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KrishnaK wrote: Without western demand, all developing economies will be about as dead too. Russia will have nobody to sell oil to.
Thats what the Economist wants you to think. And you thunked it.
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George wrote:India and China could account for 30% of oil consumption by 2020. Imagine if the dollar is kept out of that chunk. This is Putins angle. Will be awesome if it works.
http://bharata-bhuti.blogspot.com/2014/ ... s-v20.html
This will setup a Oil/Gas network stretching from Iran-India-China-Russia-Japan. This will connect two major suppliers with three major customers. At current rates this is a $500-600B energy grid completely liberating Asia from Western energy politics. India & China can balance each other supply routes by controlling their grids.
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Austin wrote:Interview with Russian National Security Adviser

Top Spymaster Explains How Russian Intelligence Sees the US

Russia’s post 1999 Revival and its forging Alliances with China, India and the other BRICS Has Alarmed the US

After 7-8 August 2008, when the Georgian leadership, with US support, attempted to annihilate South Ossetia, the world once again changed substantially.

Everything was staked on surprise. The Georgian dictator believed that a military incursion on the opening day of the international Olympic Games would put Russia in a difficult position, and the Georgians, taking advantage of this, would carry out their “blitzkrieg”. However, the Russian leadership reacted promptly to the sharp deterioration in the situation and the necessary measures were adopted to halt the aggression.

After the August events in the Caucasus, Washington was clearly alarmed by Russia’s obvious intention to take its place among the world powers of the 21st century and uphold the principle of equal opportunities and full autonomy in global politics. And also to convert the state’s financial income from the exploitation of natural resources into real economic and defence potential and human capital.

The American leadership clearly also disliked the prospects of Russia’s collaboration with China and India, the introduction of the practice of summits in the BRICS format, the successful activity of other organizations in which Russia occupies leading positions (the CSTO [Collective Security Treaty Organization], the SCO [Shanghai Cooperation Organization], and the EAEC [Eurasian Economic Community]), and the formation of the Customs Union.

In the context of the growing world financial and economic crisis, major new players in the international arena such as the PRC, India, Brazil, and Iran as well as the growing economies of Southeast Asia and South Korea became increasingly significant factors for the United States. Hence, incidentally, the emergence of new conceptual principles such as the American-Chinese special partnership, the strategic collaboration between the United States and India, the establishment of direct dialogue between Washington and Iran, and so forth.

Indications of the need to resume the beneficial dialogue with Russia on a whole range of issues began to emerge from the new administration of President Barack Obama. This positive inclination on the part of the American authorities could only be welcomed.

However, it soon became clear that Washington is not inclined towards real cooperation. It confined itself to mere statements of friendliness and the devising of certain negotiation tracks from which the benefit to Russia, in the end, proved almost zero. After a while even totally nonbinding positive dialogues of this kind came to an end and the US attitude towards our country began once again to be reminiscent of cold war times.

The US aims to gain Control of Russia’s Energy, Food and Water Resources to Seal its Domination


……specialists are certain that no real substitute for hydrocarbons as the basis of power generation will emerge in the next few decades. Furthermore the understanding prevails in the West that the total capacity of nuclear, hydro, wind, solar, and other power stations will meet no more than one-fifth of world demand.

Nor should another important aspect be forgotten. In the modern world we can observe a steady growth in the shortage of food and drinking water for the growing population of the planet. The absence of the most elementary means of existence pushes desperate people into manifestations of extremism and involvement in terrorism, piracy, and crime. This is one reason for the acute conflicts between countries and regions and also for mass migration.

The shortage of water and irrigated land is not infrequently the cause of friction, for instance, between the Central Asian republics. The problem of water resources is acute in a number of other countries in Asia and particularly in Africa.

Many American experts, in particular former US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, assert that there are vast territories “under Moscow’s power” that it is incapable of exploiting and which therefore “do not serve the interests of all humanity”. Assertions continue to be heard about the “unfair” distribution of natural resources and the need to ensure so-called “free access” to them for other states.

The Americans are convinced that people must be thinking in similar terms in many other states, particularly those neighbouring on Russia, and that in the future they will, as is nowadays the custom, form “coalitions” to support the corresponding claims on our country. As in the case of Ukraine, it is proposed to resolve problems at Russia’s expense but without taking its interests into account.
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KrishnaK wrote: Image
Without western demand, all developing economies will be about as dead too. Russia will have nobody to sell oil to.

