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Spinster was commenting that all these versions being peddled are the same Gerald Bull GC-45 (Gun Canada-45 calibers) gun variants.

Re M-777 I can understand titanium forging requires extra heavy duty presses (>25,000 tonnes force). However machining and the associated recoil systems are well within the Indian mfg capability and should be transferred.
Can understand un-machined Ti barrel forgings being supplied from abroad.

Also its time OFB set up a heavy duty forging press (50,000 tonne) at HEC, Ranchi as a national resources.

Set up three (15,000 tonne) forging presses in OFB factories. Two for production and one for back up.

All the machinery to do this is already in India.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Press_Program



Just for ref the effort in China

http://www.chinatechgadget.com/china-bu ... forge.html
In the December 2007, China has started the building of an 80,000-ton press forge (800MN heavy die forging press) in Deyang, the southwestern Sichuan Province, paving the way for making large planes, a longtime dream of the nation.

The project, with an investment of 1.517 billion yuan (204.7 million U.S. dollars), has won the approval of the National Development and Reform Commission and is expected to be the world’s largest when it is finished in two and a half years, said Zeng Xiangdong, project director and vice general manager of China National Erzhong Group Co. on Friday.

The 800MN heavy die forging press project has been started under the construction in China Erzhong. This will be the largest die forging press in the world located in China Erzhong . After this project is completed , it will tremendously increase production capacity in the fields of aviation, electrical power and petrochemical industry, and will also meet the requirement of heavy die & open forgings used for aviation, national defense and civil industries, especially for the large commercial aircrafts in China .

Besides, China Erzhong also has a 160MN hydraulic press which is designed, manufactured, installed and commissioned by China Erzhong itself is the world’s largest open forging hydraulic press with most advanced technology.



a 160MN hydraulic press

A large die-hydraulic press forge is one of the key instruments in making jumbo planes. Only a few countries, including the United States, Russia and France, have such facilities, according to Zeng.

The current largest press forge is 75,000-tons and is owned by Russia. All the press forges currently in China are below 40,000 tons, which are unfit for making key parts of very large planes and hence hinder the development of the aviation industry, equipment and manufacturing.

Chen Xiaoci, vice director of the press forge project, said the machine is designed by China National Erzhong Group and built in the company’s compound.
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ramana wrote:Spinster was commenting that all these versions being peddled are the same Gerald Bull GC-45 (Gun Canada-45 calibers) gun variants.

Re M-777 I can understand titanium forging requires extra heavy duty presses (>25,000 tonnes force). However machining and the associated recoil systems are well within the Indian mfg capability and should be transferred.
Can understand un-machined Ti barrel forgings being supplied from abroad.

Also its time OFB set up a heavy duty forging press (50,000 tonne) at HEC, Ranchi as a national resources.

Set up three (15,000 tonne) forging presses in OFB factories. Two for production and one for back up.

All the machinery to do this is already in India.
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These guys have imported a press for aerospace forgings.
India’s largest aerospace hydraulic forging press arrives at Aequs SEZ, Belgaum

This is a 10,000 ton press, manufactured (irony of ironies) by the Tianjin Tianduan Press Group Co., Ltd., a Chinese company.
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Hobbes good news. So is a French-Indo JV. You need bigger presses in OFB eco-system.

Forgings create large fault free components. parts will fail in mfg only before value addition.

HEC Ranchi has 6000 tonne press for steel forgings.

http://hecltd.com/unique-facilities.php#
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IIRC L&T is getting know-how for fabricating very heavy forgings from Japanese companies for making core components for the new nuclear reactors.
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Heavy forging press capabilities 2014.

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Nucle ... er-Plants/
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Cybaru wrote:Heavy forging press capabilities 2014.

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Nucle ... er-Plants/
Awesome. L&T, BHEL, Bharat Forge all have heavy forging presses.
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Recd this from my brokerage firm....

