Internal Security Watch

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 23 Jan 2015 23:12

Raza says two PMs in 1990s, other one being Gowda. This is an indication what happens when 3rd far$ forms govt. To keep the kursi intact they will reveal deep secrets.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 23 Jan 2015 23:15

google for Morarji Cola

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 23 Jan 2015 23:34

LokeshC wrote:That is sad abd disgusting.

There should be a proper law (just so that it is not left unsaid and therefore ignored) not to uncover any secret. It is not difficult to understand this just as it is not difficult to understand unraveling of secrets.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 23 Jan 2015 23:39

"just speculating"-

it is well known though not much in evidence that some ex pms have compromised national security.

Nothing was mentioned by earleir regimes.

now why this, just before ombaba visit.
is it is to put pressure on uncle that they have been involved in suppressing India.

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 23 Jan 2015 23:50

Even Mr. B. Raman stated quite explicitly that Gujral dismantled India's assets in Pakistan during his very short tenure as PM, so these things are well beyond speculation at this point. The Defense Minister is just emphasizing how wrong things have been for the past couple of decades at the highest levels of government in New Delhi.

Imagine the level of collusion the Indian bureaucracy in covering up these traitorous actions of politicians -- the question is what was the Incentive of the babucracy to cover up these crimes against the State...the answer is most likely personal greed and personal advantage...doesn't really help the babucracy to shake things up and lose entitlements like sending their kids to ivy league schools and business houses that profited from all this. One large incestuous clusterf*** was in play in New Delhi/Lutyens.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 24 Jan 2015 00:10

SaiK wrote:big-data news from undie is parikkar blaming ex-pms for some deep asset compromise. msm goes tizzy and begins making news about ik gujaral issue of chopping raw legs. dunno, who will be cooked finally, and will it have some tandoor massala added?

While Gujral and Desai damaged the assets inside Pakistan, MMS did double the damage by letting Paki/enemies inside the political circle.

member_27400 · Post by **member_27400** » 24 Jan 2015 03:40

Data for religious census is out, percentage of Hindus is now below 80%.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... witterfeed

disha · Post by **disha** » 24 Jan 2015 04:03

LokeshC wrote:That is sad abd disgusting.

LokeshC/SanjayM see my responses in Indian Political discussions thread. Morarji Desai may have been a target of a villification campaign as well.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 24 Jan 2015 06:56

here it is
http://www.newindianexpress.com/magazin ... 816098.ece

The great betrayal

4 PMs destroying the security of India

abhik · Post by **abhik** » 24 Jan 2015 08:03

vinod_k wrote:Data for religious census is out, percentage of Hindus is now below 80%.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... witterfeed

It says Hindu share has gone down 2.1% and Muslim share has gone up by 0.8%, then who has gained the rest? I guess we will have to wait for the official numbers.

nagesh · Post by **nagesh** » 24 Jan 2015 09:02

Not just the PMs ,we have an ex-Defence Minister too,who was never trusted by the army top brass.An Ex Vice Admiral once remarked,how he would prevent Mulla Mulayam from having custody of any files..Found ways to do so.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 24 Jan 2015 10:06

nagesh wrote:Not just the PMs ,we have an ex-Defence Minister too,who was never trusted by the army top brass.An Ex Vice Admiral once remarked,how he would prevent Mulla Mulayam from having custody of any files..Found ways to do so.

The sukhoi saga

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 25 Jan 2015 11:46

If this report is true, then looks like the intelligence agencies have improved their skills and working in unison. I really liked the way the Jehadi (with a Paki wife) was caught after he completed all immigration facilities at Mangalore Air port. He thought he has just escaped when the bobbies came in singing -Ajee rooth kar ab kahan jaayiyega.., jagaan jaayiyega, hamein paayiyega

