Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct 2014

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 24 Nov 2014 01:22

sanjaykumarJi, that was already posted and discussed. Nothing new in that.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 24 Nov 2014 02:16

delete

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Nov 2014 02:37

TSP is projected to have 200 nukes by 2020 per twitter. We have to assume that at least 1% will get used.
How do we manage this nightmare?

Ah! This is deja vu for the famous Mushy Myooshik Bheshtifal.

Baa Baa Baaki Have joo any nooks?
Yessir yessir Do sau hidden in toobs
Sau phor Karachi, tees for Imran
But none for the Faujis who panicked and ran

Joo can try counting ~~sheep~~ Princesses Ayesha, Sultana etc to deal with the night-mare and go to sleep. Just don't think "SHRILLEEN"

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 24 Nov 2014 04:38

Any idea why TFT refers to Zia as Terry Thomas?

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 24 Nov 2014 04:48

Nandu wrote:Any idea why TFT refers to Zia as Terry Thomas?

He resembles Terry-Thomas quite a bit, probably also acted similar to the disreputable upper-class characters that Terry-Thomas often portrayed on film!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry-Thomas

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 24 Nov 2014 05:50

^^same mustache, the gapped front teeth and the slicked back hair

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 24 Nov 2014 05:53

Just now a suicide Bomber killed 50 in Afghanistan. Lets see how long this bonhomie with Ghani lasts.

Pakistan might be popular now and can even secure invitations to people's homes. But it is an arsonist and cant help but burn down other people's houses.

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 24 Nov 2014 06:39

"Whoever this "unnamed source" is who spoke to Sheela Butt, its a lot hot air."

Don't believe a word of what Sheela Bhatt writes unless it is an interview. She has a penchant for making up stuff these days -- she seems to be politically compromised (INC). Lots of her opinion pieces can be seen as utter lies, such as the one claiming that Modi sent Adani as messenger to apologize to Sardesai for getting thulped (deservedly) in NYC for getting violent with some hecklers. Was wondering why on earth would Adani apologize on the PM's behalf and that too to Turdesai of all people -- PM has nothing but contempt for Turdesai as was obvious during the interview during the election campaign.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Nov 2014 06:51

Was wondering why on earth would Adani apologize on the PM's behalf

Now, now! OF COURSE the PM would want to send someone to personally apologize to Mr. Sardesai. For leaving so many teeth, one nose and 2 legs unbroken when he had been desperately calling for a good reason to get a long rest in a hospital. See DS' 180-degree turnaround since those events - he is now kissing up breathlessly. I was wondering what had happened, now I understand.

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 24 Nov 2014 07:05

"For leaving so many teeth, one nose and 2 legs unbroken when he had been desperately calling for a good reason to get a long rest in a hospital."

Saar, His teetar feed seemed to say DS was kissing up (and faking it) on the eve of the visit itself, before he was punched in the face by the "all money and no class" "hindutvadis" in NYC and drove off in a huff to DC. You are right that he has been applying a lot of lip these days to the point where BJP bigwigs are part of his book release...

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 24 Nov 2014 07:59

UlanBatori wrote: Ah! This is deja vu for the famous Mushy Myooshik Bheshtifal.

Baa Baa Baaki Have joo any nooks?
Yessir yessir Do sau hidden in toobs
Sau phor Karachi, tees for Imran
But none for the Faujis who panicked and ran

We need a thread for goatable goats

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 24 Nov 2014 08:31

OK its KP Nayar and not Kuldeep Nayar who wrote that nonsense. BTW if Ombaba had planned to raise Kashmir or done equal-equal he would be dis-invited. So what does KPN have to mumble in Washington

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 24 Nov 2014 09:08

^^All of these ideological hacks have to come up with fillers to keep their jobs. N number of words per month or whatever. Publishable. They've been doing the BJP-dissing thing for so long now that it is reflexive and easy. What kind of access do these jackasses have? Some second or third rate official who is low enough down the totem pole to settle for a cheap diner lunch or dinner somewhere with some fogey they either detest, or have grown simply used to like a useless limb - or both. Every year or so they may actually come up with something vaguely noteworthy, and it is published with relative fanfare by the publication - and his continuation for yet another drudge-filled year as "XYZ correspondent in Washington" filing dreary pap is justified...