:rotfl: Ever heard of China, India, Africa? Also, EU =/= US. US demand will be there too.
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Without western demand, all developing economies will be about as dead too. Russia will have nobody to sell oil to.

:rotfl: Ever heard of China, India, Africa? Also, EU =/= US. US demand will be there too



There is a old joke.( wife say to husband--- If I wouldn't born whom you would have got married).
If Russia supply india oil and gas with out any problem at lower price then why we have to buy from others. (Where always politics and conditions.)
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http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... s11%2F10RS
( Actually about Putin fixation)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... mTyt_A#t=4
The first unspoken rule of diplomacy might be "Don't hit on the president's wife," but Russia's newly single president Vladimir Putin seems to have missed the memo. Leaders of 21 Asia-Pacific nations including Russia have converged upon Beijing for the annual Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit, slated to run through Nov. 11. At an APEC event held on the evening of Nov. 10 at the Water Cube, the resplendent aquatic stadium constructed for the 2008 Beijing Olympics, Putin was seated next to Chinese first lady Peng Liyuan, who in turn sat next to her husband, Chinese President Xi Jinping. That's a seating arrangement Xi may now regret. While Xi was distracted talking to U.S. President Barack Obama, who was sitting on his right, Russia's tiger-shooting, horseback-riding president made his move. After a brief exchange -- you can almost imagine Peng making appropriately cliché small talk like "my, isn't it chilly in here" -- Putin abruptly stood up, grasped a tan coat in both hands, and wrapped it chivalrously around the first lady's shoulders. She smiled gracefully, thanked him, and sat down -- only to surreptitiously slip the coat from her shoulders moments later into the waiting arms of an attendant. State broadcaster China Central Television (CCTV) caught the whole encounter on video. Peng and Putin cut small figures from the camera's distant perch across the vast Water Cube, but the CCTV commentator had no trouble making out their identities. She remarked upon Putin's chivalrous gesture just moments later, saying, "Putin has just placed his coat around Peng Liyuan's body." Major Chinese news outlets including web giant Sina and Phoenix Media quickly posted the video, which also began circulating on Chinese social media. The encounter even spawned a short-lived hashtag, "Putin Gives Peng Liyuan His Coat," on Weibo, China's Twitter-like microblogging site. But that was when the censors kicked in. Within hours of posting the video, Chinese news sites had already pulled it off their sites, and censors scrubbed it from social media sites. Within hours of posting the video, Chinese news sites had already pulled it off their sites, and censors scrubbed it from social media sites. China hopes to project a squeaky-clean image while international attention centers on APEC's host. But that's not the only reason why the Putin-Peng Coatgate has China's censors on high alert. China's tightly controlled state media carefully protects the reputation of its top government leaders, and the names of China's top leaders are frequently some of the most heavily censored terms on Chinese social media. In addition, the sweeping anti-corruption campaign Xi himself directs specifically targets infidelity as both a sign and a symptom of graft. And given China's growing economic and military ties with Russia, even the hint of less than squeaky-clean behavior involving Russia's president and China's First Lady is certainly strictly verboten.
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^^ Thats Downright Cheap Attack on Putin by Western Media shows how low they can stoop.

Its just an act of courtesy shown to a lady.
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Absolutely, and that too in Foreign Policy online!!! Really blatantly conformist approach, towing the party line.
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You really have to admire the impartial western press. That once the message is received from the powers that be. It remains consistent across the board.
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Pratyush wrote:You really have to admire the impartial western press. That once the message is received from the powers that be. It remains consistent across the board.
Thats called Phree Press in Western World ...Absolute Freedom of Speech :wink:
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‘Visa-on-arrival for Russian businessmen’
India will extend visa-on-arrival facility to Russian businessmen at 18 airports in the country, Commerce Minister Nirmala Sitharaman has said. The Minister expressed India’s commitment to removing red tape and provide single window clearance to investors.

“Speaking at the India-Russia Forum on trade and investments here on Wednesday, Ms. Sitharaman said “India and Russia need to further strengthen the economic relation which is presently below potential.”

