Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec 2014

arun · Post by **arun** » 18 Dec 2014 17:16

arun wrote:
shiv wrote:Meanwhile in India, school children, some too young to remember 26/11, mourn for the dead kids of Peshawar

............................. {All Pictures Snipped} .................................

Sad that this opportunity for Indian Children standing in silence for ALL Children, anywhere in the world, who have been slaughtered by Pakistan based Mohammadden, starting with Afreen Qureshi whose life was cruelly cut short by Pakistan based Mohammadden Terrorists in Mumbai on 26/11 was allowed to be squandered. Hat tip to K L N Murthy for highlighting this incident earlier in this thread:

Women who lost child, foetus, identifies Kasab

Speaking of Indian School Children standing in silence for the slaughter of children by Mohammadden Terrorists, was there such an event for the children slaughtered at Beslan in North Ossetia, Russia?

Similarly, was there such an event of Indian School Children standing in silence for the abduction of female children by Mohammadden Terrorists from the Boko Haram Group from a school in Chibok, Nigeria?

I ask so as to put to rest even the smallest iota of doubt that message that children in Peshawar in particular and children in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan are somehow more deserving of sympathy than children in Mumbai, Beslan, Chibok and elsewhere in the world who have been slaughtered by Pakistani Mohammadden Terrorists / Mohammadden Terrorists.

Our Prime Minister Mr. Modi calls the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s to express condolence for Mohammadden Terrorist Attack on a school in Peshawar on Wednesday:

Peshawar School Attack: PM Modi Calls Nawaz Sharif, Expresses Deep Condolences

Our Prime Minister Mr. Modi gets our schools to observe two minutes silence to express condolence for Mohammadden Terrorist Attack on a school in Peshawar on Wednesday:

Peshawar attack: Schools across India observe 2-minute silence

Our Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha observe brief silence and pass resolution condemning Mohammadden Terrorist attack on a school on Wednesday :

Parliament slams ‘despicable and cowardly’ Peshawar attack

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan and State Actors of that country I will add, delivers its opinion on what they think of these condolences by releasing UN designated Mohammadden Terrorist Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi who is implicated in the Mumbai 26/11 Mohammadden Terrorist attack on bail:

Mumbai attacks 'mastermind' Lakhvi bailed in Pakistan

kancha · Post by **kancha** » 18 Dec 2014 17:22

Altair wrote:Ajit Doval visits PAK High Commission

Has there been any precedent when a NSA visits Pak High commission and pay sympathies? Surely, AD knows Pakis dont give a rodents behind for the gesture. For all purposes the retards in Pak High Commission must believe it was AD who must have spinned it for TTP to attack the army school in first place and AD wanted to look in the enemy eye after stabbing them.
Why visit then?

What is to say he visited them to actually convey his condolences, and not promise a tight squeezing of their testimonials if they get any funny ideas about 'retaliation'?

abhik · Post by **abhik** » 18 Dec 2014 17:27

UB, if you remember years ago India had tipped off Mushy of an assassination plot against him. AD might have gone to the pak embassy for the same.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 18 Dec 2014 17:35

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... on-terror/
Zakiur Rahman Lakhvi’s trial exposes Pakistan’s double standards on terrorism

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/zaki ... 07598.html
Lakhvi bail shocker: Hope Pakistan will appeal, says Rajnath Singh

http://www.outlookindia.com/news/articl ... kam/873299
Bail to Lakhvi a Setback: 26/11 Prosecutor Nikam

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.co ... errorists/
26/11 mastermind Lakhvi gets bail: Where does that leave Nawaz Sharif’s promise to eliminate all kinds of terrorists?

http://www.ndtv.com/article/opinion/the ... age-636567
The Lakhvi Outrage

I could go on and on with the headlines but this is where Modiji's masterstroke stands out. He is now an international leader and the optics that go with it are very important. That does not mean the optics cannot be an optical illusion.

Modi has ended up creating a contrast between his position wrt to Pakistan's position.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 18 Dec 2014 17:41

pankajs wrote:
I could go on and on with the headlines but this is where Modiji's masterstroke stands out. He is now an international leader and the optics that go with it are very important. That does not mean the optics cannot be an optical illusion.

Modi has ended up creating a contrast between his position wrt to Pakistan's position.

I hope it is intentional on part of our PM. But even if unintentional, there is just one word - Brilliant! In an event watched by the whole globe, the Pakistani double play stands exposed while India remains the eternal good boy.