However, not so much any more

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 24 Nov 2014 12:46

With any dispensation in Afghanistan, The bonhomie with Pakistan does not last beyond few months.
Even Paki lapdogs like Rabbani and Khalifah-e-Ummah Mullah O and their predecessor turned against Pakistan once they were in power.
Let us not forget that Afghan carry superiority complex against Paks and Paks carry arsonists agenda to treat Afghan as backend extension of Kabila empire hence the conflict is bound to happen. Wait for 12-18 months before Ghani too starts singing the song that Karzai was singing.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 24 Nov 2014 13:09

^^Correct. Remember that even the Taliban did not recognise the Durand Line. There isn't a strategic concern. We will simply keep doing the right things for the Afghans and for Afghanistan.

Karzai may be derided by some as a Western puppet or Indian puppet, but there is no worse thing in Afghanistan than being a Pakistani puppet.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 24 Nov 2014 19:37

Tuvaluan wrote:"Russians are miffed at our diversification drive wrt weapons. They are courting our rival to make us feel jealous. Theek his let them try that gambit."

Seriously, this is not some dating game, though you make it sound like one. Money talks. Russia's economy is being placed under pressure by the US, and if India works to assist the Russian economy in some way, India will retain some influence with Russia, otherwise not. For example, India could seal a deal to buy oil from Russia for the long term at some rate, even if the rate if higher in the short term -- the retards in KSA will have to increase the prices to previous levels in a year or two, when their own economy comes under pressure. It all depends on how India negotiates a way to do business with all the entities and gets what it wants, as this is what all the other players/countries are also doing.

If somebody think that Russian forgot Bakistan's role in Afgan war............he/she is wrong

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 24 Nov 2014 20:08

From here

ISLAMABAD: “Sir, I take it an opportunity to tell you that I had prayed for you and your success during Haj,” former ISI Director General Lt. Gen. Zaheerul Islam told Prime Minister Muhammad Nawaz Sharif during his farewell meeting at the Prime Minister’s House on Nov 5, sources privy to the meeting told The News/ Geo News.

Donning the traditional Shalwar Qameez and waistcoat, Nawaz passed a smile and thanked the outgoing ISI boss.Sources claim that around a week back the prime minister asked super bureaucrat Fawad Hassan Fawad, a trusted DMG officer, to draft a letter thanking Gen. Zaheer for the prayers he had offered for him during Haj.Fawad drafted the letter and put it before the prime minister. The premier went through the text and signed the letter with his green-inked pen.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 24 Nov 2014 20:32

According to officials of the Federal Board of Revenue (FBR), only 550,000 people filed income tax returns for fiscal year 2013-14 by November 21 (Friday), the last date of submission. As many as 835,000 people had filed tax returns the previous year.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/795227/dism ... y-a-third/

arun · Post by **arun** » 24 Nov 2014 20:53

^^^ Considering the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s population size, 0.55 Million individual tax payers is a real low figure. In comparison India has 34.6 Million individual tax payers. That is a whopping 63 times the number of individual taxpayers in the Islamic Republic:

Over 3.46 crore individual taxpayers in country: Government

Ashok Sarraff · Post by **Ashok Sarraff** » 24 Nov 2014 21:09

rsingh wrote:
Tuvaluan wrote:"Russians are miffed at our diversification drive wrt weapons. They are courting our rival to make us feel jealous. Theek his let them try that gambit."

