Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec 2014

Virendra · Post by **Virendra** » 02 Jan 2015 09:54

That shift will occur only if & when (middle to high level) PA officers observe that being a fauji afsar is no longer a green pasture deployment.
For that we need the western funds to Pakis to dry out. That is what makes PA a green pasture location.
The day it happened, they'll either gather their loot and scoot to US/Europe; or they'll start milking Paki awaam harder, in which case the inevitable will only be delayed by a few years but will still happen.
As long as west is standing behin Paki state, the latter is as hard to fall as Assad.
I don't see Paki utility to West completely nullified, even after Af pull out and West's changing equations with each of China/Russia/India.

Regards,
Virendra

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 02 Jan 2015 10:00

Joote Parre Tho Banda Bannya
India created trust deficit: Rangers Double G..ndu

LAHORE: Rangers DG Maj Gen Khan Tahir Bahadur Khan on Thursday said that by killing two Rangers personnel at Shakargarh Sector, India had created a trust deficit, making it impossible to resolve minor differences at post level flag meetings.Talking to the media here, he said the incident had generated the need to evolve a new mechanism to resolve minor border, Line of Control or working boundary issues with India.Maj Gen Khan said the incident was unprecedented as Indian Border Security Force (BSF) had requested for a flag meeting. Pakistan Rangers sent two personnel in response and they were asked to wait despite three requests for the meeting. Ultimately, they were fired upon and injured while the Rangers were not allowed to rescue them as a result of which they expired, he said.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 02 Jan 2015 11:02

CRamS wrote:On one practical point, I think PDP has a point, and so does Radha Kumar. And that is whenever TSP ups the ante, this new policy of firing back and punishing TSP is fine, but it is the Kashmiris who bear the brunt of the damage. And this has to stop. No point saying TSP fired and we fired back.

CRS, no, their point [and yours too] is horribly wrong. Of course, when India retaliates, Kashmiris on the other side of the border are going to be affected. But, the impact to the Kashmiris on our side is not because we up the ante or we retaliate more forcefully nowadays. It is TSPA that started the firing. It is TSPA that will continue to fire because of a few reasons, two of them being the emerging situation in Afghanistan and the improving relationship between the US and Pakistan among other reasons. So, for our Kashmiris, the situation is always dire from the cross-border firing by the TSPA. The firing, for example in the Neelum valley, was stopped some years back only when we began to respond forcefully which resulted in protests by Kashmiris on the Pakistani side against the TSPA for inviting the trouble.

I am beginning to see attempts to curb the more muscular response by the incumbent government by raising the suffering of the Kashmiris. BTW, it is not Kashmiris who are being targetted these days. Haven't you noticed the change?

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 02 Jan 2015 11:13

Used to be the case that they used to snipe at the BSF and when our jawans get killed, it used to be attributed to "stray bullets" (bullets keep flying in the air like mosquitoes?). This time apparently they brazenly fired at and killed a BSF jawan, while injuring another with zero deniability. This time, instead of holding flag meetings, we have tried to explain the situation to them using guns. Maybe they will understand.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 02 Jan 2015 11:37

RajeshA wrote:
Chandragupta wrote:The downfall of Islam will begin when Pakistan is split into multiple nations and one of those nations (Sindh? Balochistan?) will dump Islam in mass & blame it on their poor condition and abuse it / expose it in front of the world for what it truly is - a tribal cult, an Arabic design for imperialism. They need to come out & say how they became Muslims by raping, pillaging Arabic warlords and how they want to go back to their own indigenous culture & way of life. That day will cause ripples among the Indian Muslims as well.
Actually there will be many many Subcontinentals who would be willing to dump Islam, but they need to be able to make a case to their peers, that their Islamic leaders are weak and cannot protect even themselves from the wrath of the Hindus, so how can those so-called leaders protect them. Aam Abduls only need a nudge, but they all desire that the Islamic ghazis and mullahs do not have any capacity left to intimidate them.

The Khauf of apostasy, can only be broken, if the Khaufnaaks are made to feel a higher Khauf of Kufr!

