Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22 2015

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Habal- lets hope over time good wins over evil.
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Avinash R wrote:Two suicide bombers explode while fighting in Sargodha
http://arynews.tv/en/two-suicide-bomber ... n-sargodha

June 6, 2015 14:39

SARGODHA: A terrorist attack aborted in Sargodha when the jackets of two would be suicide bombers blown up during a brawl between them, ARY News reported on Saturday.

According to reports, the suicide vests of two alleged bombers blew up when they were involved in a scuffle near Khayam Chowk in Sargodha.

Heavy contingents of police and ambulances reached to the place of incident after blasts. Policemen cordoned off the crime scene.

DCO Sargodha Saqib Manan talking to media said that it will be premature to say anything about the incident. Almighty has saved the city from a big loss, he said.

The police has taken the dead bodies of two suspected suicide bombers in its custody for investigtion, DPO Sargodha Sajjad Hussain Munj said. The police has gathered evidence from the crime scene to inquire into the incident, he further said.
suicide vested bombers brawling?? 8)

pakiland, It's a freak show, getting crazier by the day.
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The China power deals with Pakistan are at $1.5 billion or so per 1000 MW of installed power.
In contrast, in Bangladesh,
http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2015/06/ ... ase-crisis
"Reliance Power and BPDB today signed a MoU to develop four units of power plants to produce 3,000 MW of electricity with a cost of $3 billion," the company said in a statement. .....Adani Power will set up two coal-fired plants with a total capacity of 1,600 MW that will cost more than $1.5 billion.
The Indian companies are doing it at $1 billion per 1000 MW.

This is consistent with Tata Power in Vietnam:
http://www.vietnambreakingnews.com/2015 ... wer-plant/
Long Phu 3 plant is also expected to cost roughly $2 billion, with a capacity of 2,000 MW.
Pakistan:
The 1,320 megawatts coal-fired power plant, known as Port Qasism Power Project, near Karachi will be jointly carried out by Chinese Power Construction Corp with 51% and Qatar’s Al Mirqab Capital with 49% stakes in the project with a total cost of $2.1 billion. - See more at: http://www.rtcc.org/2015/06/02/china-bi ... BW6kT.dpuf
The above is about $1.6 billion per 1000 MW, and this is without overhead one might think is contributing to the costs in other projects (e.g., setting up coal mining in Thar, or setting up railway capacity to transport coal from Karachi to Punjab).

Same article, here's the Thar project:
The mining will cost $950 million while $1.1 billion will be required for power generation for the 660 megawatts coal-fired power project, he said. - See more at: http://www.rtcc.org/2015/06/02/china-bi ... BW6kT.dpuf
So $1.1B for 660MW works out to about $1.6B per 1000 MW.

It would seem to me that friendship with China is costing Pakistan 50% above the market rate for power plants. The friendship has to be indeed taller than mountains and deeper than seas for it to survive market forces.
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Habal-ji :
Thanks for your elaboration on civil-military relations in Pakistan .
(military does not harass state govts or the central govt in day -to-day or even month - to - month or year-to -year fiscal affairs)

But then they ( army) too are busy involved in their own little scams ( arm purchase kickbacks, land allotments/purchases at low prices, nepotism, Kannadian Visas - and so on and so forth).

Pak author, Ayesha Siddiqa has provided lots of details in her Military Inc.
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chetak wrote:
Avinash R wrote:Two suicide bombers explode while fighting in Sargodha
http://arynews.tv/en/two-suicide-bomber ... n-sargodha

June 6, 2015 14:39

SARGODHA: A terrorist attack aborted in Sargodha when the jackets of two would be suicide bombers blown up during a brawl between them, ARY News reported on Saturday.

According to reports, the suicide vests of two alleged bombers blew up when they were involved in a scuffle near Khayam Chowk in Sargodha.

Heavy contingents of police and ambulances reached to the place of incident after blasts. Policemen cordoned off the crime scene.