Seriously, this is not some dating game, though you make it sound like one. Money talks. Russia's economy is being placed under pressure by the US, and if India works to assist the Russian economy in some way, India will retain some influence with Russia, otherwise not. For example, India could seal a deal to buy oil from Russia for the long term at some rate, even if the rate if higher in the short term -- the retards in KSA will have to increase the prices to previous levels in a year or two, when their own economy comes under pressure. It all depends on how India negotiates a way to do business with all the entities and gets what it wants, as this is what all the other players/countries are also doing.
If somebody think that Russian forgot Bakistan's role in Afgan war............he/she is wrong

We may also recall Putin's very fine statement about Islam and the very accomplished surgeons in Moscow in this regard.

kancha · Post by **kancha** » 24 Nov 2014 21:48

@CestMoiz
Come to think of it, the Nuke Capable Chinese Missiles in #Pakistan Army inventory do cover a LOT of Chinese territory as well!
#JustSaying

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 24 Nov 2014 23:34

That is an excellent point, and I am sure that as the Uighuristani Jihad blooms with bums from Pakistan, more and more Genelars of the PRA will start feeling the twitch in their musharrafs about that very point. As in, what happens when one gets miraculously transported back to Uighuristan or even Ajaad Cash-More for use against Beijing or Shanghai, evil dejenerate kuffar-infested snake-pits as they are.

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 24 Nov 2014 23:36

ArmenT, thanks for the Terry Thomas reference. Didn't realize it was an actor. Should've googled.

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 24 Nov 2014 23:37

If the Indian media were not a bunch of losers, they would assist the country by highlighting every group beheading of islamists in China and make sure the LeTs and LeJs and Taliban are listening...but then if wishes were goats, every Paki would have two goats on standby when it is time for missile polishing.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 25 Nov 2014 01:27

Islamic State: Prospects in Pakistan - Sushant Sareen

In recent weeks, there has been a lot of activity taking place in various parts of Pakistan in the name of the abominable, but also ineluctable, Islamic State (IS). Apart from some senior commanders of the Mullah Fazlullah-led Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) faction who have announced their allegiance to the IS’ Caliph Ibrahim a.k.a. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, there are reports of other smaller groups of militants who have cast their lot with the pestilential IS. Graffiti and posters of the IS have appeared in Karachi, Peshawar, Lahore, Bannu, Balochistan, Gilgit-Baltistan, Wah, Hangu, Kurram, Bhakkar, Dera Ismail Khan and other towns and cities of the country.

One big disadvantage that the IS will suffer in its quest to make Pakistan a province of its Caliphate is that, for now at least, it doesn’t enjoy the support of the Pakistan Army which continues to back Mullah Omar, the other pretender to the title of Amir-ul-Momineen.

Clearly, Baghdadi would be smacking his lips at the prospect of a nuclear-armed Islamised Pakistan (part of the legendary Khorasan) becoming a province of his caliphate. For their part, many Pakistanis too would be looking forward to becoming a part of such an abomination because that would fulfil their quest for living in a pure Islamic caliphate. And given the sort of intolerance that exists in Pakistan, it is ideally suited to become a province of IS. All that remains is to get rid of that other pretender and then the path will be clear for ‘Caliph’ Ibrahim.

Cheers

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 25 Nov 2014 02:16

highlighting every group beheading of islamists in China

Hold that thought! Where does one find these happy news items? Need someone who can read and translate Mandarin, unfortunately. SURELY PeeAref should have a dhaga to record the sufferings of the Faithful in Uighuristan?

This is the great failing: I don't know any Mandarin despite my roots .

OTOH, like the Balochistan Freedom Movement, surely there must be a Free Uighur website?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 25 Nov 2014 02:24

I am slowly coming around to thinking IS is a US creation to subdue West Asia. See how those who argued against IS are out of power in US. Holder, Hagel and who else.
Hence TSP does not face any immediate troubles as their own version of behaders are in charge of TSP.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 25 Nov 2014 02:25

Hmmm! The PeeAllSee got there first with total ruthlessness as usual. See what remains

Also, this just in: 20 ghante pehle

In recent months, hundreds of young men across the region have been detained by Chinese security forces in a campaign that is ostensibly aimed at stanching jihadist activity but which critics say is often arbitrary and abusive.

In the days after Mr. Tohti’s conviction, three of his students, dressed in orange prison vests, appeared on state-run television to confess that they had exaggerated ethnic tensions on Uighur Online, the website run by Mr. Tohti. In his confession, Perhat Halmurat, the sociology student and a former editor of the website, blamed his teacher for an article he posted about a fight between a Han and Uighur student that had taken place on campus. “His unspeakable goal is to split the country,” he said.