Do we have any data on the effect of the death penalty for apostasy on retention of converts to Islam? How frequently was the punishment or threat applied, for example?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 02 Jan 2015 11:39

India created trust deficit: Rangers DG - DAWN

By retaliating ?!

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 02 Jan 2015 11:39

>>No point saying TSP fired and we fired back.

Why not? That is the essence of justifiable violence.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 02 Jan 2015 11:45

From TFT

A member of parliament belonging to The Man of Steel’s camp owed someone Rs 3 million. Having failed to recover their money, the lenders got the parliamentarian kidnapped. They had intended for the kidnappers to keep the gent for a few days until his family paid the money. Before the gent’s family could get in touch with the gang, they sold the fellow on to a group in North Waziristan. The latter asked the gent’s family for Rs 10 million in ransom. When The Man of Steel heard of it, he gave hell to the lender, who’d got the gent kidnapped in the first place. The lender (who was owed Rs 3 million by the kidnapped gent) ended up paying the North Waziristan gang Rs 10 million to get him back! Lenay kay denay parr gaye, as they say.

When they are not freeing Afghanistan and Cashmere, they have a nice kidnapping racket going on.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 02 Jan 2015 11:51

SSridhar wrote: ...
[article about Maududi]

He now emerged with the theory that it wasn't really the greatness of modern Western thought that had been entirely responsible for the rise of European political power, but it was due to lack of conviction of the Muslims to practice their faith in the right manner that had triggered their fall and made room for European powers to enter.
...

Maududi is not wrong about the "conviction" or stubborn clinging to green-ness as a source of strength in prevailing against non-Muslim civilizations. On BRF it is standard to make fun of this greener-than-green ferocity, but it can be the "immovable object" in any fight that will make Islam a formidable force.

You can be a pakistan in every sense of the term, but it wouldn't matter in the fight because all you do is fight with full conviction about your belief. You are not bound by any metrics of ethics or rationality or looking good to others. It's the purest weapon there is.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 02 Jan 2015 11:54

Pak-India skirmish - Edit, Dawn

In typically murky circumstances, with both sides trading accusations and offering contradictory accounts, several Pakistani, and at least one Indian, border guards were killed — the only certainty being that both sides did fire on the other.

What is alarming about the latest, however, is that the Pakistani version suggests that two Rangers were lured into a flag meeting with their Indian counterparts and then killed in a hail of gunfire.

If true, it would be an astonishing breach of the rules of engagement and would surely make managing the peace in an already fraught environment infinitely more difficult.

Also worrying is the Indian defence apparatus’s seeming determination to resort to the use of disproportionate force and then boast about its disproportionate response. When responses are measured in multiple killed for every dead body, something is surely terribly amiss. . . .

. . . . On the Pakistani side, it seems inconceivable that with an army heavily deployed in Fata on counter-insurgency duties and a military leadership preoccupied with the response to domestic terrorism in the wake of the Peshawar carnage, conflict with India is part of the agenda at the moment.

Pakistani propaganda machinery put to work.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 02 Jan 2015 12:12

KLNMurthy wrote: Maududi is not wrong about the "conviction" or stubborn clinging to green-ness as a source of strength in prevailing against non-Muslim civilizations. On BRF it is standard to make fun of this greener-than-green ferocity, but it can be the "immovable object" in any fight that will make Islam a formidable force.

You can be a pakistan in every sense of the term, but it wouldn't matter in the fight because all you do is fight with full conviction about your belief. You are not bound by any metrics of ethics or rationality or looking good to others. It's the purest weapon there is.

This *used* to be true but not so much anymore due to the exponential increase in the size of human (and Islamic) population. Islamic tribes and invaders who actually succeeded in ceding territory from the Kaffir were very small in number (From the Battle of Badr to Babbur the barbarian). It is not due to accident that it is so, it is because in a small tribe everyone can be the same color of green. Such a tribe can be formidable, especially when it possesses some sort of asymmetrical capability with those who are conquered. Back in the day, this asymmetrical capability was the capability to inflict horrific, mind numbing violence with a consistency matched only by the European Christian barbarians.

