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wasn't PK brought in to "question" the BJP??

Actor slams Chandrababu Naidu’s ‘forceful’ land acquisition for Capital
March 6, 2015

Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister N Chandrababu Naidu found himself in a spot on Thursday when actor Pawan Kalyan criticised the manner in which the TDP government is procuring land for the state capital.

Pawan, Jana Sena Party chief, who supported and campaigned in favour of the TDP on the advice of Narendra Modi during the last general elections, visited some of the villages near Vijayawada and Guntur which are being acquired by the government to build the capital.

When some farmers complained that their land was being forcibly taken away, Pawan said he certainly wants an impressive capital to be build but not at the cost of the farmers.
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Today CBN says that constructing the capital city will increase the land value of the surrounding areas and hence it is good thing. Sure. This guys thinks too much of himself and assumes rest of the people are idiots that don't understand his game. He made the statement almost like an election pitch for the farmers in these districts.

First of all why would the price of an agriculture land will appreciate if its only purpose is agriculture. Having the capital city next to it, will people go the farms and pay higher price for paddy? Everybody knows the green fertile lands, far away, upto west godavari, will be converted into concrete jungles. Otherwise how can an agriculture land be sold at 3-4 crores/acre in these lands (all black money)?. The 30000 acres they acquired is just a bait for big fish all around. They are eyeing a loot of up to Rs 400,000 crores for these districts by simply flipping the land for real estate. By forcing a mega city of 8 million people (this is CBN figure), people migrating from other districts will become cannon fodder in terms of high housing costs and shabby living conditions. Also where is this black money going? It cannot go anywhere. The only channel for this money is to convert it back into more real estate through benami route in the far away districts. It is creating huge imbalance and a ticking time bomb of future social unrest. BTW, they did this once before, and created a huge social unrest. The end result is Telangana. This whole mega capital is completely bogus. I hope BJP or somebody deflates this bubble before it destroys the state even more.
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singapore is also asking for 10,000 acres of land for their own real estate development!!! near the river and the national highways
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Forget all these things. One lakh acres per district as land bank is planned by AP. This is to accommodate Modi's call to create land banks for make in India.
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How many acres a typical district would have or average per district in AP?
Percentage arable and what percentage for living?
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AP Total Area: 160,267 sq kms = 39,602,777 acres; avg district area = 3,046,367 acres.

Edit: Corrected conversion from sq km to acres
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So all this land for capital is miniscule taking I into account that it is spread over two districts.
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DC debate: Is Andhra Pradesh deceiving people with land pooling scheme?


Is Andhra Pradesh deceiving people with land pooling scheme?

March 08, 2015,

State deceiving people, project can’t take off

The visit of YSRC chief Y.S. Jagan Mohan Reddy and actor-politician Pawan Kalyan to the AP capital city site was rather late in the day. Informal “land-pooling” had started in November 2014, though the formal process commenced later with the enactment of the AP Capital Region Development Authority Act, 2014, and the CRDA Rule.

During this process, the AP government let loose a reign of terror over the villagers/landowners of the capital city areas. The combined might of realtors-turned-ministers, senior revenue officials, police registering cases and an army of real estate ‘dalals’ carrying hard cash was brought to bear on the hapless peasants.

These young politicians should have gone earlier and stood by the people. Be that as it may, to say that land pooling is over is a blatant lie being peddled by the government. The truth is far from it.

Landowners have given only consent under Rule 5. This is not a legal document. After this, under Rule 8.8, subject to the landowner’s ownership right being established, the competent authority shall enter into an agreement with the consent-giver in Form 9.14, to firm up the Development Agreement and Irrevocable Power of Attorney to alter the boundaries, develop and make requisite changes in the land pool area.

Once the landowner signs this legal document, CRDA can take possession of land with standing crops and is indemnified of all encumbrances and can ‘develop’ and sell plots and can raise loan by mortgaging the land.

The CRDA can cancel DA/PoA at any time without giving any reason. In return, all that the farmer gets is a Land Pooling Ownership Certificate with vague verbal assurances. While CRDA gets a legal document and possession of the land, all that the landlord gets is a piece of paper with no monetary value. In the event, having been deprived of his only source of livelihood he would be on the streets. This is highly arbitrary and unjust and cannot stand the scrutiny of law. And, therefore, consent-givers can refuse to sign the DA/PoA.