Kalyani Group company Kalyani Strategic Systems Ltd (KSSL) and L&T are the only two Indian companies currently in contention for the towed artillery gun pie that is valued at around Rs 15,000 crore.
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Welspun - people say that they make biggest steel pipes in the world from their factory in Guj. I am told that they export 95% of their product to US and other oil majors. I am sure that there may be many which capability as of today or can reach the required level very fact if required.
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^^^^^

₹15,000-cr gun deal in L&T, Kalyani crosshairs.

Kalyani Group company Kalyani Strategic Systems Ltd (KSSL) and L&T are the only two Indian companies currently in contention for the towed artillery gun pie that is valued at around ₹15,000 crore.

Field trials for the 155-mm/52 caliber gun — one from the KSSL subsidiary BF-Elbit JV and the other from L&T and French defence major Nexter teaming — are nearing completion and the winner of the order is expected to be declared over the next few months.

The contract involves the supply of 1,500 towed artillery guns for the Indian Army, including 1,100 that must be produced indigenously under the ‘Make-in-India’ initiative.

The indigenous manufacture is expected to cut the cost of a gun by at least 25 per cent. The other 400 are to be delivered as complete units from the relevant overseas JV partner in three years’ time.

KSSL has set up a facility that can make 150 guns at Pune and also has land at Jejuri in Maharashtra where a new BF-Elbit facility will be established, Kalyani group Chairman Baba Kalyani told BusinessLine. Compare that to OFB taking 3 years to supply 114 guns at a pathetic rate of just 3 per month.

The Pune-based KSSL is participating in three (of four) artillery gun programmes announced by the Indian government in partnership with Elbit, and is also currently making two guns entirely on its own.

At Mundhwa near Pune, what was formerly a heat treatment shop is now a facility for making barrels, breeches and muzzles, making it the only private sector company, and only the second one in the country, apart from Ordnance Factory Board in Kanpur, to have this capability.

The machines imported from RUAG, Switzerland, can produce barrels up to 9 m in length, while the rifling and autofrettage machines can make bores ranging from 105-155 mm.

The raw material for the barrel — a highly specialised steel alloy — is sourced from the neighbouring facility Kalyani Carpenter Special Steels.

In an adjoining shop stand prototypes of artillery guns, including the Bharat52, a 155-mm/52 caliber gun (8m long barrel) with a range of 42 km. It sits on a 12-m, wheeled platform that can be driven for distances up to 60 km and can attain speeds of up to 25 km per hour.

Both gun and platform have been designed and developed indigenously by KSSL, the company under which all of the Kalyani Group’s defence JVs – three as of now with Elbit, Rafael (both Israel-based companies) and Premier Explosives (Hyderabad) operate.

There are at least two more alliances with foreign partners in the pipeline. The second KSSL product in the shop is the Garuda a 1.4 ton, 105/37 soft recoil gun.

With the Indian Government standardising 155 mm bore for guns, this programme undertaken in association with the Indian Army, aims to re-utilise the components of the existing light field gun that is being phased out. “Both these guns are ready. While Bharat52 will go for track trials, Garuda will go for field trials to Deolali soon,” says Col Rajinder Bhatia, President & CEO, Defence and Aerospace, Bharat Forge, and Chairman of KSSL.

After the 155/39 Bofors gun controversy, the Indian Army has had zero acquisition of modern artillery systems and suffers from an acute shortage of them.

“There are over 200 artillery regiments, each requiring guns, so the requirement is for at least 3,000 guns, the vast majority of which is towed guns,” explains Lt Gen (Retd) Surendra Kulkarni, who recently retired as Director-General, Mechanized Forces.

“With each gun costing in the region of ₹10 crore, the value of any contract, including lifetime support, will run into thousands of crores.

“The Kalyanis have a head start, but other conglomerates could also come into the fray - the Adanis or Ambanis, for instance, each of whom could have a foreign partner,” he says.

The government policy review could even bring in foreign collaborations for OFB and the DRDO, he points out.
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In Baba Kalyani's interview he said something like he can produce these artillery guns at the rate one every 2 days, or something like that.

Just for that, he should get the order pronto.
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Some confusion here.
Vipul wrote:^^^^^

₹15,000-cr gun deal in L&T, Kalyani crosshairs.