There are a few factors I can think of that that go against it in the current day:
1) Large population would mean too many mullahs and since its history centric cult it would necessarily mean differences of opinion. These things can only be settled by extreme violence. Hence, the purest weapon has a barrel that can be turned around and shoved in its own backside.

2) Islamic barbarism is seriously being exposed by the media, especially SM.

3) Without nuclear weapons, a small tribe of Islamists will be annihilated if they go against any kind of regular fighting force. They can try with as much consistency as they want, their death is certain without much loss of life or property on the other side. Take the Palestinian conflict or even Cashmere for that matter.

(3) does not apply if the larger enemy is a muslim country, especially if its Bakistan, for obvious reasons.

As long as India is a non-muslim majority country we should be good. The day Hindus become a minority, Islamic Chaos 101 will be in effect in India.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 02 Jan 2015 12:16

SSridhar wrote:India created trust deficit: Rangers DG - DAWN

By retaliating ?!

How to humiliate Kaffirs? By killing or injuring them on auspicious/happy/festive days. Previously, to prove their Ghaziness, they opened fire on Oct 5 (Bakrid), now again on Jan 1 (New Year). Initial one was pure Ghaziness, and later one was somewhat like testing resolve of NDA govt. Both times, they got more severe beating.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 02 Jan 2015 12:24

>>but it wouldn't matter in the fight because all you do is fight with full conviction about your belief. You are not bound by any metrics of ethics or rationality or looking good to others. It's the purest weapon there is.

I disagree that it is the purest weapon there is, but even if it were so, the above applies only in a personal warfighting environment - swords, bows/arrows/, guns, etc... Droneacharya does not discriminate. Therefore, reason is forced upon the believer. Hence the believers supplicate for end to drone strikes, and/or for transfer of drones or drone technology.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 02 Jan 2015 12:31

^^^ Maintaining Technological superiority and dominance against any Islamic country is a must. Technology denial to Islamic countries must also be another thing that should be religiously followed. Basically prevent any Islamic country from getting an asymmetric advantage.

Ultimately our fate would be determined by technological superiority/dominance and our population. If population starts going down, we better be far far ahead in weapons technology. Our population is going to peak in 2020.

Bakistani rat and snake population will peak in 2100 and they will probably be as populous as India in about 40 - 60 years. At that time, if we only have "parity" in weapons we are as good as dead and we can kiss Bharath goodbye.

"Something" must happen before that. Either Bakistan chopped up into small internecine fragments, or we are so far ahead in technology that our technology makes Bakis vaporize the moment they dream of crossing the border.

habal · Post by **habal** » 02 Jan 2015 12:58

burial ceremony for the 'rangers' killed in firing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO6rOnuDD8k

look at the kind of living spaces these common TSPA jawans have. No wonder that the paki karnail & jarnail doesn't think twice before putting these lives on the line with some gimmick or other. For the RAPE, these folks are dispensible canon fodder.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 02 Jan 2015 14:08

JE Menon wrote:>>but it wouldn't matter in the fight because all you do is fight with full conviction about your belief. You are not bound by any metrics of ethics or rationality or looking good to others. It's the purest weapon there is.

I disagree that it is the purest weapon there is, but even if it were so, the above applies only in a personal warfighting environment - swords, bows/arrows/, guns, etc... Droneacharya does not discriminate. Therefore, reason is forced upon the believer. Hence the believers supplicate for end to drone strikes, and/or for transfer of drones or drone technology.

Excuse the OT blease.

By "purest weapon" I mean that it is a weapon for its own sake, and nothing else: there are not the normal human social considerations that give the weapon a purpose and context.

I don't say that Islam will necessarily win by virtue of its pure weapon nature, but surely it reduces the options and increase the burden for anyone wishing to defeat it or even survive it in the long run. If the question, "to what higher end are we killing and dying?" is meaningless to a devout Muslim, then Muslims can keep up the fight for generations until a weakness eventually manifests itself in their prey.

The indoctrination about a sexual post-mortem utopia is an inoculation against normal fear of death and inculcates a culture of sacrifice: if they die trying to win, it will benefit their ummah in another time and place. Even if this is mostly theoretical, I think it does provide for that extra edge of aggression when confronting the prey culture.

