Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22 2015

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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rsangram wrote: Could India's Military Really Crush Pakistan?
India's conventional military superiority over Pakistan is exaggerated.
Walter C. Ladwig III
July 2, 2015

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/cou ... stan-13247

I am disgusted and speechless. And then we display such hubris...........it is unbelievable.....
Agreed. Totally

On the other hand, consider what the message is. This is a reply to Krepon and such
South Asia remains an unstable region of the world, but the Indian military is not a source of that instability.
The unspoken implications are that (1) it is Pakistan that is the source of the instability and (2) Pakistan's nuclear build-up is unwarranted and (3) Pakistan's nuclear build-up poses a threat to the West and so should meet with sanctions and such.

Ultimately Indian military leaders may have to accept, if they haven’t already, the very unpleasant reality that what is essentially a political problem—Pakistan’s continued desire to wrest Kashmir away from India and its army’s pathological hatred of “Hindustan”—may not be amenable to a strictly military solution.
No realist ever though that there was a strictly military solution to the problems that Pakistan poses. Split off of Baluchistan and such like are much more possible and probable solutions.

Regarding hubris - I think both the Indian political leadership and the military leadership have a fairly objective assessment of what India can accomplish militarily and what it cannot. I'm not sure the same can be said about Pakistan. Pakistani belligerence coupled with an overestimation of its strength and a belief that sufficient faith in Allah can even override the laws of physics in favor of the momin is what makes them dangerous. All the victories of all the Muslim armies against infidels are mythologized into victories of the deeply faithful against overwhelming odds, and these guys actually believe these to be history. That is why even if India had a 100:1 military advantage, elements in Pakistan's military would still provoke a fight.
The Indian government has demonstrated an increased willingness to use force in an environment where headline grabbing increases in the Indian defense budget and a high-profile military modernization program are already alarming observers who worry that this could undermine the conventional military balance maintaining South Asia’s “ugly stability.” While on their face these concerns have validity, upon deeper examination, it is clear that, modernizing or not, the Indian military is capable of bringing far less force to bear in a limited conflict with Pakistan than most people realize. As a result, it is unlikely that Indian policymakers would conclude that they can either achieve strategic surprise against Pakistan necessary for a successful ground incursion or carry out highly-effective air strikes with little escalatory risk, each of which is a necessary condition for military operations to be authorized. Consequently, claims that India’s growing military power justifies Pakistan’s pursuit of tactical nuclear weapons, lack a firm foundation. South Asia remains an unstable region of the world, but the Indian military is not a source of that instability.
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I remember the first gulf and the second gulf war.
Saddam hussein's hubris was to be seen to be believed! Against the massed armed forces of 30 odd nations, with the most tech advanced forces ever.
He got his backside whupped nice and sound on both occasions.

While India is not quite as advanced as the US military, but Pakistan is military very poor technologically, has poorly motivated forces, and on top of that are numerically outnumbered.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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Lt-Colonel among 17 dead as four rail wagons fall into canal in Gujranwala
According to ISPR, Lieutenant colonel Amir, his wife and two children were also killed in the accident. The other army officers killed in the accident included Colonel Rashid, Captain Adil and Lieutenant Kashif.
He said hand of miscreants[*] behind the incident can not be ruled out.
[*] [/b]This has been a 'favourite' code word of many Paki Govts in explaining unexplained situations :D
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Falijee wrote:
He said hand of miscreants[*] behind the incident can not be ruled out [/b]This has been a 'favourite' code word of many Paki Govts in explaining unexplained situations :D
Correctly understood its Islamistcreants.
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^^^ train accident link from BBC. It is strange the train has few passenger carriages and rest are all goods carriages. DO they mix the two together?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-33368391

They say it was a "special train" was it a holiday special for Eid or was it carrying some crown jewels and some opportunist jernails decided to hitch a ride on it with their families?
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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Pakistan shared no evidence, says US
WASHINGTON: So far Pakistan has not shared with the United States any evidence of India’s involvement in terrorist activities inside its territory, says the US State Department.

