Internal Security Watch

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 27 Jul 2015 16:32

fanne wrote:Justice Joseph who was in hima chal before?

Not sure on that. But I guess he was the same judge who made a controversy by stating that he would not attend a high level judicial meeting which was scheduled to happen on Good Friday.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 27 Jul 2015 17:57

Guys, it is good that the pigLeTs were neutralized, and while every life lost is a huge price, I think these Pakis (or their proxies) came to create maximum carnage which was mercifully thwarted.

But on the downside, with the pigs dead, Pakis will just be laughing in denial, just watch them come on India TV today and claim "you are plagued by 10,000 insurgencies" etc etc. And on our side, the usual nonsense, "befitting response", or at the other extreme "saffron terror". How many times have we seen this?

One thing this does, and hopefully, ModiJi doesn't get another call from DC or London or his own mind or wherever to resume kirket with the pigs. Small revenge, but at least its something, talk of kirket with the pigs will be put on hold for the moment.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 27 Jul 2015 17:58

>>India TodayVerified account
‏@IndiaToday
Gurdaspur attacks: One terrorist has been caught alive

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 27 Jul 2015 18:06

goi should quietly work on covert yet visible punishments rather than thunder from the pulpit.

do not give up on anything. 90+ yr old SS nazis are still being sentenced and jailed for crimes that happened 75 years ago.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 27 Jul 2015 18:16

All three dead?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 Jul 2015 19:25

CRamS wrote: . . . ModiJi doesn't get another call from DC or London . . .

Since London became a third rate power since IK Gujral's days, it has stopped calling, I suppose. However, it is still part of the the 3½ Group.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 27 Jul 2015 20:33

Singha wrote:goi should quietly work on covert yet visible punishments rather than thunder from the pulpit.

do not give up on anything. 90+ yr old SS nazis are still being sentenced and jailed for crimes that happened 75 years ago.

It takes time to build up the capability. Targeted killings has to go along with sessionism in order to be sustainable.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 28 Jul 2015 13:43

SC refers Yakub's plea to larger Bench
This was in expected lines. How many judges constitute a larger bench? Would the CJI himself be part of this bench?

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 28 Jul 2015 17:47

CJI, not necessarily. he would constitute a bench with any thee judges. Since Justice Kurien is proactively pointing out only a procedural flaw and not a question of law or constitution three Judge Bench would suffice. They are probably meeting on Wednesday.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 28 Jul 2015 18:11

IB warns of possible LeT attack on August 15 in New Delhi (India today)

The terror attack is reportedly code named "Operation Lal Quila" and is said to be planned for the 69th Independence Day.

krishna_krishna · Post by **krishna_krishna** » 29 Jul 2015 06:16

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4fxvhzcrsw

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 29 Jul 2015 14:53

Oxomiya Jiyori ‏@SouleFacts · 33m33 minutes ago
Yakub Memon Case: Arguments over, order dictation has started in Supreme Court

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 29 Jul 2015 14:57

Live Law ‏@LiveLawIndia 4m4 minutes ago

BREAKING; Supreme Court rejects #YakubMemon's plea against death warrant

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 29 Jul 2015 15:12

GAURAV C SAWANT ‏@gauravcsawant · 1m1 minute ago
Vidyasagar Rao, Maharashtra Governor rejects #YakubMemon 's mercy petition. Breaking on @IndiaToday Earlier SC said no procedural lapse

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 29 Jul 2015 15:26

India TV ‏@indiatvnews · 47s47 seconds ago
#BREAKINGNEWS: #YakubMemon to be hanged on July 30 at 7 AM in Nagpur jail.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 29 Jul 2015 19:52

Yakub Memon Mercy Plea to be Rejected, Say Sources. Home Minister Meets President.
The media has now started using a different picture of the convict Yakub Memon. Don't know if it is to further raise communal passions.