I think this is the force Maududi was trying to arouse and harness. His recommendation to know and understand the adversary in order to overcome him is something we can take to heart as well.

Is TSPA engaging in an attempt to take the pure weapon (or kabila) nature of their religion to the next step of running a complex modern fighting machine? In which they use xerox khan techniques to get hold of technology at a usable level, even if they can't get the credit of being its originators?

In any case, I wouldn't easily dismiss Islam's strengths as a predatory religion as solely or majnly applicable to the bow-and-arrow era. Muslim conquests and history of their wars, I believe, present a picture of a predator that has been capable of adapting in complex ways.

member_23658 · Post by **member_23658** » 02 Jan 2015 15:20

pak terror boat blows itself up when chased by coast guard

Buggers were definitely trying another Mumbai type attack

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 02 Jan 2015 15:26

Amol.D wrote:pak terror boat blows itself up when chased by coast guard

Buggers were definitely trying another Mumbai type attack

Meh. Its a safety feature in pakistani boats, like if it was attacked by a "Jaws" sized shark. Any pakistani boat will do the same if you try to inspect it. What do you thin they ply -- fish?

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 02 Jan 2015 15:34

They were going on a meet Osama trip I think. Anway... RIH pigs...... R for Roast.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 02 Jan 2015 15:51

Amol.D wrote:pak terror boat blows itself up when chased by coast guard

A major terror attack that we were expecting has been nixed. But, this could be just one while others are trying to sneak through other routes, including land routes from Nepal or Bangladesh or even Bhutan. The South Indian sea route is also likely because of Sri Lanka developing itself as another ISI outpost.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 02 Jan 2015 15:58

GAURAV C SAWANT ‏@gauravcsawant 19m19 minutes ago
Pak boat 'blows itself off' 365 kms off Porbandar after hour long chase by Coast Guard ship. Warning shots fired. 4 it seems were on board

GAURAV C SAWANT ‏@gauravcsawant 17m17 minutes ago
Pak boat had left Keti Bunder, Karachi. Based on Int Input Coast Guard Dornier spotted boat. Alerted ship. High seas chase: MoD

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 02 Jan 2015 16:02

^^^ There is an alert in Bihar (at least since yesterday). 07-08 guys may have entered through Nepal route (Raxual border as per chaiwalla).

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 02 Jan 2015 16:06

PRC blaming Pak and Afgn for propagandu and mischief-mongering amongst its sinkiang population.

https://soundcloud.com/bbc-world-servic ... m-worked-1

(Above is a bbc audio)

arun · Post by **arun** » 02 Jan 2015 16:08

abhishek_sharma wrote:GAURAV C SAWANT ‏@gauravcsawant 19m19 minutes ago
Pak boat 'blows itself off' 365 kms off Porbandar after hour long chase by Coast Guard ship. Warning shots fired. 4 it seems were on board

GAURAV C SAWANT ‏@gauravcsawant 17m17 minutes ago
Pak boat had left Keti Bunder, Karachi. Based on Int Input Coast Guard Dornier spotted boat. Alerted ship. High seas chase: MoD

Ministry of Defence Press Release via Press Information Bureau on the “fishing boat” from the Islamic Republic that scuttled itself:

Press Information Bureau
Government of India
Ministry of Defence
02-January-2015 16:05 IST

Coast Guard Intercepts Suspect Boat Carrying Explosives in Arabian Sea

An intelligence based midnight operation was conducted on the intervening night of Dec 31 and yesterdayby the Indian Coast Guard ships and aircraft to intercept a suspect fishing boat in Arabian Sea near Indo-Pak maritime boundary, approximately 365 km from Porbander.

As per the intelligence inputs received on 31st December, a fishing boat from KetiBunder near Karachi was planning some illicit transaction in Arabian Sea. Based on the input, Coast Guard Dornier aircraft undertook sea - air coordinated search and located the suspect fishing boat. Thereafter, the Coast Guard ship on patrol in area was diverted and intercepted the unlit boat at about midnight of 31st December in position 365 km West-South West of Porbandar.