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The Pune-based KSSL is participating in three (of four) artillery gun programmes announced by the Indian government in partnership with Elbit, and is also currently making two guns entirely on its own.

At Mundhwa near Pune, what was formerly a heat treatment shop is now a facility for making barrels, breeches and muzzles, making it the only private sector company, and only the second one in the country, apart from Ordnance Factory Board in Kanpur, to have this capability.

The machines imported from RUAG, Switzerland, can produce barrels up to 9 m in length, while the rifling and autofrettage machines can make bores ranging from 105-155 mm.

The raw material for the barrel — a highly specialised steel alloy — is sourced from the neighbouring facility Kalyani Carpenter Special Steels.

In an adjoining shop stand prototypes of artillery guns, including the Bharat52, a 155-mm/52 caliber gun (8m long barrel) with a range of 42 km. It sits on a 12-m, wheeled platform that can be driven for distances up to 60 km and can attain speeds of up to 25 km per hour.


Both gun and platform have been designed and developed indigenously by KSSL, the company under which all of the Kalyani Group’s defence JVs – three as of now with Elbit, Rafael (both Israel-based companies) and Premier Explosives (Hyderabad) operate.
If they're doing all this on their own, what is the Elbit JV in aid of? Elbit makes truck mounted, SP and towed artillery systems, and it appears that Bharat Forge/ KSSL has built the towed and SP units independently, as the above report testifies, using the Voest Alpine line. They've even indigenised the materials bit as also the SP part. Why then do they propose to import the first 400 units of the 1100 order, and what is the real value Elbit adds to the product?

Lastly these are towed guns. Where does that leave the ATAGS project, if the lion's share of the Army requirements goes to either Elbit/KSSL or L&T/Nexter?
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Hobbes wrote:Some confusion here.

If they're doing all this on their own, what is the Elbit JV in aid of? Why then do they propose to import the first 400 units of the 1100 order, and what is the real value Elbit adds to the product?
'Phoren collaboration' improves the prospects of getting the order :)
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we have huge needs. intelligently split the order to keep everyone viable and build up pvt sector capability as well. one has to start somewhere to have pvt sector supplement the OFB which suffers from low production capacity all round...whether it be ammo, or guns, or shoes we never have enough from the OFB lines.

pvt sector can supply complete products in some sectors now and parts in others. in that HAL has already shown the way in not attempting to make every part.
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saw some news about "MSTA-S self propelled Howitzer" that they were in Final trails to supply 100 + 400 SPH's to Indian Army

any news..?
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It is in the final two list in trials for the Tracked guns program of the Indian Army. The other finalist is K9 from South Korea. I hope india does not buy the Russian Junk and goes for the K9.
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turkey has licensed the K9 design into its own version. supposed to be lot cheaper than pzh2000 and I really hate the 'hand cutter' system of feeding charges in the pzh...the K9 has a automated system to load both shells and charges.

see and shiver from around 1:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7XFwT4REHg
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Indian Army’s Artillery modernisation Plans on Track. 60 KM range light artillery is in making.[/url]
India army boost of 264 artillery regiments. but most of them are equipped with 70’s era 105mm Indian field Gun which are complemented by 130mm M-46 howitzer guns Supplied by the Soviet union in 60’s while these howitzer guns have been upgraded to 155 mm standard now. but this upgraded equipment simply cannot compete with modern Computer aided artillery howitzer guns in today’s modern warfare.

Indian Army’s long-term plan to replace these with 155 mm howitzers recently got a major boost after OFB developed 155mm Howitzers based on specification and manufacturing know how received under Transfer of Technology (TOT) decades ago from Bofors of Sweden, were cleared for production after extended field trials in Sikkim and Rajasthan .

Army will order 114 155mm,45-Calibre Howitzer ” Dhanush ” which will equip a number of medium artillery regiments, the Initial order will be later followed up with 300 Plus more Dhanush guns. idrw.org already has confirmed that later batches of OFB manufactured Dhanush Howitzer will get upgraded 52 caliber barrels from DRDO’s ATAG Program, which will provide better range over existing 45-Calibre barrel.