nawabs · Post by **nawabs** » 29 Jul 2015 21:56

Islamic State Document Reveals Plans To Bring About Armageddon By Attacking India

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/07 ... 95170.html

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 29 Jul 2015 22:24

His lawyers approached SC late night claiming he is mentally ill per twitter

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 29 Jul 2015 22:27

Other than US and UK sources and newspapers, there is no one else reporting about ISIS focussing on India. Besides, it is a whole lot easier for ISIS to bring about armageddon by first taking over pakistan's nuclear weapons, if they exist...and ISIS seems to be focussed on places like US and UK, from where most of its followers originate, than India.

rgosain · Post by **rgosain** » 29 Jul 2015 22:29

Islamic State Document Reveals Plans To Bring About Armageddon By Attacking India

Is it me or do you guys get the impression that some people like Reidel and his good friend strobe are itching to see India struck by a major terrorist incident like 26/11? There seems to be self-fulfilling element to it all, that encourages, glorifies and rationalises terrorism against India. From India's perspective, it should be irrelevant whether it is ISI, ISIS, or even David Headley as they are all parts of the same continuum. Should such an event do come to pass, it would be time for POK3, regardless of any sanctions or threats.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 29 Jul 2015 22:36

India is relatively irrelevant to the global umma discourse, especially as compared to the 'great satan' and the 'chota satan'.
terrorist attacks are dime a dozen in India, no one cares, including most Indians. it would do nothing to forward ISIS' cause. ISIS should fire their 'head of strategic planning' with immediate effect. I am guessing he got his mba from the jehadi equivalent of IIPM.

what they should instead do in order to get some street cred is to rob some paki nukes and lob them at the great satan. now that would certainly announce their position as the true representatives of 'sheikh' usama's grand vision.

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this booklet thingy is likely a paki plant to create a cover for their future terror attacks against India. so that they can say, it was the ISIS, not the ISI !

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 30 Jul 2015 06:42

Yakub Memon executed at Central Prison Nagpur between 0630-0700hrs this morning. Http://www.ndtv.com

sum · Post by **sum** » 30 Jul 2015 06:57

^^ Can be rest assued that the usual suspects will line up saying this hanging was the "root-cause" when the next attack happens.

Btw, whatever happened to J&K which was supposed to burn if Afzal Guru was hanged? The same "eminent people" had made a big hungama even that time

member_28533 · Post by **member_28533** » 30 Jul 2015 07:35

Great day for India.. its sad to see how low sickulars are willing to manipulate the system - including forcing CJ to open special sessions at 2 AM in the morning, just to save a terrorist..

Not sure if ignoring these scum is the right strategy for India..

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 30 Jul 2015 10:11

mchilian wrote:Great day for India.. its sad to see how low sickulars are willing to manipulate the system - including forcing CJ to open special sessions at 2 AM in the morning, just to save a terrorist..

Not sure if ignoring these scum is the right strategy for India..

The sickulars tried to manipulate the system as much as they could and they failed..all due dilligence was followed including last minute special session. This will not stop them from claiming that due dilligence was not followed, but it has exposed them even further.

They are not being ignored..rather they are being made to feel increasingly irrelevant and "ignorable" (and ignoble) and thus, are forced to increasingly "reveal" themselves- their biases are being rapidly unravelled for the masses to see.

I personally know of quite a few "secular" oriented folks who are appalled at this brazen display of support for a convicted terrorist. Not that it will fully stop them from voting for "secular" parties in the future, but as per their admission, they HAVE BEEN forced into reconsidering at least some of their views.

I cannot say how far this will go or how useful would it be in the long term, but it's certainly a not-so-unwelcome change from the past, when any attempt to debate or reason on these lines was countered with "hindutvawaadi communal scum".

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 30 Jul 2015 10:33

Kashi wrote:The sickulars tried to manipulate the system as much as they could and they failed..all due dilligence was followed including last minute special session. This will not stop them from claiming that due dilligence was not followed, but it has exposed them even further.