As it is, the capital city project cannot take-off. None of the basic requirements — concept plan, feasibility study, Social Impact Assessment, Environmental Impact Assessment, environmental clearance and master plan — have been complied with so far. The government is deceiving people saying this not applicable for ‘pooled-land’ project.

The Centre had appointed a high-level committee with urban experts to select the site for the AP capital. Terms of Reference included least possible dislocation to existing agriculture systems, preservation of local ecology, promoting environmentally sustainable growth, minimising construction cost etc. Going by the ToR, the committee did not recommend this site. In the event, Centre will not be able to fund the project. The Andhra Pradesh government is also broke. How will the Rs 3 lakh capital be built?

The AP government is broke and has no funds. How then will the Rs 3 lakh crore capital project be built? It may not happen and the government would have only ended up destroying the most fertile farmland in the country.

M. G. Devasahayam, Retd. IAS Former administrator Chandigarh Capital formation

Land pooling invented to circumvent law

If the Andhra Pradesh government is under the impression that it has successfully completed the so-called voluntary land pooling for the capital city, it is sadly mistaken.

A large number of legal issues still remain unanswered besides the issues of additional compensation as well as relief and rehabilitation of a number of people currently eking out their livelihoods from those lands.

It is unfortunate that the AP government has chosen to acquire, in the guise of land pooling, more than 30,000 acres of highly fertile multi-crop irrigated lands compromising national food security. This is despite Section 94(4) of the AP Reorganisation Act providing that the Union government shall de-notify any extent of degraded forests for the capital city.

Large portions of such lands are readily available in Guntur and adjoining districts and the state government would have got these lands free of cost. Besides, Section 94(3) provides that it shall be the responsibility of the Union government to fund the cost of all important buildings in the capital city. Such provisions were never there in any of the earlier states’ Reorganisation Acts.

It should be borne in mind that on the day the CRDA Bill was passed by the AP Legislature, the prohibition on acquisition of multi-crop irrigated lands was still there in Section 10 of Land Acquisition, Rehabilitation and Resettlement Act, 2013, even for genuine public causes. It is only to circumvent this law of Parliament, the AP government invented the land pooling scheme.

If you are prohibited from acquiring irrigated lands because of concerns of food security, you cannot even acquire them through land pooling.

Normally, the CRDA Act could have been challenged as “beyond legislative competence” based on the following observation of the apex court in many similar cases.

If a legislature is prohibited from doing something, it may not do so even under the “guise or pretence” of doing something that appears to be within its lawful jurisdiction.

A legislature may, prima facie, purport to act within the limits of its powers, yet it may in substance and reality be transgressing those powers, their purported exercise being merely a “guise or pretence.”

This rule may broadly be explained as the observance of good faith in the exercise of legislative powers, and it is implied in the operation of the maxim: “That which cannot be done directly, cannot be done indirectly.”

What came in handy for the AP government, though temporarily, is the Ordinance on Land Acquisition. But, given the opposition from almost all political parties, including the RSS, the government is likely to retain the prohibition on acquisition of multi-crop irrigated lands, in which case the CRDA Act itself will be challenged.

Why is the state bent on destroying irrigated land which constitute just about 10 to 12 per cent of the country’s geographical area.

All of us want a state-of-the-art and modern capital city. Large areas of degraded forest lands are available in Guntur and adjoining districts free of cost. Why is the state government hell bent on destroying canal-based irrigated lands, which constitute hardly 10 to 12 per cent of the total geographic area of the country?
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chetak wrote:DC debate: Is Andhra Pradesh deceiving people with land pooling scheme?


Is Andhra Pradesh deceiving people with land pooling scheme?

March 08, 2015,

State deceiving people, project can’t take off

The visit of YSRC chief Y.S. Jagan Mohan Reddy and actor-politician Pawan Kalyan to the AP capital city site was rather late in the day. Informal “land-pooling” had started in November 2014, though the formal process commenced later with the enactment of the AP Capital Region Development Authority Act, 2014, and the CRDA Rule.

During this process, the AP government let loose a reign of terror over the villagers/landowners of the capital city areas. The combined might of realtors-turned-ministers, senior revenue officials, police registering cases and an army of real estate ‘dalals’ carrying hard cash was brought to bear on the hapless peasants.
:eek:

Pawan Kalyan goes back on word, hails CM Chandrababu Naidu
http://timesofap.com/politics/news/pawa ... naidu.html
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On Friday, the actor-politician praised Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister N. Chandrababu Naidu and criticised the late Y.S. Rajasekhar Reddy
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:rotfl: BJP's "Survey man" goes to Capital area. All sundry anti-TDP media splash "Terror" and BJP minions pick those news to post.

