Internal Security Watch

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 09 Apr 2015 05:51

https://news.vice.com/article/police-in ... pper-spray

Police in northern India have reportedly acquired pepper-spraying drones intended for use on protesters and others labeled as threats to public safety.

"They can be used to shower pepper powder on an unruly mob in case of any trouble," said Yashasvi Yadav, police superintendent of Lucknow, a major city in northern India, according to the Times of India.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 09 Apr 2015 06:05

drones are the in-thing and govts are being fleeced nicely by sharp agile operators.

any gas like tear gas can easily be delivered by the cheap rifle type launchers in use since ages. you do not need a C3I station and a Reaper drone to shower people with pepper gas.

member_28533 · Post by **member_28533** » 09 Apr 2015 07:13

The two terrorists had killed home guard Mahesh and grievously injured circle inspector Y Mogalaiah on April 2 at Suryapet. The terrorists had escaped from Khandwa Jail in Madhya Pradesh. Mohammad Aijajudden and Mohammad Aslam have been killed and 3 others - Amjad Khan, Zakir Hussain Sadiq and Mehboob Guddu - are absconding. -

See more at: http://www.gulte.com/news/37537/Telanga ... gDzY8.dpuf

http://indread.com/1915/vikaruddin-ahmed-encounter

Viqaruddin aka Viqar Ahmed being the most wanted and deadliest terrorist is an ISI agent who belongs to Hyderabad Darsgah Jehad O Shahadat (DJS) from the year 2003. He has involved in many attacks on civilians, celebrities and even policeman and has been arrested in the year 2010.

He had undergone a plastic surgery to escape police dragnet, still arrested in Chilkalguda place in July 2010 when hidden in the home of Dr Mohd Hanif. Many cases have been filed under his along with five people, MD Zhakir, Sayed Asmed, Izhar Khan and MD Haleez who supported him each and every activity.

Attacked Counter Intelligence Police at IS Sadan in 2008.
He killed a Constable in Shalibanda in 2009.
Attacked Gujarat Home Minister
Planned to attack PM Narendra Modi in future (Reports form Investigation)
Attacked on Warders in the jail.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 09 Apr 2015 10:27

In the mean while.. The TS Police Sub Inspector Siddiah who was shot at and critically wounded by the Jehadis have succumbed to his injuries. And the very same day his wife gave birth to their first son

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svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 09 Apr 2015 10:34

I will heed ramanajis advice and am posting in police thread.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 09 Apr 2015 21:23

Smuggling racket: Catering staff entered flights with food, left with gold http://www.mid-day.com/articles/smuggli ... d/16125179

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 09 Apr 2015 21:36

Singha wrote:Smuggling racket: Catering staff entered flights with food, left with gold

May be this method is the latest trend, but the modus operandi has been tried out in very many places. A series of smuggled gold was caught from airports like Karippur in Kozhikode, Kerala. It was pretty much established that local Airport staff (like cleaners, baggage handlers etc.) were all involved. At least in Karippur, chances of catching the typical "carrier" walking out with smuggled gold was zero. The "carrier" goes to the toilet before reaching the customs folks, with a "toilet cleaner" carrying the gold in the garbage bags etc. were the norm. In some cases a flight coming from non-India location had "carriers" who would fix the smuggled gold to the bottom part of the seat. The "carrier" would leave the flight as it reached Karippur. The flight would have a short domestic flight (to Chennai for example), and another passenger boards the flight and occupies the seat. That fellow would take out the smuggled gold at Chennai, where as a "domestic passenger" checking would be less.

Bhurishrava · Post by **Bhurishrava** » 10 Apr 2015 11:57

Greenpeace has been banned for six months by the govt.

https://www.google.co.in/search?q=green ... uATFzIHoCQ

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 10 Apr 2015 23:13

Sandeep U of IT has just dropped a bombshell with his scoop that dear old Panditji,"Chacha N",actually had the IB snoop on the family of Netaji for approx. two decades,including 16 years while he was PM!