Bengaluru’s Terror Horror
The success of Intelligence apparatus is measured by the ability of the security forces to prevent or thwart a terror act. Going by this principle, it is to the credit of the IB, the Karnataka’s Internal Security Division (ISD) and the Bengaluru City Police, who, in a meticulous operation, arrested four jihadi activists belonging to the banned Indian Mujahideen and thwarted what could have been a “blood bath” on the Republic Day, not only in Bengaluru but also in Hyderabad, Bhopal and possibly Delhi.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 25 Jan 2015 13:36

there was an full article in TOI alleging victimization of Bhatkalis a day ago.
the bhatkalis claim some of them went to karachi for trading pre 1947 and stayed on and it is with this community they tend to intermarry usually getting a wife from karachi. why they cannot get a wife from among the huge town here is not very clear...why they have to jump through so many hoops to get a paki wife.
I feel there is some amt of deft encouragement from over there to develop these x-country marital links as it gives both the groom and his relatives(or alleged relatives) a good solid cover to keep coming back and forth.

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 25 Jan 2015 15:43

chetak wrote:
nagesh wrote:Not just the PMs ,we have an ex-Defence Minister too,who was never trusted by the army top brass.An Ex Vice Admiral once remarked,how he would prevent Mulla Mulayam from having custody of any files..Found ways to do so.
The sukhoi saga

What was the Sukhoi saga? The Sukhoi deal was signed during MSY's tenure as the DM, that's all I know about it.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 25 Jan 2015 17:37

How much weight to give this?
http://www.sunday-guardian.com/news/isi ... a-thousand

K Mehta · Post by **K Mehta** » 25 Jan 2015 18:16

The Congress reaction to the parrikar comment seemed like a confession of guilt. Parrikar did not say Congress but Congress party was reacting as if they were blamed.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 27 Jan 2015 10:11

Crime Branch sleuths nab another suspected militant
For a change, this chap is not from one specific community. He is an Bodo (NDFB) militant hiding in Electronics City, Bengaluru.

The Hindu wrote:Deputy Commissioner of Police (Crime) Abhishek Goel said that the alleged militant, Sanju Bordolai, is from Kamrup district in Assam. He is the ‘Organising Secretary’ of NDFB and had been trained in Bangladesh in the use of weapons. “Bordolai was hiding in Electronic City after the recent massacre in Assam. We nabbed him based on specific inputs.

"We are coordinating with NIA and our Assam counterparts for the future course of action,” Mr. Goel said.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 29 Jan 2015 06:27

Census 2011: The Religious Imbalance Worsens

India's best known demographer, Dr. JK Bajaj digs behind the 24.4% growth rate with respect to the Census of 2011. A must-read.

Census 2011: The Religious Imbalance Worsens

Dr. J.K. Bajaj

The long-awaited religion data for the Census of 2011 has not been published yet. But it seems that some journalists have been allowed to have a quick look at the figures. Consequently, many stories have appeared in the press; already several articles have been written to reassure the Hindus that the share of Muslims in the population of India has not really changed by too much and there is no serious demographic imbalance developing between different communities in India. But the reported figures seem anything but reassuring.

Muslims grow by 24.4 per cent against national average of 17.7 per cent

According to the reports, the Muslim population has grown by 24.4 per cent between 2001 and 2011. Average growth of the total population during the decade has been only 17.7 per cent; the growth of Hindus is much lower at only 14.5 per cent. The reports and various articles try to convey that the Muslim growth may be higher compared to the average, yet their rate of growth has declined substantially in comparison to the previous decade, when the Muslim population had grown by 29.50 per cent. But what is critical in maintaining the demographic balance between different communities is not the absolute rate of growth but the gap between their respective growth rates. The Muslim rate of growth in 2011 is nearly 38 per cent above the national average; in 2001, the gap between the growth of Muslims and the national average was somewhat lower at 36.8 per cent. The rate of growth of Hindus, on the other hand, has declined about 20 per cent below the national average. This is a matter of great concern. We shall discuss the large decline in the rate of growth of Hindus in greater detail towards the end of this article.