Suddenly survey man turns plates.
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Deccan Chronicle better shut up. They supported Congress all throughout the division.
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Capital controversy hits Naidu government

Capital controversy hits Naidu government

Civil society, Opposition are targeting the government on land pooling for the construction of the new capital.

S RAMA KRISHNA Hyderabad | 7th Mar 2015




The Chandrababu Naidu-led Telugu Desam Party government in Andhra Pradesh is likely to get mired in legal controversies over the building of a new capital on the banks of river Krishna. Over half a dozen civil society outfits and major opposition parties are targeting the government on land pooling for the construction of the rump state's new capital, after Hyderabad, currently the joint capital of AP and Telangana, was given to the newly created state.

The National Alliance of People's Movement (NAPM) plans to approach the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC) and the National River Conservation Directorate in the Ministry Of Environment, Forests and Climate Change, and if necessary the Supreme Court, against the land pooling, which is needed to construct a city that will be spread over 50,000 acres.

The main Opposition, YSR Congress and other parties, Congress, the Left, the AAP and Lok Satta have upped the ante against the government after sensing the anger among those who will have to sell their farmlands and those who are dependent on farm wages.

Even the Bharatiya Janata Party, which is a minor partner in the Naidu government, is in two minds about supporting the land pooling system by which 32,000 acres will have to be acquired under the Capital Region Development Authority Act.

At the close of the 28 February deadline for getting farmers' consent to the land pooling system, the government could secure around 32,000 acres from 500 villages in 58 revenue mandals in the districts of Krishna and Guntur.

"We will go to the NHRC on the TDP government's move to snatch agricultural land from the farmers forcibly. This will be the biggest displacement of farmers from their rightful land. This will also trigger a humanitarian crisis for the farmers, tenants and daily wage earners," claimed M.G. Devasahayam of NAPM.

Devasahayam, who led a fact finding team to all the 58 mandals that have been notified as the Capital Region Development Authority (CRDA), says that he has gathered enough material for filing a petition before the NHRC.

NAPM and some other NGOs are promoting the view that the land pooling is a massive scam, where the government takes away fertile land from the farmers and allots the same to real estate players in the name of building a world-class city.

These activists are protesting the government's decision to award the construction of the capital to two Singapore based firms, Surbana International Consultants and Jurong International Constructions.

"We don't know how they (firms) are going to utilise the massive land acquired from the farmers. Around 500 acres are enough to build a big city with all facilities and construct a Secretariat, an Assembly, a High Court, the Raj Bhawan, the Chief Minister's residence and other state offices. We do not understand what the developers will do with the remaining 40,000-50,000 acres. They must be planning to use it for commercial purposes, which needs to be probed," alleged Ambati Rambabu of the YSR Congress.

CM Naidu's aim is to build a world class, riverfront capital that resembles the swanky Singapore or Hong Kong. To this end, Naidu has set aside a report by an experts' panel headed by Sivaramakrishna and appointed by the Ministry of Urban Development, which opposed the construction of a mega city and instead suggested that four or five existing cities should be developed with decentralised administrative facilities across 13 districts.
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CM Naidu’s aim is to build a world class, riverfront capital that resembles the swanky Singapore or Hong Kong.

The rejection of the Sivaramakrishna report by the Naidu Cabinet on 2 September 2014 has surprised the Ministry of Urban Development. Sources say that the ministry is now vetting the CRDA Act passed by the AP Assembly as it bypasses the Land Acquisition Act 2014.

However, the CRDA Act, touted to be an effective way to get land through a voluntary pooling system, has confused farmers. Close to 25,000 farmer families are undecided on giving up their land for the construction of the new capital. "Many of our farmers are illiterate and do not know whether they will get a better deal through the CRDA Act or the Land Acquisition Act," said farmers' activist Erneni Nagendranath.

"Some officers have threatened us that they would take away our land by using the Land Acquisition Act if the farmers do not agree to the land pooling. We are confused. We do not know which is the better Act," said Nagendranath.

As a result, several farmers who have already given up their land under CRDA are still turning up at protest demonstrations being held by those who are opposed to the land pooling.

