Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 1 Feb 2015

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X Posted from the “Pakistani Role In Global Terrorism” thread.

Originating in Islamic Republic of Pakistan, UK born Chemistry Teacher Jamshed Javeed jailed for attempt to indulge in Mohammadden Terrorism. Being born outside the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and being educated was clearly not enough to drum out the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s national predilection for indulging in Mohammadden Terrorism:

Chemistry teacher Jamshed Javeed jailed for Syria jihad plan
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Sartaj Aziz admits no breakthrough in talks with India
Ganje Ke Sirr Mey Khaj/ Chinese KMPD
OSAMABAD: The adviser to prime minister on foreign affairs and national security, Sartaj Aziz, admitted on Friday there was no breakthrough in the recently held talks between India and Pakistan on foreign secretary level, however, he said these talks have opened path for future negotiations.
“There was no date fixed for the next round of talks," Sartaj Aziz told media after attending book launching ceremony of General (retd) Abdul Majeed in Islamabad.Responding to a question, the national security adviser said Chinese President is not coming to Pakistan on March 23rd (to attend the Pakistan day parade), however, will visit Pakistan soon. “The dates for the trio are being negotiated through diplomatic channels between the two countries,” Aziz confirmed.IT is perhaps a testament to the hopes and dreams of many in the region that an overnight stopover in Pakistan, squeezed between visits to Dhaka and Kabul, by a senior Indian bureaucrat can still generate so much interest.Indian Foreign Secretary S. Jaishankar’s visit to Islamabad may have been billed by the Indian government as part of a so-called Saarc yatra, but it was always going to be bilateral issues that dominated the agenda in Islamabad.
For the Pakistani side, the main interest was likely to try and determine how the government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi {Pakistan exist on Indian Validation} is planning to address the bilateral relationship in the immediate future.Is the approach to remain wrapped up in the broader Saarc context, a sign that Mr Modi is content to let ties remain frozen, or is the Saarc emphasis really to provide domestic political cover while Mr Modi engages Pakistan and seeks some genuine progress on the major issues?For New Delhi, the main interest was likely to determine whether the military-dominated, but civilian-fronted Pakistani policy on India is willing to address its concerns about regional terrorism and India-centric militants tolerated by Pakistan.What is discussed behind closed doors though will eventually be reflected in the public positions. If the resumption of full-spectrum talks is the goal, then this hesitant dance dubbed as ‘talks for talks’ is well worth the effort.In truth, on some issues there is really little of substance left to negotiate — Sir Creek and Siachen in particular. And much depends on political will. So how the talks are structured may in fact determine what the outcomes are.Mr Modi has already shown his petulant side by cancelling foreign secretary-level talks last year and the state here has shown its intransigence over the Mumbai attacks-related trials. Political leadership is what’s needed, but will it materialise?
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Jhujar wrote:Sartaj Aziz admits no breakthrough in talks with India
Ganje Ke Sirr Mey Khaj/ Chinese KMPD
Mr Modi has already shown his petulant side by cancelling foreign secretary-level talks last year and the state here has shown its intransigence over the Mumbai attacks-related trials. Political leadership is what’s needed, but will it materialise?
Jhujar Ji :

Indeed Political leadership is what's needed in Pakistan, but with the Baton Twirling Jack Booted martinet having got Nawaz by the short and curlies can only think like a khaki i.e. without any Political nous.

Modi, The Cat, is going to play with all the Mice be they Sartaj Aziz, the good Sharif or the bad Sharrif. We are in for Interesting Times.
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Jhujar wrote:there was no breakthrough in the recently held talks between India and Pakistan on foreign secretary level, however, he said these talks have opened path for future negotiations.
“There was no date fixed for the next round of talks," Sartaj Aziz told media


And contrast this with

Chinese President is not coming[/size] to Pakistan on March 23rd (to attend the Pakistan day parade), however, will visit Pakistan soon. “The dates for the trio are being negotiated through diplomatic channels between the two countries,” Aziz confirmed.


