRamS wrote:AnujanJi, in military terms what is a terrorist camp? And how difficult would it be restore such a camp once destroyed. To my lay mind, physically eliminating terrorists and leadership is one thing, but what is a camp?
Dunno - but what one might expect a camp to have -
1. barracks/lodgings
2. armory, other supplies
3. training apparatus, firing range
4. communications hub?
5. sentry posts, fences, ......
since this is pakistan,
6. Goat farm
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^^ He already covered it in Point 1(Bedrooms and lodging).
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Karachiites face serious Ebola threat as govt hospitals ignore WHO guidelines
KARACHI: Pakistanis, especially Karachiites, fear a serious outbreak of Ebola virus as the government-run hospitals lack funds, manpower, training and technical resources to follow the guidelines, as it is apprehended that Karachi being the port city of the country might be the first target of the dreaded virus.
World Health Organization (WHO) has already warned that Ebola virus might spread to Pakistan sooner or later.
WHO Representative in Pakistan Dr Michel Thieren says that since Ebola virus was spreading faster across the world, Pakistan was also at a high risk of it. He suggested Pakistan government to take speedy precautionary measures and steps against the deadly disease.
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What would India do if a faithfool brings in the Ebola or Polio knowingly / with malicious intent? Would that be considered biological warfare? Ebola in particular can rapidly spawn an epidemic situation, given the crowded Indian conditions and Ebola's extreme infectivity and virulence. Wonder how the pakis will rationalize this one - one man's unfortunate illness is another man's biological warfare?
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Mush Jale Tho Jale
Modi calls Karzai a special friend to India
NEW DELHI – India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi has said that former president of Afghanistan Hamid Karzai will always remain a special friend of India for his efforts to strengthen relations with India.In a statement issued by the Prime Minister’s Office, Modi hailed the former Afghan president for his efforts to strengthen bilateral relations between India and Afghanistan. Karzai was hailed for his effort to steer Afghanistan on the path of peace, prosperity and stability and ensuring a historic and peaceful political transition.“The way Mr Karzai had successfully steered Afghanistan on the path of peace, prosperity and stability during a very difficult period, would never be forgotten,” Modi told Karzai in a telephone conversation. Karzai said that he deeply cherishes his long association with India and observed that no other country in the world had done as much for Afghanistan as India had despite constraints of resources.The Indian prime minister has previously spoken to Afghan President Asraf Ghani and Chief Executive Officer Dr Abdullah Abdullah.
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Rahul M wrote:from my FB timeline :
2 countries became independent in 1947.
it is now 2014. one of those countries has reached mars.
the other is still trying to enter India ! :mrgreen:
Sad day for forum when Pakistan is called, considered country by Count BRFcula.
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Guys, what a coincidence, I just took my 2000 Toyota (126K miles) Corolla car for an oil change + tune up to a local gas station and auto repair shop owned by an Afghnai. Had a great chat with him while working. He told me everything about US & TSP that we know, but I got the biggest kick when he said he hopes one day India will eat up TSP for good :-). Man, he is a Pashtoon, a Karzai supporter, and boy does he hate TSP with passion :-). And he is as passionate to see US go.

I just don't understand how is it that 9/11 was such a grand opportunity for India & US & Afghanistan to be on the same page visa vi TSP, but how things took such a dramatic course that India & Afghanistan would be on one side, and TSP & US will be on the other.
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arun wrote:The “Good” Haqqani’s wife, Farahnaz Ispahani writing in CNN:

Pakistan is sliding toward extremism
That is one long slide!! They have been sliding on it since 1947.
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Pakis are PIOs is the new Pakis are South Asians. :rotfl:
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Anujan wrote:
arun wrote:The “Good” Haqqani’s wife, Farahnaz Ispahani writing in CNN:

Pakistan is sliding toward extremism
That is one long slide!! They have been sliding on it since 1947.
Steep, long and wide slopes are good for downhill skiing; than gentle, short narrow slopes! :D
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Sorry if posted before:

Iran ends cooperation agreement with Pakistan
Iran has unilaterally ended the government-to-government cooperation agreement with Pakistan, and after this decision the much-talked-about Iran-Pakistan IP gas pipeline project has become unfeasible, sources told Daily Times.