She also spoke about positive investment climate in India and also the huge investment opportunities in infrastructure, manufacturingand other sectors.
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Russians embrace Hinduism

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Finding an ‘inexplicably-positive’ energy pervading India, they expressed desire that the entire world should feel it. After visiting a couple of local temples, the team addressed the students of an engineering college on the noble values in Hinduism.

Dressed in traditional Indian attire, four Russian women Peema, Valentina, Tania and Elama sport the Hindu religious insignia on the forehead, while the lone man Merina wears the sacred thread on his shoulder.

They have not just voluntarily embraced Hinduism, but are zealous to spread the values enshrined in the religion across India’s countryside. Disciples of Sri Sri Ravishankar of the Art of Living Foundation, they embraced Hinduism some time back and are in Tirupati now, as part of their visit to places of spiritual interest in the country.

Finding an ‘inexplicably-positive’ energy pervading India, they expressed desire that the entire world should feel it. BJP State spokesperson G. Bhanuprakash Reddy ushered them to Sri Vijayendra Saraswati, the junior pontiff of Kanchi Kamakoti Peetham, who is currently camping here, when they got into a gripping interaction with the seer.

They told the Swami that they were now familiar with the practice of ‘Sandhya Vandanam’, the meaning of the magical hymn ‘Gayatri Mantra’ and the nuances of Yoga. When the seer welcomed their idea of looking for values in other faiths and putting them to practice, the visiting delegates readily expressed their desire to spread the message across the globe. The seer gave them some English publications brought out by the Mutt and much to their delight, assured to present them a Russian edition soon.

After visiting a couple of local temples, the team addressed the students of an engineering college on the noble values in Hinduism. Mr. Bhanuprakash Reddy hoped that they would become brand ambassadors of Hinduism abroad. They are likely to visit Sri Venkateswara temple after Deepavali.
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Austin wrote:
Pratyush wrote:You really have to admire the impartial western press. That once the message is received from the powers that be. It remains consistent across the board.
Thats called Phree Press in Western World ...Absolute Freedom of Speech :wink:
Absolute freedom for Freaks to Cheat and Preach by lying through their Beak. Their shallowness is now becoming very obvious . I suspect these old goons might still be living in 90s and have yet to realized the world have changed .
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comm ... c-war.html

Putin is serious about taking the fight to dollar.
The latest research from the World Gold Council reveals that the Kremlin snapped up 55 tonnes of the precious metal - far more than any other nation - in the three months to the end of September as prices began to weaken.
The biggest buyers of gold after Russia are other countries from the Commonwealth of Independent States, led by Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan.
In total, central banks around the world bought 93 tonnes of the precious metal in the third quarter, marking it the 15th consecutive quarter of net purchases. In its report, the World Gold Council said this was down to a combination of geopolitical tensions and attempts by countries to diversify their reserves away from the US dollar.
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From what I read, Americans and a few European countries have also increased gold buying.
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When Russia told Robin Raphel to stop ‘teaching India’
However, things changed after President Boris Yeltsin in January 1996 appointed the seasoned Russian scholar-cum-intelligence chief, Academician Yevgeny Primakov as his Foreign Minister.

It was sometime in mid-1996 when Raphel visited Moscow for consultations on South Asia, a senior foreign ministry official, who was Russia’s new pointman at the US-Russian consultations frankly told her to stop ‘teaching India.’

“We in Russia with our one thousand year old history and you with your little over two century long history have no moral right to teach and preach to India, a living, over five thousand year old civilisation,” the Russian foreign ministry official told Raphel.