The agricultural land earmarked for the new capital is rich for cultivation. The land with four crops per year was priced at Rs 15 lakh to Rs 20 lakh per acre. But after the area was notified for the capital, prices shot up to Rs 2cr-Rs 5cr. Estimates put the value at Rs 10cr-Rs 15cr once the promoters develop them and hand them over to private players.

AP Urban Development Minister P. Narayana denied any irregularities in the land pooling system. "We want to build a world-class city as AP capital, but some people are jealous of our efforts and are trying to create hurdles for us, but I am sure, the farmers are with us," he said.
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Long article on Vijayawada and what the new capital is doing to it.
Is capital fever making Vijayawada sick?
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If mods deem this post unfit, please delete it.

OK, this is from 2.5 years ago but is news to me. Was "Tirumala Manade" movement discussed here at that time? Has anyone from the forum been involved in this particular effort and its outcomes if any?

Brief description:
Some clear demands are being made about Tirupati by Hindu orgs. The central theme is about making Tirupati an exclusively Hindu religious centre that will act as an ecosystem churning scholars, purohits, giving aid to other temples and generally rejuvenating Hinduism in the state. Though they do not go the point of talking about removing government's involvement in running temples and still trust government to be fair.

To start off with, the chairman (Sri Garakipati Narasimha Rao) is assertive and clearly states the demand - Tirupati is only for Hindu religious ideas.



The following two speakers know the game of the various evangelicals and other fronts who are doing aggression against Hinduism. Sri Paripoornananda Saraswati Swami in below video has some very good ideas that if implemented will rouse Hindutva among the public. Though I am wondering if some of the ideas are copies of how Abrahamic religions behave. Like his idea of a Dharmic social and religious org along the lines of Wakf board to defend Hindu ideas, interests and culture. Perhaps fire must be fought with fire? The swami has worked among Dalits and brought them back into the fold of Hinduism.



This speaker was former DGP Sri K. Aravinda Rao. He also raises good points but what shocked me was that he realised the dangers of Islamic and Christian demographic and religious aggression only recently after retirement. Even though he was fromer DGP :shock:



There are more videos in the series, haven't watched them all. But, definitely makes me happy that there are people who recognise the danger Hinduism is in inside AP and entire India in general and are trying to do their bit.
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^LOvely. Thank you, sir.
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HS garu,

In the 2nd video, Sri Paripurnananda gave definition of Dharma as per Vedas.

Our resident intellectuals can't even get the meaning of it, forget about the philosophy of it.
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Someone from Twitter was saying 46% of temple revenue will go to government. The same government has increased(doubled) allocation of funds to minorities. I will check.
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CBn won with a narrow margin of 5 lakh votes all over the state. This could be due to Modi wave. Hence he is doing all this desperate things.

Most likely if he falters the next CM unless he is jailed will be Jagan. Then who will complete this capital?

Andhra should not commit so much money to a dream of a marginal winner.
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Pakiness and Lahori logics in full display

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^^

The Telangana govt (like the Pakis) are politicizing language and history by regional lines. Nanayya is regarded traditionally as the 'Adi kavi' of Telugu literature for his beginning of translation of Samskrit Mahabharatam to Telugu which is considered as the starting of Telugu literature. Now the Telangana govt considers him as an 'Andhra' and wants to replace Nanayya with Palkuriki Somanatha (who is believed to be born in Warangal) as 'Adi Kavi'. Their Lahori logic excuse is that Nannaya "just translated" Sanskrit literature to Telugu by writing Andhra Mahabharatam while Somanatha popularized 'desi telugu' by writing Basava purana.Till now, all Telugu literature gaints including Nanayya and Somanatha are studied in Degree 1st year but going forward only what the Telangana govt dubs as "Telangana Kavulu" will be taught in Degree 1st year.
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That Basava sure messed up Karnataka and Andhra regions by bringing Veerashivaism. Took another 200 years with Tikkanna who prayed to Harharanatha and erased the differences and brought peace to the land.

Even Palnaati Yuddham had its roots in Basva purnam memes.
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^^

Interesting thing is in those times the identities were blurred even between Andhra and Kannada forget about non-existent "Telangana". Palkuriki Somanatha was as much a Telugu literature giant as he is a Kannada (and Sanskrit) one.

