Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct 2014

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 09 Dec 2014 23:08

habal wrote:pakistan paindabad .. watch mard-e-momins in action after 3:56 upto 4:56

2 motormas being harassed at PTI-rally in lyallpur. Juicy pickings for friendless & frustrated mujahids. So much that even a 'maulvi' wants share in action. The dude in a scarf is a 'maulvi'.

Maulvi is from the Department of Prevention of Vice and Promotion of Virtue (Dept of BVBV in Benis lingo!). Since Dimran is a fan of the Taliban (misguided biraders), what are a couple of wimmens doing alone in public without their mehrams? Per shariah, don't they become right hand possessions? Wimmens taunting the men with big dandas made them unable to control their mardangi to match danda for danda.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 09 Dec 2014 23:54

by Vishvak
few messages back there is some paki praising the legendary Indian nuclear scientist Dr. Homi Bhaha. How did that turn into international nuke black market, paint job and photochor circus, actual nuke testing & missile tests and then turning more green into terrorism under nuclear umbrella, concerns about nukes falling in hands of terrorists, etc.

That Paki was Dr. Abdus Salaam who was Ahmadi. The only person to get nobel prize (apart from malala now). He was declared non-muslim by Zia ul haq and recently on his grave the word "muslim" was removed on the orders of baki court.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdus_Salam

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 10 Dec 2014 09:36

From that CIA torture report

Majid Khan's lunch tray consisting of hummus, pasta and sauce, nuts and raisins were pureed and rectally infused.

Also mostly the report is of the form "Abdul Muj was caught in Pakistan, waterboarded and a rod shoved up his musharraf". Pakis in twitter are all outraged about the torture in the US, while nary a peep on who sold all these people out for a few greenbacks.

habal · Post by **habal** » 10 Dec 2014 09:47

RCase wrote:Maulvi is from the Department of Prevention of Vice and Promotion of Virtue (Dept of BVBV in Benis lingo!). Since Dimran is a fan of the Taliban (misguided biraders), what are a couple of wimmens doing alone in public without their mehrams? Per shariah, don't they become right hand possessions? Wimmens taunting the men with big dandas made them unable to control their mardangi to match danda for danda.

this is the end result of purest Islam after it is distilled & filtered through 101 filtration process. Motormas can see their future right here.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 10 Dec 2014 09:48

Am wondering how much of this would be blamed on Musharaff and rest of them would get away. Since all extremism is blamed conveniently only on Zia(Look at those PIA ads before Zia

), photochor alone is responsible nookular black market, bandicoot might get tacked on with all these muj for money scheme.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 10 Dec 2014 09:50

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 10 Dec 2014 10:06

wtf going on

According to Navbharat times. India is supplying vegetables to pakis and this has reduced food prices by half. Example peas from Rs 3000 - 1200
Link is in hindi
http://navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/bu ... 438133.cms

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 10 Dec 2014 11:03

Why are Pakis having Vegetables in the first place, they should become an all meat society.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 10 Dec 2014 12:02

Brad Goodman wrote:wtf going on

According to Navbharat times. India is supplying vegetables to pakis and this has reduced food prices by half. Example peas from Rs 3000 - 1200
Link is in hindi
http://navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/bu ... 438133.cms

Something wrong here.
"व्यापारियों के अनुसार चीन से हर महीने 20 करोड़ रुपये की सब्जियां आती रही हैं। सब्जी व्यापारी मलिक फतेह मोहम्मद ने कहा कि भारत से कुल 25 ट्रक सब्जियों का आयात हुआ। 10 ट्रक सब्जियां काबुल भेजी गईं, शेष 15 ट्रक सब्जियां पेशावर में बेची गईं। "

How can net 15 trucks cause such a drop in price, in a market of 20 crore rupees per month?

PS: same news-item in English
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 431307.cms

RamSuresh · Post by **RamSuresh** » 10 Dec 2014 14:18

A_Gupta wrote:
Brad Goodman wrote:wtf going on

How can net 15 trucks cause such a drop in price, in a market of 20 crore rupees per month?