Since, I was told about this episode in a private conversation and off the record, I will not be able to disclose the Russian diplomat’s identity, as he is no more among us in this world. I can only describe him as a true Russian nationalist and a great friend of India, who always came forward to help the members of the Indian community in the initial period after the Soviet collapse.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29060398
The decision to suspend delivery of a Mistral naval assault ship to Russia risks costing France at least 1bn euros (£800m), officials say.
http://www.janes.com/article/43859/russ ... stral-halt
"Moreover, the Russian party has the right to enforce, via court proceedings, imposition of extra fines on DCNS and refunding of its expenses on materials and other costs associated with transportation to and construction in France of two stern components for the LHDs Vladivostok and Sevastopol . Considering those penal sanctions and refunding of expenses, the Russian party may obtain, in case of a positive court ruling, another EUR1.8 billion," he added.
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^^France is shooting itself in its foot. It only portrays itself as an undependable player in the arms market.
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World War 3 Scenario? Russia and US Isolation Could Lead to ‘Nuclear Catastrophe,’ Expert Says
Kremlin Preparing 'Nuclear Surprise' for NATO, Russian State Paper Says

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1086554 ... ssor-says/
n editorial from Stanford University professor Siegfried S. Hecker in a recent NY Times editorial wrote that a “nuclear catastrophe” could take place if the US and Russia continue to be at odds with one another. His editorial comes about a week after author Noam Chomsky claimed that US-Russia tensions could spark a nuclear war.He wrote: “My Russian colleagues and I believe that in nuclear matters, collaboration is essential, whereas isolation can lead to catastrophes. It is important for both Moscow and Washington to heed this message.”Hecker, who was the director of the Los Alamos National Laboratory from 1986 to 1997, said that over the past decade, Russian-US efforts to reduce the threat of nuclear weapons were initiated following the collapse of the Soviet Union.He noted that “cooperative threat reduction was highly successful” and “nothing really terrible happened in the Russian nuclear complex since the Soviet collapse”President Vladimir Putin, he noted, recently said the Russian nuclear defense complex “has risen from the ashes like the proverbial Phoenix.”“Moscow views cooperative threat reduction programs as a reminder of the humiliating 1990s,” Hecker then says of the new developments. “The worst-case scenario, of course, would be a nuclear war, which would be terrible. Both states that initiate it will be wiped out by the consequences. That’s the worst-case,” he said, via state run RT.com. “And it’s come ominously close several times in the past, dramatically close. And it could happen again, but not planned, but just by the accidental interactions that take place – that has almost happened,” he added.At the same time, an article from state-backed Pravda–a formerly Soviet Union-run newspaper–essentially published a propaganda piece about Russia’s nuclear weapons. The Kremlin is preparing a “nuclear surprise” for NATO amid disputes between the West and the Kremlin over the Ukraine conflict, the paper said a few days ago in an editorial.The report highlights a US State Department report that the US and Russia are about equal in terms of nuclear weapons and nuclear warheads.The publication adds that the US agreed to reduce the amount of nuclear weapons it possesses, while “Russia won an opportunity to increase” its nuclear arsenal.“Here is another surprise. As for tactical nuclear weapons, the superiority of modern-day Russia over NATO is even stronger,” it adds. “The Americans are well aware of this. They were convinced before that Russia would never rise again. Now it’s too late,” the report concludes.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Monday spoke about Russia’s alleged Cold War-style operations in other countries. “This is not just about Ukraine,” Merkel said, according to the Wall Street Journal. “This is about Moldova, this is about Georgia, and if this continues then one will have to ask about Serbia and one will have to ask about the countries of the Western Balkans.”Merkel described the conflicts with Putin and Russia as a test for the European Union. “Old thinking in terms of spheres of influence, in which international law is trampled upon, cannot be allowed to assert itself,” Merkel said. “I am confident it will not assert itself, though the road may be long, difficult, and come with many setbacks.”The reports come as Russia announced that it is planning to send long-range bombers to the Gulf of Mexico in what appears to be a display of military power.“We do not see the security environment as warranting such provocative and potentially destabilizing activity,” a senior Obama administration source told CNN last week.Meanwhile, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki added: “We don’t think there is a current situation in the western Atlantic and eastern Pacific or the Caribbean and the Gulf of Mexico that warrants additional flights in out-of-area territory.”
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An xcpt. from Gen.Sinha's latest piece posted elsewhere,worth remembering.
Indira Gandhi’s contribution as a war leader has a unique place in the history of our country. India won a great military victory after over two millennia. Ninety-two thousand Pakistani soldiers surrendered.

A new nation of a hundred million was born. This was achieved against the teeth of opposition of the Nixon-Kissinger duo and also China’s higher-than-the-mountains and deeper-than-the-oceans friendship with Pakistan.