A copy of official documents seen by Daily Times disclosed that the Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Resources on October 2 revealed to the federal cabinet’s ECC that Iran has unilaterally ended government-to-government cooperation agreement with Pakistan and is not even prepared to offer $500 million for the construction of the long-awaited IP gas pipeline project. With this decision the IP gas pipeline project, in its present form, has become not feasible.
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Harish wrote:What would India do if a faithfool brings in the Ebola or Polio knowingly / with malicious intent? Would that be considered biological warfare? Ebola in particular can rapidly spawn an epidemic situation, given the crowded Indian conditions and Ebola's extreme infectivity and virulence. Wonder how the pakis will rationalize this one - one man's unfortunate illness is another man's biological warfare?
Please remember Pakistan itself is a victim biological warfare. Firstly it was the Polio virus and now it is the Ebola virus. Pakistan has already paid a high price for biological warfare. Despite offering shahadat of over 40,000 polio workers and billions of dollars of losses, Pakistan continues to be the front line ally in the spread of biological warfare.
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CRamS wrote:Guys, what a coincidence, I just took my 2000 Toyota (126K miles) Corolla car for an oil change + tune up to a local gas station and auto repair shop owned by an Afghnai. Had a great chat with him while working. He told me everything about US & TSP that we know, but I got the biggest kick when he said he hopes one day India will eat up TSP for good :-). Man, he is a Pashtoon, a Karzai supporter, and boy does he hate TSP with passion :-). And he is as passionate to see US go.
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Why does he want to see the US go? Without the U.S., the Taliban (and Pakistan by implication) will roll right back in.
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CRamS wrote:Guys, what a coincidence, I just took my 2000 Toyota (126K miles) Corolla car for an oil change + tune up to a local gas station and auto repair shop owned by an Afghnai. Had a great chat with him while working. He told me everything about US & TSP that we know, but I got the biggest kick when he said he hopes one day India will eat up TSP for good :-). Man, he is a Pashtoon, a Karzai supporter, and boy does he hate TSP with passion :-). And he is as passionate to see US go.

I just don't understand how is it that 9/11 was such a grand opportunity for India & US & Afghanistan to be on the same page visa vi TSP, but how things took such a dramatic course that India & Afghanistan would be on one side, and TSP & US will be on the other.
Arguably, one of the worst strategic blunders in US history. Bush/Powell trusted Mushfraf and the ISI to deliver Afghanistan and the Taliban.

US media acted as if Pakistan had no role in setting up the Taliban Afghanistan and was still a CENTO ally. Bush allowed the Kunduz Airlift. Republicans members of Congress praised the Pakistan to the heavens while trashing India.

In fact, in 1994 the Wall Street Journal had cheered the rise of the Taliban.

Not sure if India would have been willing, but using Indian forces to hunt for bin Laden and sending the likes of the ITBP into Kabul might have changed the course of history.
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X-post from the Iran thread

From nyt
Pakistan Demands Answers After Officer Is Killed on Iran Border
By SALMAN MASOOD
OCTOBER 18, 2014
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — The Pakistan government summoned the Iranian ambassador Saturday to protest the killing of a Pakistani security official by Iranian border guards, an official said.

“The Iranian ambassador was summoned, a protest was lodged and an investigation was demanded into the killing of our security official,” Tasnim Aslam, the spokeswoman for the Pakistani ministry of foreign affairs, said in an interview on Saturday.

A Pakistani paramilitary officer was killed and four soldiers were wounded after their vehicle came under fire from Iranian border guards in Kech district of Baluchistan, the southwestern Pakistani province that borders Iran, according to Pakistani officials. Dozens of Iranian border guards also raided a village in Chagai, another district of Baluchistan.

Tensions have been growing between the neighboring countries after recent allegations by Iranian officials that Sunni militants based in Baluchistan have been mounting strikes against bases and border posts inside Iranian territory.