Muslims gain 0.8 percentage points in their share

Another figure highlighted in the press reports is the rise of 0.8 percentage points in the share of Muslims in the population; they form 14.2 per cent of the population in 2011 compared to 13.4 per cent in 2001. The reports suggest that this increase of a mere 0.8 percentage points is small and not a matter of any concern. But this level of increase in the share of a significantly large minority community can hardly be considered small. It implies an increase of 8 percentage points in a century; that kind of change is large enough to drastically alter the social, political and geographical balance between communities.

It is also suggested that the imbalance in the growth rate of Muslims and others is a temporary phenomenon that is unlikely to continue for long. But there is nothing in the data to suggest any correction of the imbalance. In fact, if the figure of 0.8 percentage point rise in the share of Muslims during the last decade is indeed correct, then it would be the third time in a row that they would have registered such a gain. The share of Muslims had risen by almost exactly the same 0.8 percentage points between 1981-1991 and 1991-2001; their share was 11.8 per cent in 1981, 12.6 per cent in 1991 and 13.4 per cent in 2001; it is 14.2 per cent now in 2011.

In the earlier decades, the rise in the share of Muslims used to be much smaller, but even in that period a clear rising trend was visible from decade to decade. The share was 10.5 per cent in 1951, 10.7 per cent in 1961, 11.2 per cent in 1971 and 11.8 per cent in 1981.

It is clear from the above that the rise of 0.8 percentage points in the share of Muslims in the population of India is a continuation of an established long-term trend that has continued at least since Independence. In the sixty years between 1951 and 2011, the share of Muslims has increased from 10.5 to 14.2 per cent; two-thirds of this increase has happened in the last three decades alone.

Incidentally, in the period prior to Partition and Independence, the share of Muslims in the part of undivided India that forms the Indian Union now had not increased significantly, and it was actually declining in the part that now forms Pakistan; the share was rising significantly only in the part that now forms Bangladesh. But after Partition, the Muslim share has been rising both in the Indian Union and Bangladesh, very rapidly in the latter. Pakistan, in any case, had become almost entirely Muslim after Partition.

Longer term trend of increase in Muslim share in undivided India

However in undivided India as a whole, the share of Muslims has risen continuously and consistently throughout the period for which the Census data is available. Their share was 20 per cent at the time of the first Census in 1881; it had risen to 24.3 per cent in 1941 before Partition and further to 30.4 per cent in 2001. On the basis of the available figures for 2011, we estimate the share of Muslims in the population of undivided India in 2011 at around 31.8 per cent. Thus the trend of increase in Muslim share in the population seems even stronger for undivided India.

What is critical in maintaining the demographic balance between different communities is not the absolute rate of growth but the gap between their respective growth rates.

Christians form another 2 per cent of the population of undivided India according to official sources. According to the Christian sources, the share of Christians in the population of undivided India is nearer 4 per cent. Christians and Muslims together thus already account for 36 per cent of the population of undivided India. Their combined share in 1881 was only around 21 per cent. The corresponding decline of more than 15 per cent in the share of the religions of Indian origin in the course of 130 years is indeed unusual.

Larger Muslim gains in specific parts of India

Another important aspect of the religion figures of the Census of 2011 that have appeared in the press is the very high growth of Muslims in some of the States of India. According to these reports, the share of Muslims has increased sharply in many parts of India, including in the states of Assam, West Bengal, Kerala, Goa, Uttarakhand, Jammu and Kashmir, Delhi and Haryana.

Muslims now form 34.2 per cent of the population of Assam, which is 3.2 percentage points higher than their share of 30.9 per cent in 2001. This comes on top of gains of about 2 percentage points registered in each of the decades of 1971-81 and 1981-91 and of 2.5 percentage points in 1991-2001. In 1971, the share of Muslims in the population of Assam was only 24.6 per cent; nearly 10 percentage points below the share counted in 2011.