Advance Towed Artillery Guns System (ATAGS) program

DRDO is also developing a new lightweight 155mm,52 Calibre Howitzers under Advance Towed Artillery Guns System (ATAGS) program which will have an effective shooting range of 60 kilometers while weighing only 12 tonnes. DRDO currently invited Private players like Bharat-forge, L&T, Tata Power SED and Punj-Lloyd to participate in the ATAGS program.

DRDO plans to start working on the first prototype of New Gun from Next year on-wards once sourcing of components is done. DRDO already has frozen design aspect of the gun and plans to offer it for trails by 2018-19 .

M777 155mm/39 towed guns

Defence Acquisition council also recently cleared long delayed ultra light howitzer requirements of Indian Army, when BAE agreed to Produce their M777 155mm/39 towed guns in India after entering into a partnership with an Indian firm. India initially will place orders for 145 guns which later expanded with follow-up repeat orders over a period of time. BAE systems also offered to make India Global center for assembly, integration and testing (AIT) and Sources of Spares for current operators of the gun.

M777 155mm/39 towed guns weighing only 4.2 tonnes compared to conventional 14-16 tonnes of 155mm howitzers are essentially for Mountain warfare and can be ferried under-slung by (Chinook) heavy lift helicopters that the Indian Air Force (IAF) is buying. it will be equipped with proposed XVII Mountain strike Corps especially to be raised for China front for deployment in Mountain terrain.
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Singha wrote:turkey has licensed the K9 design into its own version. supposed to be lot cheaper than pzh2000 and I really hate the 'hand cutter' system of feeding charges in the pzh...the K9 has a automated system to load both shells and charges.

see and shiver from around 1:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7XFwT4REHg
Singha,

IIRC the rammer is controlled by the loader with a foot pedal. I think the sequence is

press pedal -> opens breech
load shell (manual or auto)
load charge
release pedal -> activates rammer -> closes breech
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shalav, tank ammo unlike artillery is single piece...no separate charge.
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Yagnasri wrote:Welspun - people say that they make biggest steel pipes in the world from their factory in Guj. I am told that they export 95% of their product to US and other oil majors. I am sure that there may be many which capability as of today or can reach the required level very fact if required.
I think these are welded pipes not seamless. Pipes and gun barrels are two different animals altogether.
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Singha wrote:shalav, tank ammo unlike artillery is single piece...no separate charge.
Not for the tincans, one of the reasons why their rounds are so wimpy and lack penetration, short and puny kinetic impactors.

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so their autoloaders load the shell and then the charge ? sounds slow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NIaoOabF_0

this CG shows the shell going in first and then another machinery pulls out the base of the charge , throws it away and rams in a fresh charge....pathetic. the magazine looks like two layers - top layer has charge, bottom has shell...and both get loaded as a pair.

leopard2 types feed in this huge long thing...no wonder western/israeli/indian guns with manual loading are superior https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqkyPPx5MtM
note the protective door for the wine rack of shells. it will divert any explosion upward.
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Singha wrote:so their autoloaders load the shell and then the charge ? sounds slow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NIaoOabF_0

this CG shows the shell going in first and then another machinery pulls out the base of the charge , throws it away and rams in a fresh charge....pathetic. the magazine looks like two layers - top layer has charge, bottom has shell...and both get loaded as a pair.

leopard2 types feed in this huge long thing...no wonder western/israeli/indian guns with manual loading are superior https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqkyPPx5MtM
note the protective door for the wine rack of shells. it will divert any explosion upward.
One the biggest challenges of the T-90 design is the auto-loader limited length of the ammunition.

Because of the primacy on keeping the tank compact, the ammunition was split into two components. However, this split in ammunition means that main round - the Sabot (Or main rod which hits the enemy tank) - can be of only a certain length. Considering that game in KE tank rounds is that of achieving high Length/Diameter Ratio (L/D ratio), Russian KE ammunition has a upper ceiling. Unless, they can continue to find denser and denser material.