DCO Sargodha Saqib Manan talking to media said that it will be premature to say anything about the incident. Almighty has saved the city from a big loss, he said.

The police has taken the dead bodies of two suspected suicide bombers in its custody for investigtion, DPO Sargodha Sajjad Hussain Munj said. The police has gathered evidence from the crime scene to inquire into the incident, he further said.
suicide vested bombers brawling?? 8)

pakiland, It's a freak show, getting crazier by the day.
I would pay $1 to know what they were fighting about.

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chetak wrote:
Avinash R wrote:Two suicide bombers explode while fighting in Sargodha
http://arynews.tv/en/two-suicide-bomber ... n-sargodha

June 6, 2015 14:39

SARGODHA: A terrorist attack aborted in Sargodha when the jackets of two would be suicide bombers blown up during a brawl between them, ARY News reported on Saturday.

According to reports, the suicide vests of two alleged bombers blew up when they were involved in a scuffle near Khayam Chowk in Sargodha.

Heavy contingents of police and ambulances reached to the place of incident after blasts. Policemen cordoned off the crime scene.

DCO Sargodha Saqib Manan talking to media said that it will be premature to say anything about the incident. Almighty has saved the city from a big loss, he said.

The police has taken the dead bodies of two suspected suicide bombers in its custody for investigtion, DPO Sargodha Sajjad Hussain Munj said. The police has gathered evidence from the crime scene to inquire into the incident, he further said.
suicide vested bombers brawling?? 8)

pakiland, It's a freak show, getting crazier by the day.
Ticket conductor for jahanum train told them there are two hoors left for saogodha sector qota. One is phair hoor fram Iran and another from heera mandi. So two bomber were fighting about who will go firstand claim the fair hoor.Salam
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This is what happens when you send Islamist proxy warriors to fight your battles

Good article tracing the use of Jihad as a political tool in Pakistan/NWFP.
At the outset of World War II, far from the battlefields of Europe, British colonial officials in India bought themselves a jihad. They secretly spread cash all along the turbulent Afghan frontier, encouraging mullahs in the Islamic tribal region to whip up sentiment against Britain’s enemies: first the godless Soviets and their then-allies the Nazis, later the brutal Japanese and eventually Indian leaders such as Mahatma Gandhi and Jawaharlal Nehru, who were refusing to back the war effort. The strategy was low-cost and surprisingly effective. “In some areas,” marveled Sir George Cunningham, governor of the North-West Frontier Province, “religious Talibs [students] were encouraged to go into the Army — a thing which . . . was unknown before.”
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Pakistan prime minister chooses the army chief followed by army chief choosing the prime minister. It is called the circle of life. Like in the movie lion king
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chetak wrote:
Avinash R wrote:Two suicide bombers explode while fighting in Sargodha
http://arynews.tv/en/two-suicide-bomber ... n-sargodha

June 6, 2015 14:39

SARGODHA: A terrorist attack aborted in Sargodha when the jackets of two would be suicide bombers blown up during a brawl between them, ARY News reported on Saturday.

According to reports, the suicide vests of two alleged bombers blew up when they were involved in a scuffle near Khayam Chowk in Sargodha.

Heavy contingents of police and ambulances reached to the place of incident after blasts. Policemen cordoned off the crime scene.

DCO Sargodha Saqib Manan talking to media said that it will be premature to say anything about the incident. Almighty has saved the city from a big loss, he said.

The police has taken the dead bodies of two suspected suicide bombers in its custody for investigtion, DPO Sargodha Sajjad Hussain Munj said. The police has gathered evidence from the crime scene to inquire into the incident, he further said.
suicide vested bombers brawling?? 8)