The real story of what is happening to the religious demography of Assam shall be known only when we get the disaggregated data for the districts and taluks. Earlier data indicated that several districts of Assam had become predominantly Muslim and many taluks were on the way to becoming exclusively Muslim. In such taluks, the absolute population of Hindus counted in 2001 was below the count of 1991. Given the surprisingly large rise in the share of Muslims in the State as a whole between 2001 and 2011, Hindus from many other taluks may have been compelled to flee from their homes.

Similarly there are also several districts and taluks in other parts of the country, especiallyin West Bengal, Kerala and Haryana, where Hindus have been reduced to an unviable minority. The impact of the rapid rise in the Muslim share in these States on the Hindus of those vulnerable districts and taluks within them can be assessed only when the detailed disaggregated data are formally released.

Given these trends, the need for the formal release of the complete Census data on religion has become even more urgent.

The substantial rise in the share of Muslims in the population of Kerala is interesting for another reason. In Kerala literacy rates counted in Census 2011 are above 90 per cent for both men and women and Muslim literacy rates there have not been much lower than the average. The much higher rate of growth of Muslims in this State seems to indicate that the gap in the rate of growth of Muslims and the others is not related to literacy alone. In fact, according to the figures of 2001, the literacy rate amongst Muslim women was higher than the average in as many 10 major States of India. In some of these States, the difference in female literacy in favour of Muslims was as high as 10 percentage points. Yet in all these States, the growth rate of Muslims was also higher than the average.

Data on Christians has not been reported yet

While some glimpse has been given of the rise in the share of Muslims in the population of India as a whole and of several States, the reports have almost nothing to say about the share of Christians. From past trends, Christians are likely to record major gains in several parts of the country, including in the Northeast, Tamil Nadu, Chhattisgarh and Orissa. Within the Northeast, the data for Arunachal Pradesh and certain districts of Meghalaya and Assam, where rapid Christianisation had been happening in the earlier couple of decades, would be of particular interest. Census of 2001 also indicated increase in the Christian numbers in several newer areas. Detailed disaggregated data of the Census of 2011 alone shall give a clear picture of the further progress of Christianity in those parts.

Decline in the share of Hindus

A surprising aspect of the data that has been reported is the sharp decline in the share of Hindus in the total population of India. According to these reports, the proportion of Hindus has declined by 2.1 percentage points, from 80.45 per cent in 2001 to 78.35 per cent in 2011. Since the share of Muslims has increased by only 0.8 percentage points, what accounts for the larger decline in the share of Hindus? We do not have the detailed figures yet. But the large decline in the Hindu share is most likely to be associated with a spurt in the number of persons counted under "Other Religions and Persuasions".

In every Census, concerted efforts have been made by certain groups to persuade different communities, particularly among the Scheduled Tribes of India, to get counted outside the Hindu fold. As a consequence of such efforts, 6.6 million Indians were counted under the category of Other Religions and Persuasions (ORPs) in 2001; the number in 1991 was less than 3.3 million. The decline of 2.1 percentage points in the share of Hindus in the count of 2011 suggests that the number of ORPs in this Census may have spurted threefold.

When the Census of 2011 was being conducted, intense campaigns were organised in several parts of India to dissuade people from referring to themselves as Hindus. There was even a campaign to make the Census authorities assign a new religious category in the questionnaire for this purpose. These campaigns seem to have achieved conspicuous success. Detailed disaggregated data on religion shall give us further insight into how this process has actually unfolded in the Census of 2011.

Critical Concerns

The reported figures of the religion data of Census 2011 thus raise several critical concerns. The figures show that:

(a) the gap between the rate of growth of Muslims and the national average has remained high and unchanged

(b) there has been a significant rise in the share of Muslims in the population of the country in conformity with a continuing and worrisome long-term trend

(c) in several States, the growth of share of Muslims in the population has been much higher than the national average, indicative of the development of several predominantly Muslim pockets; and

(d) there has been a sharp decline in the share of Hindus in the total population. We yet do not have any figures for the growth of Christians, which could raise further concerns.