... and this is how the Cookie Crumbles for Pakistan?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 18 Dec 2014 17:58

^
just to clarify, we do not need to be "the eternal good boy" and in fact the last 65+ years of non-performance has been because of this need to be seen as the good boys of the international system, to impress the gora lords of the world and earn their pat on the back.

We just need to ensure that the sound and the optics emanating out of India are soothing, conciliatory on the surface. We should carry a big stick BUT speak softly.

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 18 Dec 2014 17:58

deejay-ji , lets not go down the "whole world" road. Nothing to be benefitted from that. It appears as if we are seeking approval. As it is monkeys like German Amb. are trying hard to play go-between in Kashmir. The last thing we want is whiteboy in the middle with brownies in the side (like Arafat-Klingon..err..Clinton-Rabin picture )
(Insignificant) me personally am not too pleased . 2 min silence in schools and also in Parliament. Did we do that for 26/11? Pakis 'll get all sorts of ideas with Indian candle kissing.
It is my firm belief that Pakis ( and Amreekis) understand only pain. To that end, we must calibrate all our words and actions.

Ashok Sarraff · Post by **Ashok Sarraff** » 18 Dec 2014 18:01

Just an observation, at the time when India launches ATV and GSLV mark-3, Pakistan, well...

habal · Post by **habal** » 18 Dec 2014 18:04

& super-dooper noclear power pakistan will launch a massive terror strike .. huh

& India will do what with ATV and GSLV ??

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 18 Dec 2014 18:08

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 560179.cms

Taliban attack: Pakistan army retaliates, kills 57 militants

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan army retaliated to the the deadly Taliban attack at Peshawar school by killing 57 militants in massive airstrikes in the Khyber tribal region where the suicide bombers were reportedly trained.

The army launched 20 airstrikes on Wednesday on several Taliban hideouts in Tirah valley area of Khyber tribal region which is adjacent to Peshawar and killed 57 militants, an army spokesman said.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 18 Dec 2014 18:27

The radicalization of Peshawar (worth reading if you have the time):
http://www.dawn.com/news/1151633/what-d ... d-our-sons

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 18 Dec 2014 18:35

Modi will milk this later. Like at some Intl stage he will use these gestures to make a point. These gestures don't cost us anything...it is a one off thing. Its not like we are giving pakis anything tangible.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 18 Dec 2014 18:36

krishnan wrote:some arsehole in FB says "God Bless Beautiful Pakistan!!"

It does not need gods' blessing to counter mullahs and the army. Even as Khan and Lizard watch from the pavilion. Gods have to work against four pawarfool entities. Davivam nindru kollum.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 18 Dec 2014 19:03

Firstpost ‏@firstpostin 42m42 minutes ago

#Pakistan to execute 55 inmates on death row after stay of death penalty lifted http://bit.ly/1x2bqGQ

Will be interesting to watch baki's anti-terror campaign. Will there be a jail break attempt?

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 18 Dec 2014 19:08

Pakis protesting infront of lal masjid
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https://twitter.com/hashtag/lalmasjid?f ... e&src=hash

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 18 Dec 2014 19:25

Sorry if I sound insensitive or desensitized. Raheel Sharif rushing to Afghanistan threatening 'hot pursuit' makes me smile. None of the tears shed would have flowed if it had not been an Army school. Navy/AF would drawn a lesser reaction. And God forbid, any ordinary school for Abduls (if such things exist in Pakistan) would have elicited a yawn at most.

The real fear among the PA is now that the soft underbelly is now the target of Fidayeen and that any 'retaliation' by AD for another Mumbai could easily be masked.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 18 Dec 2014 19:26

Guys, nothing has changed. Here is my take on TSP releasing 26/11 pigLeT Lakhvi. And it doesn't need an ISRO scientist's brain, just BR's know your TSP 101. TSPA and their RAPE will act just like US, after all, they are TFTA onlee. So it will "good" taking on "evil" by rounding up anyone they think is TTP and blowing the smithereens out of them (and they might even use this bloody fraud that the slaughter was because the kids wanted to go to school). And in preparing for that, they have to re-assure the "good" terrorists, Hafeez pig & Co, that they are indeed "good" and must continue the "good" work against India.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 18 Dec 2014 19:30

The images of the dead terrorist don't belong to peshwar attack.
https://www.facebook.com/BaraNews.Onlin ... 5742357677

More CTs for Pakis

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 18 Dec 2014 19:54

LOL - just had an aha moment.