PS: same news-item in English
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 431307.cms

Someone must have fed a rumour that Indian peas and tomatoes have polio vaccine in them and they have got mixed up with homeland supplies.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 10 Dec 2014 21:37

SBajwa wrote:
by Vishvak
few messages back there is some paki praising the legendary Indian nuclear scientist Dr. Homi Bhaha. How did that turn into international nuke black market, paint job and photochor circus, actual nuke testing & missile tests and then turning more green into terrorism under nuclear umbrella, concerns about nukes falling in hands of terrorists, etc.
That Paki was Dr. Abdus Salaam who was Ahmadi. The only person to get nobel prize (apart from malala now). He was declared non-muslim by Zia ul haq and recently on his grave the word "muslim" was removed on the orders of baki court.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdus_Salam

To add: Most may already know, but the first (and perhaps the only universally respected big shot in physics) muslim scientist was disowned by Pakistan. (When he returned to Pakistan - after Nobel ceremony - there
was no one to receive him. He could not even give a lecture in the Quaid-i-Azam University, Islamabad, since there were threats of violence from students belonging to Islami Jamiat-i-Talaba. This was not an isolated event and other institutes also found it difficult to invite him for the same reason.

India (and many other countries) has offered him a prestigious job. Indira Gandhi (then PM) invited him to India and bestowed a great gesture of respect by not only serving him tea with her own hands, but also sitting by his feet.

One may find roads named after him, or such honors in Switzerland to China but he is disowned by Pakis who like to worship Kasab types..

saip · Post by **saip** » 10 Dec 2014 23:42

What is wrong with our DDM? All Pakistani papers talk about Malala getting the peace prize but Indian papers talk about Satyarthi AND Malala getting the prize (atleast in the headlines I have seen).

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 11 Dec 2014 00:17

saip wrote:What is wrong with our DDM? All Pakistani papers talk about Malala getting the peace prize but Indian papers talk about Satyarthi AND Malala getting the prize (atleast in the headlines I have seen).

They are a bunch of cretins and cowards. UnDy even had Jihadis like Hamid Mir to cover the ceremony in Oslo. There was some crap and an IIT Delhi student going to TSP and being enamoursed (Ackk Thoo, I can't believe IITs produce such trash). Then there is the customary obsession to be seen alongside whites: gaga over Roger Federer (I wish we had tennis players like him), sky-high thrill about Salman Khan hobnobbing with Paris Hilton (isn't she a p0rn icon?). Then, the understandable anger over Uber.

And in all this cacophony, late Col. Sankalp Kumar who gave his life so these pompous toadies can indulge in such trash is distant memory. I must admit I am disappointed with ModiJi too. He didn't even mention TSP's name in the terror attack. Is he turning out to be anther MMS redux out to impress US/UK?

James B · Post by **James B** » 11 Dec 2014 00:29

Even Fair mohatarma flustered with USG response WRT TSP

Spent much of the day yesterday w/ USG discussing Pakistan. By the end of it, my blood was boiling and I concluded we are a stupid lot.

This only means Amirkhan is totally aligned with Pak objectives in Afghanistan & perhaps even on Cashmere.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 11 Dec 2014 00:59

Again should we take this at face value or is it meant for Pakistan to take at face value.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 11 Dec 2014 02:39

Pakistan Ka Prakashit Swapna!

Pakistan trade deficit reaches $10.45bn

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s trade deficit widened by 34.78 per cent in the first five months of the current fiscal year from a year ago.

In absolute terms, the trade deficit reached to $10.45 billion in July-November 2014 from $7.75 billion over the corresponding period of last year, suggested data of Pakistan Bureau of Statistics released here on Wednesday.

However, on monthly basis the trade deficit decelerated in November by 10.30 per cent over the corresponding month of last year.

Since July 2014, imports has rebounded and witnessed a consistent growth.

In July-Nov 2014, imports reached $20.37 billion against $18.11 billion over the corresponding period of last year, reflecting an increase of 12.50 per cent.

But a negative growth of 0.58 per cent was witnessed in the month of November 2014 over the corresponding month of last year.

Last year, imports witnessed a marginal growth of 0.36 per cent to $45.11 billion in July-June 2014 from $44.95 billion over the corresponding months of last year.

Contrary to this, exports witnessed a negative growth of 4.19 per cent, as its value fell to $9.92 billion in July-Nov period this year as against $10.35 billion over the corresponding months of last year.

But exports witnessed a growth of 9.47 per cent in November 2014 from a year ago sending a hope of revival in exports proceeds in the next few months.

In rupee terms, the exports witnessed a growth of 3.59 per cent during the month under review showing the appreciation did not have much impact on exports.

Cheers

Rajagopal · Post by **Rajagopal** » 11 Dec 2014 02:45

It is that time of the month to remind all you Yindoo kafirs of your eternal duty to save Pakistan Hockey.