Remember that Pakis lose no opportunity to elevate their ehh and dee especially vis-a-vis India. What senile Aziz doesn't say is as important as what he did stutter out

1. Jaishankar made no offer, commitment or suggestions to resume bilateral talks or even discuss the possibility of talks resuming in the near future.

2. Pakis got trolled big time with the SAARC yatra- all that gloating about Obama armtwisting Modi and it came down to a transit halt in Slumbad enroute to Kabul :rotfl:
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This Pakistani trait of exponentially increasing and visibly displaying its swagger and bravado at the skightest 'perceived' turn of events in its favour is all well known to us. It is again a practice from the All India Muslim League & Jinnah days. I don't know if it goes any deeper than that. But, Pakistan never realizes that Allah Ta'aala has been singularly cruel to it.

And, I totally agree with the following assessment of Peregrine ji
Peregrine wrote:Modi, The Cat, is going to play with all the Mice be they Sartaj Aziz, the good Sharif or the bad Sharrif. We are in for Interesting Times.
The usual Pakistani approach towards India (past INC, Vajpayee, Gujral et al) will not work anymore with Modi.
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Been there
at the age of 96 – Lt Gen (r) Majeed Malik still remembers his childhood in a village near Chakwal.

In his yet-to-be-released memoir titled Hum Bhee Wahan Maujood Thay, (I was there too) – the veteran soldier and politician gives concise and candid accounts of events that shaped the destiny of Pakistan.

Among them is an insider story of the Kargil debacle. He holds Gen (r) Pervez Musharraf, Lt Gen Mehmood, commander of 10 Corps, Maj Gen Javed Hassan, commander Northern Areas, and Lt Gen Tauqeer Zia, director general of military operations, responsible for the botched operation. But he did not absolve Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif entirely of what happened before, during and after the operation.
Gen Malik says he was commanding the 12th Division in 1975 when he received a midnight call from Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto. The prime minister informed him of his new duties as chief of general staff, and hinted that he might succeed then Chief of Army Staff Gen Tikka Khan. Gen Malik was sixth in the seniority list of serving generals, while Gen Ziaul Haq was the seventh.

According to Gen Malik, the Attock Mutiny Case provided Gen Zia an opportunity to develop good ties with Prime Minister Bhutto. Some young officers, deeply disgruntled because of the Fall of Dhaka, had tried to dislodge his government. The conspiracy was detected and all perpetrators were arrested. Gen Zia was chosen to try the accused. Since the prime minister was taking an extraordinary interest in the trial, Gen Zia used to update him every evening.

Once, Prime Minister Bhutto was visiting Multan city, he recalls. Gen Zia, then Corps Commander of Multan, ordered all the officers to line up on both sides of the road to welcome the prime minister.

Then, Gen Zia announced making the prime minister an honorary colonel-in-chief of the Armoured Corps.

The author dedicates a whole chapter to the first military coup in Pakistan. He admits he was among those who executed the martial law while serving as chief of staff of planning at the General Headquarters. He say there had been a consensus between Iskander Mirza and Ayub Khan that martial law should be imposed. Several other senior army officers, including Gen Yahya Khan, Gen Abdul Hameed, Brig Attiqur Rehman and Brig Pirzada, were part of the plan.

It was Gen Malik who had been given the responsibility of transferring the documents and details of the plan to Karachi, then federal capital of Pakistan. There was risk involved, because Ayub Khuhro was the defence minister in Prime Minister Feroz Khan Noon’s cabinet. Mr Khuhro belonged to Sindh and could have jeopardized the entire plan. Just before leaving, Gen Malik asked Brig Attiqur Rehman: “Sir, I understood that if I am caught I would be the only one to face the music. Rest would easily escape.” Brig Rehman replied: “Yes, you have understood it correctly.”