During a recent visit to Washington, Foreign Secretary Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhary had said that Pakistan had evidence of India’s involvement in such activities.

“I am not aware of any such delivery,” said US State Department spokesman John Kirby when asked at a news briefing if Pakistan had shared those proofs with the United States.
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: hain I thought this was so easily available at every nukkad pan shop the minister should have carried two instead of one just in case Americans loved what was being served
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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Pakistan destroys 160 kg of substandard meat imported from India
Around 160 kilogrammes of liver meat imported from India were destroyed by authorities in Pakistan's Peshawar city on Thursday, saying the product was substandard.

The district administration also sealed the warehouse from it was seized. A manhunt has been launched and several raids carried out to arrest the owner of the warehouse who managed to flee during the early morning raid.

Official sources said the seized liver meat was imported from India and later sold out to an eatery in the city.

Food department officials arrested dozens of people from the eatery serving the substandard meat.
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^^^(Brad's msg) Two headlines, both from Paki newspapers - Just a month apart..

Before the visit:

Washington trip: Islamabad to share RAW terror link proof with US

After the visit

Pakistan shared no evidence, says US
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So long as they paid for it ....
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Falijee wrote:Lt-Colonel among 17 dead as four rail wagons fall into canal in Gujranwala
He said hand of miscreants[*] behind the incident can not be ruled out.
I am surprised that ISPR came out with a lame excuse of miscreants. Are they sure that it was not due to the Pakistani engines being more powerful and TFTA than other engines that caused the bridge to fail? (Remember vacuum bulb explosions, sunroof levers etc.)?
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RCase wrote:
So long as they paid for it ....
Oh, this is Pakistan that we are talking about.

Most likely, there must've been a rumor that since the meat came from India, that somehow it was not halal certified.
Or that there might have been organs belonging to twin hoofed animals in there.

Thus the euphemism, 'substandard' meat.
Pakistani butchers routinely mix donkey, dog, buffalo, and meat lifted off decaying carcasses and sell it to unsuspecting people there. Would one realistically expect their food authorities worry about imported meat, hain ji?
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Falijee wrote:Lt-Colonel among 17 dead as four rail wagons fall into canal in Gujranwala
He said hand of miscreants[*] behind the incident can not be ruled out.
I think that the Pakistani engine got so emotional and filled with pride that it was transporting a matial karnail saab of the martial Bak fauj, that it decided to commit soosai - Pakistan's national sport and dance.
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Cross Posted on IWT Thread
Hydroelectric power plant: Financiers stop $433m loan for Neelum-Jhelum project
ISLAMABAD: Lenders from the Middle East have stopped a planned loan of $433 million to fund the strategically important 969-megawatt Neelum-Jhelum hydropower project following the surge in cost estimate to $4.21 billion.
Financing was expected to be received from a consortium of financiers but without any firm commitment. Now the prime minister has been told that the project will not be completed even in 2016 and work may be extended to 2017.
They had committed an amount of $692 million, of which $259.5 million had so far been disbursed.
“The release of the remaining $433 million has been stopped by the lenders as they are demanding performance guarantees from the contractors for the additional work (variation orders) and cost escalation,” an official told the meeting.
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Did the crown jewel in the derailed train change hands?
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rsangram wrote:Something I have been saying for a long time. I am afraid, based on what I know, the situation is even more grave than this article suggests. Shameful and disgusting. If I were in charge, which I am not, I would arrest and try hundreds of babus and politicians of the past and try them for treason, for degrading the Indian Army capabilities in this fashion. Note the one quote, attributed to Gen Deepak Kapoor, where he reportedly admitted after the 2008 Mumbai terrorist attacks, that Indian Army does not have the capability to fight a war with Pakistan.