pakiland, It's a freak show, getting crazier by the day.
Paki forensics are remarkable. How did they know that two suicide vests went off and not just one? In fact what were nearby transformers, bulbs and gas cylinders up to, standing by and doing nothing
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Canada to deport Pakistani accused of plotting to bomb US consulate
Jahanzeb Malik is the second Pakistani national in recent months to be ordered out of Canada on national security grounds.
Meanwhile, a member of banned Pakistani group Ahl-i-Sunnat Wal Jamaat (ASWJ) also faces deportation from Canada after being caught with a cache of firearms.
Comment: At this rate, it is very likely that last year's record will be broken. :) Just wondering if this has anything to do with Modi ji's recent visit to Canada . :lol:
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AoA,
What is the 35 punctures story / rumour in Al Bakistan?
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There was a rumor spread by imran Khan (who by the way has an impressive twitter troll army*) that Najam Sethi called up Nawaz and told him "35 punctures have been fixed" :- meaning 35 constituencies have been rigged. This was the basic immy complaint. That the elections have been fixed and that he deserves to the prime minister. Hence the container protest that fizzled out.

Nawaz smartly got into a deal with the bad Sharif (more on that later) where by bad Sharif promised to not lamp post Nawaz and in return Nawaz promises to stay out of bad Sharif's domain (army, foreign policy, Afghanistan, India, terrorism, baksheesh). Bad Sharif then persuaded Nawaz to form a commission to inquire into immy's allegation.

Here is where the interesting stories start. Like a toilet bowl, the same turds go round and round the Pakistan. For example the lawyer who is doing the alleging on imran's behalf and cross examining Najam sethi, is the same guy who faught on Sethi's behalf when sethi was arrested by: Nawaz :mrgreen: the same lawyer also encouraged ZAB's PPP government to arrest sethi. :rotfl:

The same set of people are with each other and against each other and its all a huge mess.

Anyway, immy, who has perfected kejri's shoot and scoot when asked to provide proof and argument, did the same shoot and scoot in court. Unfortunately that didn't work in court and they haven't shown a single instance of rigging with proper proof yet. That's the 35 puncture story.

*Coming to immy's troll army. They are dumb even by paki standards. Before the Peshawar attack, when immy was against attacking TTP and for talking to them, they would allege anyone who advocated military action as a RAW agent. After immy joined the "attack TTP" campaign, now if anyone who suggests that maybe purely military option won't work, they are being called as RAW agents by the same troll army. :rotfl:
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This one has been busy trolling the trolls!
A very interesting handle. Worth following.

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chetak wrote:
Avinash R wrote:Two suicide bombers explode while fighting in Sargodha
http://arynews.tv/en/two-suicide-bomber ... n-sargodha

June 6, 2015 14:39

SARGODHA: A terrorist attack aborted in Sargodha when the jackets of two would be suicide bombers blown up during a brawl between them, ARY News reported on Saturday.

According to reports, the suicide vests of two alleged bombers blew up when they were involved in a scuffle near Khayam Chowk in Sargodha.

Heavy contingents of police and ambulances reached to the place of incident after blasts. Policemen cordoned off the crime scene.

DCO Sargodha Saqib Manan talking to media said that it will be premature to say anything about the incident. Almighty has saved the city from a big loss, he said.

The police has taken the dead bodies of two suspected suicide bombers in its custody for investigtion, DPO Sargodha Sajjad Hussain Munj said. The police has gathered evidence from the crime scene to inquire into the incident, he further said.
suicide vested bombers brawling?? 8)

pakiland, It's a freak show, getting crazier by the day.

perhaps arguing about hoor allocation ,one they reach djannat ?
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OT here but ... Another successful transfer of Baki Taknik/knowledge to a biradar muluk by which any bomb blast is classified as a transformer blast. Take that you kufars.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 566358.cms
Turkey braces for tense polls after deadly attack
DIYARBAKIR: Turkey today prepared for its tightest elections in over a decade, with tensions riding high after a bomb attack killed two and wounded dozens at a rally of the main pro-Kurdish party.

Judicial sources said the explosion at a rally of the pro-Kurdish People's Democratic Party (HDP) in southeastern city of Diyarbakir was caused by a cylinder bomb packed with hundreds of ball bearings.
...........
The government has not yet confirmed that the Diyarbakir blast was the result of a bomb attack and initial reports had suggested it was due to a faulty electricity transformer.