One thing which we should appreciate (and also highlight) is that both the state government and central government has followed the laid down procedures to the dot. No unneccessary comments, and not jumping the gun at all. Every thing was open and transparent. Now compare this with the hanging of Afzal Guru and Ajmal Kasab, done in secrecy. That I feel was a pathetic attempt by the Congress government to "look serious against terror", and a poor attempt to get more votes. Yakub Memon's case also exposes the like of The Hindu, the son & grand-son combo of Gandhi as well as the self-certified "eminent" citizens who wanted to pardon the terrorist.

Looks like the family has accepted to do the burial without any great drama, and the body of the dead man is now on its way to Mumbai.
Live: Yakub Memon's body to reach Mumbai by noon

Akshay Kapoor · Post by **Akshay Kapoor** » 30 Jul 2015 13:13

Rahul M wrote:India is relatively irrelevant to the global umma discourse, especially as compared to the 'great satan' and the 'chota satan'.
terrorist attacks are dime a dozen in India, no one cares, including most Indians. it would do nothing to forward ISIS' cause. ISIS should fire their 'head of strategic planning' with immediate effect. I am guessing he got his mba from the jehadi equivalent of IIPM.

what they should instead do in order to get some street cred is to rob some paki nukes and lob them at the great satan. now that would certainly announce their position as the true representatives of 'sheikh' usama's grand vision.

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this booklet thingy is likely a paki plant to create a cover for their future terror attacks against India. so that they can say, it was the ISIS, not the ISI !

Agree, and they wont even have to rob the nukes. Am sure our Paki friends would happily oblige in name of the Umma.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 30 Jul 2015 13:19

>>this booklet thingy is likely a paki plant to create a cover for their future terror attacks against India. so that they can say, it was the ISIS, not the ISI !

Indeed. Any "ISIS" attack on India will be by, wait for it, the Inter-Services Intelligence Shitheads.

If you want to be politically correct, call them the Inter-Services Intelligence Shiteheads

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 30 Jul 2015 17:43

Sachin wrote:
Kashi wrote:The sickulars tried to manipulate the system as much as they could and they failed..all due dilligence was followed including last minute special session. This will not stop them from claiming that due dilligence was not followed, but it has exposed them even further.
One thing which we should appreciate (and also highlight) is that both the state government and central government has followed the laid down procedures to the dot. No unneccessary comments, and not jumping the gun at all. Every thing was open and transparent. Now compare this with the hanging of Afzal Guru and Ajmal Kasab, done in secrecy. That I feel was a pathetic attempt by the Congress government to "look serious against terror", and a poor attempt to get more votes. Yakub Memon's case also exposes the like of The Hindu, the son & grand-son combo of Gandhi as well as the self-certified "eminent" citizens who wanted to pardon the terrorist.

Looks like the family has accepted to do the burial without any great drama, and the body of the dead man is now on its way to Mumbai.
Live: Yakub Memon's body to reach Mumbai by noon

Absolutely. Kudos to the Govt to allow all available remedies to that PIGLET terrorist who claimed to have surrendered before indian agencies and not arrested. This following the procedure to the dot has forced hands of all paki lovers including PB, IJ, RR ( three legal eagles who approached SC and forced it to conduct hearings). This stands in stark contrast to what congis did with kasab and Afzal guru.

His hanging on the day of his birthday has sent a message to D company.

State Burial of Dr kalam and Execution of Yakub has sent a message to all Indians what path to follow.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 30 Jul 2015 17:47

Incidentally, SC has stated that the period of 14 days was given when he exercised his right to mercy petition and was refused. Repeated attempts to use mercy plea will not result in grant of 14 days each time it gets rejected. That was in the Midnight hearing held by SC to listen to PB, IJ and RR requesting to 14 days time.
Medical condition was also used.

All tricks failed.

