Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22 2015

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Milestones: First Pakistani law university to offer PhD
KARACHI:
Shaheed Zulfikar Ali Bhutto University of Law (Szabul) welcomed its first batch of candidates for the Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) programme on Saturday.
The university is offering a combined five-year programme for Bachelor’s of Arts and Bachelor’s of Law and a combined three-year programme for Master’s of Law and PhD.
Comment: But then under Nizame- Mustafa, A.K.A. Sharia Law -which is currently in operation in Pakistan at the demand of the Mullahs- do they really need Ph D's in Law ! :)
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Pakistan Does An About- Turn on INGO Ban!
ISLAMABAD:
Days after authorities in the federal capital sealed the offices of international non-governmental organisation Save the Children, the interior ministry has allowed the INGO to resume operations in Pakistan. :eek:
Suspending its first order in which it sealed offices and operations of the INGO in Islamabad earlier this week, the Ministry of Interior let the international NGO to continue its work in the country.
Comment: As one Paki reader commented "shame on our government because of US ( A.K.A. Mai- Baap ) pressure, they allowed them to work". :rotfl:
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Anujan wrote:I dont understand how we are playing catch up to Pakistan in mil - tech?

The dhimmi dare not say otherwise.

Who knows where the "Insan know nahin to goli khaao" brigade will strike next..
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A lot of takleef in Shitistan on the successful cross border operations carried out by India in Burma. A lot of paki talk show hosts are reassuring the Paki awaam that Indians continue to be SDRE's, that the operation did not take place in Burma, that it was carried out in the border area but within Indian territory and it is not clear if it was successful :rotfl: :rotfl:
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My take on TSP takleef is that its stems from extreme jealousy of India showing that it has hard power and exercised it. Its the India != TSP that humiliates them. I don't think all the fury is about India doing the same with them.
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Pakis and there fifth column in India is actually afraid that IA takes similar action AND publicises it like the Myanmar action.
That will confirm Paki nuke noodeness, and move the self defined red line a little higher.
Hence all the rona dhona and immediate escalation to "we will, we will nuke You".
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ManishC wrote:Pakis and there fifth column in India is actually afraid that IA takes similar action AND publicises it like the Myanmar action.
That will confirm Paki nuke noodeness, and move the self defined red line a little higher.
Hence all the rona dhona and immediate escalation to "we will, we will nuke You".
Exactly. How will the army keep the hordes baying for their blood at bay? How will they justify their existence and the first right to all of puki resources?
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They also have to keep the hashish induced awaam in the impression that Indians are in-dothi shivering SDRE's and hence will not ever dare to do any TFTA actions against the Pakis (ultimate paki fear of getting their backsides whipped by the Yindoos).
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The joke is Pakistan need not trust India any more than West Germany or Japan trusted the Soviet Union (not that India is anything like the Soviet Union). The point is, live under an American or Chinese security umbrella, don't sponsor terrorism in your neighbor, any more than West Germany or Japan did, and don't spend a lot on defense, and instead try to become an industrial power - which a determined nation can do even if it is not blessed with abundant natural resources. But yes, this is simply no longer plausible for Pakistan any more (if it was ever plausible), a nation whose literacy actually shrank by 2% even per its own cooked up data in its Economic Survey - i.e., things are so bad that they cannot whitewash this reality, even while they make the absurd claim about per capita income which is equivalent to the claim that their economy grew by 11+% in dollar terms over the past year. Such jokers could have easily said that literacy remained constant, or grew by 0.1% or some such thing - but they dared not.