It now occurs to me that the Haphuss Saeed rally and release of Zakiur Rehman Yuckwe are "revenge" for stopping talks. The shitistanis are saying "OK - you don't talk and we will release the people whom you fear". fear indeed. In fact it is a really good thing these people have been released and are roaming free. The pretence that was started by the Waitress dynasty and Mr Kowtow has to end.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 18 Dec 2014 19:55

ChandraV wrote:http://tribune.com.pk/story/808037/hono ... with-acid/

MULTAN:

A boy attacked his aunt with acid on Tuesday accusing her of loose morals. The woman was taken to Nishter Hospital where doctors treating her said her condition was critical.

Police said Asfar*, 16, a resident of village Jalalpur Khaki, Shujabad, had attacked Sehrish, 24, his aunt, a daily-wage worker and a mother of two.

I betcha the boy tried tricks with his 24 year old aunt - a fine age for any woman to be, and he got turned down.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 18 Dec 2014 19:59

shravan wrote:Pakis protesting infront of lal masjid
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https://twitter.com/hashtag/lalmasjid?f ... e&src=hash

One should make a record of what Abdul Aziz says at the Lal Masjid! He would be showering some cursing on the Army!

arun · Post by **arun** » 18 Dec 2014 20:11

pankajs wrote: .................... {Headlines regards release of Lakhvi on bail snipped.} ..........................

I could go on and on with the headlines but this is where Modiji's masterstroke stands out. He is now an international leader and the optics that go with it are very important. That does not mean the optics cannot be an optical illusion.

Modi has ended up creating a contrast between his position wrt to Pakistan's position.

“Optics” is the problem. Just as the previous Congress Government was about dossiers our Prime Minister Modi’s Government seems to be all about “Optics” and “Sound Bites”.

Damn the contrast, let us have disproportionately punitive action that is clearly visible to us the electorate.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 18 Dec 2014 20:24

Pointed out on Barkha Dutt's show was the fact that Pakistan lawyers were not working because of the three day mourning for Peshawar, so why was the Pakistan Anti-Terrorism Court working today to give bail to Lakhwi?

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 18 Dec 2014 20:38

The paki "liberal" scumbags are now pulling this line out of their bunghole.

"your PM Modi was granted bail for pogrom of moslems, so don't pontificate about Zakhoor Le Terroriste"

Facts are optional when pakis retort in this manner, but then, it is the italian waitress and the spineless yes-man/old f@rt who was warming the PM's seat for her son, and their political party (not to mention, the babu mofos who are politically compromised, and there are a lot of them) played fast and loose with facts that allows these pakis to trot out this line (also repeated by INC supporters online and elsewhere).

This is the standard response of every paki "liberal" (the ejaz haider/mosharraf zaidi pakjabi types) uniformly when the Indian jokers who felt sorry for them yesterday ask them why the 26/11 mastermind is being granted bail. Glad that pakistan is doing all the hard work of making more Indian aware of truly what kind of scumbags paki "liberals"...silver lining etc.

member_28911 · Post by **member_28911** » 18 Dec 2014 20:47

IF Pakis go on an "hot pursuit" inside Afghanistan targeting Bad Taliban, will this give legitimacy to Indian military action in PoK to target terrorist training camps in case of another terrorist attack? If they can then why can't we.

kancha · Post by **kancha** » 18 Dec 2014 20:52

Earthquake jolts Islamabad, surroundings

The earthquake was so severe that people came out of the houses while reciting religious verses. The intensity of the earthquake was recorded as 5 on the Richter scale.

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 18 Dec 2014 20:55

IF Pakis go on an "hot pursuit" inside Afghanistan targeting Bad Taliban, will this give legitimacy to Indian military action in PoK to target terrorist training camps in case of another terrorist attack?

It is easy to start a shooting war -- but if the capability does not exist to handle worst-case scenarios, the doing such a thing would tactically brilliant, like the pakis and their army. They always start a war and partway through find out that they are about to lose another chunk of their country and have a bunch of their soldiers taken prisoners by the adversary....war does not always need to involve guns. Look at how the US is taking the war to Russia...the point is to destroy the adversary, not squirt testosterone all around and await the results.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 18 Dec 2014 21:22

RajeshA wrote:
shravan wrote:Pakis protesting infront of lal masjid
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https://twitter.com/hashtag/lalmasjid?f ... e&src=hash
One should make a record of what Abdul Aziz says at the Lal Masjid! He would be showering some cursing on the Army!

The paki media is not covering protests at lal masjid!