The threat from the US Seventh Fleet, including its nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Enterprise, coming to the Indian Ocean, proved to be of no avail for Pakistan.

It was being shadowed by Soviet submarines. The Indo-Soviet Treaty of Peace, Friendship and Cooperation was a big deterrent.


The Himalayan passes, blocked with snow in winter, prevented any intervention by China. Atal Behari Vajpayee hailed Indira Gandhi as Ma Durga in Parliament.

This after two millennia, when India had last won a great military victory when Chandragupta Maurya defeated Alexander’s great general and his successor in the East, Seleucus, and annexed Afghanistan. During the medieval period invaders from West Asia, and later European maritime powers, repeatedly defeated our forces.
PS:The Russian continued use of venerable Tupolev Bear bombers,of which the IN has the maritime version; whose range and endurance are unparalleled,has enabled Russia to mount patrols at great distances from Russian territory.In recent times after the US/West stoked up the UKR crisis and sent NATO to Russian borders,Russia has in equal measure shown the West that it too is vulnerable to attack from long range.
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Russia’s Kamaz to export India-assembled trucks to third countries
NEW DELHI, November 18. /TASS/. An Indian unit of Russian truck producer Kamaz will export trucks assembled in the country to third countries, the producer’s CEO Sergey Kogogin said at a business forum Tuesday.

“At the moment, we are working on supplies of our vehicles from India to Myanmar and Bangladesh,” he said. The company has already carried out some supplies to African countries, he added.

The Indian subsidiary’s output amounted to 152 trucks in the 2013-2014 financial year (from April 2013 through March 2014). In the 2014-2015 financial year, the company will assemble about 150 trucks, Kogogin said. The localization of the subsidiary amounts to 80%, he said.

The plant was launched in 2010 as a joint venture of Kamaz and India’s Vectra Group, with the Russian company holding a 51% stake. Earlier in 2014, Kamaz bought out a stake of its Indian partner in the plant, increasing its total interest to 100%.
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Does anybody know that the person who heads SWIFT is a Pakistani ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_fo ... munication
The Brussels based Interbank payment system or SWIFT is a fundamental piece of the West's financial architecture. Its whole premise however is that it is totally apolitical and is accessible for use by banks in all countries.

It seems, however, that Western governments cannot however resist the temptation to use SWIFT in order to apply pressure on other countries. Iran's banks have already been excluded from SWIFT.

More recently the British government, almost certainly acting as a stalking horse for the US, proposed that Russian banks should also be excluded.

Though other EU governments have resisted the idea, the European Parliament, a body that never misses an opportunity to have a bash at Russia, ignoring SWIFT's protests, passed a Resolution that called for the same thing.

Inevitably, in light of these calls, the Russians are now busy settiing up their own Interbank payments system, which could be up and running in a few months.

If it links up with banks in China and Iran and the other BRICS states, as is very likely, two parallel interbank payment systems will have come into existence where there was previously one.

In that case the new system will inevitably be seen as an attractive alternative by more and more countries who will have been given an object lesson in how the West does not hesitate to use SWIFT to apply pressure to achieve its political goals.

It is very likely that more and more banks outside the West will join the new system and eventually Western banks may find that they have no alternative but to do so as well.

Though SWIFT will doubtless continue to exist, its monopoly will have been broken and it will be left much diminished whilst the end of the West's dominant position in the world financial system will have been brought a giant step closer.
tomorrow when India ends up on the wrong side of west because it messed up some Pakistani institution, these very same organizations will be used against India as well. In that light, it is good that there are alternatives.
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Any dependency on Western Banking system for convenience also is a double edge sword if you end up on the wrong side of Western Interest.

Be it SWIFT or Rating Agency these are just extended tool of Western Nations to be used appropriately for political gains not withstanding their so called independence.

An Alternate to SWIFT and Western Rating Agency is high desirable and critical for BRICS Nation
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Russian Def Min is in Paki stan (for the first time ever).

I guess Russia is desperately looking to enhance its relations with non confrontational countries (given west is tightening the screws).

I don't fault Russia (since it is her right) but this should put some sense into everybody who used to shout at the top of their lungs (on this forum) that Russians are our die hard buddies (and we should ALWAYS maintain distance from the US). The off repeated phrase - there are no permanent friends/enemies in diplomacy, is apt for this situation
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Russia has to engage Pakistan directly else it would have to do so through the Prism of China.