But judicial sources in Diyarbakir told AFP that investigators had confirmed that the explosion was caused by a bomb.

"The experts collected hundreds of ball bearings and pieces of the metal cylinder," said a source, who asked not to be named.
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Gagan wrote:AoA,
What is the 35 punctures story / rumour in Al Bakistan?
blease to read

Theory of “35 Punctures” Punctured
http://www.thefridaytimes.com/tft/theor ... punctured/
The Theory of “Penti Pentures” (35 punctures) was supposed to explode with a bang. Instead it has evaporated into thin air without a whimper. There was no secret tape recording of mine informing Nawaz Sharif that I, as caretaker CM Punjab, had applied “Penti Pentures” (ie rigged 35 seats) to the elections in 2013. Indeed, not one word of “Penti Pentures” was even whispered by the great Hafeez Pirzada (with Imran Khan breathing down his neck) when I was cross-examined before the Judicial Commission last week. What was produced was a clip from my TV show of 7th July 2013 in which I had said that about fifteen days before the end of my tenure as caretaker chief minister Punjab on June 6th 2013, (ie, ten days after the election results were announced on May 11) I had become powerless and the Punjab bureaucracy was already looking to the designated new chief minister. So what was so strange about that, the CJP seemed to imply, when he asked Mr Pirzada to move on. Imran Khan’s unending harangue about Nawaz Sharif “rewarding” me for applying “penti pentures” by appointing me chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board also fell flat. Indeed, it never went to the point of explicating the substance of the so-called “reward”. How could it? I have not drawn a penny in salary for two years. I have not even taken a luxury vehicle for my personal use. In fact, I have abolished all undue “perks and privileges” that previous chairmen enjoyed, like free First Class International Travel with spouse, a posse of hangers-on, a fleet of expensive rented cars, millions of rupees of free tickets for family, friends and cronies during international cricket events abroad, unlimited entertainment allowances, BoG meetings in holiday resorts, and a score-full of jobs in PCB for sifarishis and family.
The “Penti Penture Theory” was based on idle talk cunningly fabricated by a maverick named Ejaz Hussain who was desperate to worm his way into the top echelons of Khan’s party. A gullible Imran bought into it readily because it suited his political ploy. How could he manufacture a conspiracy theory of Nawaz Sharif stealing the election without challenging the results of the elections in the Punjab that contributed to Mr Sharif”s thumping victory? Hence it was critical to damn my administration. Fourteen months ago, I sued him in court to prove his allegations or pay damages for defaming me. He hasn’t appeared in court once, nor filed a word in response to my complaint. Much the same may be said of his lackeys like Naeem ul Haque and Shirin Mazari who have parroted the same lie ad nauseum, and “journalists” like Dr Shahid Masood who are constantly creeping out of the woodwork. The amusing fact is that only days after the fiasco in the Supreme Court, Naeem blatantly named the source of the “penti penture” story as Agha Murtaza Poya, the veteran politician and ex-owner of The Muslim newspaper, only to be rebuffed by a stout public denial by Mr Poya hours later.
The fact is that I was the caretaker CM nominee of the PPP and its allies. The fact is that the PMLN had fielded two candidates of its own but only acceded in my favour half an hour before the three-day deadline because it realized its nominees would most certainly be adjudged unsuitable by the ECP. The fact is that Imran Khan publicly welcomed my nomination as a consensus caretaker CM in March. The fact is that I refused to accept the nominee of the ECP, Qamaruzaman Chaudhry, as my Chief Secretary because Imran Khan publicly asked me not to appoint him. The fact is that I shunted 15 senior bureaucrats from the Punjab to Islamabad because they were allegedly close to the Sharifs. The fact is that I shuffled the bureaucracy from Patwari to Chief Secretary and SHO to IGP so that none could complain I was biased. The fact is that I retained two senior secretaries whose close relatives were contesting on PTI tickets. The fact is that my Home Minister was on the PTI’s Task Force on Terrorism. The fact is that I even leaned on the Advocate General appointed by Shahbaz Sharif to resign his constitutional position in order to be neutral. The fact is that the only favour I ever did anyone was to Imran Khan when I allowed him to hold rallies in the centre of the small towns on his campaign trail in Southern Punjab, which was contrary to the SOPs of the elections. The PTI accepted the results as free and fair, a fact corroborated by FAFEN and over 100 international observers. Imran Khan didn’t have the courage to accuse ex-CJP Iftikhar Chaudhy, ex-Justice Khalil Ramday, and GEO/Jang Group in the JC, all co-accused with me in public. Now that his short-cut-to-power bid has failed and been exposed, he should have the courage to apologise to me and stop tarnishing my reputation. Signed Najam Sethi
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and the judicial commission examining Najam Sethi related to 35 penture
At a hearing of the Judicial Commission, The Great Khan’s lawyer began a stern inquisition of this paper’s editor and former caretaker CM Punjab. The latter turned to their lordships and revealed that the same eminent lawyer had been a “pillar of strength” for him when he was imprisoned by The Man of Steel in 1999. The lawyer, fearing The Khan’s ire, swiftly informed their lordships that ZAB’s 1970s government, of which he was a member, had also imprisoned TFT’s editor. In other words, he was no friend of TFT’s editor! But their lordships were unconvinced, as was evidenced by their broad smiles.
http://www.thefridaytimes.com/tft/such-gup-88/
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Canada to deport Pakistani accused of plotting to bomb US consulate
Jahanzeb Malik is the second Pakistani national in recent months to be ordered out of Canada on national security grounds.
Meanwhile, a member of banned Pakistani group Ahl-i-Sunnat Wal Jamaat (ASWJ) also faces deportation from Canada after being caught with a cache of firearms.