The manner in which Chacha snooped on Netaji's family has been described by one commentator as equivalent to that of the Stasi of E.German infamy during the Cold War.(remember the great award-winning film,"Lives of Others"). This once again brings into doubt the various inquiry commissions which deprived of theses files came to the conclusion,or at least most of them,that Netaji died in the plane crash.With these revelations,his family now firmly believe that he did not and are demanding a full investigation by a sititing SC judge,so that the contents of the remaining files may assist them in arriving as to the truth of his mysterious fate.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 11 Apr 2015 00:24

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 883131.cms
Interceptor boat to guard Sunderbans

HALDIA: Nearly seven years after the Mumbai terror attack exposed the lack of surveillance along India's shoreline, the Coast Guard in West Bengal got its first interceptor boat on Friday for operations in the Sunderbans.

It comes at a time when there is a spurt in piracy in the mangrove islands, with armed gangs kidnapping fishermen and shooting at tourists.

The ICGS C-418, 18th in a series of 36 interceptor boats being built by L&T Shipbuilders Ltd for the Coast Guard, was to be stationed at Gopalpur in Odisha. However, officers succeeded in diverting it to Haldia.

Though Haldia is the Coast Guard's oldest district, it lacked teeth for effective management of the Sunderbans. The three hovercraft under its command can't operate in choppy seas or if it is too windy. Its larger vessels cannot operate in the shallow waters of Sunderbans. The interceptor can do both. And this is vital in the most porous coastline in the country, said Bengal Coast Guard commander Sharad Mantri.

The interceptor boat is jet-propelled and can attain a top speed of 45knots (about 83kmph). Its main armament is a 12.7mm heavy machine gun. It can even traverse sideways. According to Coast Guard northeast commander VSR Murthy, another such vessel will join the fleet at Haldia this September.

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 11 Apr 2015 17:48

WTH??

http://indianexpress.com/article/cities ... ve-houses/

"To ‘save’ their houses in Azam’s Rampur, 80 Valmiki families set to embrace Islam"

kittoo · Post by **kittoo** » 11 Apr 2015 17:58

Karthik S wrote:WTH??

http://indianexpress.com/article/cities ... ve-houses/

"To ‘save’ their houses in Azam’s Rampur, 80 Valmiki families set to embrace Islam"

There was a similar news a while back in Rajasthan. Those guys were saying that if the government doesnt remove some encroachments in their village, they will convert to Islam.
How does that make any sense? What is the relation here? Seriously?
The stupidity/dhimminess of some of Hindus is absolutely off the charts.

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 11 Apr 2015 18:04

kittoo wrote:
Karthik S wrote:WTH??

http://indianexpress.com/article/cities ... ve-houses/

"To ‘save’ their houses in Azam’s Rampur, 80 Valmiki families set to embrace Islam"
There was a similar news a while back in Rajasthan. Those guys were saying that if the government doesnt remove some encroachments in their village, they will convert to Islam.
How does that make any sense? What is the relation here? Seriously?
The stupidity/dhimminess of some of Hindus is absolutely off the charts.

Exactly!! what is it with our "surrendering" mentality? They could atleast inform others if they are unable to resolve issues themselves.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 11 Apr 2015 18:10

Natural selection at work - best to let these go. Encourage speedy conversion even.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 11 Apr 2015 18:24

kittoo wrote:There was a similar news a while back in Rajasthan. Those guys were saying that if the government doesnt remove some encroachments in their village, they will convert to Islam.

These fellows seems to be trying a small act of blackmail. Such cases should be safely ignored by the government, and they can be allowed to convert to Islam or what ever. The government can then formally announce that all benefits like reservation would be now taken away. My understanding is that Valmikis are a community who get the SC reservation benefits.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 11 Apr 2015 19:44

Process of labeling and affording "rights" based on those labels aka secularism has done more to jeopardize internal security than all those rabid islamist and christian groups, naxals, etc combined.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 11 Apr 2015 19:52

JE Menon wrote:Natural selection at work - best to let these go. Encourage speedy conversion even.

What are you talking about?

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 11 Apr 2015 20:37

Seven STF men killed, 11 injured in Maoist attack in Chhattisgarha

At least seven personnel of the Chhattisgarh Special Task Force (STF) were killed and 11 others injured in a Maoist attack in Sukma district of south Bastar on Saturday noon.

The STF were undertaking an operation in the interior areas when they were ambushed by the Maoists in Kankerlanka region of Sukma. The deceased included Platoon commander Sankar Rao, head constable Rohit Sori and constables Manoj Baghel, Mohan Uike and Kiran Deshmukh.