The Coast Guard ship warned the fishing boat to stop for further investigation of the crew and cargo; however, the boat increased speed and tried to escape away from the Indian side of maritime boundary. The hot pursuit continued for nearly one hour and the Coast Guard ship managed to stop the fishing boat after firing warning shots. Four persons were seen on the boat who disregarded all warnings by the Coast Guard ship to stop and cooperate with investigation. Soon thereafter, the crew hid themselves in below deck compartment and set the boat on fire, which resulted in explosion and major fire on the boat.

Due to darkness, bad weather and strong winds, the boat and persons on board could not be saved or recovered. The boat burnt and sank in the same position, in early hours of 1st January. Coast Guard ships and aircraft are continuing operations in area to search for any possible survivor. Coast Guard and other security agencies are maintaining high vigil in maritime and coastal areas since last couple of months due to several inputs on threat from the sea.

Sitanshu Kar/

From here:

MOD Release via PIB

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 02 Jan 2015 16:12

Good job, Coast Guards and Intelligence agencies!

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 02 Jan 2015 16:28

Shiv Aroor ‏@ShivAroor 2m2 minutes ago
Here's the Pak boat that blew itself up after a 60-min chase from the Indian Coast Guard yesterday. Explosives?

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 02 Jan 2015 16:37

How NTRO, Coast Guard stopped explosive-laden Pak ship

A timely intercept by the National Technical Research Organisation, and its well coordinated operation with the Coast Guard foiled what could have been a repeat of a 26/11-type intrusion that led to the massive attack on Mumbai in November 2008.

At least, four unidentified persons were killed and a Pakistani fishing boat was blown up in the middle of the Arabian Sea in the early hours of January 1, security and intelligence sources have said.

According to top sources, the NTRO chanced upon a conversation emanating from Karachi which spoke about transferring vital equipment to receivers on the western coast of India. The person on the phone also boasted that the cost of each equipment ran into lakhs of rupees.

On hearing this, the NTRO kept a close watch and then again chanced upon another talk that said the 'receivers' have been paid handsomely to transport the consignment further.

The Coast Guard and navy, already on alert because of heightened tension with Pakistan were then informed. The Coast Guard kept a close vigil through the day on December 31.

Around 11 pm on New Year's eve a suspicious boat was spotted about 200 km off the coast of Porbandar. It was bobbing in mid sea and didn't show the usual activity of a fishing boat. Moreover, no Pakistani fishing boat travels so far away from its coast.

Their suspicions aroused, a Coast Guard ship sought to intercept the boat and investigate. Instead of cooperating, the fishing boat headed back towards Karachi.

As the chase began, several warning shots were fired. After an hour, perhaps running low on fuel, the occupants set the fishing boat on fire.

Several loud explosions occurred and a massive fire broke out on the boat. At least four men were spotted on the boat before it sank, a ministry of defence statement said.

Going by the intercepts and the movement of the boat, intelligence sources conclude it was carrying deadly explosives and possibly guns meant for delivery on India's western seaboard to a predetermined spot and a group of people.

It is not clear if the target was Mumbai like November 2008 or any other spot on the western coast.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 02 Jan 2015 16:40

Shiv Aroor ‏@ShivAroor 38s38 seconds ago
Don't want to rain on the Coast Guard's parade, but this whole 'setting itself on fire' thing sounds a little neat. Just saying.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 02 Jan 2015 16:54

If you are drinking along with the business neuj, the word to chug/empty glass is "shipping insurance" todin.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 02 Jan 2015 17:04

AhmadiyyaTimes: [NEWSDESK] India: Muslim extremist upset over visas for Ahmadis burn effigy of Modi government http://t.co/oOlOVBrj92

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 02 Jan 2015 17:07

abhishek_sharma wrote:Shiv Aroor ‏@ShivAroor 38s38 seconds ago
Don't want to rain on the Coast Guard's parade, but this whole 'setting itself on fire' thing sounds a little neat. Just saying.