Back home he will boast that he got the Order of Canada.

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Seems the world is ganging up on Baki dual citizens

http://tribune.com.pk/story/899400/dual ... -new-bill/
Dual citizens, immigrants could lose Canadian citizenship under new law
CANADA:
Dual citizens and people who have immigrated to Canada can have their citizenship taken away, according to a new bill that went into effect last week in Canada.

The Canadian government has justified creating a two-tier citizenship system by saying it would counter the threat of “jihadi terrorism.”

The C-24 Bill could also easily be used against non-terrorists — for example a journalist who is convicted of a “terrorism offence” in another country for reporting on human rights violations by the government.

Under this law, the only Canadians who can never lose their citizenship are those born in the country and who do not have another nationality (and are not eligible to apply for another nationality).
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Some anal-e-sys by a compromised, politically partisan retired IFS babu who earns a living from NDTV as an exbert: comes up with the same old about engaging pakistan. Kind of explains why official pakistani policies in the past decades were such an utter failure since such stupid analysis when dealing with pakistan ensured that Pakis could read India's playbook better than the Indian babudom's reading of pakistan's playbook (which is nothing if not predictable as we all know).

The KC Singh types from officaldom in New Delhi (and there seem to be plenty of such clones) don't seem to get it through their immeasurably thick skulls that Pakistan's desire to destroy India -- it is a zero-sum game. There is NO win-win situation that is possible with Pakistan or with China, that does not involve severe loss for India.

http://thewire.in/2015/06/05/its-time-f ... -pakistan/
One view is to ignore Pakistan, harden Indian defences against terrorism, bypass Pakistan via Iran for Central Asian and Afghan connectivity, build a missile defence and nuclear triad as nuclear deterrent and let Pakistan wrestle with its demons till the outcome is clear. This is premised on the belief that Pakistan faces inevitable economic decline and unsustainable ethnic crises which may either force its army to sue for peace with India or simply keep it embroiled in debilitating internal wars.
False choices. The other alternatives are to (a) isolate pakistan from any policymaking as it serves no purpose -- it is futile to engage pakistan as there are no positive outcomes -- until Pakistan demonstrates actionwise that is willing to engage. (b) Stabilizing pakistan has never resulted in good outcomes for India, and any act of engaging pakistan will only serve to stabilize or at the very least aid it in playing its double game against India.