Soon after the military coup, Iskander Mirza and Ayub Khan developed serious differences. In fact, several generals wanted to curtail the powers of President Mirza. Once, Mirza called the Brigade Commander of Malir Cantt and asked him to arrest some generals. The call was intercepted, he says, and Gen Ayub made his decision to get rid of the president. Gen Malik was tasked to obtain the official letterhead of the President of Pakistan, which he did through the president’s military secretary. A resignation was typed on behalf of President Iskandar Mirza, of course without his knowledge. Ayub then sent three of his trusted generals to get it signed. President Mirza was shocked to look at the resignation letter. :((
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Lately the Pakis have been playing victim too much - 'India starts firing', 'India calls soldiers for flag meet and fires', 'India blames us falsely', 'India doesn't talk', 'India using US-Russia to warn China-Pak' ... bla bla ... :roll:
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Virendra wrote:Lately the Pakis have been playing victim too much - 'India starts firing', 'India calls soldiers for flag meet and fires', 'India blames us falsely', 'India doesn't talk', 'India using US-Russia to warn China-Pak' ... bla bla ... :roll:
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Time to sink the Pakistan Navy and Coast Guard

One good day's work should do it. Would save a lot of headaches with the Sri Lankans too.
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UlanBatori wrote:Time to sink the Pakistan Navy and Coast Guard

One good day's work should do it. Would save a lot of headaches with the Sri Lankans too.
It is a hundred miles of border near sir creek. Why cant the coast guard go park at the boundary?
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Attributed to Zulfikar Ali Bhutto: "There is a Bangladesh hidden behind every bush in India".
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http://customstoday.com.pk/pakistan-rai ... comotives/
LAHORE: The Pakistan Railways has inducted 15 new locomotives into its fleet, taking the number of functional locomotives to 268.

These locomotives have been purchased from China.
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^^ This is actually very old news, certainly from last year. Wonder why its been rehashed with a new date.
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Beyond the physical 3 Mile zone is the Djinn powered force field zone which will protect the Krachi residents from reactor accidents.
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A_Gupta wrote:Attributed to Zulfikar Ali Bhutto: "There is a Bangladesh hidden behind every bush in India".
Have no idea what that means, but here are a couple more quotes in the same vein:
Asif Ali Zardari, (former) President of Pakistan wrote: There is a Pakistani in every Indian...
Nirupama Subramaniam, former Pakistan-based correspondent for The Hindu newspaper wrote: Pakistanis must locate the Indian within themselves, and Indians must discover their inner Pakistani.
anupmisra, mango brfite wrote:I discover my inner Pakistani every morning and flush it with the aid of a cup of ginger-tea!
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A_Gupta wrote:http://customstoday.com.pk/pakistan-rai ... comotives/
LAHORE: The Pakistan Railways has inducted 15 new locomotives into its fleet, taking the number of functional locomotives to 268.

These locomotives have been purchased from China.
:)

A_Gupta Ji :

Please check the Cwapistan Railways Locomotives on this "Train Spotters' Site"

Pakistan Railways Locomotives Photo Gallery

Compare with the “Latest” Chinese Arrivals. Note the Pitting on the Buffers also on the Red painted Vertical Plate.

IMO these are 25 Years – if not more – Chinese Locomotives “Refurbished, Repainted and sold to Cwapistan.

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Peregrine wrote:
A_Gupta wrote:http://customstoday.com.pk/pakistan-rai ... comotives/
quote]LAHORE: The Pakistan Railways has inducted 15 new locomotives into its fleet, taking the number of functional locomotives to 268.

These locomotives have been purchased from China.
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A_Gupta Ji :

Please check the Cwapistan Railways Locomotives on this "Train Spotters' Site"

Pakistan Railways Locomotives Photo Gallery

Compare with the “Latest” Chinese Arrivals. Note the Pitting on the Buffers also on the Red painted Vertical Plate.

IMO these are 25 Years – if not more – Chinese Locomotives “Refurbished, Repainted and sold to Cwapistan.