Compared to this, western KE rounds have continued to increase in length.

Sample this range of western KE rounds with increasing length of main sabot:

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Comparison between Russian and western rounds. Pic 1 is that of Russian soldier loading the propellant part of two-part ammunition while second is that of a complete western KE round.

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good post Rohit . the ability to embed the KE dart deep into the charge also permits the charge itself to be longer and hence more muzzle velocity of the western 120mm guns..and firing a much longer dart....a double win over the separate russian design.

on top of that the americans have used their waste uranium for DU sabots...

I get the strong feeling T-series was designed only for operational deep battle , not for stand up fights...annihilate a area and clear a corridor with massive amts of artillery, rockets and missiles followed by Hind sweeps , smash any strongpoints with tactical nukes and chemical warfare, then release masses of these fast nimble tanks and BMPs deep into the enemy rear to punch aside soft skinned formations, maul the supply chain and generally create mayhem in the back. bypass all strongpoints and keep moving, avoid urban battles, call in tactical nuclear strikes or heavy bombers or wait until corps artillery catches up to clear strongpoints.

unfortunately :(( we have neither the artillery, nor the mech infantry, or VVD or the deep battle doctrine to make a success of the T-series in the way they were designed to do.
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The benefits of thee western system should also be available to Arjun.

Sometimes, I see a whole gamut of persons within and outside who fear India able to fight a war properly and who are afraid of Indian assertiveness even when we are provoked.
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^^ Singha, you are bang on right. Their mech forces were referred to as OMGs or Operation Maneouvre Groups. Arty was used for maneouvre by firepower like RV brought out in his blog on our aty divs.
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VinodTK wrote:{url=http://defence.pk/threads/indian-army%E ... ng.381725/}

Indian Army’s Artillery modernisation Plans on Track. 60 KM range light artillery is in making.[/url]
India army boost of 264 artillery regiments. but most of them are equipped with 70’s era 105mm Indian field Gun which are complemented by 130mm M-46 howitzer guns Supplied by the Soviet union in 60’s while these howitzer guns have been upgraded to 155 mm standard now. but this upgraded equipment simply cannot compete with modern Computer aided artillery howitzer guns in today’s modern warfare.

Indian Army’s long-term plan to replace these with 155 mm howitzers recently got a major boost after OFB developed 155mm Howitzers based on specification and manufacturing know how received under Transfer of Technology (TOT) decades ago from Bofors of Sweden, were cleared for production after extended field trials in Sikkim and Rajasthan .

Army will order 114 155mm,45-Calibre Howitzer ” Dhanush ” which will equip a number of medium artillery regiments, the Initial order will be later followed up with 300 Plus more Dhanush guns. idrw.org already has confirmed that later batches of OFB manufactured Dhanush Howitzer will get upgraded 52 caliber barrels from DRDO’s ATAG Program, which will provide better range over existing 45-Calibre barrel.
Improvement game started on Dhanush also.

Advance Towed Artillery Guns System (ATAGS) program

DRDO is also developing a new lightweight 155mm,52 Calibre Howitzers under Advance Towed Artillery Guns System (ATAGS) program which will have an effective shooting range of 60 kilometers while weighing only 12 tonnes. DRDO currently invited Private players like Bharat-forge, L&T, Tata Power SED and Punj-Lloyd to participate in the ATAGS program.

DRDO plans to start working on the first prototype of New Gun from Next year on-wards once sourcing of components is done. DRDO already has frozen design aspect of the gun and plans to offer it for trails by 2018-19 .

M777 155mm/39 towed guns

Defence Acquisition council also recently cleared long delayed ultra light howitzer requirements of Indian Army, when BAE agreed to Produce their M777 155mm/39 towed guns in India after entering into a partnership with an Indian firm. India initially will place orders for 145 guns which later expanded with follow-up repeat orders over a period of time. BAE systems also offered to make India Global center for assembly, integration and testing (AIT) and Sources of Spares for current operators of the gun.