“Seven personnel have been killed. We also lost a brave platoon commander. Details are awaited,” said R K Vij, ADG (Naxal Ops).

While some of the injured have reached the nearest police camp, the bodies of the dead are yet to be removed from the site.
embed1 Injured cops reach a police camp in Sukma.

This is the biggest Maoist attack on the security forces this year, as Chhattisgarh’s elite STF faced the worst single-day casualty in the last several years

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 11 Apr 2015 21:00

JE Menon wrote:Natural selection at work - best to let these go. Encourage speedy conversion even.

Can't afford to let these go. Also 'natural selection' will not work for these once they go on the other side of the fence.

krishna_krishna · Post by **krishna_krishna** » 12 Apr 2015 16:52

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbXQr3lx_cI

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 12 Apr 2015 22:50

Karthik S wrote:Can't afford to let these go. Also 'natural selection' will not work for these once they go on the other side of the fence.

Saar, please read the new link again. This is what is reported. "Around 80 Valmiki families in Rampur have announced to embrace Islam in order to “save their houses from demolition”. ". What these folks are doing is to threaten to convert to Islam, if they are evicted from a place where they had earlier encroached upon. If the Valmiki community (or for that matter any one), has encroached upon government (or another person's) land, then they should get evicted after due legal process. This as I see it, is a minor attempt to blackmail. I think the authorities should allow the conversion to happen, and also see what "benefits" the neo-converts would get by converting to Islam? Are they expecting protection from some quarters? Well good, let the whole world see who those protectors are.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 13 Apr 2015 14:44

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 901733.cms

NEW DELHI: The NIA's probe into the Bardhaman blasts could soon uncover the role of Pakistan's spy agency Inter-Services Intelligence and terror fount al-Qaida in helping Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) run its operations, top sources said.

The agency is set to receive crucial documents from Bangladesh on the funding, membership and association of JMB with other groups which it believes would shed light on the outfit's links with ISI and al-Qaida. JMB has already established a substantial base in West Bengal, Assam and Jharkhand.

An official said the 39 bombs recovered from the hideouts of JMB members in Bardhaman were possibly funded by ISI and al-Qaida.

A senior counter-terror expert said, "JMB is basically used by ISI to reduce Indian influence in Bangladesh. They have been active in India since 2007-2008, they have had funding from different channels. It is important to crack the whole network with the help of Bangladesh to avoid any future bomb blasts by JMB in India."

DexterM · Post by **DexterM** » 13 Apr 2015 15:03

The first rule of negotiating with a terrorist with a gun is to let him know his suicide will not be of much consequence to the world.
If we forcefully set an example to landgrabbers that their threat of conversion will not be viewed favourably in any manner, it will set a precedent. The masters will never reveal themselves, but we can mop up all the minions and see how they react.

The problem is that when you sit down at the table and decide to allow them to commit any manner of crime or mischief using their religion as a threat, they're already lost to the cause of dharma at that point. They will do it again, and motivate others to do the same. Best to set a visible example. And let people know this is what they can expect every time going forward.

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 13 Apr 2015 18:13

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 13 Apr 2015 19:33

The Hindu and Christian population is going to report near zero or negative growth in 2021 judging by present trends. So it will need immigrants. Judging by below report it is already happening. The future demographics will depend on what is the composition of these immigrants and how many decide to permanently settle in Kerala.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/new ... 421810.ece

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 13 Apr 2015 19:37

If that report about Kasargod hospital is true,its time to start a movement to detach Kasargod's tulu speaking areas from KL to KA.The mallus have no right to lord over tulu speaking people.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 13 Apr 2015 19:41

How is that going to help?

If you want to see the future demographic change in Kerala please see link below. Data of live births per religion from 2011.

http://www.ecostat.kerala.gov.in/docs/p ... rt2011.pdf

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 13 Apr 2015 19:45

The mallus cannot protect the hindu tulu speaking population because of their linguistic affinities.The tulus will get protection because of continguity with Mangalore and Udupi and the robust Hindu culture of KA.Its criminal and anti-national to leave tulus to the tender mercies of mallu sikularism.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 13 Apr 2015 19:53

That is the secular trend all over India. Just that it happened faster in Kerala. Most non-Muslims in India (except in certain pockets) are not having more than 1-2 kids. Please read the report. You will find the causes e.g. Muslim women are having children at age less than 18, etc. I think literacy alone is not sufficient. You need education and Hindus and Christians in KL are far more educated.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 13 Apr 2015 19:57