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Peregrine,

This too is common knowledge. These are "reconditioned" at the end of service life in china. The korean locomotives that came before these were similarly 20 year olds "revitalized" at their retirement from korean rail.

The 268 is fictitious as well. It counts recent purchases by expected life and not functional engines right now.

edit -- the 15 were claimed new and not reconditioned.
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Nirupama Subramaniam, former Pakistan-based correspondent for The Hindu newspaper wrote:
Pakistanis must locate the Indian within themselves, and Indians must discover their inner Pakistani.
I thought all Indians have pakistani in them. Only thing is they get rid of him every morning.
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Maybe she was referring to the importance of good bowel movements every morning :rotfl:
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Does ginger tea really help?
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A_Gupta wrote:Attributed to Zulfikar Ali Bhutto: "There is a Bangladesh hidden behind every bush in India".
Didn't the secular socialist ZAB (or one of his speech writers) lift that from the Koran which warns the Believers of a Jew hiding behind every rock?
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It is not clear the good book actually says this. It seems to be an interpretation.
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A_Gupta wrote:Attributed to Zulfikar Ali Bhutto: "There is a Bangladesh hidden behind every bush in India".
Ha, Little he knew , There is Armitage standing behind every Mush in Pakistan !
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Shreeman wrote:It is not clear the good book actually says this. It seems to be an interpretation.
To be fair to the good Book, Shreeman, everything culled from that, including the four schools of thought, is an interpretation only because nobody understands the archaic Arabic.
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Jhujar wrote:
sirji,

are we clear on what precisely the islamic guy is actually saying?? or have we been carried away by some aman BS??
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SSridhar wrote:
Shreeman wrote:It is not clear the good book actually says this. It seems to be an interpretation.
To be fair to the good Book, Shreeman, everything culled from that, including the four schools of thought, is an interpretation only because nobody understands the archaic Arabic.
Fair duece. Why are the predators looking behind the rocks then, instead of vice versa. Ulema need to teach the rock hiding business properly, its not for momeen.
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Laal Hasan ka

Hara Hussain ka

Safed Hazrat Ali ka

Charkha - Syedna ka hai...

Ban gaya Shia bhaio ka tiranga...

Parcham laherata hai to numanindagi karta hai...kiski ?
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Sartaj Aziz Begging for an Invitation to Visit India
ISLAMABAD: Advisor to Prime Minister on National Security and Foreign Affairs, Sartaj Aziz said on Sunday that Pakistan’s Foreign Secretary will visit India when his counterpart will invite him for the resumption of dialogue process between the two countries.
Really? :rotfl:
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I doubt that this crowd is pakistani.

I have my reasons.
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There is some level of shia persecution in all sunni muslim countries.
They are subjected to ridicule and hatered during hajj. There have been terrible riots in mecca and madina as a result of this. The saudi authorities openly discriminate, segregate their tent cities, have an extra ring of armed police deployed around shia residential tent cities.

I guess India is where they are free to practice, flourish, live in peace as they please, along with everyone else.
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Paki Ranger's chief coming End of month for talks. Another attempt to give figment of imagination that talks are on.
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The person who has uploaded the video Zeshan Moosavi seems to be from Bhagyanagari,Dakshinapatha.Seems to me the crowd is Indian shias who seem ecstatic that Jana Gana Mana was inspired by Hussein Ali.(with my limited knaalij of 'horde' language).Its another thing that Tagore composed that poem in honour of King George Vs coronation.
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It is interesting if this guy is really a paki. Major taqleef for sunnis. But then giving this taqreer in pakiland will be injurious to shia health. But then again, shias are living dangerously in pakiland anyways.
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Article on a new film by a Swede about relationship between Norwegians and Swedes in WP. What really is amusing is the following:
"It an interview with Variety, Sandahl explained why he felt he needed to make the film. "Now the Norwegians call us the 'paki-swedes' or the 'new poles,' the immigrant workers," he explained. "But the weird thing is that even though it is the biggest Swedish emigration in modern time – bigger than the boats to America in the late 1800’s – you don’t hear about it on the news, you don’t read about it."
Bakis must be thrilled - use of Paki as a synonym for unwanted immigrant in English-speaking world.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wor ... 12c1cd8d1e
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Paul wrote:Paki Ranger's chief coming End of month for talks. Another attempt to give figment of imagination that talks are on.