Given these trends, the need for the formal release of the complete Census data on religion has become even more urgent. We shall be able to fully appreciate the extent of change in the religious profile of different parts of India only when the detailed religious figures disaggregated up to at least the taluk level are made available. To understand the phenomenon of rising numbers of ORPs and perhaps also of Christians, it would be also important to have the detailed religion data for the Scheduled Tribes of India. Given the critical importance of these figures for understanding the changing social, political and geographical balance within India, the Census should consider making this data part of the Primary Census Abstracts (PCA), so that the religion figures become available up to the town and village level and can be correlated with various other socio-economic aspects of the population.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 29 Jan 2015 07:40

so it means increased literacy and economic status , which worldwide is taken to imply better family planning has no impact on muslims in india and they are continuing to create large families whether under orders of the Quam or for their own personal ends.

demographic war is being relentlessly waged.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 29 Jan 2015 08:01

Singha wrote:so it means increased literacy and economic status , which worldwide is taken to imply better family planning has no impact on muslims in india and they are continuing to create large families whether under orders of the Quam or for their own personal ends.

demographic war is being relentlessly waged.

singha ji,

tin foil hat on

People are bound to call you out on perpetuating such paranoid CT's and pointing out that EJs of various colors are indeed active. The xtian numbers are not yet out but expect that to be camouflaged and packaged neatly so to be more palatable.

At the end of the day, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a paranoid CT designed to hurt the sickular fabric of the country.

Whether it was pukistan or east timor, the end result was the same. It matters very little whether one is beheaded with a blunt kitchen knife or a sharp ceremonial sword, the head still winds up separated.

and the wahabis and project joshua are just myths onlee.

There are many folks who just will not wake up and smell the coffee.

If all this data had come out before the elections, NaMo would have undoubtedly got an absolute majority in the lok sabha.

Which is why the sly termite queen and her crafty kitchen cabinet buried it.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 29 Jan 2015 15:12

Religious tension grips Meerut as 10 injured in communal violence (IT)

The situation is such, in fact, that incidents of crime have begun to be seen in the light of communalism-criminals seen not as anti-social elements but executors of some sinister conspiracy to undermine other faiths.

At least 10 people were injured on Tuesday night as Hindus and Muslims clashed in Meerut's Sarai Laldas area after two sisters were allegedly molested by a group of local youngsters.

The mob exchanged fire and pelted stones at each other, with the sisters, their brother, two of the alleged culprits and five others sustaining injuries in the melee.

Is there a pattern here or is there a pattern here, eh? Sample this:

Several Hindu organisations have been protesting against two incidents-one alleged abduction and an attempted one-in Bijnore.

One girl has been missing from Sherkot for over a month, while another had a close shave in Haldaur last Thursday when a few youngsters allegedly tried to abduct her.

The BJP has already held a panchayat in Sherkot, and announced a mahapanchayat if the girl is not found and the criminals involved in both cases arrested by Wednesday.

In turn, Barhapur BSP MLA Mohammad Ghazi has threatened to hold a "bigger rally" if the promised mahapanchayat is held. "We will give them a befitting reply," he added.

But BJP's Noorpur MLA Lokendra Singh countered, "If they pelt stones at us, we will reply with bullets." Police officer Ravi Raj Dixit said one of the people accused of the attempted Haldaur abduction has been arrested, while the others would be "caught soon".

Back to this particular case....

"They used to misbehave with my sister every day. This was the reason I started accompanying her. But the criminals molested both of us. When some bystanders dared to come to our rescue, a mob armed with revolvers and batons arrived in support of the criminals," she said.

Their father told the police that the girls were cornered by a group of at least nine people who allegedly tried to abduct them as well. "My daughters were returning from tuition when Anwar Khan, Mohammad Jishan, Harun and half a dozen others molested the younger one. When my elder daughter reacted, they pulled her clothes and thrashed her. They attacked my son when he rushed to save them," he said.

Meanwhile, Anwar's father has approached the police with a different story-that his sons (Anwar and his brother Faizal) were attacked by a crowd.