Main concern for Russia wrt to Pakistan is the Afghanistan drugs 1/3 of which ends in Russia and Pakistan like it or not is a key part of problem and also solution wrt Afghanistan.

Beyond russia most of these drugs also end in CSTO countries which is a big source of problems because US/NATO is doing little to control drugs in Afghanistan as it impacts less compared to CSTO countries

To throw some stastics just last year 17 Tons of Drugs was caught by CSTO countries

More than 17 tons of Afghan drugs seized in CSTO operations in 2014


UNITED NATIONS, November 21. /TASS/. A total of 17.5 tons of drugs from Afghanistan have been seized this year in operations of the Collective Security Treaty Organisation (CSTO), Russia’s UN Ambassador Vitaly Churkin told a UN General Assembly session on Afghanistan on Thursday.

Churkin said two major operations carried out this year were aimed at blocking drug trafficking routes from Afghanistan and stopping the activity of transnational drug groups operating in Central Asia.

On behalf of the CSTO, Churkin welcomed participation of Afghan law enforcement agencies as observers in special operations and urged a bigger role of NATO member states in fight against drug threat from Afghanistan.

The Collective Security Treaty Organisation brings together Russia, Belarus, Armenia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan.
Third of Afghan Heroin Goes to Russia – Kremlin Official

About a third of heroin produced in Afghanistan enters Russia, a Kremlin official said Saturday.

MOSCOW, February 15 (RIA Novosti) – About a third of heroin produced in Afghanistan enters Russia, a Kremlin official said Saturday.
The drugs are either sold in Russia or pass through the country en route to other destinations including Europe, Zamir Kabulov, the presidential envoy to Afghanistan, told Ekho Moskvy radio.

Kabulov complained that US troops stationed in the Central Asian country as part of the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force were not doing enough to battle the drug trade there, an accusation Russia has repeatedly made against the United States.

“The Americans make excuses, saying that these tasks [of fighting drugs] are not included in the UN mandate, but in Colombia they act differently, since Colombian cocaine goes to the United States, while only about 4-5 percent of Afghan heroin ends up on the US black market,” said Kabulov, who is also Russia’s former ambassador to Afghanistan.

Kabulov said the volume of heroin being produced in Afghanistan had increased by several times in the past few decades, echoing comments made last year by Russia’s federal drug control watchdog that heroin production in the war-torn country had risen four-fold in the past decade.

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We have a similar problem in Punjab, too. We need to build a mile wide and mile high fence to get a lot of people de-addicted from drugs through land of pure bluffs and pure diseases.
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The biggest beneficiary of the Western- Russia stand off is China. A knock on effect is that India will be forced to reevaluate its Russian relationship given what Russia has to do for its own economic survival i.e. cozy up to China... the Russian defence minister visiting Pakistan. Obama's Republic Day visit has to be viewed thorough this prism. If the Chinese play hard headed realpolitik, as does Putin, one has to admire Narendra Modi and his own brand of hard headed realpolitik, he has not let his own personal slight affect his judgment in the alliances that India needs to build in the future. Indeed a Prime Minister that India has been waiting for a very long time.

Whether the Russia-India relationship is really on a downward trajectory will be determined in the months following Putin's visit next month. One fact is clear; there is'nt enough room in the tent for Russia, China and India.
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ldev wrote:The biggest beneficiary of the Western- Russia stand off is China. A knock on effect is that India will be forced to reevaluate its Russian relationship given what Russia has to do for its own economic survival i.e. cozy up to China... the Russian defence minister visiting Pakistan. Obama's Republic Day visit has to be viewed thorough this prism. If the Chinese play hard headed realpolitik, as does Putin, one has to admire Narendra Modi and his own brand of hard headed realpolitik, he has not let his own personal slight affect his judgment in the alliances that India needs to build in the future. Indeed a Prime Minister that India has been waiting for a very long time.