3 Innocent Faithful Uighur Farmers Shot By Unbelievers

Hundreds of Innocent Faithfuls murdered by Unbelievers

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 25 Nov 2014 02:45

Dileep Padgaonkar on the recent Track-II jamboree

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.co ... greements/

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 25 Nov 2014 02:48

RamanaGaru, you could very well be right. I will add furthermore, that ISIS, like Al Queda is not the gargantuan monster that US makes it it out to be. Its yet another Al Queda like entity with some motvated Jihadis. The biggest terrorist monsters are TSPA, ISI, and their pigLeT proxies; who are all US munnas.

partha · Post by **partha** » 25 Nov 2014 08:43

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 25 Nov 2014 12:04

Sensationalist article :

An Afghan mother claims to have killed 25 Taliban militants and injured several others after she found her son, who was a police, dead in a fierce gun battle with the insurgents at his check post in western Farah province.
"Reza Gul" the Afghan mother who rushed to take revenge of her son's death stood behind an armament and claimed the lives of 25 insurgents.

"Taliban are foreigners, they are servants of Pakistan, if they attack 100 other times, I will continue to defend my country and will shed their blood to not let them dare to enter my village" the little fighter added.

http://www.tolonews.com/en/afghanistan/ ... 25-taliban

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 25 Nov 2014 14:55

Sartaj Aziz claims that there is no meeting proposed between Modi & Nawaz at Kathmandu, but if Sushma Swaraj requests one, it can be arranged. The Pakistanis feel that their tail is up after the US played its Pakistan-pasand card with a call from Obama (didn't Bush Jr say that the relationship has been dehyphenated?), week long meeting for Gen Raheel in the US, 'positive' meeting with Pres. Ghani, Russian military deal etc. Pakistan operates on 'feel good factor' alone and it is into one such orgasmic point at this time. We must do everything to inflict pain following the perceived pleasure.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 25 Nov 2014 15:18

SSridhar wrote:Pakistan operates on 'feel good factor' alone and it is into one such orgasmic point at this time. We must do everything to inflict pain following the perceived pleasure.

+1

arun · Post by **arun** » 25 Nov 2014 17:40

How Pakistani law inspired Israel to seize Arabs' land

The new Jewish state used the legal techniques of a new Muslim state to deprive its own mainly-Muslim refugees of their properties. How ironic. :

In an irony of history, the new state of Israel, a year after its founding in 1948, was "inspired" by Pakistan in enacting laws to seize the property of defeated Arabs.

Mark Twain’s quip, "Buy land, they’re not making it anymore," could have served as the Zionist motto. Starting with the arrival in Palestine of Jews from Europe in the late 19th century and accelerating in the 20th century, the drive was to acquire land: to make Jewish settlement possible, to transform Jewish existence from the ghettoes and cities into working the fields, and to fulfill the biblical promise of return to the Land of Israel.

Money was donated by Jews throughout the world and land was bought from Arab landowners on the principle of willing seller, willing buyer.

Yet with all the effort, by 1948 only 5.7 percent of the land of then Palestine had been purchased. The War of Independence that year opened the way to far-reaching changes: the land allocated by the United Nations partition plan to Jews was extended by 38 percent as local Arab militia and invading Arab armies were defeated and driven back.

The government seized the lands of Arabs who had left their homes, whether they fled outside the borders or remained inside. The new state ended up owning some 93 percent of the land, with the rest remaining as private property belonging to Arabs, Jews, Christian churches and the Muslim Waqf.

Israel the conqueror did not behave uniquely: in seizing properties, policies were evolved from what had been done elsewhere in the world. Regulations to eliminate all rights of former owners derived from Britain’s Trading with the Enemy Act of 1939 which dealt with Nazi Germany, and by the actions of other countries where mass exchanges of population had taken place.

In the government debates to decide what to do with the Arab "abandoned property," the prime minister’s special adviser on land and border demarcation, Zalman Lifshitz, argued for the permanent use of refugee property for the political and economic benefit of the new state. He said that countries in similar situations, such as Turkey, Greece, Bulgaria and Czechoslovakia, had taken on vast powers to liquidate refugee property for state use and he urged the Israeli government "to proceed in a similar manner" as "there is no shortage of precedents."