All that pakistan will do is again start pretending that it is doing India a giant favour by giving India MFN status, even as it does all of the following that KCS outlines below while pretending to engage India.
This simplistic approach ignores the revival of Pakistani economy, the impact that $46 billion of Chinese infrastructure building may have on Pakistani finances, the rebalancing by Afghan President Ashraf Ghani of his nation’s relations with India and Pakistan, and the Saudi unhappiness over Pakistan tilting towards the Iran-China axis and not militarily responding to its urging for Pakistani intervention in Yemen.
This "revival of the pakistani economy" has not happened yet -- KC Singh just make a grand proclamation without stating exactly what revival is happening, if we ignore all the Pakistani accounting involved in their official numbers? if KC singh bothered to even do some elementary reading of the rates at which pakistani are going to get power, it is not going to be affordable to anyone but the richest in pakistan. So cr@pping in his Nehru Suit at the thought of an strong and revived pakistan as this KS Singh is doing has no basis in reality.
The Taliban summer offensive in Afghanistan, despite the Pakistani commitment to bring the group to the negotiating table, may mark the beginning of a new kind of militant leadership in Afghanistan that could be utilising the Al Qaeda-ISIS rivalry.
None of these Al Qaeda or ISIS would have the werewithal to train or arm its militants or even operate in pakistan without the blessing of the paki army and paki government (which sides with the army on such matters) -- and PM Modi "engaging" pakistan will not stop either the paki army or the paki government from NOT sending Al Qaeda or ISIS, so engaging pakistan is at best irrelevant when it comes this so-called ISIS thread (these are all pakistani jihadi proxy threats and have nothing to do with ISIS in syria.
Combined with this is the renewed attempt by Pakistan to pump LeT operatives into the Kashmir valley to tap the emerging militant and pro-Pakistan public rhetoric after BJP’s dalliance with the Peoples Democratic Party. As in the 1990s, the external in Af-Pak is meeting the internal in J&K, with the additional danger of ISIS influence finding hold elsewhere in India where a section of Muslim youth is alienated.
Unlike the 1990s the border is better guarded and this government unlike nehruvian morons of the past has taken the fight to the enemy whenever they resorted to shelling to provide cover for infiltrators. As for local support to pakistani view, that is on both sides of the aisle. A NC conference politician just made a speech asking Indians to respect the pakistani flag, so it has nothing to do with the emergence of the BJP-PDP coalition -- this only demonstrates KC Singh's political bias.

There is nothing in the article that specifically states the exact outcomes that would be different from previous governments engaging pakistan without adequate actions by Pakistan -- Pakistan has refused to prosecute the culprits of 9/11 and has effectively nixed the trial and released the main culprit Zakhiur Rahman Lakhvi and does not even bother to portray it as anything less than a stick in India's eye. They relish their actions, and India is supposed to reward such behavior with "engagement"?
The appointment of a former Director, Intelligence Bureau as envoy for Af-Pak and West Asia indicates that the Modi government is looking at the entire Islamic world to India’s West through an intelligence-security prism and not a diplomatic-cultural construct.
This defeatist thinking of looking at Pakistan through the "diplomatic-cultural" construct for 60 years which is exactly why we are where we are today, with pakistan. Pakistan seems to be cocksure that Indian officialdom with regress to this "diplomatic-cultural" construct and give a back seat to a security-driven policies with avowed hostile entities like Pakistan, and give the pakis more breathing space to conduct more terrorism and violence against India.
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ASIA/PAKISTAN - Church destroyed and six Christians beaten in Punjab
According to preliminary reports, a few days ago Pastor Suhail Masih and his companions had been accused by the Muslims in the area of carrying out "proselytism and conversions of Muslims".
Comment: Wonder what will now happen to the unlucky Pastor now ?
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France "s Future Fighter Fantasy