The reality is that in terms of improvement in Human Development, Bangladesh, which has not exactly been bosom buddies with India, has done better in the last 44 years than Pakistan, simply by taking care of more important matters than resisting "India's hegemony".
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I'm waiting for PA to publicise it's equal equal to what went down in Myanmar.
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Vipul wrote:A lot of takleef in Shitistan on the successful cross border operations carried out by India in Burma. A lot of paki talk show hosts are reassuring the Paki awaam that Indians continue to be SDRE's, that the operation did not take place in Burma, that it was carried out in the border area but within Indian territory and it is not clear if it was successful :rotfl: :rotfl:
Our Praveenswamy and Italian Express are giving them all the assurances that this is the case
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Celebrating a crumbling economy

The impact of the mounting debt and defence expenditure on the people is horrific
In a country where 78 percent of the population lives below the poverty line, 66 percent faces food insecurity, almost 100 million do not have access to safe water and 93.9 million do not have access to adequate sanitation, the 2015-2016 budget will only multiply miseries for generations to come. Yet the ruling classes and the upper strata of the bourgeoisie rejoiced, thumping desks in parliament when the budget of the rich, by the rich and for the rich was being presented. The upper stratum of the military and civilian elite flaunt their obscene wealth accumulated through crime and corruption by erecting palatial houses in posh areas and shopping sprees in Dubai, Europe and super rich malls in metropolitan centres. However, the serious bourgeois are worried about the impending catastrophe due to the disastrous economic situation and the rising anger of the oppressed against the bloodthirsty and callous elite.
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Peregrine wrote:Celebrating a crumbling economy

The impact of the mounting debt and defence expenditure on the people is horrific
In a country where 78 percent of the population lives below the poverty line, 66 percent faces food insecurity, almost 100 million do not have access to safe water and 93.9 million do not have access to adequate sanitation, the 2015-2016 budget will only multiply miseries for generations to come. Yet the ruling classes and the upper strata of the bourgeoisie rejoiced, thumping desks in parliament when the budget of the rich, by the rich and for the rich was being presented. The upper stratum of the military and civilian elite flaunt their obscene wealth accumulated through crime and corruption by erecting palatial houses in posh areas and shopping sprees in Dubai, Europe and super rich malls in metropolitan centres. However, the serious bourgeois are worried about the impending catastrophe due to the disastrous economic situation and the rising anger of the oppressed against the bloodthirsty and callous elite.
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Perhaps we should desist from quoting this gentleman - he is a hard-core Marxist since youth and his statistics are suspect. More credible sources are some of the ex-governors of the Paki state bank who write often about the sorry state of the glorious citadel of Islam's economy. See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lal_Khan
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X Posted from the “Pakistani Role In Global terrorism” thread.

IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan gets exported to Baiji in Iraq via Dewsbury in the UK.

UK’s youngest ever suicide bomber unsurprisingly turns out to be an adherent of Mohammaddenism with roots in where else but the Mohammadden Terrorist fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan:
17-year-old is 'UK's youngest ever suicide bomber'
PTI | Jun 15, 2015, 04.59 AM IST

…………….. Talha Asmal was one of four suicide bombers who attacked security forces near an oil refinery south of Baiji.

Isis social media reports said Asmal, going by the name of Abu Yusuf al-Britani, had taken part in the attack.

His family, believed to be of Pakistani origin, said they were "devastated" at the news.

If confirmed, Asmal, from Dewsbury, would be Britain's youngest known suicide bomber. ………………………..
PTI via TOI:

17-year-old is 'UK's youngest ever suicide bomber'
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Other countries besides India oppose CPEC: President

ISLAMABAD: President Mamnoon Hussain said on Monday there were other countries besides India which were opposed to the China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC).

Addressing the convocation of the National Defence University the president said many other countries had reservations against the CPEC which he termed baseless, emphasising the government was fully committed to its completion.

The president added that the nation must stand by with the government and armed forces to overcome challenges faced by the country.

“The unity of the nation is vital to achieving the goal of peace and prosperity.”

President Hussain was critical of India’s propaganda against the CPEC and urged people to stand by the government to rebut it in a proper way.

The government is fully committed to reviving the economy and ensuring internal security by eliminating terrorists, he said.
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And yet, if India does not give them a solid thappad after their next misadventure, they will after a short period of browning their shalwars, start claiming that their martial fauj detered the yindoos.