Pakistani officials have dismissed the allegations and have asked for evidence from Iran.

“If Iran has evidence that elements from Pakistan are involved in activities against Iran, they should share it with us,” Ms. Aslam said Friday during a weekly press briefing. “Our information is that these incidents took place inside Iranian territory by Iranians and that is corroborated by their own accounts. It is not helpful to externalize problems,” Ms. Aslam said.

On Saturday, the situation at the border remained volatile. Provincial officials in Pakistan said Iranian soldiers launched five mortar shells at a Pakistani security post in the Mashkel area of Baluchistan. No casualties were reported.

The border problems with Iran come as Pakistan is also facing growing tensions with India on its eastern border. In recent weeks both countries have accused each other of initiating shooting and mortar attacks along the disputed border of Kashmir. At least 17 people have died and dozens have been wounded this month as Pakistani and Indian forces traded fire on both sides of the Kashmir frontier.

On Saturday, the Pakistani army chief, Gen. Raheel Sharif, speaking during a parade of army cadets in the northern town of Abbottabad, vowed to defend the country against external aggression, although he did not specifically name any countries.

“Sentiments of good will and amity notwithstanding, let there be no doubt that any aggression against our beloved country will get a befitting response and no sacrifice will be too great in this sacred cause,” Gen. Sharif said. “We desire regional stability and relationship based on equality and mutual respect.”
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Arguably, one of the worst strategic blunders in US history. Bush/Powell trusted Mushfraf and the ISI to deliver Afghanistan and the Taliban.
US media acted as if Pakistan had no role in setting up the Taliban Afghanistan and was still a CENTO ally. Bush allowed the Kunduz Airlift. Republicans members of Congress praised the Pakistan to the heavens while trashing India.
In fact, in 1994 the Wall Street Journal had cheered the rise of the Taliban.
Not sure if India would have been willing, but using Indian forces to hunt for bin Laden and sending the likes of the ITBP into Kabul might have changed the course of history
This was the most visible of US policy blunders. The villains behind it are many:
1. Stephen Cohen, (not the smart one who talks about Ukraine, but the 'South Asia Expert' aka Uneven). He used to proclaim on his Brookings website that his greatest claim to fame was that he persuaded the GOTUS to go with Musharraf.

2. NSA Rice: a political appointee climber with lousy qualifications, who rose to a top admin position on account of her race and gender and willingness to stab colleagues in the back. As 404 as they get about 'South Asia' and Islamist realities.
3. WHOTUS Chief of Staff Armitage. He is the one who dissed the military's expression of readiness to finish off TSP the day on 9/12, and made the deal with Musharraf's ISI chief who had come to DC so he could sit across from the Pentagon watching the strike on the Pentagon, and (hoping) the strike on the COTUS. They should have put him in Guantanamo first.
4. VP D1ck Cheney. He had all the baksheesh ties to the Pakis.
5. Defense Sec. Rumsfeld. Ditto
6. US Chief of Staff Colin Bin Powell, later SoS. Ditto.
Same gang then went and invaded Iraq.

To his credit, our friend TSJ here was the one who predicted with total accuracy what stupid course the GOTUS would take. :evil:
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct

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Peregrine wrote:Karachiites face serious Ebola threat as govt hospitals ignore WHO guidelines
KARACHI: Pakistanis, especially Karachiites, fear a serious outbreak of Ebola virus as the government-run hospitals lack funds, manpower, training and technical resources to follow the guidelines, as it is apprehended that Karachi being the port city of the country might be the first target of the dreaded virus.
World Health Organization (WHO) has already warned that Ebola virus might spread to Pakistan sooner or later.
WHO Representative in Pakistan Dr Michel Thieren says that since Ebola virus was spreading faster across the world, Pakistan was also at a high risk of it. He suggested Pakistan government to take speedy precautionary measures and steps against the deadly disease.
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Shouldnt cockroaches sorry Krachities worry more aboutt polio than Ebola?
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