PAF JF-17s to participate in Paris Air Show
he spokesperson also said one JF-17 fighter aircraft will perform in the flying display and another will be on static display throughout the Air Show.The JF-17 Thunder has already participated in various air shows around the world including Farnborough Air Show (UK), Zhuhai Air Show (China), Turkish Air Show (Turkey) and Dubai Air Show (UAE).The aircraft is also poised to become the mainstay of PAF, as the PAF plans to replace its ageing fleet of fighter aircraft with JF-17s.The JF-17 Thunder has been jointly co-developed by Pakistan and China — is a light weight, all weather multi-role fighter jet. It is equipped with a modern state-of-the-art avionics suite and an advanced cockpit layout.The fighter jet has the capability to carry out air-to-air and air-to-ground strikes, and can be fitted with beyond-visual-range (BVR) missiles.
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SSridhar wrote:Pakistan and Sweden Enjoy Cordial Relations - Information Minister Pervaiz - DT

AoA, now Sweden is in some danger.
SSridhar Ji :

Golden Opportunity for Pakistan : Invite the Swedish Cricket Team to play Cricket in Pakistan.

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Peregrine wrote: SSridhar Ji :

Golden Opportunity for Pakistan : Invite the Swedish Cricket Team to play Cricket in Pakistan.

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It is sometimes useful to see, in these two-country duets, what the non-Pakistan side is saying.
Well, in this particular Swedish newspaper, I didn't find anything about bonhomie with Pakistan.
I did find this:
http://www.thelocal.se/20150531/cricket ... -in-sweden
The world of cricket – with its bowlers and batsmen, wickets and creases – is growing in popularity in Sweden. Now the game has been recognised by the Swedish Sports Confederation. ....The federation does offer training courses to familiarize more Swedes with cricket’s somewhat arcane terminology, including the biffer, the cart-wheeling stump and, of course, the dibbly dobbly.
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#RIPZaidHamid is trending....Is he really gone? Or are people just having fun?
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Rumor is that Zaid Hamid is arrested in Saudi Arabia for purchasing drugs from a Shia for his Ahmedi son!
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Case Study of 'Communal Harmony' in Pakistan,s Largest City
Recently, someone by the name of Vishal gave me a phone call. He told me that he was a regular reader of my blogs on Dawn.com and suggested that I write about the Mari Mata Temple at Ratan Talao. According to him, Hindus were being discouraged from performing their religious rituals in this temple.

However, according to an agreement in 1978, the Maharashtra Punchayat had agreed to let the taziya be placed inside the temple, only to be removed when demanded. The parties in the agreement were Janu Bhai Feroze Shah and Mohan Gaikwar of the Maharashtra Punchayat.
Mehmooda does not mind Hindus visiting the temple :shock: and performing their rituals there. However, Hindus say they feel insecure when they go inside the temple.
Comment: Based on similar past instances a Fake Blasphemy Case should not be ruled out, in the future
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Ex DG ISI Pakistan Interview - Who Is Pakistan Friend And Who Is Foe Or Enemy

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Paki Paquduum
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ANIVerified account @ANI_news

Gilgit-Baltistan (PoK): People of Gilgit-Baltistan reject elections demanding an end to Pakistan colonial rule
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abhishek_sharma wrote:#RIPZaidHamid is trending....Is he really gone? Or are people just having fun?
There's unconfirmed news he was arrested in KSA. The rest is just people having fun.
https://twitter.com/Channel__24/status/ ... 5036506112
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@Tuvaluan ji,
Whenever we debunk such crap articles, we should may be storify our response and post on twitter as well?
Personally I prefer to also make an attempt to engage the writer himself. True to their character, usually they don't respond. If that happens, balls stays in his court and he can be taken to task the next time he spouts non-sense again .. that he always cowardly shoots and scoots without defending what he spouts.
Just my opinion that this way the debunking effort generates more value?
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Peeved Pak rakes up visa denial to official for its mission
NEW DELHI: The current trough in Indo-Pak ties is likely to continue with the two countries now locked in a face-off over denial of visa by the Indian authorities to a Pakistan foreign ministry official.