Horse's mouth: "It is for other countries in Asia, mainly India, to play bilateral series with us so that we can gain financially.”

http://www.dawn.com/news/1149979/shahna ... tan-hockey

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 11 Dec 2014 03:21

Americans in Pakistan, Afghanistan warned after CIA torture report

WASHINGTON: The US embassies in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Thailand are warning of the potential for anti-American protests and violence after Tuesday's release of a Senate report outlining harsh interrogation techniques used by the CIA on terror suspects.

Cheers

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 11 Dec 2014 03:51

Praveen Swami on LeT: here

I can't find the non e-paper version.

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 11 Dec 2014 05:57

"The US embassies in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Thailand are warning of the potential for anti-American protests and violence after Tuesday's release of a Senate report outlining harsh interrogation techniques used by the CIA on terror suspects."

And the worthless sh*t-for-brains asswipes in the US state dept. continue to fund a country that uses US money to attack the USA. Christine Fair's titter messages say as much -- "the US state dept. behaves as if they have green passports". The US state dept. has been infiltrated by the ISI quite seriously obviously, as the recent Robin Raphel episode suggests.

Some seemingly decent people who are not even practising muslims seem to lay their reputation on the line to protect islam and islamists -- this is done by claiming "no lack of knowledge of islam" and stating "islam is being twisted out of context by the islamists" at the same time (the same line taken by the duplicitous snake-oil-selling turd Reza Aslan). Clearly a disingenuous point of view, which makes you wonder if you can ever get islam out of you once it is in your system. Some serious brainwashing methods in islam that other death cults can learn from.

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 11 Dec 2014 06:31

@ Tuvaluan: I see today's Islam as no different from the Moonies of 1970s. Brainwashed and programmed.

All it takes is a phone call

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076804/

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 11 Dec 2014 07:09

Cosmo_R:"@ Tuvaluan: I see today's Islam as no different from the Moonies of 1970s. Brainwashed and programmed."

Cosmo_R: Yes, that kind of mental programming is true of all cults (religious or otherwise), not just the moonies. Starting from the initial "we are your family" act down to the "you will leave your family when you are dead" act. Islam has all the makings of such a cult going by the behavior of its ardent followers.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 11 Dec 2014 07:43

FYI.

The second contract, worth $31.8 million, was handed out by the U.S. Air Force for contractor engineering and technical services (:CETS) in support of the F-16 aircraft for foreign military sales requirements. Under this contract, Lockheed Martin will provide CETS personnel to improve the skills of Air Force military and civilian personnel in systems maintenance. The company will carry out its work at various locations for countries like Bahrain, Chile, Egypt, Indonesia, Iraq, Jordan, Morocco, Oman, Pakistan, Poland, Taiwan and Turkey. It is expected to run through Jun 30, 2017.

Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/lockheed- ... z3LYQpMcWN

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 11 Dec 2014 07:45

FYI:
http://www.thenewstribe.com/2014/12/05/ ... -pakistan/

LONDON: The JF-17 thunder fighter aircraft, which has been the main attraction of visitors and potential buyers alike at the recently-concluded four-day defense exhibition, IDEAS 20114, has attracted many buyers indulging Nigeria, as the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) is close to finalising an order for the purchase of one or two squadrons of the JF-17 Thunder.

The fighter aircraft has been co-produced by Pakistan and China.

IHS Jane’s Defence Weekly quoted Pakistan officials that the NAF finalised its recommendation for the purchase of 25-40 JF-17s after NAF chief air marshal Adesola Nunayon Amosu visited Pakistan in October. Amosu’s engagements in Pakistan included a visit to the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) at Kamra, north of Islamabad, where the JF-17 is manufactured.

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 11 Dec 2014 08:40

So apparently the US state dept.'s reason for continually funding Pakistan is that "they are too dangerous to not be given any funding" (According to CFair's tweets) -- I think the theory that used to make the rounds on BRF that the pakis are doing a nuke blackmail of the US is probably close to the truth. "But the US is a great superpower", you might retort, and that's the time to pull out this pamphet with about a dozen bridges for sale on a discount.

arun · Post by **arun** » 11 Dec 2014 14:16

“Is Robin Raphel a Homeland-style spy, the victim of a ‘bureaucratic snafu’, or a pawn in the distrustful relationship between two supposed allies?”:

FBI investigation into ex-US diplomat casts cloud over relations with Pakistan

arun · Post by **arun** » 11 Dec 2014 14:18

abhishek_sharma wrote:Praveen Swami on LeT: here

I can't find the non e-paper version.