Ahh looks like rangers are being slaughtered like pigs by kafirs more than they care to ack publicly but unable to ignore.
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A_Gupta wrote:http://customstoday.com.pk/pakistan-rai ... comotives/
LAHORE: The Pakistan Railways has inducted 15 new locomotives into its fleet, taking the number of functional locomotives to 268.

These locomotives have been purchased from China.
Yupeee. Means beejness ekshpress will run again!!

Watch this celebration on the first day of super duper faster than fast express. Don't miss the celebration dance @0.22

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arshyam wrote:Maybe she was referring to the importance of good bowel movements every morning :rotfl:
Pure Halal Link from The Fartress of Deen
ISLAMABAD: More than 40 million people in Pakistan do not have access to a toilet, forcing them to defecate in the open, which in turn is a major contributor to stunting in the country, a top Unicef official said.“There are 41 million people who do not have access to a toilet in Pakistan and as a result they are defecating in the open. And open defecation has significant health and nutritional consequences,” said Geeta Rao Gupta, deputy executive director at Unicef.“Open defecation is a major contributor to stunting and that's why we've got to do all we can to stop it,” she said. The problem can spread disease and lead to intestinal infections, which can contribute to stunting in young children, she said.Stunting means children don't grow as tall as they would otherwise, and it can also affect a child's brain development. Stunted children are more at risk of disease, don't do as well in school and stunted mothers can also give birth to stunted children.Pakistan is the third-largest country when it comes to people going to the bathroom in the open, behind India and Indonesia.The Pakistan Approach to Total Sanitation (PATS) is a sanitation program adapted from the Community Approach to Total Sanitation by Unicef in Pakistan. PATS aims to create open defecation free (ODF) villages in Pakistan by making the practice of saying no to open defecation a social norm.However, the situation for sanitation is still bleak: approximately 43 million Pakistanis still defecate in the open, and our Millennium Development Goal (MDG 7) of increasing access to sanitation may not be met until 2027.
‘52pc of Pakistanis combat unsanitary conditions’
The public health implications are severe. Some three million Pakistanis face infections from waterborne diseases every year. Children are especially affected by illnesses such as diarrhoea, often caused by unsafe water and inadequate sanitation, which kills more under-fives around the world than AIDS, malaria and measles combined.There was a culture of subsidy in calamity-hit areas. Local authorities absolved themselves of responsibility for water and sanitation systems and instead looked to external donors. But many private water service providers refuse to cover operation and maintenance costs due to low tariffs and poor profitability.There is a lack of policy on water, sanitation and hygiene (WASH) in Pakistan ─ and where it exists, it tends to be poorly informed and often implemented without consulting local people.National and provincial politicians have allocated funds to water and sanitation but in Fata, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, rural Sindh, Punjab and Balochistan, open defecation is practised widely and using a toilet in the home is considered to be taboo. ( Sunnah ?)The solution is about more than funding. As Jan Eliasson, UN deputy secretary general, said last year, we must dismantle taboos: As was the case for the word `toilets` a few years ago, it is time to incorporate `open defecation` in the political language and in diplomatic discourse.Building more toilets is also vital for empowering women and girls and keeping them in school, Gupta said. If women have to walk long distances to find a private place to relieve themselves, they are more vulnerable and exposed to attack. They're also less likely to go to school if there are no toilets. “Having toilets is a big advantage to girls,” she said.
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Jhujar wrote:
Gagan wrote:I doubt that this crowd is pakistani.

I have my reasons.
Gagan, you are absolutely spot on. This video is from Naqvi's visit of Hydrabad, India. The crowd is Indian.
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