Whether the Russia-India relationship is really on a downward trajectory will be determined in the months following Putin's visit next month. One fact is clear; there is'nt enough room in the tent for Russia, China and India.
+1 too many camels
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Another revelation is the team that Narendra Modi has surrounded himself with. Ajit Doval's recent comments are a breath of fresh air when he said that if India's economy grows at 8-9%, the country will be very secure. To illustrate this imagine that the West had sanctioned China instead of Russia, what would be the economic impact on the country being sanctioned and the countries levying the sanctions?
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ldev wrote:Another revelation is the team that Narendra Modi has surrounded himself with. Ajit Doval's recent comments are a breath of fresh air when he said that if India's economy grows at 8-9%, the country will be very secure. To illustrate this imagine that the West had sanctioned China instead of Russia, what would be the economic impact on the country being sanctioned and the countries levying the sanctions?
Exactly. "It's the economy stupid"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_the_economy,_stupid

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Austin wrote:Any dependency on Western Banking system for convenience also is a double edge sword if you end up on the wrong side of Western Interest.

Be it SWIFT or Rating Agency these are just extended tool of Western Nations to be used appropriately for political gains not withstanding their so called independence.

An Alternate to SWIFT and Western Rating Agency is high desirable and critical for BRICS Nation
Perhaps we need a kind of intra-govt crypto currency that all BRICS countries agree to honor.

The whole concept of SWIFT then goes out the window.
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Modi Challa Globally, Maange subb Ki Khair
Na Kahu Se Dosti, Naa Kahu Se Vaaair

U-C-R or RCU all needs India to be neutral, friendly to all which should be done from time to time depending on the Trillion Time Dime chime in to develop economy for SabkaSaath,SabkaHisab .
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Bloomberg on Russia’s dalliance with the Islamic Republic of Pakistan conducted by Russia’s Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu, just prior to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s visit to India next month:

Putin Looks to Pakistan as Cold War Friend India Buys U.S. Arms

Russia dealings with the Islamic Republic has steadily crept up from export of non-lethal equipment to major component of lethal equipment to proposal to export lethal equipment ie; from Mil 17 helicopters, to jet engines for the JF-17 to helicopter Mi-35 gun ships.

India needs to politely but firmly tell the Russians that this is not the late 70’s and Russia needs to put away its delusions of grandeur and realise that it has slipped substantially in power rankings while India has climbed and closed the power differential by an appreciable factor. The Russians should also be reminded that their delusional competition with the US is only going to get them shafted by their neighbor P.R.China who presents a great potential danger to Russia. Russia needs to also have pointed out that Pakistan is not a neighbor of Russia like she was in the 70’s and thus should stay well away from there.
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"Perhaps we need a kind of intra-govt crypto currency that all BRICS countries agree to honor. "

The real value of bitcoin and crypto currency is that it removes the bank ledgers from being under the control of banks and out in the open controlled by the network, which why countries with powerful banks will ensure that such systems do not thrive in any govt/system that they have an interest in.

I believe using it between countries would require these countries to provide sovereign backing to the crypto currencies and may also not work well with currency fluctuations unless they unify their currency in some way.
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India's foreign trade

Total exports: $300 billion

Brazil: 1.5%
Russia: 1%
China: 5%
South Africa: 1%
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BRICS: 9%
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Total imports: $490 billion

Brazil: 1%
Russia: 1.5%
China: 10%
South Africa: 1%
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BRICS: 14%
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The equation is far more skewed when it comes to other financials transactions (FDI, FII, remittances), so lets not get ahead of ourselves, nurturing alternatives to the SWIFT payment system. We're not in Russia's shoes, nor will we ever be.

If it ever comes to a situation where we've been excluded from the SWIFT, we'll have far bigger problems to worry about than the modalities of international trade.
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SWIFT was blocked for Iran so it could be blocked for any one where West considers it necessary , Its not an independent system governed by UN but under European Law.

Its good to have alternative to SWIFT and BRICS being the fastest growing Economy need to have their own payment system independent of EU laws
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Neshant wrote:
Perhaps we need a kind of intra-govt crypto currency that all BRICS countries agree to honor.

The whole concept of SWIFT then goes out the window.
Right now BRICS are doing lot of currency swap agreement , China is leading in this followed by Russia and Brazil and India.

This is more feseable at the moment when Shit hits the Roof and we know that it would soon be the case we can have an alternate system and IMF reforms where BRICS economy is given more representative.
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