He focused on Pakistan, the Muslim state which had come into violent existence in 1947 in the partition of colonial India. There too, as in Palestine, Britain had ended its rule. There too, as in Palestine, the coming of independence set off inter-communal strife which led to the flight of large numbers of refugees hostile to the new state, and the entry of large numbers of supporters. The difference was in the figures: the India-Pakistan conflict gave rise to 13 million refugees compared with Israel’s 750,000.

It cannot be said if Lifshitz was aware of the irony of the new Jewish state using the legal techniques of a new Muslim state to deprive its own mainly Muslim refugees of their properties. Whichever, he proposed "a new law, similar to the… Pakistani regulations and based on the principles they contain." Pakistani lawmakers, he noted, had drawn on Britain’s Trading with the Enemy Act, but had also introduced new elements to assist expropriation and transfer of ownership: they had created a mechanism for seizing Hindu and Sikh refugee property in Pakistan and its reallocation for the settlement of Muslim refugees from India.

Lifshitz presented his report on 30 March 1949 and the Knesset, parliament, duly enacted laws later that year. The legal machinery to appropriate Palestinian refugee land, he noted, was "based squarely" on the Pakistani legislation of 1948.

But unlike Pakistan and others, a state (for Palestinians) did not come into existence at the time. So Palestinian refugees did not have the benefit of state sponsorship and they landed up in limbo in surrounding Arab states and inside Israel. Ever since, Palestinians, and the world, have paid dearly for that omission.

Having seized Arab properties, Israel recognized the need, for both legal and moral reasons, to pay compensation: it was the way to draw a line under its actions. Many Arab owners also recognized this, and refused to apply for compensation.

The UN Conciliation Commission for Palestine, set up in 1949 charged with the mission of its title, had no success before fading away in 1966. But it did issue a "Valuation of Abandoned Arab Land in Israel" which assessed the value of seized Arab land at US$281,074,511, with a further US$54 million for movable goods. Arabs said the value was too low and Israel dismissed it as "academic," noting the land had been obtained through war and not as a business transfer.

Excerpted from "Drawing Fire: Investigating the accusations of apartheid in Israel" by Benjamin Pogrund, with permission of the publisher, Rowman & Littlefield. All rights reserved.

South African-born, Benjamin Pogrund was deputy editor of Johannesburg's Rand Daily Mail when it was closed down because of its opposition to apartheid. He came on aliyah in 1997 to found Yakar's Center for Social Concern in Jerusalem, devoted to dialogue.

From here:

Haaretz

James B · Post by **James B** » 25 Nov 2014 17:43

Talk of 70%+ polling in J&K in SAARC will inflict some khujli in the Musharraf.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 25 Nov 2014 18:36

The feel good factor is good turnout in J&K elections. Now pakis have nothing to offer. No blackmailing politicians, no terrorists across border, no track 2 sellout.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 25 Nov 2014 20:45

News for Jinnah on a Democratic and Secular Pakistan

1. How to rethink 'Pakistan isn’t made for democracy' :

2. Western democracy cannot be enforced on Pakistan:Mush the Tush

Cheers

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 25 Nov 2014 20:54

Peregrine wrote:News for Jinnah on a Democratic and Secular Pakistan

1. How to rethink 'Pakistan isn’t made for democracy'

2. Western democracy cannot be enforced on Pakistan: Mush the Tush

Cheers

i.e.
Let the Generals loot the land of Pakistan,
Then the left overs can be claimed by armed mullahs, and armed corrupt politicians

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 25 Nov 2014 23:07

The same AFP article has

Indian Kashmir turns out to vote as Modi eyes power

as title in AFP and

Voter turnout 70 per cent in Kashmir poll, Indian EC claims

In Albakistani Yawn newspaper. Al Bakistani newspaper added

Meanwhile, in Pakistani Kashmir, 1,000 people protested in the region's main town of Muzaffarabad, denouncing the elections in Indian-held Kashmir as “fraudulent”.

Into the text (while still crediting it to AFP)

Meanwhile express tribune reported the news but took it down after a few hours.