Could India's Military Really Crush Pakistan?
India's conventional military superiority over Pakistan is exaggerated.
Walter C. Ladwig III
July 2, 2015

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/cou ... stan-13247

I am disgusted and speechless. And then we display such hubris...........it is unbelievable.....
No one is degrading IA, so take a chill pill Saar. Never trust a gora about India, good bad or ugly.

When (not If) India decides, Pakistan will turn Hindu in just 72 days.

Then trust a Paki before you trust a Secular.
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Pakistan's ISI trapped several Indians through attractive lottery scam: Sources
Pakistan's intelligence agency ISI trapped several Indians through an attractive lottery scam and the money was used for purchasing ammunition and explosives, sources said.
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Chief Justice's Son Too Enjoyed The Company of Still Jailed Paki Super Model!
ISLAMABAD (Web Desk) – Former Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry’s son Arsalan Iftikhar accompanied Super Model Ayyan Ali from London to Monte Carlo in 2010.

However, details about the company of Ayyan Ali with Arslana Iftikhar were kept hidden at that time. :shock:
I believe that this 'Doctor' was ' wined and dined ' also by Paki property tycoon, Riaz Malik, so that he can 'pursuade' his abba A.K.A. Chief Justice of Pakistan to pass favourable judgements
According to daily Dunya, the then Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry heard a case against Arslan Iftikhar for entering into a deal with a housing society vis-à-vis resolving their pending cases in the court of CJ Iftikhar.
According to the report presented by Salman Ahmad to the Supreme Court about family visits of Arsalan Iftikhar in 2010 and 2011, a man namely Khalil Ahmad and a woman traveled with Arslan from London to Monte Carlo.
Only in Pakistan !!!! :D
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Punjabi PPP Stalwarts Desert Zardari Due To His Anti -Army Statement

ISLAMABAD (Staff Report) – Pakistan People’s Party senior leaders and ex-primes ministers Raja Pervez Ashraf and Yousuf Raza Gilani on Thursday voluntarily resigned from their positions in the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP), Geo news reported.

Gilani and Ashraf, who have been serving as PPP’s vice chairman and general secretary respectively, decided to resign during the meeting of party’s Central Executive Council at the Bilawal House.

According to inside story of the CEC meeting, Raja Pervez Ashraf was critical of Asif Ali Zardari’s remarks which many saw as an attack on country’s military establishment.

“It was not appropriate for the former president to criticize armed forces of Pakistan,” sources quoted him as saying.
More and more, it appears to be a battle of Punjabis Vs rest of Pakistan :mrgreen:
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For the first time, India uses 'right to reply' to cut short Pak's Kashmir blame game
NEW DELHI: Amid reports of Prime Minister Narendra Modi meeting his Pakistani counterpart Nawaz Sharif at Ufa in Russia, the two countries were locked in a bitter tussle at the ongoing United Nation Human Rights Council meeting in Geneva where New Delhi, for the first time, used its 'right to reply' to send a strong message to its neighbour. The right to reply is a special rule allowing a delegate to interrupt a speaker.

Under the Modi government, there has been a constant endeavour to name and shame Pakistan at international forums and the opportunity was used by India's delegation in Geneva as well.
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Trivializing Pakistan's (and more widely the ummah's) response to the west as dysfunctional is to underestimate the threat they pose to non-believers. It is worse than overestimating their capacity to act in a concerted fashion. That is why the rise of ISIS is giving nightmares to policy makers of the west.
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vayu tuvan wrote:Trivializing Pakistan's (and more widely the ummah's) response to the west as dysfunctional is to underestimate the threat they pose to non-believers. It is worse than overestimating their capacity to act in a concerted fashion. That is why the rise of ISIS is giving nightmares to policy makers of the west.
This is how I see it.