What happened to all those "this division is just for administrative purposes" argument made by T-vadis before ? Next what ? Coming up with a separate Telangana Telugu script may be ??
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AP Capital city name is Amaravathi - great name and without any cultural association to Turaka city Hyderabad.
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^^Should've named it "Bhagyanagaram". Just for contrast sake...
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The Vyakaranam of Telugu comes from the book written by Nannaya (Andra Shabda Chintamani ???) and later it was followed. Andra Desha's last kings Kakathiyas are Saivas. Not Basava variety as per my info.

Thikkana is also of the same time of end of Kakathiya dynaste and as per history he was instrumental in getting Andhra DeshaaDhisha - Prathapa Rudra Devi's help to Manumasiddhi of Mahavikhama Simhapuri ( Nellore). He said to have visited Andhra Nagari ( Eekasila Nagari - Warangal) seeking the Samrats help. The water tank at Nellore called as Nellore Cheruvu today is built by the same Samrat only. He ruled upto Kanchi. His adopted mother died fighting the rebels who decleared independence at Nellore.

Next step - Srimadh Aandra Mahabhagavatham will be renamed as Mea Telangana Kafir Kahani
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Nagaruna's studio seized
On Saturday, a joint public notice signed by authorities of Andhra Bank and Indian Bank declared that the 7 acre 25 gunta stretch of Annapurna Studio in Jubilee Hills (popularly known as '7 acres') has been "seized" owing to non repayment of loan of `62 crore — Andhra Bank (`32.3 crores) and Indian Bank (`29.7 crores). The property is owned by actor Nagarjuna's family.

Despite issuing notices to Nagarjuna, Venkat Akkineni, Supriya, Y Surendra, Naga Suseela, and Venkat Roddam on January 2, 2014 to repay the loan and the interest, there was no response. We hereby are declaring that this property measuring 7 acres and 25 guntas has been seized effective 20 March 2015," read the notice, cautioning third parties from entering into a business transaction over this property until further notice. Nagarjuna was unavailable for comment.

The actor's family is said to be drawing a contingency plan to deal with the issue. A source close to the production house says, "The studio authorities are negotiating with the banks to resolve the issue in an amicable way to get a positive outcome."
Looks like the untimely death of YSR has caught many people off guard. How much an acre of land in Jubilee Hills be worth? 50 crores at least perhaps?
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Was talking to an official from AP state last weekend. He said revenue situation in AP is very dire. They don't have much revenue as most of the money used to come from Hyderabad which is now in Telangana.

CBN wants BOT model for 50 years to get folks to rapidly build up the infrastructure.
Also he knows only one thing: IT.

He now wants something called IT 2.0.
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Bad days for students as Centre cuts funds to midday meal scheme
The above report from ToIlet draws a sad picture of the mid-day meal scheme in Telengana & AP. How ever I am bit unconvinced on the angle taken by the report, blaming the central government while the responsibility may be with the state government. What is the situation on the ground?
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Some Muslims are calling Naidu "Sanghi" for naming the capital as Amravathi :rotfl:

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Destroying Telugu lands by handing over them to EJ is the idea behind division. Now BJP only can save it. Co opting all con mafia leaders into BJP on. N. Janardhana Reddy's son joined BJP now. Others are already there. But is it going to benifit BJP on ground and the indic cause is doubtful. In any event left along all these people would have joined Jagan. At least they are now in BJP.

Now welfare mafia is in full force in AP. All freebees from 1982 destroyed Telugu minds and now no politico can escape this evil.

As per reports 1000 Cr will be given to AP capital by GOI and it will be shown in supplementary budget.
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Calling Thullur as Amaravathi when real Amaravathi is 15 km north is ridiculous. Why can't they propose a capital at real Amaravathi where there is lot of govt land. The obvious answer is that it would not make the farm land surrounding Vijayawada to the south ( as far as Vuyyur and Gudivada) appreciate 5-10 times. Who would pay Rs 5 crore/acre for a land in Vuyyur without the prospect of digging the land and build a multi story building? How can the TDP's crony capitalists, landlords, speculators, and real estate mafia make mammoth profit of Rs 300-400,000 crores by flipping lands and apartments. They can't. Hence take the 30000 acres of pristine agriculture land at Thullur as a bait and call it Amaravathi, and elevate prices of lands surrounding it, like Viswaamitra's 'thrisanku swarg'.
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Dasari wrote:Calling Thullur as Amaravathi when real Amaravathi is 15 km north is ridiculous. Why can't they propose a capital at real Amaravathi where there is lot of govt land. The obvious answer is that it would not make the farm land surrounding Vijayawada to the south ( as far as Vuyyur and Gudivada) appreciate 5-10 times. Who would pay Rs 5 crore/acre for a land in Vuyyur without the prospect of digging the land and build a multi story building? How can the TDP's crony capitalists, landlords, speculators, and real estate mafia make mammoth profit of Rs 300-400,000 crores by flipping lands and apartments. They can't. Hence take the 30000 acres of pristine agriculture land at Thullur as a bait and call it Amaravathi, and elevate prices of lands surrounding it, like Viswaamitra's 'thrisanku swarg'.
why would naidu be so gungho if nobody was to benefit?? He desperately wants central monies onlee.