Even amid this patchwork of testimonies, the local political players have stepped in, taking sides "in the interest of justice".

BJP Uttar Pradesh chief Laxmikant Bajpai arrived at the hospital where the girls are admitted, and said he would make the incident an issue against the ruling SP. "Molesters of a particular community are fearlessly harassing our daughters under the SP's rule. We cannot be mute spectators at any cost," he added.

The communal rhetoric bodes ill for a state where wounds of the 2013 Muzaffarnagar carnage refuse to stop bleeding, scratched repeatedly by myriad attempts to provoke people on religious lines. Uttar Pradesh is burning, and the fire doesn't seem to be receding.

Yes. Zero-tolerance, broken-window theory etc all come into play. Use both state and non-state power to smash these ummah buffoons hard and long a few times - be media savvy and unapologetic about it - and ensure that hard lessons are learned by the (jee)hard quom the hard way. There is no other way, onlee.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 29 Jan 2015 19:55

I think DDM is trotting out Morarji Desai & IK Gujral shenanigans when Parrikar is alluding to Congress role..

Let us see what things will come out.

IOW its false sacrificial lambs being under the bus.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 29 Jan 2015 20:38

It can only refer to one person - Rajiv Gandhi.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 30 Jan 2015 09:57

New saying - An arrest a day, keeps the terrorists at bay...
Man arrested from Karnataka is a member of Bangladeshi terror outfit

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 30 Jan 2015 13:49

The M population increase of 0.8% in the census data was along expected lines. What is surprising was the 2.2% decline in Hindu pop. Thus, an additional decrease of 1.4%. So I looked at the census 2001 data. If the leaked figures are correct "other" and "no religion" category has jumped from 6-7 million to 23-24 million, a jump of 17 million. I think this is becoz of a change in the system of seeking data. The last time leftists had argued that people were not aware of the "other" "no religion" category. I think under leftist pressure with a friendly govt this time instead of just asking the religion they were given options like a multiple choice question. This may have been targeted at people who belong to certain sections. Thus, they were prompted by the UPA govt. We will get a clear picture when we get the entire data.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 30 Jan 2015 14:08

Kashi wrote:
chetak wrote:{quote="nagesh"}Not just the PMs ,we have an ex-Defence Minister too,who was never trusted by the army top brass.An Ex Vice Admiral once remarked,how he would prevent Mulla Mulayam from having custody of any files..Found ways to do so.{/quote}

The sukhoi saga
What was the Sukhoi saga? The Sukhoi deal was signed during MSY's tenure as the DM, that's all I know about it.

the turd jockeyed for the seat, made mucho dinero on the deal and left as quickly after. slick operation onlee.

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 31 Jan 2015 20:32

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/iraq- ... 150131.htm

This woman will probably to be under watch now that she has probably made contact with IS entities in Turkey -- she may have been told that her best contribution would be to "act locally". She was influenced by somebody in Qatar apparently.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 01 Feb 2015 09:10

Hyderabad Woman Drops Plan to Join ISIS, Returns to City From Turkey

"Information is that one lady hailing from Hyderabad city, who has been staying in Qatar for the past 10 years happened to get influenced by another lady residing in her apartment. So both of them went till Turkey, where she changed her mind and she came back to India,"

7 Chennaites Among Nine Who Tried to Enter Syria Held in Turkey

A 46-year-old man and his family comprising his wife and five children from Chennai were among the nine Indians detained by the Turkish authorities on their border while the nine were trying to cross over to Syria.

We know that a few Tamilnadu Muslim men working in Singapore joined ISIS. In Keezhakkarai, dozens sported IS T-shirts recently after the Friday prayer. There are Muslim areas in Tirunelveli & Coimbatore which are 'no go' areas for the police. Al Umma is deep rooted in TN. The South of India has become dangerous from jihadi terrorists.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 01 Feb 2015 19:07

US Consulate terror conspiracy: US hands over evidence linking Pakistani national in conspiracy - PTI, ET

The documents handed over by the US to India in connection with the probe into the plot to carry out terror strikes on American and Israeli consulates in the South have established communication between Sakir Hussain, undergoing jail term in the case, and 'Shahjee', a Pakistani national introduced to the accused allegedly by a Pakistani diplomat working in Colombo.