I love the "kaante se kaanta" idea, but they must lose something tangible, and visible when india responds/erupts next!
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Gagan wrote:And yet, if India does not give them a solid thappad after their next misadventure, they will after a short period of browning their shalwars, start claiming that their martial fauj detered the yindoos.

I love the "kaante se kaanta" idea, but they must lose something tangible, and visible when india responds/erupts next!
Gagan they will not have the guts to claim that the incident was sponsored by Pakistan which they will need to admit in order to gloat. They will say that Indian terrorists in India did it and that India has not managed to take out its own terrorists for all its bluster.
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Pakistan attracting foreign workers :rotfl:
Malaysia and Thailand are now “net importers” of labour, while India and Pakistan ( trying to play equal = equal ?) are also starting to attract millions of foreign workers, and this trend is expected to grow in the coming decade, findings of a series of studies commissioned by IFAD and the World Bank say.
Over the past decade, countries such as Afghanistan, India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka have all experienced substantial increases in the number of migrants leaving their country (outflow), whereas, other countries, led by Bangladesh and Nepal, have actually experienced substantial reductions, as many of their citizens have returned home.
Comment: Foreign workers "attracted" to replace outgoing migrants :rotfl:

Comment: One reader rightly comments that the farticle makes no mention of the nationalities "coming to Pakistan"
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Falijee wrote:Pakistan attracting foreign workers :rotfl:
Malaysia and Thailand are now “net importers” of labour, while India and Pakistan ( trying to play equal = equal ?) are also starting to attract millions of foreign workers, and this trend is expected to grow in the coming decade, findings of a series of studies commissioned by IFAD and the World Bank say.
Over the past decade, countries such as Afghanistan, India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka have all experienced substantial increases in the number of migrants leaving their country (outflow), whereas, other countries, led by Bangladesh and Nepal, have actually experienced substantial reductions, as many of their citizens have returned home.
Comment: Foreign workers "attracted" to replace outgoing migrants :rotfl:

Comment: One reader rightly comments that the farticle makes no mention of the nationalities "coming to Pakistan"
No need to specify he nationalities onlee.
Every schoolkid in pakistan knows the "foreign workers" come from.

Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq etc
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SLAMABAD: Continuing the war of words, Pakistan today said it will not hold talks with India on "Indian terms" and ruled out any dialogue if the agenda does not include "Kashmir and water issues".

Pakistan will not be part of any dialogue process that is based on "Indian terms" and no dialogue would be held with India until "Kashmir and water issues" were part of it, Pakistan Prime Minister's Advisor on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz said.

He also said that his country will take up the issue of "anti-Pakistan" statements made by Indian leaders with UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon.

Aziz made the remarks while talking to the media here after the inauguration of the 10th meeting of heads of the Higher Education Commission of SAARC nations.
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Curious that a self-declared nuclear power would whine to the utterly powerless Secretary General of the UN about a statement by a junior minister from a neighbouring state.
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Paki civilians are quite powerless, and have no option but to whine and grovel.

Their fauj is too shell shocked to say anything, are hiding behind the civilians.
Their fauj hides behind the civilians whenever it starts getting thappads from India or Amreeka - the last example was Kargil when mushy rushed to Badmash and literally cried in front of him to save the NLI soldiers. Also after 26/11, when they were afraid of an indian retaliation, they hid behind Zardari and Co, refusing to send Shuja Pasha - ISI chief to India.

So this time around, they are once again hiding behind Badmash. They have activated the Difaa-e-Pakistan council of terrorist-Paki humanitarian groups, and they are going to hold yet another rally in Pindi to "WAAAARRRN" India