The Praveen Swami article on the Islamic Republic of Pakistan based Mohammadden Terrorist group, Lashkar e Taiba aka LeT that you posted is available on the non e-paper version of the Indian Express at the below weblink:

The Lashkar project

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 11 Dec 2014 16:38

One thing is for sure. By tweeting what she tweeted Fair didi tells us that probably she wont get to see the inside of the Foggy Bottom much more from now and also appears that she does not care.

habal · Post by **habal** » 11 Dec 2014 17:01

she is giving it a long shot. Pakistan is an unviable state. SD or no SD.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 11 Dec 2014 17:31

He appeared on horseback before the iconic Minar-e-Pakistan in Lahore last Thursday, the beast swaying somewhat alarmingly below his not-inconsiderable girth, to proclaim before thousands of cheering cadre brought in on special trains that it was the eve of the Ghazwa-e-Hind. Neo-fundamentalists believe that the Prophet said the war to establish Islamic rule in India would be waged by an army rising from the fabled deserts of Khorasan before the day of judgement. “The Ghazwa-e-Hind is inevitable,” announced Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, head of the Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD), parent organisation of the Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT). “Kashmir will be freed, 1971 will be avenged and the Gujarat victims will get justice, god willing.”

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 11 Dec 2014 19:12

arun wrote:“Is Robin Raphel a Homeland-style spy, the victim of a ‘bureaucratic snafu’, or a pawn in the distrustful relationship between two supposed allies?”:

FBI investigation into ex-US diplomat casts cloud over relations with Pakistan

Not surprised to find this claim by the Paki who was quoted

Simbal Khan says some of Delhi’s antipathy may have rubbed off on the many US diplomats of Indian ancestry she has encountered in Washington.
“There is a very hardcore anti-Pakistan lobby in the State Department, including many very smart people who are as American as anyone else but they do have these leanings.”

TSP is not at fault at all, its a conspiracy against TSP by India and its lobby.

I am just wondering, there are a few toothless Indian Americans in state dept like Nisha Biswal (who is anyway Indian in the eyes of some lawmakers), but for equal equal purposes, does the state dept and other foreign policy arms of the state dept not have some Paki Americans as well? Paki Americans sure speak shudh English, and they are as TFTA as the maacho "All American" diplomats in the state dept. I know think tanks have a lot of Pakis who are suave and well trained in ISI speak. For e.g., Trivializing TSP terror by casually saying Kargil happened, Mumbai happened etc, as though they are some natural disasters, and India should move on.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 11 Dec 2014 19:49

Tuvaluan wrote:So apparently the US state dept.'s reason for continually funding Pakistan is that "they are too dangerous to not be given any funding" (According to CFair's tweets) -- I think the theory that used to make the rounds on BRF that the pakis are doing a nuke blackmail of the US is probably close to the truth. "But the US is a great superpower", you might retort, and that's the time to pull out this pamphet with about a dozen bridges for sale on a discount.

People giving elaborate sophisticated BS need to explain giving cover to nuclear blackmail. It is a total disaster due to deliberate politicking in the Indian subcontinent at cost of others.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 12 Dec 2014 00:33

Cosmo_R wrote:@ Tuvaluan: I see today's Islam as no different from the Moonies of 1970s. Brainwashed and programmed.

All it takes is a phone call

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076804/

Why look for exotic reasons? Islam can be a very appealing religion: it gives you the right to lord it over kafirs, take their wealth and possess their women. How is that a bad thing?

Its strength is in the forced loyalty to the religion that it imposes. It endows the momin with a strutting self assurance that certain western motormas find irresistible.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 12 Dec 2014 00:39

habal wrote:she is giving it a long shot. Pakistan is an unviable state. SD or no SD.

I am not so sure. Kabila model doesn't require the expense of maintaining ordinary civic services etc. that are provided by the normal state. Pakistan will be ok as long as they get enough tribute from amreeka (and, they hope, a prosperous India) yo keep the military/kabila in good repair.

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 12 Dec 2014 04:45

KLNMurthy:

Why look for exotic reasons? Islam can be a very appealing religion: it gives you the right to lord it over kafirs, take their wealth and possess their women.