NIA, which has carried out the probe into the conspiracy meticulously, had sent a request under Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty to the US for details from service provider whose email was being used by Hussain to communicate to his handler in Sri Lanka.

Hussain, who pleaded guilty and is at present undergoing jail term in India, was arrested in April last year by sleuths of Intelligence Bureau with Tamil Nadu police while doing reconnaissance of US consulate in Chennai and Israeli consulate in Bangalore to facilitate a terror strike similar to 26/11. For this, two terrorists were to be flown in from Maldives.

Hussain had named Amir Zubair Siddiqui, who was working as Visa Counsellor at Pakistan High Commission based in Colombo till some time back but had to be repatriated to Islamabad after India mounted pressure on Sri Lanka about his alleged activities targeting this country. Pakistan, however, maintains that he was shifted after completing his tenure in Colombo.

During his questioning, Hussain had named one "Shahjee" who was introduced to him by Siddiqui and all the meetings took place in hotels at Colombo. The accused told the investigators that "Shahjee" was described as second-in- command to the Visa Counsellor.

The response provided by US authorities following the request under the MLAT showed that the account was being operated by "Shahjee" who had provided the name while registering with the email account, official sources said.

There have been email communications with some email addresses in Pakistan and even personal account of Siddiqui, the sources said.

The email account is also alleged to have been operated under the Internet Protocol (IP) address of the Pakistan High Commission in Colombo, the sources claimed.

Late last year, the name of "Shahjee" again surfaced after NIA arrested Arun Selvarajan in Chennai and allegedly recovered some incriminating documents including layout plans of country's defence establishment like the Coast Guards complex.

During preliminary interrogation before being sent to judicial custody, Selvarajan, who is also wanted in Sri Lanka for allegedly supporting banned LTTE terror group, told the officials that he had supplied information about some strategic locations to ISI handlers based in Colombo who were allegedly operating from the Pakistan High Commission, the sources said.

Selvarajan again named Siddiqui and "Shahjee" as his handler and said that his business had been in shambles when he was approached by the two Pakistani officials for allegedly carrying out espionage activities in India, the sources said.

Siddiqui and "Shahjee" were not new names for the Intelligence Bureau as they had cropped up earlier in 2012-13 when security agencies picked up one Tameem Ansari, a frequent flier from Trichy to Colombo.

Ansari was arrested after six months of surveillance in 2012. India has already sent its request under Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty (MLAT) in this case to Sri Lankan authorities last year to help in questioning and gathering evidence from the Island nation.

Ansari was a small trader who sent, among other things, potatoes and onions to Sri Lanka. After reverses in business, Ansai came in touch with Haji, a Tamil-speaking Muslim from Colombo who is alleged to have introduced him to Siddiqui in the Pakistan mission in Colombo, and "Shahjee".

Melwyn · Post by **Melwyn** » 02 Feb 2015 11:35

Meanwhile, the Karnataka govt. takes the state to new heights of Secularism.
Indian Muslims ISIS Jihadis caught in Turkey are let go scot-free in Bengaluru.

BENGALURU: The nine people who were picked up from the Kempegowda International Airport here late on Friday after being deported from Turkey for allegedly trying to enter Syria to join terror outfit ISIS, were released on Sunday. The police said all of them had given an undertaking saying they would not indulge in any such terror-related activity in future.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 090122.cms

sum · Post by **sum** » 02 Feb 2015 11:39

^^ I dont believe state govt will have a big role compared to the central agencies in these kinds of "homecomings".

Am sure central agencies will be keeping a keen eye ( though still dont understand why they arent locked up at first given chance)

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 02 Feb 2015 12:50

rrNDTV extensively covering tear-jerky stories of a 'church vandalization' in south delhi. Holy communalion was descerated and all, apparently. Police say theft motive, faithies reject the suggestion.