One can expect some little fartlet attacks in the valley and some minor Paki flag hoisting events by unemployed youth.
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JE Menon wrote:Curious that a self-declared nuclear power would whine to the utterly powerless Secretary General of the UN about a statement by a junior minister from a neighbouring state.
Saar, no need to remind you, but their strategy is to raise the rhetoric to a feverish pitch, and bank on their 5th columnists in India, and 3.5 to pain scary scenarios. To the extent MSA's thinking reflects Cong's, please read his bile today comparing Parriker and Rathod to Hafeez pig. Can you imagine that. I am sure US will also come up with some equal equal, 'both sides" should refrain from provocative BS. Even by the most objective of standards, 2 utterly run of the mill statements by Parriker and Rathod, and the world goes into a tizzy drawing an equivalence between TSP's decades long use of terror, nuke blackmail, irredentism of the worst kind, with these 2 statements. Unbelievable, the forces, both internal and external arrayed against India.
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For this alone, the current GOI deserves a heartfelt thank you.
On another note, I hope these gents understand what they have received and their future generations don't turn out to be ingrates attempting to barter away Siachen for some mythical peace.
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June 12 US Dept of State briefing:
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2015/06/243728.htm
QUESTION: This – is this department looking at India’s operations inside Myanmar to flesh out terrorists? And there was a subsequent response from Rathore in Pakistan. You know that these nuclear-powered neighbors have fought three wars. And yesterday, the Indian army says on Thursday there was an exchange of fire in the Poonch sector of Kashmir. So are you concerned? What is your reaction to what’s going on?

MR RATHKE: Well, the relationship between India and Pakistan is critical to advancing peace and stability in South Asia, so we welcome any steps India and Pakistan can take to reduce tensions and move toward resuming dialogue. We encourage India and Pakistan to take those kinds of steps, and we believe that India and Pakistan each have a mutual interest in addressing the threat posed by violent extremism and terrorism.

QUESTION: So do you support what India did in Myanmar, going in and taking out the terrorists? We have done that, too.

MR RATHKE: Well, I don’t have a comment on that specific operation. I think the point that you raised, and to which I responded, is we encourage India and Pakistan to take steps to reduce tensions and to move towards resuming talks.

QUESTION: And has the U.S. reached out officially to India or Pakistan to defuse the tension that are really rising at this moment?

MR RATHKE: Well, we’ve encouraged a reduction of tensions on both sides at high levels, so that’s – it is something we’ve mentioned.
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Pakistan wins first JF-17 order at Paris Air Show: PAF
Air Commodore and Pakistan Air Force officer dealing in sales and marketing, Khalid Mahmood said “A contract has been signed with an Asian country.” However the name of the country was not disclosed :-? and deliveries are likely to begin in 2017.
Due to security concerns and client sensitivities, Mahmood chose not to specify the name of the customer and the number of aircraft it will obtain from Pakistan. :eek:


Comment: If a contract has been signed, then why the name of the country is not mentioned; could it be one of the 3.5 friend, currently engaged in a war with its neighbour? :roll:
Pakistan’s large and well-funded military has long been a major importer of defence equipment, particularly from China.
Comment: Does it mean, that now, by the Grace of God, ( Inshallah) Pakistan has now joined the ranks of a major arms exporter. Just wondering !
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Dum Dum Dumpaoq; Assif Need full One Killon Oil in his Mush to Quell The Angry Germs
Pakistan's arms not for decoration, Khawaja Asif tells India
OSAMABAD: Defence Minister Khawaja Asif on Monday said if forced into war by India, Pakistan will respond in a befitting manner, adding that “our arms are not meant for decoration.”“If need be, we will use them [arms] against India,” said Asif.Speaking at a book-launch ceremony in Islamabad, the defence minister severely criticised a recent series of hostile statements from Indian politicians.“By issuing provocative statements, Indian politicians want to distract Pakistan’s attention from the war on terror,” he said, adding that India had been “promoting terrorism in Pakistan.”
Talking on US foreign policy, the minister said America had miserably failed in Iraq and Afghanistan. “This is, in fact, a failure of their foreign policy,” he said referring to American interventions in the two countries.“Unfortunately, Pakistan jumped into America’s war against the Soviets and is now facing the consequences of that decision in the shape of widespread terrorism.”Asif was of the view that American foreign policy is closely linked to their national interests, adding that Pakistan ought to mirror the United States in this regard.Khawaja Asif also lauded the government’s decision to not get involved in the Saudi-led offensive in Yemen.“Our decision not to be a part of the war in Yemen was a wise one. But in case Saudi Arabia’s security is threatened in the future, Pakistan will move to protect the kingdom.”
Pakistan will not hold dialogue on India's terms: SarWazz Aziz
Adviser to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on National Security and Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz on Monday underscored that Pakistan will not hold dialogue with India on her terms, adding that there can be no dialogue without the water issue and Kashmir as topics for discussion.Speaking to media representatives in Islamabad after an inauguration of the 10th meeting of heads of the Higher Education Commission (HEC) of South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (Saarc) countries, Aziz said that even if cordial terms are not possible with India, Pakistan wants to maintain tension-free relations with her.
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Speculation - the JF-17 order is from Myanmar.
http://thediplomat.com/2015/06/confirme ... rst-buyer/
Out of all the export destinations named, Myanmar appears to be the most likely.
The plane is manufactured at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) west of Islamabad, which has the capacity to produce 25 aircraft per year, according to the head of Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, Air Marshal Javaid Ahmad. Pakistan produces 58 percent of the airframe and China 42 percent respectively, Flightglobal notes.
However, as I reported back in April of this year (see: “China Will Supply Pakistan With 110 New JF-17s”), Pakistan’s military aircraft industry cannot keep up with domestic demand for new planes. Consequently, it had to order 110 additional JF-17 aircraft from China, which calls into question the true export capacity of Islamabad’s aircraft industry.
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The problem is Pakistan using its alms against India.
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A_Gupta wrote:JF-17, Myanmar - March 2015 article:
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... istan.html
Myanmar require JF-17 to help Rohingya reach their destination upstair?
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Siraj deplores govt retreat on ‘Save the Children’
http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=266551
Tuesday, June 16, 2015 - Lahore—Ameer, Jamaat e Islami, Senator Sirajul Haq has said that the government especially the Interior Minister Ch. Nisar Ali Khan, had taken a clear stance regarding the NGOs but had staged a retreat under the US pressure.
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He said the NGOs hand in the separation of East Pakistan was quite evident. Similarly, he said, the NGOs had played great role in the separation of East Timor from Indonesia and also South Sudan.
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What happened to 20 JF 17 order from Argentina?
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I suppose they are waiting for Gwadar port to be built up, so that they can ship these planes to Argentina (on a chinese ship). Its a long distance away.
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LokeshC wrote:I suppose they are waiting for Gwadar port to be built up, so that they can ship these planes to Argentina (on a chinese ship). Its a long distance away.
In the old days long distance shipping took place on Chinese junks. You don't suppose that would be possible today? The Junk Fighter could make it on its own :lol:
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Excellent analysis by retd. Colonel Anil A Athale on the message to TSP implicit in the Myanmar raid by Indian armed forces

http://www.rediff.com/news/column/what- ... 150615.htm
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shiv wrote:
LokeshC wrote:I suppose they are waiting for Gwadar port to be built up, so that they can ship these planes to Argentina (on a chinese ship). Its a long distance away.
In the old days long distance shipping took place on Chinese junks. You don't suppose that would be possible today? The Junk Fighter could make it on its own :lol:
As long as there is another engine "shipped" for each plane I think these planes can make it by themselves. The engine that got them there can then be sold for scrap.

So as I said, long distance, slow boat .... from China.
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CRamS wrote:Excellent analysis by retd. Colonel Anil A Athale on the message to TSP implicit in the Myanmar raid by Indian armed forces

http://www.rediff.com/news/column/what- ... 150615.htm
'In the short to medium term, the Myanmar raid will impose caution on Pakistan in planning another 26/11-like adventure.'
That's an interesting way to put it. Create so much noise about Myanmar that Pakistan refrains from any 26/11 type adventure in short to medium term so that Modi govt doesn't get distracted by pigs and can focus on achieving its economic goals.
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