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 30 Jul 2015 19:40

At what point does the overt support for a terrorist become an issue of national security? There have been pictures posted by India Today (discounting the FB pictures) which certainly look worrisome.
Yakub burial

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 30 Jul 2015 20:03

I was about to post the same Anindya. The media has been actively working on to create an image of a martyr of this traitor & terrorist. Mumbai Police had clearly said that there cannot be processions, photography or video shooting of the dead body. The Hindu has been covering this whole execution-moving the body to Mumbai-moving to burial ground with extra focus, so much so that even late Kalam's burial was side lined.

That said, the fact that this dead man was able to pull-in so much of the "faithfool" to keep their jobs aside and follow him to the burial ground has to be watched with extreme caution. There has not been any violence, but this chap sure have got sympathisers. The Hindu may even report that the "people of Mumbai" defied the instructions from the Police and thronged to see this new "martyr".

On the flip side, sharing these images would once again polarise the people - the impression formed would be that Memon's community still does find Yakub Memon as a martyr (and not as a terrorist).

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 30 Jul 2015 20:23

We should also note that the media is not just a mirror of society. The media actually manufactures opinion & gives people a lens with which to view events. So, if the media keeps telling Muslims that Yakub is a martyr & the Modi Sarkar connived in getting him executed, the average Muslim will believe it. He will internalize it.

If the media selectively highlights only Muslim grievances and distorts even a fair-treatment to a terrorist to make it look like State-sponsored-discrimination, they end up creating faultlines & set the stage for conflict. Maybe the enjoy their power to do so

member_29058 · Post by **member_29058** » 30 Jul 2015 23:30

Sachin wrote:I was about to post the same Anindya. The media has been actively working on to create an image of a martyr of this traitor & terrorist. Mumbai Police had clearly said that there cannot be processions, photography or video shooting of the dead body. The Hindu has been covering this whole execution-moving the body to Mumbai-moving to burial ground with extra focus, so much so that even late Kalam's burial was side lined.

That said, the fact that this dead man was able to pull-in so much of the "faithfool" to keep their jobs aside and follow him to the burial ground has to be watched with extreme caution. There has not been any violence, but this chap sure have got sympathisers. The Hindu may even report that the "people of Mumbai" defied the instructions from the Police and thronged to see this new "martyr".

So how do we fight this evil?

This evil has only one motive?

Profit,Profit,Profit

Profit not thru appropriate business
media is for campaigning against BJP,Modi,Hindus and for Islamic exteremists
Money collection from foreign sources or corrupt business

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 31 Jul 2015 10:49

Meanwhile, one has to wonder where the Memons get money from to hire such lawyers when nobody in the family seems to be earning only.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 31 Jul 2015 10:54

New Gov of J&K?

http://news.statetimes.in/gill-likely-t ... september/

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 31 Jul 2015 12:58

Hari Seldon wrote:Meanwhile, one has to wonder where the Memons get money from to hire such lawyers when nobody in the family seems to be earning only.

I must say this is one "role model"

of a family:-
1. 6 sons - 1 acquitted, 1 executed, 2 absconding and 2 in Aurangabad Jail. And the wife of the acquitted is in Pune Jail. Prison seems to be the best venue for family events.
2. 2 sons seems to have attempted to make a honest day's living, the source of income for the remaining 4 is unknown.
3. Any idea how many kids are there in this family? Seriously I feel without adequate care and guidance they may also just go hay wire.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 31 Jul 2015 16:10

ANI ‏@ANI_news 9m9 minutes ago

Three Maoists including two women gunned down in an encounter by Odisha SOG(Special Operation Group) in Malkangiri