We ARE talking about the Soosai Vest Generashun, hain? May have jumped ship, but it's a long swim. What prospects did the herrows face, 300 km out at sea, spotlight from helo pinning them, out of fuel, coast guard standing safely off?

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 02 Jan 2015 17:13

Funny! Malloostan Neuj has already declared that the 4 were "Lashkar" terrorists.
Point to note is that IN /CG showed willingness for hot pursuit faar from 12-mile limit.

Latest: TSPA radio recovered.

sunnyP · Post by **sunnyP** » 02 Jan 2015 17:17

“Due to darkness, bad weather and strong winds, the boat and persons on board couldn't be saved or recovered. The boat burnt and sank in the same position, in early hours of 1st January,” the ministry said. The coast guard and other security agencies in India are continuing to undertake search operations in the area.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/india-inter ... 1420198186

Will it be possible to retrieve the wreckage (for intelligence purposes) or is this a needle in a haystack type situation?

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 02 Jan 2015 17:29

abhishek_sharma wrote:Shiv Aroor ‏@ShivAroor 38s38 seconds ago
Don't want to rain on the Coast Guard's parade, but this whole 'setting itself on fire' thing sounds a little neat. Just saying.

Instead of frothing on twitter why not ask coast guard all the questions? And report the answers. Its not like shiv aroor is a journalist or something.

I hate to spend a penny from 8th floor when he is not carrying an umbrella but what really is he implying. Just saying?

Hec hasc never denied he was not in the elevator either. Just saying.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 02 Jan 2015 17:49

K. C. Singh ‏@ambkcsingh 16s17 seconds ago
Mysterious self-#destruction of Pak boat off Guj coast.Normally they jettison contraband& court arrest, unless high value asset on board.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 02 Jan 2015 17:51

CRamS wrote:On one practical point, I think PDP has a point, and so does Radha Kumar. And that is whenever TSP ups the ante, this new policy of firing back and punishing TSP is fine, but it is the Kashmiris who bear the brunt of the damage. And this has to stop. No point saying TSP fired and we fired back.

After years of complaining(by not just you) that hapless Yindia is weak kneed and not responding to the Baki uniformed and non uniformed terrorists, am surprised that you are now asking us to stop the responses.
May I put it to you that no supa powa is going to act on behalf of us, we have to do the deed ourselves?

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 02 Jan 2015 17:54

UlanBatori wrote:Funny! Malloostan Neuj has already declared that the 4 were "Lashkar" terrorists.
Point to note is that IN /CG showed willingness for hot pursuit faar from 12-mile limit.

Latest: TSPA radio recovered.

the intelligence inputs received on 31st December, a fishing boat from Keti under near Karachi was planning some illicit transaction in Arabian Sea. Based on the input, Coast Guard Dornier aircraft undertook sea - air coordinated search and located the suspect fishing boat. Thereafter, *the Coast Guard ship on patrol in area was diverted and intercepted the unlit boat at about midnight of 31st December in position 365 km West-South West of Porbandar*

The Coast Guard ship warned the fishing boat to stop for further investigation of the crew and cargo; however, the boat increased speed and tried to escape away from the Indian side of maritime boundary. The hot pursuit continued for nearly one hour and the Coast Guard ship managed to stop the fishing boat after firing warning shots. Four persons were seen on the boat who disregarded all warnings by the Coast Guard ship to stop and cooperate with investigation. Soon thereafter, **crew hid themselves in below deck compartment set the boat on fire,** which resulted in explosion and major fire on the boat.

UlanBatori Ji :
* : 365 km West-South West of Porbandar* : This is roughly 350 KM from Karachi and roughly 600 KM fro Mumbai.

** : The Coast Guard Patrol Ship must be have a Speed of about 35 KPH. It took the Coast Guard Patrol Vessel nearly One Hour to reach a few KM from the Vessel. The CGPV must have been at the most 5 KM from the Fishing Boat. IN other words the CGPV travelled about 35 KM so that the Fishing Boat travelled at least 25 KM. Thus this Fishing Boat must have been modified to travel at a higher speed OR POSSIBLY THIS WAS a “Fast Boat”.