The West did not and does not read Islam the way we do. We have seen ISISes and Talibans in the past right here in India and gone beyond. The West is totally wrong in trying to imagine that there is some moderate Islam that they can support which will follow the path that the west wants. Islam is Islam is true islam. Islam is democratic and a thousand Islamic voices are allowed to bloom. ISIS and Taliban as as much true Islam as any other opinion of Islam, Pakistan needs true Islam and what is happening in Pakistan, Iraq and Syria is democratic power struggle of various Islamic voices. Such democracy should be encouraged without taking sides and saying Sunni is better than Shia or some such thing.

The problem is making these guys behave the way the west wants. They won't. As long as we let them follow their democratic, if violent path and understand that this path should be kept at an arms length from us by killing anyone who tries to impose it on us, Islamic law and democracy are good for the wrold.
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^^ Why is this in TSP dhaaga saar?
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Because Christine fair belongs to TSP.
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sum wrote:^^ Why is this in TSP dhaaga saar?
becoz mohtarma fair, a few days ago complained about lack of buttering by indian babus.

Right now she is in Hyderabad for a scheduled talk http://www.manthanindia.com/events/upcoming/

Fellow biradars should attend her talk with a kilo of amul butter and after buttering her click some selfies
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Pakistan Steel Mills production comes down to zero level
http://nation.com.pk/E-Paper/Lahore/201 ... 8/detail-0
KARACHI - The production at Pakistan Steel Mills hit zero level owing to the low gas pressure from SSGC.

According to PSM sources, the existing pressure of less than 0.9 kg/cm2 and flow of 12,000 m3/hour is not sufficient to produce any product, while intermittently starting and stopping of huge Blast Furnaces is not only leading to their complete stoppage but have skulled all ladles except 2 of the total 19 available which handle hot metal.

The officials described it as a very serious situation pointing out that minimum pressure of 3 kg/cm2 and flow rate of 28,000m3/hour is essential for any production.

They said the Pakistan Steel Mills was endeavouring to reach the break even level but the low gas pressure has devastated the future of the industry and its employees.
wiki on Pakistan Steel Mills says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Steel_Mills
Pakistan Steel Mills, also known as Pak Steels, is a global competitive, multi-billion state-owned mega-corporation and the producer of the long rolled steel and heavy metal products and entities in the country.

Headquartered in Karachi, Sindh Province of Pakistan, the PSM is the current largest industrial mega-corporation having a production capacity of 1.1—5.0 million tonnes of steel and iron foundries.
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Neutralising the King
ere’s the transcript of the secret discussion that Punjab CM, Mian Shahbaz Sharif and Advisor to the PM, Sartaj Aziz, had with the Saudi king after the Pakistan Parliament voted against sending Pakistani troops to Saudi Arabia.The transcript was leaked by Julian Assange to M. Luqman and then passed on to Dr. Shahid who passed it on to us thinking it was his laundry list.King: Do not dodge my question, Masakeen! Is the Pakistan government neutral or not?
Shahbaz: Of course, brave king of ummah, soldier of our creed, provider of our oil and giver of political asylums to lowly faithful folk like me and Bhai Jaan.
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I feel for the auto guy. What an atrocious voice and accent she has! What an obnoxious woman she is!

Hyderabad auto guys do ignore the meter and charge bargained rates, but they are never exorbitant. It is hard for them to make a living if they stick to the meter.

And it is a time-honored tradition in Hyderabad that the auto guys have a god-given right to refuse a fare.
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The Zaid Hamid enigma - DAWN
A GREAT deal of confusion persists about the whereabouts and condition of self-described defence and security analyst Zaid Zaman Hamid, a familiar face on Pakistani TV channels and in cyberspace. On Wednesday, media outlets here began reporting that the outspoken commentator had been sentenced to eight years in prison as well as 1,000 lashes by authorities in Saudi Arabia.

That Hamid had been in the kingdom over the past few weeks is undisputed. For example his official Facebook page had featured pictures of Hamid posing in the Grand Mosque in Makkah. However, there has been no credible confirmation of the harsh sentence allegedly meted out to him, reportedly for criticising the Saudi regime’s policies in Yemen.