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 31 Jul 2015 18:04

Times of India Warns Modi of Consequences of Yakub Hanging

Yakub hanging: There will be consequences, warns Dawood aide Chhota Shakeel
Raj Shekhar,TNN | Jul 31, 2015, 02.43AM IST
1993 Mumbai blasts' convict Yakub Memon hanged in Nagpur jail
NEW DELHI: Chhota Shakeel, one of the accused in the Mumbai serial blasts case and the chief henchman of Dawood Ibrahim has angrily reacted to the hanging of Yakub Memon, calling it "a legal murder" and accusing the Indian government of betraying the promises it made to lure him back to India.
A furious Shakeel called up TOI to say that India's "betrayal" had snuffed out the possibility of Dawood and other fugitives ever contemplating to return India in exchange of promises of leniency. "Dawood bhai would have been meted the same fate if he would have come at that time... it is clear now," he said, of the chief of D-Company, who along with Yakub's elder brother, silver smuggler Tiger Memon, choreographed the carnage in Mumbai in March 1993.

"What message has the Indian government sent across? You have punished an innocent man for his brother's act. The company condemns it. It's a legal murder," Shakeel said in the exclusive conversation in which he chillingly spoke of "consequences" for the hanging. "Woh (consequences) to hoga hi,' he said.

Shakeel said Tiger was the real culprit, and insisted that Yakub was innocent and was hanged for the acts of his brother.

He said nobody (from the Company or anyone else) will buy the government's "chocolate" in future. "Nobody will believe your agencies if they make a promise next time. Nobody will trust the Indian government in future," said Dawood's lieutenant who appeared to have closely tracked Yakub's trial especially in the closing stages and came off as someone who was well-conversant with the ways of the Supreme Court.

When asked if he thinks Tiger was involved, Shakeel said, "His role is mentioned in the chargesheet. But the government prosecuted someone who had taken audios and videos as evidence with him. He did not agree with the accused and decided to be lawful. What did he get?"

Significantly, he specifically denied that Yakub had links with Dawood.

Stating that Yakub's return to India was part of an understanding with agencies, he said: " His( Yakub) family's visa was put up in Dubai. He called his family there and then surrendered. What for?" Shakeel fumed. "What has changed with this execution? Have you received anything new? He has suffered... Somebody has done something but you punish his brother. His brother is mental, you punished him too... mother too... Bring him and hang the one who has done it."

"Somebody trusted a government but the government breached the trust. The company doesn't have any faith in the government Who will come back to get killed?"

His wife came to India with a few months old child and stayed in jail for months.. What justice is this.. He cooperated but what did you do to him..."

On Dawood's links with Yakub, Shakeel, whose named spelt fear in Mumbai not long ago, said, "He (Yakub) was accused of association with Dawood bhai. That's not true."

The focus of his attack was on Indian agencies with Shakeel saying that they they do not trust their own officers. "First of all. You don't trust your officers! B Raman and many others... nobody trusted his writing," Shakeel said, referring to the article of the reputed former R&AW officer where he had argued for Yakub being spared the gallows for bringing evidence of Pakistan's authorship of the serial blasts. The suggestion of a "deal" in the article provided fodder for the defence team of Yakub as they argued for the commutation of death sentence in the last lap of the judicial process.

"Dilli ka ek officer... CBI ka... usne bola ki iska role nahi hai... par tum logo ne uska believe nahi kiya..."

He hit out at Ujjawal NIkam for the prosecutor's purported statement that the hanging of Yakub was a message to terrorists. " Ujjawal Nikam ne bola ki ek message de rahe hain un logon ko...Yaar haemin message den eke liye begunaaho ko faasi pe latka rahe ho."

Shakeel also questioned the practice in the Supreme Court where a judgement is reviewed by the same bench which delivered it in the first place. "Jis Jagah Supreme Court me jaati hai petition, usi judge ko raat ke dedh baje baithaate ho.. Kabhi hoga justice?

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 31 Jul 2015 18:10

Chota Shakeel called up Times of India and gave a interview giving details of what he thinks will happen?
This is A-class Bull$hit. This is just the frustrated secular editor venting out his anger.