In addition thee Fishing Boat’s Crew hid in a below deck compartment , which Fellow Forumites, the CG personnel WITNESSED!

Or did they?

CT : The Terrorists wearing some sort of an Underwater Suit “slipped” into the water on the Boat’s other side NOT VISIBLE TO THE CGPV as it was an hour or so after Midnight.

Finally they were picked up by a Pakistani Navy Submarine possibly a MIDGET! Basta.

sunnyP Ji :

Your Post 02 Jan 2015 17:17

At the point of contact the Water Depth seems to be over 1000 Metres if not more - as per the above mentioned Atlas.

Cheers

SaraLax · Post by **SaraLax** » 02 Jan 2015 18:36

[quote="abhishek_sharma"]Shiv Aroor ‏@ShivAroor 2m2 minutes ago
Here's the Pak boat that blew itself up after a 60-min chase from the Indian Coast Guard yesterday. Explosives?

--- Photos taken off to prevent repeat data ---

Good work on the intelligence & vigilance front by our esteemed protectors !.

I hope this was a 100% shudh desi operation from start to finish sans any intelligence inputs from a foreign country.
This is a good way to spook our padosis, their terrorist pigs. They will be frustrated as we will soon be coming out with more specific details on what their plan was. We should never ever rest - the game will always be moving up to the next level and we need to be ready with newer offense & defense plays in our capabilities.

Maybe many of the members already have this doubt. The first photo appears to have been taken (from a coast guard helicopter/aircraft or was it a drone ?) early on during the surveillance period - when there was enough natural light. But the following 3 fotos appear to have been taken from a ship (must be Coast Guard one) and at this time - it seems to have been quite dark ... early morning on 1st JAN it appears from embedded timing details.

I hope my above understanding is proper.
So did the security operations from coast guard start when there was enough light in the horizon ... 17.00/18.00 hrs on 31st DEC evening itself ?.

Any explanation from knowledgeable people on this light 'discrepancy' in the fotos ?.

I guess many Industrial/Defence facilities are available in the coast of GUJARAT at Jamnagar, Dahej, Pipavav, Mundra and will always be a source of envy for padosis and other death-wishers. ETERNAL VIGILANCE, RELENTLESS SECURITY and FINICKY SUSPICION is but a small price for a society or a nation to pay for its healthy growth & prosperity !.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 02 Jan 2015 18:53

SaraLax wrote: Maybe many of the members already have this doubt. The first photo appears to have been taken (from a coast guard helicopter/aircraft or was it a drone ?) early on during the surveillance period - when there was enough natural light. But the following 3 fotos appear to have been taken from a ship (must be Coast Guard one) and at this time - it seems to have been quite dark ... early morning on 1st JAN it appears from embedded timing details.

I hope my above understanding is proper.
So did the security operations from coast guard start when there was enough light in the horizon ... 17.00/18.00 hrs on 31st DEC evening itself ?.

Any explanation from knowledgeable people on this light 'discrepancy' in the fotos ?.

I guess many Industrial/Defence facilities are available in the coast of GUJARAT at Jamnagar, Dahej, Pipavav, Mundra and will always be a source of envy for padosis and other death-wishers. ETERNAL VIGILANCE, RELENTLESS SECURITY and FINICKY SUSPICION is but a small price for a society or a nation to pay for its healthy growth & prosperity !.

A Dornier was sent to identify and keep an eye n the boat. Once confirmed the boat set out after it.

I suspect they will have both debris (flotsam) collected and recorded conversations.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 02 Jan 2015 19:01

SaraLax wrote: Good work on the intelligence & vigilance front by our esteemed protectors !.
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Maybe many of the members already have this doubt. The first photo appears to have been taken (from a coast guard helicopter/aircraft or was it a drone ?) early on during the surveillance period - when there was enough natural light. But the following 3 fotos appear to have been taken from a ship (must be Coast Guard one) and at this time - it seems to have been quite dark ... early morning on 1st JAN it appears from embedded timing details.

SaraLax Ji :

Wouldn't the "Fishing Boat" Notice a Coast Guard Helicopter/Aircraft-Dornier or a Drone"?

Cheers