Sources in the kingdom say what can be confirmed is that Hamid was picked up from Madina around two weeks ago by Saudi authorities, who also took away his laptop. Other than that, those familiar with the workings of the Saudi justice system say it is doubtful he could be sentenced in such a short duration. Despite repeated calls to the embassy in Riyadh and consulate in Jeddah, Pakistani diplomats there also remain tight-lipped about developments surrounding Hamid’s case, while there were reports on Thursday that the Foreign Office would contact the Saudis in order to secure consular access.

Attempts to reach Hamid’s Rawalpindi-based consultancy, BrassTacks {wow, he is a secret admirer of Gen.Sunderji}, were also not fruitful as there was no response from either the landline or mobile numbers listed on his numerous websites. However, on Thursday there was a vaguely-worded update on his Facebook page pointing to his present predicament: “We always knew such times will come upon us when we will be tested to our limits and also those who claim to be with us. Successful are those only who remained steadfast, patient and waited for Amr-e-Rabbi.”

It is clear, however, that if Hamid did indeed indulge in any political or religious activities (outside what the Saudi government permits) in the kingdom while on his visit there, he would have been asking for trouble. Anyone with even the faintest idea about how Saudi Arabia works will tell you that the kingdom has a zero-tolerance policy where political and religious activities are concerned. And if a resident foreigner is found to be involved in these activities, this usually means a one-way trip home. Yet those familiar with Hamid’s style know he is no stranger to courting controversy and quite vocal about both politics and religion.

In the world of Pakistani media personalities, he is truly a strange combination, bringing together elements of Sufi-jihadi Islamism, revanchist ultra-nationalism and an unabashed pro-military stance. His fans swear by him, hanging on to his every word, while critics dismiss him as a brash conspiracy theorist {and a fool} . However, if social media is anything to go by, people are listening to what he has to say, no matter how controversial or politically incorrect his opinions. For example, he has 108,000 followers on his Twitter account, while Hamid’s official Facebook page has over 573,500 ‘likes’.

Most often seen sporting a red beret, Hamid is the son of an army officer and studied computer systems at Karachi’s NED University. He also claims to have fought in the Afghan Jihad; interestingly, his take on ‘jihad’ is quite close to that of Pakistan’s military establishment: while Hamid favours the Kashmir-centric jihadi outfits, he is vehemently anti-TTP, terming the banned terrorist group khawarij, a term from early Islamic history indicating those that have been ejected from the mainstream body of believers.

Hamid has appeared on various TV channels, including PTV, and it is due to his exposure on television that his profile has risen tremendously, especially amongst young Pakistanis. He is dismissive of democracy and politicians while often calls upon the military to ‘save’ Pakistan. In fact in 2013 a former employee of his alleged that he had run a campaign urging army officers to revolt.

The colourful, impolitic commentator has also been linked to Yousuf Ali, a controversial individual sentenced to death in 2000 for blasphemy for apparently claiming prophethood. Termed Yousuf Kazzab (liar) by the media, the man was killed in jail by a fellow prisoner after his conviction. However, Hamid has gone to great lengths to distance himself from Yousuf.

Hamid claims to be inspired by Allama Iqbal and has published an English translation of the great poet’s works, translated by former Balochistan governor Owais Ghani. In fact, apart from his broadcasting, activities and consultancy, Hamid appears to be a prolific writer and publisher, having authored/published tomes on his experiences of the Afghan Jihad, as well as on religious and historical topics and personalities such as ‘Ghazva-i-Hind’, Khalid bin Waleed, and Ottoman Sultan Mohammad Fateh. Yet the academic standard of his publications remains unclear {A very polite way of saying 'garbage'}.