But that is not why there is much higher chance of people with a poor self image/worth joining cults (as studies have shown), which provide them with the extra kick in the head to start nursing new delusions of the being the chosen one of the creator of universe and his sidekick prophet, the thetans (scientology), the unbeatable divinity of Reverend Moon, jeebus, or (insert your own favourite all-power imaginary friend here).

These cults prey up people with a specifical mental makeup and use them for political and financial power. So, Today you are a nobody, you ain't got no friends, and the others they all hate you, and tomorrow, as soon as you are a proud cult member, you have a readymade family and you are given a pre-packaged reason as to why your existence is crucial in fulfilling the divine master plan of some dude who has appropriated credit for creating the universe. Small price to mortgage your brain for all the new found perception of security and wellbeing.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 12 Dec 2014 07:30

Tuvaluan wrote:KLNMurthy:
Why look for exotic reasons? Islam can be a very appealing religion: it gives you the right to lord it over kafirs, take their wealth and possess their women.
But that is not why there is much higher chance of people with a poor self image/worth joining cults (as studies have shown), which provide them with the extra kick in the head to start nursing new delusions of the being the chosen one

What you say and what klnmurthy says are both perfectly compatible.

For example, the religions have targeted disgruntled people or people who among whom anger against society can be provoked.

Islam in America has targeted blacks in prisons.

In India Brahmins were declared human rights abusers and people of "lower castes" were encouraged to convert to the egalitarian Christian religion.

The more you can pick up and isolate to highlight societal groups who can be dubbed "less than equal" the more the "religions' prey on these groups to win converts. In India it was unsecular to even talk about these things till a decade ago.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 12 Dec 2014 16:48

Certainly, the recent correction to Ms C.Fair's myopic vision of Pakistan has not come about because of her enlightenment of the crimes and perfidies of Pakistan or her determination to shun her earlier avatar for a more truthful new one etc. She is vengeful due to something that personally caused her some pain. What it was may not concern us, but we welcome while it lasts. We don't need to show an exuberance in welcoming her prodigality because of two reasons;we know it may be short-lived and we also do not want her to turn-around and accuse us of dishonesty when we criticise her when she changes her opinion which may be sooner than later. After all, she has been careful only in criticising Pakistan, not supporting Indian stance in any issue.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 12 Dec 2014 19:26

SSJi, she does support India's legal stance on J&K, and points out the convenient and fraudulent TSP position on UN resolutions which they obsessively repeat.

Matter of fact, apart from her, and may be Selig Harrison (and I am not sure of Harold Gould), the overwhelming US position is that India is wrong and TSP is right on J&K (and of course the customary human rights BS accusing India of torturing the "innocent" KMs who deman secession at gun point).

US wants an independent J&K or at least an independent valley, or short of that valley in TSP's hands, make no mistake about that. Sticking to his usual "both sides are guilty" crap, Uneven I recall gave an interview on rediff soon after Kargil where he categorically stated that US does not accept India's position on Kashmir. Another b@stard Shaffer (don't know his first name) said that not implementing UN resolutions lays on India's door. The list goes on. And of course Alistair Lamb is some scum bag that TSP quotes like a programmed robot.

I think Fair is way too contrarian and not in US interests to be taken seriously by the big boys. Plus, as you noted, she seems to have some personal gripe with TSP. Most likely, a bunch of ISI Pakijabi honchos had a go at her and then dumped her on the way side (recall, post 9/11, another Indian American chic also suffered the same fate and in fact has a child). The difference is that the big boys also know TSP perfidy, but as professional diplomats, they keep it under wraps and work hard to confine TSP's perfidy to India alone as that serves US interests. Thats diplomacy 101.

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 12 Dec 2014 20:27

SSridhar,"Certainly, the recent correction to Ms C.Fair's myopic vision of Pakistan has not come about because of her enlightenment of the crimes and perfidies of Pakistan or her determination to shun her earlier avatar for a more truthful new one etc. She is vengeful due to something that personally caused her some pain. "

Boss, certainly, in fact, she still continues to say that pakistani people are perfectly A-ok and it is only the pakistani army that is the problem, and we all know better. Her problem seems to be only with the army, and not with equally bigoted and violent average paki (when it comes to India).

My only interest in her statement was the first-hand view of what the prevalent thought in the US State Dept and how it is in sync with the general observation here about there periodic billion $ handout to pakistan on some pretext or other, no matter what Pakis do to the USA.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 12 Dec 2014 21:20

by Crams
(recall, post 9/11, another Indian American chic also suffered the same fate and in fact has a child).

Who could be this?