It is easier to claim that RAA/CIA/MOSSAD did it and wash its hands off while terrorists will be free. At the same time, jihadi chief went to Afghanistan complaining so why do the pakis need to free Lakhvi? Such is the style of peacefuls and pious in the land of pure pakistaniyat.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 18 Dec 2014 21:31

sanjchopra wrote:
A_Gupta wrote:Pakistan is indeed "serious" about pursuing terrorism.
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/26-11 ... tan-636468
As noted already by SSridhar, but now with a link.
>>26/11 Accused Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi Gets Bail in Pakistan

>>A Pakistani court has granted bail to Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, accused of planning the 26/11 attacks in Mumbai in which 166 people were killed six years ago.

>> Lakhvi, a senior commander of the terror group Lashkar-e-Taiba, has been in a prison in Rawalpindi.
In my view, this outcome was expected. The 'nautanki' that was going on in the Pakistan courts was a complete eyewash for Indian and international consumption till Afghanistan was an active theatre. All pretense have been dropped by the Sharief govt and Pakistani army now wrt. India. Now since the gloves are off, maybe it's good that pr!ck is outside rather than inside for Indian agencies to get their hands on him.

Wasn't like the man was having a tough time in prison either. He was getting laid and even managed to father a child, while in prison.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-1 ... e-a-father

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 18 Dec 2014 21:35

Ihope he visits the LOC in full view bravely and then his head and trunk lie separate.

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 18 Dec 2014 21:38

Seriously, WTF is a candle light vigil in Lal Masjid going to acheive, just a charade for the sake of doing something, because it is not possible to do anything worthwhile that can actually make a difference.

Shankk · Post by **Shankk** » 18 Dec 2014 21:38

Altair wrote:Ajit Doval visits PAK High Commission

Has there been any precedent when a NSA visits Pak High commission and pay sympathies? Surely, AD knows Pakis dont give a rodents behind for the gesture. For all purposes the retards in Pak High Commission must believe it was AD who must have spinned it for TTP to attack the army school in first place and AD wanted to look in the enemy eye after stabbing them.
Why visit then?

I don't understand this fetish with AD or being visibly masculine. Why would you suggest such a horrible thing? If India was really so trigger happy, Pakistan would not have existed today. India is a peace loving country and had nothing to do with this incident. Look at what our PM said and did. That is the official line. Let us be satisfied with being arm chair generals and not alter official narrative. Thank you.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 18 Dec 2014 21:51

shiv wrote:LOL - just had an aha moment.

It now occurs to me that the Haphuss Saeed rally and release of Zakiur Rehman Yuckwe are "revenge" for stopping talks. The shitistanis are saying "OK - you don't talk and we will release the people whom you fear". fear indeed. In fact it is a really good thing these people have been released and are roaming free. The pretence that was started by the Waitress dynasty and Mr Kowtow has to end.

There can be another angle to this.

Any attack by a darker green on less darker green accompanied with all the Qu'ranic courtesies and Surahs, actually delegitimizes the less darker green as at all green!

The Higher Jihadi is allowed to slap the Lower Jihadi anytime. Islamabad is called Kafirabad as per Waziristan Masala.

So the only way for the Lower Jihadi to establish his credentials as an equal Jihadi is to show himself more Jihadist. Now holding a good-looking Jihadi like Zaki ur Rehman Lakhvi, the hero of Mumbai 26/11, in prison at the instance of Kufr Hanud, doesn't sound like very Momeen, certainly not like High Jihadi!

Also Haphuss Saeed was called upon to say some nice words at the occasion. Why him? Of course so that the TSPA sounds more Jihadi! This was a time that TSPA needed Haphuss Saeed's support! Release of Lakhvi may have been his precondition.

Now TSPA may go about hunting a few bad Taliban as retaliation, but that would be the Lower Jihadi attacking the Higher Jihadi at the instance of Nassara Amreeka, and that alone does not make TSPA equal Jihadi.

Also the Peshawar Attacks have set a high or low, depending on how one looks at it, standard, which a Jihadi vying for equality as a Higher Jihadi would have to fulfill, and that standard TSPA can only fulfill by attacking India. So NaMo better be in a position to give such a thrashing to TSPA that all their Jihad comes out of them like diarrhea, and shoves them down all the way down to Arzal status!