While in this country Hamid promoted a hyper-militaristic, anti-India, revisionist religious vision for Pakistan and termed those critical of his view as “snakes” and “traitors”. However, on his Saudi sojourn he has perhaps discovered the limits of free speech. Only once the state is successful in convincing the Saudis to give it access to him will we know Hamid’s version of the events that have transpired over the past few weeks.

Published in Dawn, July 3rd, 2015
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I liked that Ms. C. Fair's video.
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Afghanistan summons Pak envoy over border clash - DAWN
Afghan­istan summoned on Thurs­day Pakistan’s ambassador over a border clash prompted by construction of a gate by Pakistan at the transit point.

Ambassador Abrar Huss­ain was summoned over a clash on Tuesday in which an Afghan guard was killed after Pakistani troops retaliated to Afghan firing at the under-construction gate in Angoor Adda {This is where in c. 2004, Nek Mohammed taught an unforgettable lesson to the Pakistani Army. Over 200 FC and Army personnel were killed. Lt. Gen. Safdar Hussain, Corps Commander, Peshawar, had to personally meet Taliban commander Nek Mohammed to sign the peace deal at Shakai in South Waziristan in April 2004 and even give him USD 540,000 {a fact he admitted in the press meet} after boasting that the Army operation would be over in a few days. In the public ceremony, Nek Mohammed openly declared that “Pakistan's authority has become a thing of the past; now the Taliban will rule”. :lol: } bordering Afghanistan. Two Pakistani troops were injured in the clash.

Afghanistan claims that the construction activity was in violation of the mutual understandings and its forces were authorised to take action for preventing such activity.

Afghan deputy foreign minister Hekmat Khalil Karzai told Ambassador Hussain that the violation by Pakistan was against international and diplomatic norms. He warned that continued work on the gate could seriously harm ties.

Pakistan Military Spokes­man Maj Gen Asim Bajwa insisted that construction was being undertaken on the Pakistani side and hence did not constitute a violation.
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shiv wrote:
vayu tuvan wrote:Trivializing Pakistan's (and more widely the ummah's) response to the west as dysfunctional is to underestimate the threat they pose to non-believers. It is worse than overestimating their capacity to act in a concerted fashion. That is why the rise of ISIS is giving nightmares to policy makers of the west.
This is how I see it.

The West did not and does not read Islam the way we do. We have seen ISISes and Talibans in the past right here in India and gone beyond. The West is totally wrong in trying to imagine that there is some moderate Islam that they can support which will follow the path that the west wants. Islam is Islam is true islam. Islam is democratic and a thousand Islamic voices are allowed to bloom. ISIS and Taliban as as much true Islam as any other opinion of Islam, Pakistan needs true Islam and what is happening in Pakistan, Iraq and Syria is democratic power struggle of various Islamic voices. Such democracy should be encouraged without taking sides and saying Sunni is better than Shia or some such thing.

The problem is making these guys behave the way the west wants. They won't. As long as we let them follow their democratic, if violent path and understand that this path should be kept at an arms length from us by killing anyone who tries to impose it on us, Islamic law and democracy are good for the wrold.
Doc ji 1) The West knows exactly what Islam and true Islam are
2) They know any country has this cannot compete and becomes their lackey
3) They believe through Geographic Isolation and visa countries they can protect themselves
4) Much of Asia and Africa will thrown under the Bus with Islam while they completely own the land in Australasia, Europe, North and South America.

This is exactly why INC mafia and Pakistan will always get thier support. If India goes they will start the Assault on SE Asia, China and Japan. That is why NON Muslims were wiped out in West Pakistan and JUI leaders who perpetrated the attacks in present BD where all given US visas and businesses.

Its like their Bull dog or Doberman, but dog should always know who its master is. Every Dog owner gets an odd small bite when dog is in bad mood, that was 9/11. They still think they can control the behavior to their wishes, more or less been successful. Unless the mad dog somehow gets Nukes to thier homelands- highly unlikely
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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Swift kick delivered to Pawki nuts by Afghanis, Sole ijjlamic nookilar powah's echandee severely violated!!