for the want of a nail, the shoe was lost, for the want of a shoe, the horse was lost, :) ............
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Worst kind of stupidity is continuing in AP. Crony gangs culture institutionalized by YSR is now being used by CBN without any head or tail of a plan to develop the state. Real estate prices in most of AP have either stagnated or even gone down now because of the drama he is doing in the name of Capital. He is creating a huge anti CBN force of moneybags by his own actions. Utterly useless people like Narayana who said to have spent hundreds of Cr for his elections are now driving the state.

Time to rescue AP from this CBN and Jagan gangs has come. But there is hardly any option with BJP being weak now.
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Dasari wrote:Calling Thullur as Amaravathi when real Amaravathi is 15 km north is ridiculous. Why can't they propose a capital at real Amaravathi where there is lot of govt land. The obvious answer is that it would not make the farm land surrounding Vijayawada to the south ( as far as Vuyyur and Gudivada) appreciate 5-10 times. Who would pay Rs 5 crore/acre for a land in Vuyyur without the prospect of digging the land and build a multi story building? How can the TDP's crony capitalists, landlords, speculators, and real estate mafia make mammoth profit of Rs 300-400,000 crores by flipping lands and apartments. They can't. Hence take the 30000 acres of pristine agriculture land at Thullur as a bait and call it Amaravathi, and elevate prices of lands surrounding it, like Viswaamitra's 'thrisanku swarg'.
Agree with crony and other stuff but what is the wrong in calling capital as Amaravati? New Delhi away from Delhi (now called old Delhi) is capital of India. New roads will make even Vja, Amaravati, Nandigama are like daily commute distances.

TDP has done a thing that is blessing in disguise. The real estate stagnation is real good thing to happen. Otherwise the Telugus are drugged on formula called growth+dev == land rates and realestate growth. Now that these things are caged, it is good for the state.

Today if I buy in Vizag or Tirupati or Kakinada, I am sure my investments are not hype. I will not touch the junk called Krishna and Guntur districts anyway :). This is the best for APites. Let the ones who want has suicidal tendencies put their money in Capital area. I wrote this indirectly few pages ago.
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Re: Telugu States' News and Discussion

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My question is what is the relevance of pattiseema project when Polavaram is anyway planned to come? Why hurry with Lift Irrigation project of pattiseema.
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Muppalla wrote:My question is what is the relevance of pattiseema project when Polavaram is anyway planned to come? Why hurry with Lift Irrigation project of pattiseema.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 482446.cms

Looks like to ensure AP state is using the remaining Godavari waters as soon as possible and use that (existing use) logic to get permanent allocation of those waters to AP state during Godavari tribunal discussions at a later point as part of Polavaram negotiations.

Polavaram is an intra state project with Telganana, Orissa, AP and even Maha contesting the water allocations.
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Modi-Jagan meeting fuels speculation
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 751137.cms

Anyone knows what this is all about?
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Nothing. YSJ is trying the old way (get away with murder for political support) to get out of CBI cases. Won't work with Modi, unless Courts exhonerate YSJ, because that will hurt Modi more.

All Modi can do is speed up CBI process.

But Modi already asked Supreme Court to clear political cases within 1yr & Supreme Court judges are busy saving congress agents like Teesta.
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A_Gupta wrote:http://www.straitstimes.com/news/busine ... s-andhra-p
Singapore on Monday delivered to Andhra Pradesh phase one of the masterplan for the Indian state's new capital city, marking a big step forward in the project partnership.

The 7,235 sq km capital region plan is the first of a three-stage masterplan designed by Surbana International Consultants and Jurong Consultants, in collaboration with Andhra officials.

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