While the visa has been formally denied, Islamabad has refused to withdraw the application it had filed on behalf of the official saying the denial by India was‎ "unprecedented".

Pakistan wanted to post the official at its high commission here and had applied for a diplomatic assignment visa for him. The Pakistani authorities have now taken up the issue with India saying this was 'unacceptable'.


The official in question has not served in India before, a fact cited by Pakistani authorities to claim that India had no reason to deny him visa. The Pakistan high commission here has a sanctioned staff strength of 110 and, according to Islamabad, the official's appointment was meant to fill in a position approved by India.

Sources here admitted that visa had been denied to the official but did not give any reason for the denial. It is learnt though that the Indian authorities are peeved at denial of visa last month to two yoga instructors whom the government had hired to lead the International Day of Yoga celebrations in Islamabad on June 21. According to Pakistan though, the applications filed by India for the yoga instructors are still under consideration.

Pakistan has also alleged in its protest that parents and relatives of diplomats posted here are also being made to wait for months to get their visas. In some cases, the applications had to be withdrawn because of the delay.

Pakistan also raised the issue of what it described as maltreatment of its visiting citizens by the Indian authorities. It took up the issue of Pakistani women being "harassed'' by policemen in Jaipur despite them carrying valid visas and other travel documents.

The visa imbroglio is the latest in a series of events which have marred attempts to impart even a semblance of normalcy in ties. Ties went into a freefall after the release of Mumbai attacks mastermind Zaki- ur Rehman Lakhvi, rendering ineffective PM Narendra Modi's successful outreach in March in the form of a visit by foreign secretary S Jaishankar to Islamabad.

Foreign minister Sushma Swaraj said in her recent press conference that talks with Pakistan could take place only in an environment free of terror and that this "zone" could be created only if Pakistan took action against Lakhvi. The two countries were involved in another acrimonious exchange last week over elections in Gilgit-Baltistan which India described as an attempt by Islamabad to "camouflage its forcible and illegal occupation of the regions".
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^^ Must have been a "well known to Indian anti-terror folks" ISI afsar posted under diplomatic cover. Hence, the visa issue.
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Florida child sex sting nets former workers from Disney, SeaWorld and Universal Studios

……………………… One of the most disturbing cases was the arrest of Ahmad Saleem, a 22-year-old community activist and youth counselor. He is the founder of Saleem Academy, an organization dedicated to empowering young Muslims. He is also the former Orlando organizer for the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR). CAIR said Saleem worked for the organization only for a short time and had left before his arrest, according to the Orlando Sentinel.

Saleem allegedly showed up to the sting thinking he was about to have sex with a 12-year-old. He also showed up in a vehicle with a specialty license plate reading: “Invest in Children.”

[Ten-year-old girl killed in house fire, hours before trial of her accused rapist]

On Thursday morning, the Saleem Academy Web site hinted at its founder’s fraught legal future and inner demons.

“CLOSED,” reads a solitary message on the site. “MAY GOD BLESS YOU, GUIDE YOU, AND ILLUMINATE THE RIGHT PATH FOR YOU, AND KEEP YOU FIRM ON IT. KEEP ME IN YOUR PRAYERS.” ………………………………..

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Going by the high degree of involvement of adult Mohammadden males with origins in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in Paedophilic sexual grooming across the Atlantic in towns in Yorkshire such as Rotherham, it should come as no surprise that Ahmad Saleem has his roots in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

CAIR Official Ahmad Saleem Arrested in Pedophile Sting
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^Only 22 years and already recognized as a community activist, youth counsellor, founder of an academy and a former CAIR organizer ! Remarkable. And, apparently a serial paedophile too, truly in the Path.
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^ Truly in the path of cultivating a very pious look from a Mohammadden religious perspective as well:

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