Supratik,
The north of kasargod is tulu speaking,the south is malayalam speaking.My point has nothing to do with the figures which anyway have no breakdown for North and South kasargod.The data is insufficient.The data is given for the entire state.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 13 Apr 2015 20:09

Muslims are concentrated in the northern districts. You will find the breakup in wiki. My point is I see very few educated Malayali Muslims as compared to educated Malayali Hindus and Christians. So literacy alone is not sufficient - education and work participation particularly of women are also important. Also the fact Muslim women are having kids at such a lower age suggests that we need to look deeper into claimed high HDI of Kerala. My guess is conservatism imported from Gulf, easy job market in the gulf and the gulf fueled money that does not require it to slog out in the Indian job market are the reasons. My second point is that it is a trend all over India - so what is the point in blaming keralites or trying to separate Tulu areas. That is not going to solve the problem. Even Uttaarkhand is showing the same trend if you disregard WB and AS which may be due to illegal immigration. Other states are likely to follow soon unless education and work participation of women are promoted.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 13 Apr 2015 20:20

Why is the muslim population not exploding in Saudi Arabia?Yemen?

Muslim population is exploding in India because of stability,security,food security,infrastructure,medical care,civilisation.The muslims are strong in North KL and are using that as a springboard into their expansion in kasargod,the northern most dist.Thats an extra advantage.Why give them extra advantages over normal factors?

Why do we oppose the tyranny of Cashmere Valley over Jammu and Ladakh? The same factors hold true here though to a lesser degree.Theres a long standing demand from Tulu speaking people to merge into KA.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 13 Apr 2015 20:52

It is quite high even in Saudi/Yemen. According to pew it is going to expand by another billion in the next 40 yrs by 2050. Please check the TFRs. I have already mentioned what I think are the reasons. Going forward this is going to be a huge problem in India unless we can somehow enhance women's education and work participation. Otherwise they will become just procreation facilities.

member_23370 · Post by **member_23370** » 13 Apr 2015 23:21

No amount of womans education will work on religion of piss. You simple need to cull their numbers.

BR has no place for such obnoxious comments. 3 months ban.
you are very lucky not to get a permanent ban.
- Rahul.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 14 Apr 2015 19:33

svenkat, Kerala is already Muslim majority by birth. Assam is also Muslim majority by birth and West Bengal is very close to it.
Below are the numbers.

Growth in population 2001-2011 religion wise

Assam
Increase in Muslim population - 2.4 million
Increase in non-Muslim population - 2.1 million

West Bengal
Increase in Muslim population - 4.4 million
Increase in non-Muslim population - 6.7 million

Kerala
Increase in Muslim population - 1 million
Increase in non-Muslim population - 0.5 million

The only solution to maintain demographic balance for Kerala is for immigrants (assuming that they are 80% non-Muslim) to settle down and WB, AS to deport illegal immigrants.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 14 Apr 2015 20:33

supratik,
thanks for the figures and I understand you.
If say kerala has this 'problem',will it be a big issue for TN?No,not so much.

Thats what I am saying.KLs 'problem' is now borne by kasargod.I hope you get what I mean.

Realistically,I know my rant is just a rant.But then this is one of my pet rants.What I consider issues facing the real minorities-the only minorities imho-the linguistic minorities particularly those are a majority in the border areas which form a contiguous territory with the neighbouring state.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 14 Apr 2015 20:52

Don't worry about TN. As per my estimates such problems are not there in TN in the near future.

Sridhar K · Post by **Sridhar K** » 14 Apr 2015 21:01

The entire east coast of TN from Sirkazhi till Ramanathapuram is getting complelety islamized and the region extends almost west till Thanjavur, kind of malabar of TN. This area has lot of connection with Middle east and Malaysia. There is a big push from wahabi elements to increase population and buy land.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 14 Apr 2015 21:09

I am talking about demographic threat. There is no such threat at present in TN.

Sridhar K · Post by **Sridhar K** » 14 Apr 2015 21:26

TN as whole is not an issue but the region I mentioned will have the demographic issue. Not sure whether we have data specific to the region but it is very much visible. Migration of Hindus, conversion and muslim population growth in that region will lead to similar demographic issues