Pakistan lodges protest over Afghanistan's detention of consulate official

:(( :(( :((

All Nukes are just red tipped paper weights onlee :(( :((
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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When C Fair started "singing", oh good lawd, the man must have felt like killing himself. That has to be the worst accent voice combo ever.
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Chritine Fair has joined DFI (probably after seeing the hyderabad-thing featuring on DFI in top-results in google-search)

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/thre ... bad.68772/
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Islamic State trying to gain foothold in PoK: Army

SRINAGAR: In ominous signs for Pakistan and India, terror outfit Islamic State (IS) is trying to gain a foothold in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, a senior India Army official said on Friday.

"Whatever inputs we have, the IS has not taken in a major way, but they are definitely trying to gain foothold in the area (PoK)", general officer commanding (GoC), 16 Corps, Lt Gen K H Singh told reporters on sidelines of an Army function in Jhangar, Rajauri district, on Friday.

He was replying to a question on the threat perception of IS in PoK amid media reports about the terror outfit's presence in the valley.

Lt Gen Singh said that there were around 200 to 225 militants in 36 launch pads across the Pir Panchal range waiting to infiltrate into the Indian side.

The terror infrastructure across the border was intact and training camps were still active, he added.

Army today celebrated "Jhangar Day" to commemorate the sacrifice made by Brigadier Mohd Usman, who was martyred during the 1947-48 operation in Noushera sector of Rajouri district in Jammu and Kashmir.

Brigadier Mohd Usman had played a pivotal role as commander of 50 Parachute Brigade during the recapture of Jhangar and the battle of Noushera, which earned him the title of 'Noushera Ka Sher'. He was posthumously awarded the "Maha Vir Chakra".

The officer also laid wreath on the War Memorial and felicitated family members of martyred soldiers and interacted with the locals of Noushera tehsil who were recently treated in medical and artificial limb camp.

According to a Reuters report, fighters loyal to Islamic State have seized substantial territory in Afghanistan for the first time, wresting areas in the east from rival Taliban insurgents in a new threat to stability.

Witnesses who fled fighting in Nangarhar province said that hundreds of insurgents pledging allegiance to Islamic State pushed out the Taliban, scorching opium poppy fields that help to fund the Taliban's campaign to overthrow the Afghan government.

They also distributed directives purportedly from Islamic State's Middle East-based chief Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, although it was not clear whether he issued them for the Afghan theatre or if previous edicts may have been translated.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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KLNMurthy wrote:
I feel for the auto guy. What an atrocious voice and accent she has! What an obnoxious woman she is!

Hyderabad auto guys do ignore the meter and charge bargained rates, but they are never exorbitant. It is hard for them to make a living if they stick to the meter.

And it is a time-honored tradition in Hyderabad that the auto guys have a god-given right to refuse a fare.

She should have been thrown out on he pale ass right there. She would have a collected a few rupees singing that atrocious sounding song.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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What is she doing in India? What is she up to now? Her presence in India can't be benign.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22

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^^^ Among other things:
http://events.fullhyderabad.com/fightin ... 931-1.html
Venue
Vidyaranya High School (1.6 km)
5-9-20, Green Gates, Saifabad, Hyderabad • Telephone: 2323-7789

Date/Time
4-Jul-15
6:15pm
If she wants to keep her on-the-ground academic research career going, and Pakistan has blacklisted her, and she doesn't want to go Bangla, then India is what is there for her. Her grumbling about Paki chaaploosi vs Indian indifference may have to do with not getting easy access to research material in India.

If Tarek Fatah is right and Indians don't understand that Punjabi Pakistan is out to destroy India, then Christine Fair could render useful services there. She can hardly be labelled a Hindu nationalist bigot by the Left or Sekularists, and anyway, while American and white gives unfortunately an immediate cachet, at least this time it might work to India's advantage.
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