Seems to me the psecs are hinting at their next line of attack. They'll stage attacks on sekular places of worship, sow FUD, muddy waters, loudly howl about sanghi oppression and malign India in the western press and govts.

How convenient for western gubmints too, to have a nice little lever of pressure they can apply every now and then against desh, eh? The whole affair smells bigtime only.

sum · Post by **sum** » 02 Feb 2015 13:56

^^ Was very succesfully implemented in Kar to bring down the communal govt there.

No harm in rehashing the template when all other plans failed.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 02 Feb 2015 19:56

But Govt of INC/NC came back to power even after ethnic cleansing of entire Kashmiri Pandit community from Kashmir.

Puts things in perspective: power grab is secular and legit if seculars could do that in Kashmir, but winning elections is not celebrated if alleged-communal came to power. Same for name calling against ghar-wapasi or legit change of heart otherwise.

How do these people sleep at night?

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 02 Feb 2015 21:28

sum wrote:Am sure central agencies will be keeping a keen eye ( though still dont understand why they arent locked up at first given chance)

From what I read this afternoon. One chap is still "inside". I am sure these folks would be monitored, but from what I understand there is no much evidence to detain them. They have done no crime or terrorist act in India. They attempted to cross over to Syria, from Turkey but that does not mean that had plans to join ISIS. The chap from Mumbra who is now "inside", had this fact against him. He did work for ISIS which was listed as a global terrorist organisation, and this was proved. I am sure the intelligence agencies would have got enough and more clues on how these people were induced to go to Syria. As per one report these people wanted to do charity activities organised by "one community" (which means Iyers, Namboodiris etc.) in that area

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gashish · Post by **gashish** » 03 Feb 2015 19:50

India's only woman editor of an Urdu daily, in hiding after reproducing a cover of French magazine Charlie Hebdo, rues the lack of understanding among her journalistic peers. .

The year-old Mumbai edition of the Lucknow-based Urdu daily Awadhnama has been closed down; its editor, 46-year-old Shireen Dalvi is on the run, with FIRs being filed against her on a daily basis across the state.

So are her two children, who've stopped attending college and whom she hasn't met since January 17, the day she reproduced a cover of the French magazine Charlie Hebdo on Page One.

The ensuing furore prompted Dalvi to issue a front page apology the next morning. She also wrote an editorial blaming Charlie Hebdo for provoking Muslims, but she advised Muslims to reply to such provocations with knowledge and wisdom, not violence. She reminded her readers that Islam had been spread by good deeds and love.

The editorial sums up Dalvi's personality: always willing to engage in debate, and looking at everything from both sides. That's why she is hurt that reports about her have been published in some Urdu papers without getting her side of the story.

AIBroast is all over SM and MSM, but zilch on this, which has been going on for weeks apparently. What would be the basis for filing FIR against the editor? Blasphemy?

Melwyn · Post by **Melwyn** » 03 Feb 2015 22:03

amitkv wrote:Meanwhile, the Karnataka govt. takes the state to new heights of Secularism.
Indian Muslims ISIS Jihadis caught in Turkey are let go scot-free in Bengaluru.

BENGALURU: The nine people who were picked up from the Kempegowda International Airport here late on Friday after being deported from Turkey for allegedly trying to enter Syria to join terror outfit ISIS, were released on Sunday. The police said all of them had given an undertaking saying they would not indulge in any such terror-related activity in future.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 090122.cms

The same govt that let the ISIS terrorists go scot free bans VHP leader from entering Bengaluru.
Day by day India is achieving greater heights of secularism.

VHP's Pravin Togadia Banned from Bengaluru for a Week, Says Police

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 03 Feb 2015 22:11

Where are the Pseudos? One of them the Mani was seen supporting the murderers.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 03 Feb 2015 22:12

The country need to rewrite the laws..Secularism must go and Dharmic must come.