M777 155mm/39 towed guns weighing only 4.2 tonnes compared to conventional 14-16 tonnes of 155mm howitzers are essentially for Mountain warfare and can be ferried under-slung by (Chinook) heavy lift helicopters that the Indian Air Force (IAF) is buying. it will be equipped with proposed XVII Mountain strike Corps especially to be raised for China front for deployment in Mountain terrain.
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Gd, The fundamental mathematical equation describing the penetration is by Isaac Newton. He shows all things being constant, the depth of penetration is proportional to L/D of the projectile. Short answer is a large L/D concentrates the given force on a small frontal area.
He also showed that depth of penetration is proportional to the relative densities of the projectile and sub-strate. IOW a denser projectile will punch through deeper.
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^^^ So, not only did west work on increasing the L/D ratio, they increased the density aspect as well by first working with tungsten and then, Depleted Uranium.

DU has the additional quality of being pyrophoric - so, when DU sabot hits the tank surface, it does not bend like tungsten. Instead, the outer layers burn off keeping the sabot tip sharp allowing it to penetrate further.

Further, when it enters the crew compartment, it burns and spreads spreads sparks+fire all around.

It is said that while tungsten is expensive, DU being side product of nuclear energy field, it comes literally free!
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Arun Menon wrote:
Singha wrote:shalav, tank ammo unlike artillery is single piece...no separate charge.
Not for the tincans, one of the reasons why their rounds are so wimpy and lack penetration, short and puny kinetic impactors.
The Challenger-2 uses a two-piece round.

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The problem isn't the two-piece round in and of itself. Rather, it is the design of the autoloader that restricts the size of the penetrator that can be used.
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Mahindra Group & BAE Systems join hands again
Two years after BAE Systems pulled out of a joint venture with Mahindra Group, both companies have reportedly joined hands again to make M 777 Ultra Light Howitzers (ULH) for the defence forces. Manufacturing components with an Indian partner for a 1,000-gun order would benefit BAE Systems.

Sources said BAE Systems CEO Ian King will visit India next week to formally announce the joint venture.
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http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... -the-army/
A few months after clearing critical trials, the Dhanush artillery guns — also called “Desi Bofors” — have entered the production phase to meet Army’s operational gap of field howitzers. The “Make in India” defence manufacturing project took off with the receipt of Bulk Production Clearance (BPC) from the Army for 144 Dhanush guns. Sources said the Ordnance Factories Board (OFB) has already started the production of indigenously manufactured 155 mm/45 calibre artillery gun.
Yay !
Gun Carriage Factory, Jabalpur plans to supply 6 guns within 6 months, another 12 within 12 months and another 36 guns within 24 months.
This was decided at the OFB’s General Managers’ strategic conference held last month. The decision raises questions about the Army’s plans to get all 144 guns from the OFB within three years.
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beoing delivers 777 faster than that.
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^Come on, thats comparing apples to oranges. Besides, they have got much bigger orders than a pathetic 144. (God, I hate standing up for the OFB).
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So besides the Dhanush program taken up, is the GCF making any meaningful contribution right now? What is their installed capacity to manufacture the army requirements and what is their total work force?
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srin wrote:http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... -the-army/
A few months after clearing critical trials, the Dhanush artillery guns — also called “Desi Bofors” — have entered the production phase to meet Army’s operational gap of field howitzers. The “Make in India” defence manufacturing project took off with the receipt of Bulk Production Clearance (BPC) from the Army for 144 Dhanush guns. Sources said the Ordnance Factories Board (OFB) has already started the production of indigenously manufactured 155 mm/45 calibre artillery gun.
Yay !
Gun Carriage Factory, Jabalpur plans to supply 6 guns within 6 months, another 12 within 12 months and another 36 guns within 24 months.
This was decided at the OFB’s General Managers’ strategic conference held last month. The decision raises questions about the Army’s plans to get all 144 guns from the OFB within three years.
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what is this thing with numbers like 144 etc. Why can't it be 150 or 200, round numbers?
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Post by vaibhav.n »

144 Dhanush will make (8) Medium Regiments.
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