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 18 Dec 2014 21:56

These responses of releasing lakhvi is being made by the pakistani govt. and the army most likely due to the Indian govt.'s reaction over time that have reduced their options -- just their usual cussedness on display. It is a lot harder for them to spread canards about Indian involvement in the peshawar even among pakistanis given the lovey-dovey and empathetic indian response to the peshawar attack. Not that the TSPA/govt. won't stop trying -- that CT has already been accepted by the jihad-pasand crowd which is a majority of the local populace anyway.

member_28921 · Post by **member_28921** » 18 Dec 2014 22:27

My apologies if someone has posted this earlier, but the Peshawar attack is the third instance of large scale violence on children/students in the past decade. The Beslan massacre by Chechans is well known, but there is another group which has attacked schools/colleges in the past, repeatedly: Boko Haram.

Before they shot to fame globally for kidnapping schoolgirls, Boko Haram attacked students on at least three occasions:
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Go ... ege_attack : 59 students killed (Feb 2014)
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yobe_State_school_shooting : 42 students and staffers killed (July 2013)
3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gujba_college_massacre : 44 students and teachers killed (September 2013)

Possibly because these attacks were in interior Nigeria and weren't covered live on television by global media (perhaps due to inaccessibility of the regions), they are not so well remembered. I think these (Beslan, Nigeria, Peshawar) are the only examples in the recent past of organized terrorist groups attacking schools and killing children/students at a large scale. The US school shootings (or Chinese school stabbing attacks) are usually the work of troubled loners, not groups with an ideology.

The Boko Haram cases are more troubling because:
1. This group has repeatedly attacked students/children - so obviously, they feel the advantages (to them) outweigh the bad PR.
2. The scale of their operations seems to indicate that they have a support network running into tens of thousands - after all, you cannot keep 200 children hostage without anyone coming to know about it, unless they are either sympathetic to your aims or you have terrorized them into silence (which means you have thousands of soldiers who can keep a large population in check). What's also worrying is that in the months since the kidnappings, there hasn't been a single news leak from Boko Haram controlled territory to either the Nigerian government or any global media outlet informing them that at least some of the schoolgirls are in such and such place.

TTP and Chechens also are much more than deranged loners - they can't function without an outfit running into hundreds and support network running into thousands. Large, organized groups willing to specially go and kill children in three separate geographies raises some troubling questions.

My apologies in advance if this is off topic.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 18 Dec 2014 22:29

they have adducted 100 more now

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 18 Dec 2014 22:33

KLNMurthy wrote:Cartoonist Sreedhar in Eenadu.net:

Translation: (Pak government): "this is unfair, drinking the milk I gave you and then swallowing our children is a betrayal!"

Murthy Saab....Shared this on my FB...my phoolish yindoo brothers in IT need to know this.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 18 Dec 2014 22:37

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-1 ... chool.html

Taliban Says It Had Hit List of Boys to Kill in Pakistan School

The Pakistani Taliban said it targeted the sons of army officers with a hit list in the massacre of children at a Peshawar school as security officials said one of the deadliest terrorist strikes in the nation’s history was coordinated from militants based in Afghanistan.

“More than 50 sons of important army officers were killed after being identified,” the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan, or TTP, said in an e-mailed statement today. “The auditorium where students of secondary and higher secondary sections were being taught first aid was targeted.”

...
The Taliban have said it is that offensive that prompted the mass killings at the Peshawar school. They demanded in an e-mail yesterday that the army halt its offensive in North Waziristan. They also accused the government of killing Taliban fighters in prison and detaining their family members. The statement threatened more strikes on institutions affiliated with the army and security forces.

An army operation ended the assault on the school about nine hours after it began with all seven terrorists dead, according to military spokesman Bajwa. Some 148 people died, more than 121 people were injured and about 960 were rescued, he said.

Bhell!!! Quite an operation.

sadhana · Post by **sadhana** » 18 Dec 2014 22:41

I think just like Pak Army blackmails the US, JuD/LeT blackmail the Pak Army. Currently Pak Army is under attack and JuD/LeT used this opportunity to press it demands (release Lakhvi, and etc) 'or else'.

One 'or else' could be that JuD/LeT cadres will join TTP.

Either that or Pak Army wants JuD/LeT to go hunt TTP in FATA, and Lakhvi's release is part of JuD/LeT's price.

Or this is 'now is the time for all good terrorists to come together' time for the Pak Army.

eklavya · Post by **eklavya** » 18 Dec 2014 23:04

Hafiz pig and Lakhvi pig are not hiding are they. Locate them (satellite, telephone, humint, whatever) and drop a 2000 lb bomb on them. Put a $100 price on their heads or for information on their location, some poor paki will oblige.